How can Russia be running out of ammunition when:

1. It is a manufacturing powerhouse
2. It never gave up manufacturing, like America and much of the EU
3. It's not populated by whacky peaceniks; they're realists
4. It has abundant raw materials, including cheap, reliable energy
5. It had massive stockpiles to begin with
6. They have a lower cost basis
7. Iran supplied them w low-cost drones
8. International objective logistics entities have tracked massive shipments from North Korea of easily tracked 40' shipping containers to Russia and near the staging areas / depots
9. They've been watching NATO march eastward for 2 decades

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If the case against Trump was so weak, how did the jury and the appeals court not see through it? They both found against him.

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Democrat New York Trump-TDS jury?

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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If the case against Trump was so weak, how did the jury and the appeals court not see through it? They both found against him.

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Appellate courts aren't triers of fact. They deferred to the NY legislature, and they must accept the jury's verdict (factual determination), absent evidence the judge improperly directed them on New York's new law.

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Okay, so how did the jury get so badly fooled here?

(Yes, I know that a civil case has a lower standard of proof than a criminal one. Still, they seemed to return a unanimous verdict pretty quickly.)

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Are you really surprised that a jury pool that voted 87% against Trump would find him guilty, especially after the media has portrayed him as a monster? They simply don't like him. A lot of people don't.

🇺🇦 As I said before Zelensky struggles to speak a clean Ukranian and constantly adds Russian words to it.

-> Lex dubbed it in 3 languages, hiding this fact.

But if you’re watch the original it’s there.

Zelensky learned Ukranian recently. It’s kinda funny. pic.twitter.com/urw2vEZMGT

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) January 5, 2025

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philly1121 said:

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No 88. What I am saying is you are completely bent. It's astonishing that you eat this Russian hype. What I wrote was that Glenn Diesen is a Russian propagandist so ANYTHING coming out of this guys mouth or that he tweets should be taken for exactly what it is: Russian propaganda. Do you deny that this man is on RT? That this man is part of a Putin think tank? Are you that washed?

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Do you get paid to spout nato propaganda no matter how untruthful it is?

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Tell me exactly what the NATO propaganda is? I'm curious. Give me a baseline of NATO propaganda. Because I'm more debunking 88's outlandish reposting of tweets more than I am trying to back up NATO. I'm wondering why 88 is in the bag for Russia. He's no peacenik. He isn't saying "make love not war". He's actively cheering for Russia. I'm debunking Russian propaganda and calling out his "sources" more than defending NATO. So give me some nato propaganda and we can go from there.

Are you still not going to admit that the Biden Ukraine conspiracy stuff was a lie? You got the win. Can you just admit that it was all a lie?

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Cal88 laid some of it out at 537 pm today. Are you a paid shill? Thanks.

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And I said all those tweets were from Russian aligned social media. Can he give me something a bit more independent minded? probably not.

lol I am not paid by NATO. But 88 clearly is either Russian, is getting paid or is spouting propaganda and doesn't know he's being influenced by the Russians.

Again, I ask, where is the NATO propaganda?

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oski003 said:

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philly1121 said:

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No 88. What I am saying is you are completely bent. It's astonishing that you eat this Russian hype. What I wrote was that Glenn Diesen is a Russian propagandist so ANYTHING coming out of this guys mouth or that he tweets should be taken for exactly what it is: Russian propaganda. Do you deny that this man is on RT? That this man is part of a Putin think tank? Are you that washed?

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Do you get paid to spout nato propaganda no matter how untruthful it is?

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Tell me exactly what the NATO propaganda is? I'm curious. Give me a baseline of NATO propaganda. Because I'm more debunking 88's outlandish reposting of tweets more than I am trying to back up NATO. I'm wondering why 88 is in the bag for Russia. He's no peacenik. He isn't saying "make love not war". He's actively cheering for Russia. I'm debunking Russian propaganda and calling out his "sources" more than defending NATO. So give me some nato propaganda and we can go from there.

Are you still not going to admit that the Biden Ukraine conspiracy stuff was a lie? You got the win. Can you just admit that it was all a lie?

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Cal88 laid some of it out at 537 pm today. Are you a paid shill? Thanks.

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And I said all those tweets were from Russian aligned social media. Can he give me something a bit more independent minded? probably not.

lol I am not paid by NATO. But 88 clearly is either Russian, is getting paid or is spouting propaganda and doesn't know he's being influenced by the Russians.

Again, I ask, where is the NATO propaganda?

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Russia running out of ammo. Natos counter-offensive crushing Russia. Russia's economy collapsing. Russia blowing up its own pipeline. 1000 North Korean troops killed. Putin not stopping to take all of Eastern Europe. Etc... Etc... Etc... Some of this was mentioned in Cal 88's post that I reference but you apparently can't read.

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philly1121 said:

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philly1121 said:

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philly1121 said:

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No 88. What I am saying is you are completely bent. It's astonishing that you eat this Russian hype. What I wrote was that Glenn Diesen is a Russian propagandist so ANYTHING coming out of this guys mouth or that he tweets should be taken for exactly what it is: Russian propaganda. Do you deny that this man is on RT? That this man is part of a Putin think tank? Are you that washed?

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Do you get paid to spout nato propaganda no matter how untruthful it is?

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Tell me exactly what the NATO propaganda is? I'm curious. Give me a baseline of NATO propaganda. Because I'm more debunking 88's outlandish reposting of tweets more than I am trying to back up NATO. I'm wondering why 88 is in the bag for Russia. He's no peacenik. He isn't saying "make love not war". He's actively cheering for Russia. I'm debunking Russian propaganda and calling out his "sources" more than defending NATO. So give me some nato propaganda and we can go from there.

Are you still not going to admit that the Biden Ukraine conspiracy stuff was a lie? You got the win. Can you just admit that it was all a lie?

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Cal88 laid some of it out at 537 pm today. Are you a paid shill? Thanks.

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And I said all those tweets were from Russian aligned social media. Can he give me something a bit more independent minded? probably not.

lol I am not paid by NATO. But 88 clearly is either Russian, is getting paid or is spouting propaganda and doesn't know he's being influenced by the Russians.

Again, I ask, where is the NATO propaganda?

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Russia running out of ammo. Natos counter-offensive crushing Russia. Russia's economy collapsing. Russia blowing up its own pipeline. 1000 North Korean troops killed. Putin not stopping to take all of Eastern Europe. Etc... Etc... Etc... Some of this was mentioned in Cal 88's post that I reference but you apparently can't read.

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I don't read bull**it posts. So you're saying NATO is publishing all of that? Or...the dreaded "mainstream media". Provide me with links apart from 88's propagandist tweet reposts.

As for running out of ammo. I never posted that and no arms estimate I have seen has reported that. What I have read is that in mid 2025, Russia is going to have an artillery problem. As for Russian economic collapse - same deal. Wartime economy; wage and pay incentives to join either arms industry or actually joining the army is shrinking civil society employment. 21% interests rates also shrinking civil economy. Not happening now but look to mid 2025. Do you have any information apart from 88's Russian propaganda that show North Korean soldiers haven't taken any casualties? If so, where? Its near 3 years on now. I thought this gonna be over in 3 days?

Writes the bot that signed up today. 5 posts? gtfo

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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If the case against Trump was so weak, how did the jury and the appeals court not see through it? They both found against him.

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Appellate courts aren't triers of fact. They deferred to the NY legislature, and they must accept the jury's verdict (factual determination), absent evidence the judge improperly directed them on New York's new law.

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Okay, so how did the jury get so badly fooled here?

(Yes, I know that a civil case has a lower standard of proof than a criminal one. Still, they seemed to return a unanimous verdict pretty quickly.)

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The trial judge has tremendous discretion, particularly as to what evidence the jury does and does not see. Is there any real doubt that the judge in this case was horribly biased against Trump?

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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If the case against Trump was so weak, how did the jury and the appeals court not see through it? They both found against him.

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Appellate courts aren't triers of fact. They deferred to the NY legislature, and they must accept the jury's verdict (factual determination), absent evidence the judge improperly directed them on New York's new law.

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Okay, so how did the jury get so badly fooled here?

(Yes, I know that a civil case has a lower standard of proof than a criminal one. Still, they seemed to return a unanimous verdict pretty quickly.)

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The trial judge has tremendous discretion, particularly as to what evidence the jury does and does not see. Is there any real doubt that the judge in this case was horribly biased against Trump?

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In what ways do you think he actively swayed the verdict?

Can you imagine being part of a Russian disinformation campaign and your assignment is to post garbage on a sub forum for a college athletics program that was almost relegated due to its incompetent leadership and (unfortunately) relatively dead fanbase? This is Siberia.

Sheesh. Such glory for Mother Russia!

Anyway… GO BEARS!

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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If the case against Trump was so weak, how did the jury and the appeals court not see through it? They both found against him.

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Appellate courts aren't triers of fact. They deferred to the NY legislature, and they must accept the jury's verdict (factual determination), absent evidence the judge improperly directed them on New York's new law.

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Okay, so how did the jury get so badly fooled here?

(Yes, I know that a civil case has a lower standard of proof than a criminal one. Still, they seemed to return a unanimous verdict pretty quickly.)

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The trial judge has tremendous discretion, particularly as to what evidence the jury does and does not see. Is there any real doubt that the judge in this case was horribly biased against Trump?

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In what ways do you think he actively swayed the verdict?

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Well, for one thing, the judge was a democratic donor, including a 2020 donation to Biden for President. His daughter was also a dem fundraiser who was actively fundraising based on the happenings in the case. So he should have recused.

To answer your question, here are some examples of bias.

Letting in irrelevant and inflammatory Storm Daniels testimony. https://nypost.com/2024/05/07/opinion/judge-allows-stormy-daniels-to-give-irrelevant-salacious-testimony-just-to-humiliate-trump/

More from Turley here, with a focus on jury instructions which were improper in many respects. https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4691715-a-manhattan-canned-hunt-the-trump-jury-is-out-but-is-the-case-in-the-bag/

more here on Jury instructions not following supreme court rulings: https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/05/merchan-and-bragg-fashion-a-vague-fraud-instruction-to-convict-trump/amp/

Merchan Imposed an unconstitutional gag order on Trump - eventually reversed by appellate court.

Merchan would not allow Trump to introduce evidence that Federal investigators did not find a violation of election law (which is what the prosecutor Bragg was arguing to support his case). On top of that, he allowed Cohen's guilty plea deal to be introduced into evidence to imply Trump had committed a crime - and allowed the prosecution to make that exact argument.

To that point, Merchan would not permit former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith to testify as to the meaning and complexities of the Federal Election Campaign Act. This was a disputed issue at the trial and he allowed the prosecution to pursue a novel (and previously rejected) theory of alleged federal election violations.

Refusing to recess the trial to allow Trump to attend his supreme court hearing.

Forcing Trump presidential aides to testify regarding presidential decisions/acts and then allowing the prosecution to use Trump's official acts as evidence of a claimed crime. The Supreme Court subsequently ruled this was not permitted yet Merchan has refused to set aside the verdict.

Here is a good overview which discusses some of the above as well as additional points:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/04/how-judge-merchan-is-orchestrating-trumps-conviction/

Here is a more partisan summary which also expands upon some of the points described above.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://media.aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/01181702/Merged-One-Pagers.pdf

here is an article from a firmly on the left source (Vox) that does a pretty good job describing some of what happened, including what Merchan permitted.

https://www.vox.com/politics/353111/trump-trial-verdict-criticisms-wrongly-convicted

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sycasey said:

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BearGoggles said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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If the case against Trump was so weak, how did the jury and the appeals court not see through it? They both found against him.

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Appellate courts aren't triers of fact. They deferred to the NY legislature, and they must accept the jury's verdict (factual determination), absent evidence the judge improperly directed them on New York's new law.

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Okay, so how did the jury get so badly fooled here?

(Yes, I know that a civil case has a lower standard of proof than a criminal one. Still, they seemed to return a unanimous verdict pretty quickly.)

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The trial judge has tremendous discretion, particularly as to what evidence the jury does and does not see. Is there any real doubt that the judge in this case was horribly biased against Trump?

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In what ways do you think he actively swayed the verdict?

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Well, for one thing, the judge was a democratic donor, including a 2020 donation to Biden for President. His daughter was also a dem fundraiser who was actively fundraising based on the happenings in the case. So he should have recused.

To answer your question, here are some examples of bias.

Letting in irrelevant and inflammatory Storm Daniels testimony. https://nypost.com/2024/05/07/opinion/judge-allows-stormy-daniels-to-give-irrelevant-salacious-testimony-just-to-humiliate-trump/

More from Turley here, with a focus on jury instructions which were improper in many respects. https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4691715-a-manhattan-canned-hunt-the-trump-jury-is-out-but-is-the-case-in-the-bag/

more here on Jury instructions not following supreme court rulings: https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/05/merchan-and-bragg-fashion-a-vague-fraud-instruction-to-convict-trump/amp/

Merchan Imposed an unconstitutional gag order on Trump - eventually reversed by appellate court.

Merchan would not allow Trump to introduce evidence that Federal investigators did not find a violation of election law (which is what the prosecutor Bragg was arguing to support his case). On top of that, he allowed Cohen's guilty plea deal to be introduced into evidence to imply Trump had committed a crime - and allowed the prosecution to make that exact argument.

To that point, Merchan would not permit former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith to testify as to the meaning and complexities of the Federal Election Campaign Act. This was a disputed issue at the trial and he allowed the prosecution to pursue a novel (and previously rejected) theory of alleged federal election violations.

Refusing to recess the trial to allow Trump to attend his supreme court hearing.

Forcing Trump presidential aides to testify regarding presidential decisions/acts and then allowing the prosecution to use Trump's official acts as evidence of a claimed crime. The Supreme Court subsequently ruled this was not permitted yet Merchan has refused to set aside the verdict.

Here is a good overview which discusses some of the above as well as additional points:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/04/how-judge-merchan-is-orchestrating-trumps-conviction/

Here is a more partisan summary which also expands upon some of the points described above.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://media.aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/01181702/Merged-One-Pagers.pdf

here is an article from a firmly on the left source (Vox) that does a pretty good job describing some of what happened, including what Merchan permitted.

https://www.vox.com/politics/353111/trump-trial-verdict-criticisms-wrongly-convicted

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We were talking about the E. Jean Carroll sexual assault case, not the falsified records/hush money case. I know, it can get confusing because there are so many charges against Trump.

Yes, so many fraudulent cases and Kangaroo courts. They didn't care if they were reversed on appeal, they just wanted to bury him.

I hope a few get payback. Myorkis for treason? Reinstate lying Generals and court martial a few? Pull security clearances ($$$).

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Internet Operative Log For Glory of Mother Russia:

Today is day 1050 of 3 for me at internet Siberia post Bear Insider. I have spent the last 3 years (out of 3 days) providing information to the same 7 individual posters and an additional one that has seemed to have roughly as many screen names as days that have passed. Some of the group seem to be interested in football, though they in general don't have much to talk about. Of interest lately was defection of a field general to another university in Indiana. Antics like those they speak of him engaging in would be met with a balcony visit in Mother Russia. There is an interesting fellow who is obsessed with young women in yoga pants who talks to himself in his own thread. He is a curious fellow. The university also apparently has a men's basketball team, but nobody speaks of them.

Oh well, it's time for me to get back to work. I am grateful for ChatCCCP as it saves me much time. I believe I will post picture of Moscow's beautiful metro station today. Those never get old.

I miss my family. I can't believe that this is what I am doing with my time on this planet but know that I'm making a big difference.

Viva Putin and GO BEARS (I refer to the Moscow Circus here)!

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The only way he is so brainwashed into thinking he is on a 3 day mission if he listens to Philly's shilled nato propaganda and somehow has no communication with his military leaders. I highly doubt that.

oski003 said:

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Haloski said:

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Internet Operative Log For Glory of Mother Russia:

Today is day 1050 of 3 for me at internet Siberia post Bear Insider. I have spent the last 3 years (out of 3 days) providing information to the same 7 individual posters and an additional one that has seemed to have roughly as many screen names as days that have passed. Some of the group seem to be interested in football, though they in general don't have much to talk about. Of interest lately was defection of a field general to another university in Indiana. Antics like those they speak of him engaging in would be met with a balcony visit in Mother Russia. There is an interesting fellow who is obsessed with young women in yoga pants who talks to himself in his own thread. He is a curious fellow. The university also apparently has a men's basketball team, but nobody speaks of them.

Oh well, it's time for me to get back to work. I am grateful for ChatCCCP as it saves me much time. I believe I will post picture of Moscow's beautiful metro station today. Those never get old.

I miss my family. I can't believe that this is what I am doing with my time on this planet but know that I'm making a big difference.

Viva Putin and GO BEARS (I refer to the Moscow Circus here)!

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The only way he is so brainwashed into thinking he is on a 3 day mission if he listens to Philly's shilled nato propaganda and somehow has no communication with his military leaders. I highly doubt that.

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Make glorious Mother Russia, 003. You're doing great.