The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14363275/Russian-colonels-plunge-high-windows-one-killed-mysterious-deaths-putin.html#

88 does not find any of this suspicious. Some Russians are just clumsy.
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Haloski said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14363275/Russian-colonels-plunge-high-windows-one-killed-mysterious-deaths-putin.html#

88 does not find any of this suspicious. Some Russians are just clumsy.


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sycasey said:

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I believe this is the phone call RFK Jr. was referring to in his interview with Tucker between Victoria Nuland and the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine to decide who was going to play puppet president for Ukraine. USAID used $5 billion of taxpayer money to fund the 2014 revolution.
Once again, this is just an example of people in the US government speculating about who would win in Ukraine and who they'd prefer to see. It's not proof that they orchestrated an overthrow.

Their "speculations" are nearly as good as Nancy's stock picking skills.
I can't believe that the US ambassador to Ukraine might have a good idea of how the country's politics will evolve!

The U.S. ambassador may have had a good idea how Ukraine's politics will evolve because he probably knew the U.S. controlled Ukraine's media.



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This is huge, it might mark the beginning of the end of the war:



Edit: this is covered in ML's video above, you will learn much more listening to it about the situation in Russia than you will reading the NYT or watching the Sunday morning news panels.
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"This is huge, it might mark the beginning of the end…"

That's what I said about the outcome of the election.




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Heh.
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Interesting development. Classic Trump leverage move? We cut funding, pull leadership, and hand it off to the likely understaffed and underfunded Brits?
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Yay! This means the Russians can kill even more innocent people. But you guys are against the war, right. This cheerleading post from Bebo is just for information, right? You're not trying to flex and show how smart the team you support is and how stupid the other side is?


Make sure you find some gory pictures of the "targets" (or, "civilians") mangled beyond recognition! That's always good for moral and whipping up the masses - pictures of the dead filthy enemies.
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AunBear89 said:

Yay! This means the Russians can kill even more innocent people. But you guys are against the war, right. This cheerleading post from Beto is just for information, right? Your not trying to flex and show how smart the team you support is and how stupid the other side is?


Make sure you find some gory pictures of the "targets" (or, "civilians") mangled beyond recognition! That's always good for moral and whipping up the masses - pictures of the dead filthy enemies.

The percentage of civilian deaths in this war is around 1%-2%. Contrast with Israel's war on Palestine where it's well above 90%.

The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate, because at this stage most of their soldiers don't want to be there, they have been forcefully conscripted by the Kiev regime, which is determined to carry out NATO's war To The Last Ukrainian.
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So surprising - deflection and whataboutism from 88.
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Cal88 said:


The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate,


Who are you trying to fool? Yourself?

A dead Ukrainian is another dead Ukrainian. Putin doesn't care about bodies - his or theirs - he just want a to take back what the Soviet Union lost.

So let's celebrate with Lord Bebo this new and creative way to increase the supply of dead Ukrainians! Can we expect you to help movielover to post the graphic photos of the results?
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AunBear89 said:

Cal88 said:


The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate,


Who are you trying to fool? Yourself?

A dead Ukrainian is another dead Ukrainian. Putin doesn't care about bodies - his or theirs - he just want a to take back what the Soviet Union lost.

So let's celebrate with Lord Bebo this new and creative way to increase the supply of dead Ukrainians! Can we expect you to help movielover to post the graphic photos of the results?


I think you mean America's MIC, Langley, radical Democrats, Jake Sullivan, and Lloyd Austin don't mind butchering Ukrainian lives.

Putin repeatedly asked for talks, and peace, over years.
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Who the fu&@ do you think are to tell me what I mean? Keep your insane conspiracy theories and cult think to yourself.

Putin started the war. Russia invaded INVADED I N V A D E D a sovereign nation.
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Zelensy and NATO are going to kill as many young Ukrainians as they can.

Will the local church allow bigamy after the war, or shall Ukrainian women marry Poles, Latvians and Russians?

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Cal88 said:

AunBear89 said:

Yay! This means the Russians can kill even more innocent people. But you guys are against the war, right. This cheerleading post from Beto is just for information, right? Your not trying to flex and show how smart the team you support is and how stupid the other side is?


Make sure you find some gory pictures of the "targets" (or, "civilians") mangled beyond recognition! That's always good for moral and whipping up the masses - pictures of the dead filthy enemies.

The percentage of civilian deaths in this war is around 1%-2%. Contrast with Israel's war on Palestine where it's well above 90%.

The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate, because at this stage most of their soldiers don't want to be there, they have been forcefully conscripted by the Kiev regime, which is determined to carry out NATO's war To The Last Ukrainian.
90%? LMAO. You just make up crap. Not even Hamas has claimed this.
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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

AunBear89 said:

Yay! This means the Russians can kill even more innocent people. But you guys are against the war, right. This cheerleading post from Beto is just for information, right? Your not trying to flex and show how smart the team you support is and how stupid the other side is?


Make sure you find some gory pictures of the "targets" (or, "civilians") mangled beyond recognition! That's always good for moral and whipping up the masses - pictures of the dead filthy enemies.

The percentage of civilian deaths in this war is around 1%-2%. Contrast with Israel's war on Palestine where it's well above 90%.

The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate, because at this stage most of their soldiers don't want to be there, they have been forcefully conscripted by the Kiev regime, which is determined to carry out NATO's war To The Last Ukrainian.
90%? LMAO. You just make up crap. Not even Hamas has claimed this.


60% of the Gazans bombed to death were women, children and men over 65. You get to 90% by assuming that 1 in 4 men under 65 killed were combattants, a reasonable number given the indiscriminate nature and massive scale of the carpet bombing, pulverizing an area the size of Manhattan with the equivalent of 4 Hiroshima bombs.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/10/gaza-death-toll-40-higher-than-official-number-lancet-study-finds

You're the guy that claimed that Israel did not carpet bomb Gaza, that that one hospital was bombed because it was a secret Hamas base with a tunnel network and so forth. In other words, you have zero credibility on that subject.
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Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

AunBear89 said:

Yay! This means the Russians can kill even more innocent people. But you guys are against the war, right. This cheerleading post from Beto is just for information, right? Your not trying to flex and show how smart the team you support is and how stupid the other side is?


Make sure you find some gory pictures of the "targets" (or, "civilians") mangled beyond recognition! That's always good for moral and whipping up the masses - pictures of the dead filthy enemies.

The percentage of civilian deaths in this war is around 1%-2%. Contrast with Israel's war on Palestine where it's well above 90%.

The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate, because at this stage most of their soldiers don't want to be there, they have been forcefully conscripted by the Kiev regime, which is determined to carry out NATO's war To The Last Ukrainian.
90%? LMAO. You just make up crap. Not even Hamas has claimed this.


60% of the Gazans bombed to death were women, children and men over 65. You get to 90% by assuming that 1 in 4 men under 65 killed were combattants, a reasonable number given the indiscriminate nature and massive scale of the carpet bombing, pulverizing an area the size of Manhattan with the equivalent of 4 Hiroshima bombs.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/10/gaza-death-toll-40-higher-than-official-number-lancet-study-finds

You're the guy that claimed that Israel did not carpet bomb Gaza, that that one hospital was bombed because it was a secret Hamas base with a tunnel network and so forth. In other words, you have zero credibility on that subject.
Your assumptions are not reasonable, particularly when "children' and men over 65 are often combatants. Beyond that, your assumption of 1-4 is wrong (not even Hamas has claimed that) and it is just a lie to claim that carpet bombing took place.

And it has been proven that Hamas was using hospitals for military purposes. Again, that is really beyond dispute and you are just gaslighting.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/02/12/world/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-israel-hamas.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html

Is it really your position that Hamas does not use civilians as human shields?
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movielover said:

AunBear89 said:

Cal88 said:


The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate,


Who are you trying to fool? Yourself?

A dead Ukrainian is another dead Ukrainian. Putin doesn't care about bodies - his or theirs - he just want a to take back what the Soviet Union lost.

So let's celebrate with Lord Bebo this new and creative way to increase the supply of dead Ukrainians! Can we expect you to help movielover to post the graphic photos of the results?


I think you mean America's MIC, Langley, radical Democrats, Jake Sullivan, and Lloyd Austin don't mind butchering Ukrainian lives.

Putin repeatedly asked for talks, and peace, over years.


They MADE him do it. He had no option!
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I hate to blow my own horn here, but this thread is sniffing at Shocky level thread views:

1,016,911 Views

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bearister said:

I hate to blow my own horn here, but this thread is sniffing at Shocky level thread views:

1,016,911 Views

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'Cause I'm awesome
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That's a lot of views for a 3 day war.

All of us participants congratulate you.
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Don't forget dropping phosphorus.
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Haloski said:

movielover said:

AunBear89 said:

Cal88 said:


The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate,


Who are you trying to fool? Yourself?

A dead Ukrainian is another dead Ukrainian. Putin doesn't care about bodies - his or theirs - he just want a to take back what the Soviet Union lost.

So let's celebrate with Lord Bebo this new and creative way to increase the supply of dead Ukrainians! Can we expect you to help movielover to post the graphic photos of the results?


I think you mean America's MIC, Langley, radical Democrats, Jake Sullivan, and Lloyd Austin don't mind butchering Ukrainian lives.

Putin repeatedly asked for talks, and peace, over years.


They MADE him do it. He had no option!


When countries enact a civil war w culturally Russia residents next door, bio weapons labs on your doorstep, the C-A with a dozen 'secret' buildings within reach, NATO building up your neighbor for ten years, NATOs unrelenting eastward expansion, the West saber rattling, a half dozen requests to stop or engage in talks ignored, with the cherry on top the nearby pro-Russian PM ousted in an open coup by the same West... Yaakov, he had no other choice.

Colonel Douglass McGregor asserts Putin then launched a 'soft' invasion to get folks attention, but when Ukraine had some early success and Russian troops retreated to avoid losses, the West viewed Putin as a paper tiger and decided to double down on stupid. Russia geared up and has probably killed a million Ukrainian men by now. Very sad athe world.

NATO is gutted and Russia now likely has the number one military in the world. Another Blinken / Sullivan disaster.
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My apologies to 88, 2034, Minot, et cetera, for your boy Putin will not be pleased.

https://www.euractiv.com/section/eet/news/baltic-grid-divorce-will-further-isolate-russian-exclave-in-the-eu/?fbclid=IwY2xjawITt2RleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYLOHCWe75bgNtDKPKLJBB6ERP_QJkD5kins4TBsQm9ygmIYbtlXROK0aQ_aem_4vbwQwxhbxgGpJsvlye-9Q
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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

AunBear89 said:

Yay! This means the Russians can kill even more innocent people. But you guys are against the war, right. This cheerleading post from Beto is just for information, right? Your not trying to flex and show how smart the team you support is and how stupid the other side is?


Make sure you find some gory pictures of the "targets" (or, "civilians") mangled beyond recognition! That's always good for moral and whipping up the masses - pictures of the dead filthy enemies.

The percentage of civilian deaths in this war is around 1%-2%. Contrast with Israel's war on Palestine where it's well above 90%.

The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate, because at this stage most of their soldiers don't want to be there, they have been forcefully conscripted by the Kiev regime, which is determined to carry out NATO's war To The Last Ukrainian.
90%? LMAO. You just make up crap. Not even Hamas has claimed this.


60% of the Gazans bombed to death were women, children and men over 65. You get to 90% by assuming that 1 in 4 men under 65 killed were combattants, a reasonable number given the indiscriminate nature and massive scale of the carpet bombing, pulverizing an area the size of Manhattan with the equivalent of 4 Hiroshima bombs.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/10/gaza-death-toll-40-higher-than-official-number-lancet-study-finds

You're the guy that claimed that Israel did not carpet bomb Gaza, that that one hospital was bombed because it was a secret Hamas base with a tunnel network and so forth. In other words, you have zero credibility on that subject.
Your assumptions are not reasonable, particularly when "children' and men over 65 are often combatants. Beyond that, your assumption of 1-4 is wrong (not even Hamas has claimed that) and it is just a lie to claim that carpet bombing took place.

And it has been proven that Hamas was using hospitals for military purposes. Again, that is really beyond dispute and you are just gaslighting.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/02/12/world/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-israel-hamas.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html

Is it really your position that Hamas does not use civilians as human shields?

Does this child, who was shot and killed only yesterday by an Israeli sniper in the WEST BANK, look like a "combattant" to you??




This kid is one of hundreds shot by Israeli snipers only the last year, these people also regularly shoot toddlers, and you have the gall to defend these disgusting savages and claim I am gaslighting.





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Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

AunBear89 said:

Yay! This means the Russians can kill even more innocent people. But you guys are against the war, right. This cheerleading post from Beto is just for information, right? Your not trying to flex and show how smart the team you support is and how stupid the other side is?


Make sure you find some gory pictures of the "targets" (or, "civilians") mangled beyond recognition! That's always good for moral and whipping up the masses - pictures of the dead filthy enemies.

The percentage of civilian deaths in this war is around 1%-2%. Contrast with Israel's war on Palestine where it's well above 90%.

The military deaths in Ukraine are still highly unfortunate, because at this stage most of their soldiers don't want to be there, they have been forcefully conscripted by the Kiev regime, which is determined to carry out NATO's war To The Last Ukrainian.
90%? LMAO. You just make up crap. Not even Hamas has claimed this.


60% of the Gazans bombed to death were women, children and men over 65. You get to 90% by assuming that 1 in 4 men under 65 killed were combattants, a reasonable number given the indiscriminate nature and massive scale of the carpet bombing, pulverizing an area the size of Manhattan with the equivalent of 4 Hiroshima bombs.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/10/gaza-death-toll-40-higher-than-official-number-lancet-study-finds

You're the guy that claimed that Israel did not carpet bomb Gaza, that that one hospital was bombed because it was a secret Hamas base with a tunnel network and so forth. In other words, you have zero credibility on that subject.
Your assumptions are not reasonable, particularly when "children' and men over 65 are often combatants. Beyond that, your assumption of 1-4 is wrong (not even Hamas has claimed that) and it is just a lie to claim that carpet bombing took place.

And it has been proven that Hamas was using hospitals for military purposes. Again, that is really beyond dispute and you are just gaslighting.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/02/12/world/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-israel-hamas.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html

Is it really your position that Hamas does not use civilians as human shields?

Does this child, who was shot and killed only yesterday by an Israeli sniper in the WEST BANK, look like a "combattant" to you??




This kid is one of hundreds shot by Israeli snipers only the last year, these people also regularly shoot toddlers, and you have the gall to defend these disgusting savages and claim I am gaslighting.






There is no legitimate news source confirming who killed the child, whose name is apparently Saddam Hussein Iyad Rajab (which tells you something about Palestinian culture and values). Just a claim that you repeat because it supports your specious narrative.

Meanwhile, you say nothing about this.



Hamas starved its hostages. Those are the only people in Gaza that suffered actual starvation. Their captors certainly had plenty of food. Those are the people you're defending.
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Would Tel Aviv like to be leveled? When is enough, enough?
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movielover said:

Would Tel Aviv like to be leveled? When is enough, enough?
No - Israel would not want Tel Aviv leveled. I think that explains why it has not started a war with the US, Russia, China, or other countries that could easily do that.

It also explains why Israel has invested billions of dollars in protecting its cities and civilians from attacks from hostile countries (Iron Dome) and sought to make peace with its neighbors (Abraham accords). Israeli leaders could have spent that money building tunnels to hide in (and to corruptly enrich themselves), but for some reason, they chose not to sacrifice (and hide under) their civilians. Imagine that?

Gaza has been leveled because of Hamas. Full stop. Hamas openly brags that it wants its people to die (and cities destroyed) because they think it serves their maniacal interest. They believe that, in part, because they know there will be people like you who blame Israel for doing what any other country would do when attacked.
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BearGoggles said:

movielover said:

Would Tel Aviv like to be leveled? When is enough, enough?
No - Israel would not want Tel Aviv leveled. I think that explains why it has not started a war with the US, Russia, China, or other countries that could easily do that.

It also explains why Israel has invested billions of dollars in protecting its cities and civilians from attacks from hostile countries (Iron Dome) and sought to make peace with its neighbors (Abraham accords). Israeli leaders could have spent that money building tunnels to hide in (and to corruptly enrich themselves), but for some reason, they chose not to sacrifice (and hide under) their civilians. Imagine that?

Gaza has been leveled because of Hamas. Full stop. Hamas openly brags that it wants its people to die (and cities destroyed) because they think it serves their maniacal interest. They believe that, in part, because they know there will be people like you who blame Israel for doing what any other country would do when attacked.

And that is why Israel has propped up Hamas.

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I don't want children and civilians carpet bombed, not Ethiopian children, Eskimo children, Chilean children.
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What about Neo-Conservative Imperialism?

Whose War? - The American Conservative


https://www.theamericanconservative.com/whose-war/

*No one is clean. Liberal Imperialists and Neoconservatism are different sides of the same coin.
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movielover said:

I don't want children and civilians carpet bombed, not Ethiopian children, Eskimo children, Chilean children.
How very idealistic of you.

How would you propose Israel wage and win a war it did not start against an opponent that took hostages, does not wear a uniform and embeds with civilians?

Note: It is not a valid answer to say that Israel cannot wage a war or that it must pursue tactics that will not allow it to win. Israel is not required to surrender.

What are the alternatives? Be specific.

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1. Don't mass bomb the tunnels and buildings, making everything unrecognizable and giving Hamas limitless places to hide
2. Send in Special Ops

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