The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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Is Trump going to remove the bodies of dead Russian soldiers before he harvests the minerals buried underneath them? If yes, perhaps Putin will assist in the removal effort.
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Anarchistbear said:



You can't make this up

Half the sh1*thole countries abstained from voting. It's an outrage.
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I have to give Trump credit. Usually war reparations are paid by the loser not your ally. This is a new precedent of warfare
movielover
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Security Council voted w us 10-0, w 5 Euros abstaining.
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bearister said:

Is Trump going to remove the bodies of dead Russian soldiers before he harvests the minerals buried underneath them? If yes, perhaps Putin will assist in the removal effort.

The remaining Ukraine Azov Nazis will eventually have to bury them elsewhere.
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The Kiev Independent

"Trump told reporters later on Feb. 25 that Zelensky will visit the White House for a signing ceremony on Feb. 28.

"The final version of the agreement, dated Feb. 24, establishes a fund to which Ukraine will contribute 50% of proceeds from the "future monetization" of state-owned mineral resources, including oil, gas, and related logistics. The fund will invest in projects within Ukraine."

https://kyivindependent.com/breaking-kyiv-washington-reach-agreement-on-minerals-deal/
movielover
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Jacked up. So much for freedom of thought.

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movielover said:

Ukraine was part of Russia in the 18th century, and only became independent in 1991. Eastern Ukraine is culturally Russian.

Maybe next time don't attack your own citizens, and don't listen to Victoria Nuland, Boris Johnson and the C-A. FAFO. To the victors go the spoils.

Colonel McGregor claims Russia has two large military units, one near Kiev, ready to go, and Ukraine has no way of stopping them.
Are you really still quoting MacGregor? He has been provably wrong over and over again. Why do you still give him any credence?




In 2022 he claimed the Ukraine was essentially defeated.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-putin-wing-ex-colonel-douglas-macgregor-has-said-about-ukraine-war-1689802
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movielover said:

A few possible new items.

Colonel Douglass McGregor alleges:

- Zelensky is paid $11 Million a month; Z may allege some goes to his political and military leaders
- Russia has a large military unit sitting outside Kiev, and a second large unit elsewhere - "both ready to go, and Ukraine can't stop them"
- claims the Bank of England is on shaky ground
- asserts we could have a war with the cartels / Mexico ... and that the cartels run Mexico

President Trump recently alleged there are 1.5 Million dead from the Ukraine - Russia War. If we take that as a reasonable number, given the overwhelming artillery from Russia and coordinated use of drones (spotting), here are two estimates.

Ukraine - 1 million dead, Russia 500,000 dead
Ukraine - 1.2 million dead, Russia 300,000 dead

I think #2 is more reasonable, unless McGregor has been paid off for three years.
His name is MACGREGOR and he's been HORRIBLE at his predictions.
Just ask Tucker Carlson from September of 2022

Tucker Carlson's Ukraine War Expert Totally Debunked
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BearGoggles said:

movielover said:

Ukraine was part of Russia in the 18th century, and only became independent in 1991. Eastern Ukraine is culturally Russian.

Maybe next time don't attack your own citizens, and don't listen to Victoria Nuland, Boris Johnson and the C-A. FAFO. To the victors go the spoils.

Colonel McGregor claims Russia has two large military units, one near Kiev, ready to go, and Ukraine has no way of stopping them.
Are you really still quoting MacGregor? He has been provably wrong over and over again. Why do you still give him any credence?




In 2022 he claimed the Ukraine was essentially defeated.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-putin-wing-ex-colonel-douglas-macgregor-has-said-about-ukraine-war-1689802

And he was right, while the MSM was lying about Ukraine's chances and going on about how Russia was militarily inept.

To this day, the MSM is still gaslighting on items like North Koreans being used on a large scale in Kursk and elsewhere, on the scale of Ukrainian casualties (at the very least 750,000 KIAs and around twice as much in wounded in action, including over 100,000 amputees.

Macgregor was one of the rare military analysts who got it right, due to his hands-on military expertise, his understanding of Russian tactics and his access to inside info through his NATO contacts.
movielover
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They defeated Ukraine and NATO / USA.

Russia allegedly has a large military force near Kiev which wouldn't be there if Ukraine had any capability at all. It seems the one item they have left with some success are drones.
movielover
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BTW, where are the war correspondents on the ground?

"Russian forces launched 177 drones at Ukraine overnight, targeting Kharkiv, Sumy, Poltava, Dnipropetrovsk, Cherkasy, Chernihiv, Kirovohrad, Kherson, Mykolaiv, and Kyiv oblasts."

https://kyivindependent.com/russian-drone-attack-on-kyiv-oblast-kills-journalist-surgeon-in-their-home/

North Korea gaining military experience in Ukraine, improving its missiles' accuracy, Budanov says

https://kyivindependent.com/north-korea-gaining-military-experience-in-ukraine-improving-its-missiles-accuracy-budanov-says/

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Great thread to share with someone who still accepts the narrative but has eyes to see and ears to hear.

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BearGoggles said:

movielover said:

Ukraine was part of Russia in the 18th century, and only became independent in 1991. Eastern Ukraine is culturally Russian.

Maybe next time don't attack your own citizens, and don't listen to Victoria Nuland, Boris Johnson and the C-A. FAFO. To the victors go the spoils.

Colonel McGregor claims Russia has two large military units, one near Kiev, ready to go, and Ukraine has no way of stopping them.
Are you really still quoting MacGregor? He has been provably wrong over and over again. Why do you still give him any credence?




In 2022 he claimed the Ukraine was essentially defeated.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-putin-wing-ex-colonel-douglas-macgregor-has-said-about-ukraine-war-1689802

Could this be a case of two different people? The pundit that movielover cites is "Douglass McGregor". Different spelling on both the first name and last name.
movielover
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Or the church could temporarily allow bigamy.

bearister
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"Zelensky is on the same path as Mussolini."

So is Trump.

The working class will not be pleased when they figure out the goal of this Administration is whatever Dark MAGA says it is and it ain't about them. Even Trump University enrollees eventually figured out they'd been had.




RFK Jr hasn't been filled with this much self loathing since his late wife found his balling scorecard journal
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Ukraine will never join NATO.

movielover
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MIC big mad.



Why? They want a slice of the pie. What do they bring, brie?

movielover
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Peace > War.

Business > War.
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Victoria Nuland, Senior Advisor.
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https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/nato-admits-casus-belli-was-nato?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

Reasonable people are sharing a Sept. 2023 video of NATO secretary Jens Stoltenberg telling EU Parliament:
Quote:

In the autumn of 2021, Russia actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what they sent us, and that was a precondition for not invading Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.
In other words, the war in Ukraine could have been averted if NATO had agreed to Russia's perfectly understandable request to refrain from admitting Ukraine to NATO.
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Trump called Zelensky a DICTATOR.
Now he can't remember saying it.

And you guys thought Sleepy Joe was bad???
lol

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THIS doesnt look or sound good.





US President Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky openly argued in the White House on Friday as they clashed on the need for compromising with what the Ukrainian president called Russia's "killer" leader.
Trump berated Zelensky as they sat in the Oval Office, telling him to be more "thankful" and saying, "You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel."

And he told the Ukrainian president that he either "make a deal" with Russia "or we're out."

US Vice President JD Vance, sitting nearby, also attacked Zelensky, calling him "disrespectful."
Zelensky appeared to try to speak but was cut off.

The extraordinary outburst came after Trump said Ukraine will have to make "compromises" in a truce with Russia, which launched a full-scale invasion of its neighbor three years ago.

"You can't do any deals without compromises. So certainly he's going to have to make some compromises, but hopefully they won't be as big as some people think," Trump said.

But showing Trump pictures of war atrocities and referring to President Vladimir Putin, Zelensky said there should be "no compromises with a killer on our territory."

"Crazy Russians," he said, deported Ukrainian children and committed war crimes during their three-year invasion of his country.

Trump lashed out at Zelensky, who he said was "not acting at all thankful" and not "nice."

Trump, Zelensky row in Oval Office after dispute on compromise with Russia

BearNIt
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DiabloWags said:

THIS doesnt look or sound good.





US President Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky openly argued in the White House on Friday as they clashed on the need for compromising with what the Ukrainian president called Russia's "killer" leader.
Trump berated Zelensky as they sat in the Oval Office, telling him to be more "thankful" and saying, "You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel."

And he told the Ukrainian president that he either "make a deal" with Russia "or we're out."

US Vice President JD Vance, sitting nearby, also attacked Zelensky, calling him "disrespectful."
Zelensky appeared to try to speak but was cut off.

The extraordinary outburst came after Trump said Ukraine will have to make "compromises" in a truce with Russia, which launched a full-scale invasion of its neighbor three years ago.

"You can't do any deals without compromises. So certainly he's going to have to make some compromises, but hopefully they won't be as big as some people think," Trump said.

But showing Trump pictures of war atrocities and referring to President Vladimir Putin, Zelensky said there should be "no compromises with a killer on our territory."

"Crazy Russians," he said, deported Ukrainian children and committed war crimes during their three-year invasion of his country.

Trump lashed out at Zelensky, who he said was "not acting at all thankful" and not "nice."

Trump, Zelensky row in Oval Office after dispute on compromise

This administration is a clown show with Col. Bone spur and his foot stool Vance acting like idiots. I have never seen such a disaster as the one that just occurred. Since when does American back a country that has kidnapped thousands of children and committed untold war atrocities. This is shameful and embarrassing, and will be remembered by every so called ally that we have or had and we will only have ourselves to blame.l


An ally is a partner, a person who has your back. Whether on the playing field or in a courtroom, an ally works alongside you to reach shared goals. They won't leave or let you down. They're committed
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Wow!!!!!!!! What a **** Show, Trump and Vance looked absolutely crazy. Putin is jumping for joy. We ought to be ashamed of ourselves. How long before China goes into Taiwan? We will never again be regarded as a trusted ally.

An ally is a partner, a person who has your back. Whether on the playing field or in a courtroom, an ally works alongside you to reach shared goals. They won't leave or let you down. They're committed


Does Col Bone Spur fit this definition?
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Did the EU want this? And he threatens us?
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movielover
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Zelensky looked amped up on something. There is no dishonor in trying to settle a devastating war.



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Zelenskyy is dead- figuratively and maybe literally. When the Russians, Americans and Azov Brigade pursue, you better have an escape plan.

Didn't see the interview but this sounds epically dumb. You always approach Trump on your knees
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Will Putin now take Kiev or Odessa?
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movielover said:




This is really hard to watch. While I somewhat agree with Trump, he really needs to let Zelensky speak instead of rambling on about who has the cards. Say it once or twice, don't continuously repeat it.

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movielover said:

Peace > War.

Business > War.
Security Guarantees > War
movielover
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Agreed, but the Zelensky threatens the US in the Oval Office?
Cal88
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Zelensky is an actor without political experience and reportedly a cokehead. I've never seen such a diplomatic flameout, the guy destroyed his case.

His life is not in danger, the two groups he needs to worry about the most are the Azov Banderists and the Brits, with the SAS allegedly operating his close security service. He has tried to do their bidding at the White House today but failed spectacularly.

JD Vance has been reading this thread, he is getting real updates on the Ukraine war.
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