The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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Eastern Oregon Bear
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Cal88 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

This picture actually corroborates the fact that he's posed as a woman, because there is no such a thing as adult coed rugby competition.
Hear Hear! I took a further look into the subject and after an arduous search (must have been over 5 minutes), I found a bunch of obvious crisis actors and false flag operations trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Look at these frauds!

Obviously false Oshkosh Rec League - Who believes in a town named Oshkosh anyway>






^Videos above are of touch rugby, and high school rugby.

I actually looked at that Canadian club's website, it's a competitive rugby club. They don't field adult coed teams and there is no coed competition.
Who's to say from your picture of a "transgendered" rugby player whether they were playing touch rugby or tackle rugby? You haven't even indicated what the teams involved are so we can check it out. I don't think we should just take your word for it.

None of the stuff I posted was Canadian, by the way.
blungld
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

This picture actually corroborates the fact that he's posed as a woman, because there is no such a thing as adult coed rugby competition.
Hear Hear! I took a further look into the subject and after an arduous search (must have been over 5 minutes), I found a bunch of obvious crisis actors and false flag operations trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Look at these frauds!

Obviously false Oshkosh Rec League - Who believes in a town named Oshkosh anyway>






^Videos above are of touch rugby, and high school rugby.

I actually looked at that Canadian club's website, it's a competitive rugby club. They don't field adult coed teams and there is no coed competition.
Who's to say from your picture of a "transgendered" rugby player whether they were playing touch rugby or tackle rugby? You haven't even indicated what the teams involved are so we can check it out. I don't think we should just take your word for it.

None of the stuff I posted was Canadian, by the way.


Good luck getting him to admit he is wrong…again.
sycasey
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blungld said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

This picture actually corroborates the fact that he's posed as a woman, because there is no such a thing as adult coed rugby competition.
Hear Hear! I took a further look into the subject and after an arduous search (must have been over 5 minutes), I found a bunch of obvious crisis actors and false flag operations trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Look at these frauds!

Obviously false Oshkosh Rec League - Who believes in a town named Oshkosh anyway>






^Videos above are of touch rugby, and high school rugby.

I actually looked at that Canadian club's website, it's a competitive rugby club. They don't field adult coed teams and there is no coed competition.
Who's to say from your picture of a "transgendered" rugby player whether they were playing touch rugby or tackle rugby? You haven't even indicated what the teams involved are so we can check it out. I don't think we should just take your word for it.

None of the stuff I posted was Canadian, by the way.


Good luck getting him to admit he is wrong…again.

Do we have another Time Magazine situation here?
Cal88
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

This picture actually corroborates the fact that he's posed as a woman, because there is no such a thing as adult coed rugby competition.
Hear Hear! I took a further look into the subject and after an arduous search (must have been over 5 minutes), I found a bunch of obvious crisis actors and false flag operations trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Look at these frauds!

Obviously false Oshkosh Rec League - Who believes in a town named Oshkosh anyway>






^Videos above are of touch rugby, and high school rugby.

I actually looked at that Canadian club's website, it's a competitive rugby club. They don't field adult coed teams and there is no coed competition.
Who's to say from your picture of a "transgendered" rugby player whether they were playing touch rugby or tackle rugby? You haven't even indicated what the teams involved are so we can check it out. I don't think we should just take your word for it.

None of the stuff I posted was Canadian, by the way.

The story you're debating here however is Canadian, the team in question, the Fergus Highlanders, being from southern Ontario. It's a competitive club that does not field an adult coed rugby team. You should look up the previous conversation on this topic.

You're welcome to start another thread on this subject. This is a thread about the Ukraine war.
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movielover
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I reported this theory / rumor days ago. Humm... CIA played Bigly?
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movielover
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His act is wearing thin. If Wagner forces mesh with Russia's main forces, he loses.

If the general Russian army shows well.
Cal88
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It's a parody account, though nowadays it's getting harder to tell...

He's been exiled in Belarus and stripped of his businesses. Wagner is going to keep going, in smaller units in Ukraine and with the same level of activity in Africa, where they have had a lot of success fighting governments and militias backed by France and the US.
movielover
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Twitter is temporarily (?) blocking access to non registered users.

Eastern Oregon Bear
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movielover said:

Twitter is temporarily (?) blocking access to non registered users.


To head off your conspiracy theories, access is denied to registered users too (at least our office account is down). Just another example of Elon Musk's well oiled Twitter machine.
Cal88
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movielover said:

Twitter is temporarily (?) blocking access to non registered users.


Yes I did have a problem sharing some content with some friends last night.
Cal88
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

movielover said:

Twitter is temporarily (?) blocking access to non registered users.


To head off your conspiracy theories, access is denied to registered users too (at least our office account is down). Just another example of Elon Musk's well oiled Twitter machine.

If you cut off 80% of the fat, you might also end up stripping off a little bit of the meat as well.
movielover
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Scott Ritter on the rebellion. $$$

https://www.youtube.com/live/_WAeyhh1u9E?feature=share
movielover
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HistoryLegends with another excellent video.

BearHunter
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Cal88 said:

It's a parody account, though nowadays it's getting harder to tell...


Wait, hold on. Look at what we have here.....
Cal88
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^Good trolling from Paris.
Big C
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^ If that's really Paris on July 1, 2023, how come we don't see any rioters?

"Prigozhin" just got GOT!
Big C
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^^^ That took me a few seconds to get, but is a good one. ^^^
Cal88
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It's kind of ironic that only last week after Prigozhin's romp Macron gleefully boasted about Russia getting plunged into deep social chaos and a civil war.

After nearly a year and a half into this war, reality is starting to catch up with media outlets, think tanks and politicians having to slowly acknowledge the lack of viable military options for Ukraine, here is a good sample:



https://www.thedailybeast.com/former-us-troops-reveal-most-horrifying-surprises-of-russias-war-in-ukraine
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excerpts:

Two former U.S. troops who fought in Ukraine spoke with The Daily Beast about what they didn't see coming in Vladimir Putin's war.


In the days preceding Russia's invasion of Ukraine, David Bramlette ...was in the middle of earning a master's degree from Johns Hopkins in international affairs. ...David, who had previously completed stints working for the U.S. military as a Green Beret on a counter-Russia mission and as an Army Ranger in Iraq and Afghanistan, felt compelled to go fight the Russians.

Bramlette was caught off guard by how many people picked up and went to Ukraine to help fight without having any military experience. "There's a lot of really dumb-ass volunteers over here who have no business being in a war," he said. He hooked up with two other Green Berets to form a multi-national squad of about 12 people to form a small unit tactics team, or a special operations team. "And then essentially, they give us orders for Kharkiv and said, 'Go kill as many Russians as you can,'" he said.

"This is my third war I've fought in, and this is by far the worst one," Offenbecker told The Daily Beast. "You're getting ****ing smashed with artillery, tanks. Last week I had a plane drop a bomb next to us, like 300 meters away. It's horrifying *****"

The missions were grueling, Bramlette said. In Iraq or Afghanistan, Bramlette had air support, or supporting ISR, or intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. "The worst day in Afghanistan and Iraq is a great day in Ukraine," he said. "If two of them get injured… there's no helicopter coming to get you… **** can go south really, really frickin' quickly. And that's the kind of stuff that is pretty hard."

Without drastically changing their approach, they were setting themselves up for failure. "I was just afraid we would go out and do what we normally do and we'd all basically die," he added.


Also, NATO think tanks are starting to acknowledge that Russia is also winning the industrial war:

Russia Isn't Going to Run Out of Missiles
https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia-isnt-going-run-out-missiles

Unit2Sucks
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Still deep in fog of war on the offensive but we know that this war is wreaking a massive human toll on both sides. Putin would point out that Russian casualties don't count because he doesn't care about his people. That's in line with the propaganda which never speaks at all to the fact that this has been the deadliest war for Russian fighters since WWII.



There's been a lot of propaganda over selling the UFA equipment losses early in the offensive. Similar to the propaganda about the destruction of a patriot battery by Kinzhal missiles that never happened, the reality is far from what the shills represent.



State propaganda has already begun to erase Prigozhin from history, 1984 style. Not long ago he was the savior and hero who won Bakhmut.

At least they now admit Bakhmut wasn't strategic.





https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/01/yevgeny-prigozhin-russian-media-erase-warlord-wagner-moscow
Cal88
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Unit2Sucks said:

Still deep in fog of war on the offensive but we know that this war is wreaking a massive human toll on both sides. Putin would point out that Russian casualties don't count because he doesn't care about his people. That's in line with the propaganda which never speaks at all to the fact that this has been the deadliest war for Russian fighters since WWII.



There's been a lot of propaganda over selling the UFA equipment losses early in the offensive. Similar to the propaganda about the destruction of a patriot battery by Kinzhal missiles that never happened, the reality is far from what the shills represent.

Most of the content you post here comes from 3 or 4 twitter sources, Dmitri, Trent, Tendar and lately ChrisO. A common feature in their content is a huge amount of projection, and a pattern of making unsubstantiated speculation supported by a couple of pictures.

Fact is, Ukraine has been sustaining some of its biggest losses of the entire war in the conduct of their counteroffensive, this is the first time during the war that they've tried to storm well-defended multi-layered trench systems, under heavy artillery bombardment, with zero air support and lower artillery resources. In the battles of the Donbass, it was the other way around, with the Russians attacking well-fortified defensive lines that the Ukrainians have built over the past several years. But even then, the Russians did OK because they proceeded very slowly, behind a curtain of artillery.

Bottom line, the Ukrainians have had heavy losses, attacking on open, flat terrain without air cover. Even Zaluzhny acknowledged that they were sustaining lopsided losses. So it's their own hospitals that are likely to be overwhelmed now - projection.

And the Russians, who are producing gigantic quantities of shells, missiles, tanks etc,... are running out of anesthetics? They can't import these cheap drugs from India, country with which they have a huge trade surplus, or produce enough of these generic drugs at home? Those stories are a bit goofy...
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Could they? Would they? They wouldn't, right?
movielover
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I think Zelensky (Azov?) is projecting.
DiabloWags
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Cal88 said:


The story you're debating here however is Canadian, the team in question, the Fergus Highlanders, being from southern Ontario. It's a competitive club that does not field an adult coed rugby team. You should look up the previous conversation on this topic.




And you (or Movieclown) have been unable to post a single article from any standard media source supporting the claim made by a Twitter account that the Fergus Hamilton player was transgender.

Thats a FACT.

But you and Movieclown arent interested in FACTS that dont support your narrative.

Thats why OT is a cesspool.
And a waste of time.



Cal88
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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:


The story you're debating here however is Canadian, the team in question, the Fergus Highlanders, being from southern Ontario. It's a competitive club that does not field an adult coed rugby team. You should look up the previous conversation on this topic.


And you (or Movieclown) have been able to post a single article from any standard media source supporting the claim made by a Twitter account that the Fergus Hamilton player was transgender.

Thats a FACT.

But you and Movieclown arent interested in FACTS that dont support your narrative.


And you haven't been able to post anything refuting it...

There was a youtube video of the match in question that the club had originally published, which they've soon afterwards turned into private. So it looks like the club (and league?) didn't want to deal with the aggravation and snuffed the story in the bud.

I've also mentioned a quasi identical and much more public case of a big rugged trans athlete that dominated female OZ rules football competition and was barred from competing after complaints from physically overwhelmed female competitors, the case of Hannah Mouncey:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9155345/Transgender-footy-star-Hannah-Mouncey-sues-AFL.html
BearHunter
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movielover said:

I think Zelensky (Azov?) is projecting.
Lindsey Graham said NATO would launch a full attack on Russia if they attacked a nuclear facility just *weeks* ago and now his dream might be coming true

And this past weekend at a Trump rally in South Carolina, his own voters booed Graham during his speech.
movielover
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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:


The story you're debating here however is Canadian, the team in question, the Fergus Highlanders, being from southern Ontario. It's a competitive club that does not field an adult coed rugby team. You should look up the previous conversation on this topic.




And you (or Movieclown) have been unable to post a single article from any standard media source supporting the claim made by a Twitter account that the Fergus Hamilton player was transgender.

Thats a FACT.

But you and Movieclown arent interested in FACTS that dont support your narrative.

Thats why OT is a cesspool.
And a waste of time.




More name calling by the spoiled Liberal child.
movielover
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The CIA is leaking again, and Zelensynis whining about it.

Anonymous Source Says CIA Director Went Secretly to Ukraine

"An anonymous source 'leaked' information about a secret meeting between CIA Director William Burns and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his senior officials."

https://www.independentsentinel.com/anonymous-source-says-cia-director-went-secretly-to-ukraine/

Meanwhile, Russia is striking Kyiv with drones, UKR claims all were shot down.
Cal88
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La Resistance said:

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Payback money for the bribe.
Seems a little short of the "trillions and trillions" amount some of you keep claiming we've spent on Ukraine.

The expenditures have only just begun: Whatever ends up being left of an independent Ukraine, we will "help" them build it back up, which is probably a helluva lot more expensive than destroying it was.

Good thing there's nothing worth investing in in this country... and good thing the national debt is now meaningless. (Sarcasm. Do I really need to say it?)
Blackrock already has huge influence in the White House.


Blackrock is eyeing Ukraine's assets, notably their large swath of highly fertile black earth that they think they can acquire for pennies on the dollar. The emptier the country becomes ("to the last Ukrainian") , the more dire the economic devastation gets, the better it will look on their balance sheet.

This Ukrainian land grab by multinationals started out a decade ago, with other players like Bayer-Monsanto, Cargill etc positioning themselves. for a land rush, along with local oligarchs.

https://www.oaklandinstitute.org/new-report-take-over-ukrainian-agricultural-land

https://www.oaklandinstitute.org/war-theft-takeover-ukraine-agricultural-land

https://www.farmlandgrab.org/post/view/30445-who-really-benefits-from-the-creation-of-a-land-market-in-ukraine

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/jul/30/ukraine-agribusiness-firms-quiet-land-grab-development-finance


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Is an attack on one of Ukraine's nuclear plants just a matter of time?
Eastern Oregon Bear
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BearHunter said:

Is an attack on one of Ukraine's nuclear plants just a matter of time?
It's your fantasy wet dream. You tell us.
movielover
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BearHunter said:

Is an attack on one of Ukraine's nuclear plants just a matter of time?


Given how desperate Biden / Blinken / NATO are, they openly seem to desire a major escalation, a significant PR stunt, to give them the moral backing needed to enter NATO into WWIII. What qualifies? The Nazi's are Ukrainian... so one of the only options is a false flag attack against the shuttered nuclear power plant.

Russia could bomb trans shipment depots in Poland, but that hasn't happened so far. They appear to be very controlled, despite CNN PR.
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False premise.
This administration puts handcuffs on the Ukrainians because they are scared ****less of starting WW3.
movielover
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tequila4kapp said:

False premise.
This administration puts handcuffs on the Ukrainians because they are scared ****less of starting WW3.


How so? Please give specific examples.

Ukraine / NATO / Biden have:

- spent at least 8 years preparing to go to war with Russia
- allowed or co-conspired to blow up Nordstream pipelines
- supplied and used uranium-depleted munitions
- blew up a local dam
- not authentically fulfilled the Minsk Accords
- halted a peace agreement with Russia
- supplied hundreds of Billions in funding
- emptied out the NATO and EU stockpiles of munitions and military equipment at a historic level unseen since WWII
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