Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calbear93 said:

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chazzed said:

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A MT judge on Monday sided with young environmental activists who said state agencies were violating their constitutional right to a clean and healthful environment by permitting fossil fuel development without considering its effect on the climate.@AP.https://t.co/nWs7c77EDi

— The Intellectualist (@highbrow_nobrow) August 14, 2023

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This won't survive any challenge. And so she sends it back the legislative body that will not pass anything accordingly.

I think climate change is real, but it is like wearing those knitted facial masks during covid. Pointess and purely performative. Montana alone will not impact anything about climate change. It has to be a global alignment without exempting / approving different standards for the worst polluters in China and India. We have to do something but this ruling is like thinking posting on BI where not one opinion has changed in the history of BI is making an impact on political sanity.

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Shrugging our shoulders and doing nothing while we point fingers at that country and that country for being so much worse doesn't seem like a constructive solution.

If I'm headed for a tree at 60 mph, I'd still hit the brakes so I could hit it at 30 mph instead.

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calbear93 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calbear93 said:

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chazzed said:

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A MT judge on Monday sided with young environmental activists who said state agencies were violating their constitutional right to a clean and healthful environment by permitting fossil fuel development without considering its effect on the climate.@AP.https://t.co/nWs7c77EDi

— The Intellectualist (@highbrow_nobrow) August 14, 2023

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This won't survive any challenge. And so she sends it back the legislative body that will not pass anything accordingly.

I think climate change is real, but it is like wearing those knitted facial masks during covid. Pointess and purely performative. Montana alone will not impact anything about climate change. It has to be a global alignment without exempting / approving different standards for the worst polluters in China and India. We have to do something but this ruling is like thinking posting on BI where not one opinion has changed in the history of BI is making an impact on political sanity.

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Shrugging our shoulders and doing nothing while we point fingers at that country and that country for being so much worse doesn't seem like a constructive solution.

If I'm headed for a tree at 60 mph, I'd still hit the brakes so I could hit it at 30 mph instead.

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I don't think that is the right analogy. The right analogy is chopping off your arms and legs so that you can slow down from 60 to 59.9 while, instead of a tree, it's another driver going at you at a faster speed.

Insist that everyone make the same commitment. Don't settle for China and India to get a free pass and become more of a threat to our economic existence. Have some spine and don't fold because we want China and India to sign on as fast as possible and we want some performative display as if, without China and India committing likewise, we are going to make the necessary difference without making ourselves subservient to China and India in 10 years. They are already kicking our ass.

We shut down energy purchase from Russia, and what do China and India do? They purchase at a discount and sell it back to us. We are not dealing with morons. They are playing this smarter because they are not performative actors who need to win brownie points back home.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calbear93 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calbear93 said:

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chazzed said:

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A MT judge on Monday sided with young environmental activists who said state agencies were violating their constitutional right to a clean and healthful environment by permitting fossil fuel development without considering its effect on the climate.@AP.https://t.co/nWs7c77EDi

— The Intellectualist (@highbrow_nobrow) August 14, 2023

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This won't survive any challenge. And so she sends it back the legislative body that will not pass anything accordingly.

I think climate change is real, but it is like wearing those knitted facial masks during covid. Pointess and purely performative. Montana alone will not impact anything about climate change. It has to be a global alignment without exempting / approving different standards for the worst polluters in China and India. We have to do something but this ruling is like thinking posting on BI where not one opinion has changed in the history of BI is making an impact on political sanity.

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Shrugging our shoulders and doing nothing while we point fingers at that country and that country for being so much worse doesn't seem like a constructive solution.

If I'm headed for a tree at 60 mph, I'd still hit the brakes so I could hit it at 30 mph instead.

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I don't think that is the right analogy. The right analogy is chopping off your arms and legs so that you can slow down from 60 to 59.9 while, instead of a tree, it's another driver going at you at a faster speed.

Insist that everyone make the same commitment. Don't settle for China and India to get a free pass and become more of a threat to our economic existence. Have some spine and don't fold because we want China and India to sign on as fast as possible and we want some performative display as if, without China and India committing likewise, we are going to make the necessary difference without making ourselves subservient to China and India in 10 years. They are already kicking our ass.

We shut down energy purchase from Russia, and what do China and India do? They purchase at a discount and sell it back to us. We are not dealing with morons. They are playing this smarter because they are not performative actors who need to win brownie points back home.

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I have no problem insisting that India and China meet higher standards. I thought that's what past climate agreements were trying to do. I just feel we should do what we can now rather than do nothing because <China and India>.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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You should explore the differences between the heat index and air temperature. One factors in the effects of humidity (which was extreme in this case) and the other doesn't. You are correct about the heat island effect.

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Acres of airport tarmac in an area located almost exactly at the Tropic of Cancer will store and generate a whole lot of daytime heat in midsummer.

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That insane 178 degree heat index happened at 8:30 in the morning and the air temperature was only 100 degrees at the time. I doubt the daytime heating of the tarmac was in full affect at that point. The heat index record was largely influenced by the 97 degree dew point and the resultant 91 percent relative humidity at the time. Most likely the Gulf water was incredibly warm and putting vast amounts of moisture into the air.

Also, we don't know anything about the physical layout of the airport. Not all airports have their weather instruments 5 feet from the runway. It could have been 100 yards from the nearest concrete or pavement.

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79 people arrested in Greece for arson following the latest "climate change wildfires". pic.twitter.com/mW7WzwEeh8

— Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis (@DrLoupis) August 26, 2023

The “end fossil fuels” protestors who glued themselves to the stadium at the @usopen are really gonna be kicking themselves when they find out what industry is responsible for making glue.

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) September 8, 2023

BearHunter said:

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79 people arrested in Greece for arson following the latest "climate change wildfires". pic.twitter.com/mW7WzwEeh8

— Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis (@DrLoupis) August 26, 2023

climate change activists = arsonists?

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