MSM, Social media, Academia, Joe Biden and the late-night comics to the American people......"Oh, remember when we said the Hunter laptop story was Russian propaganda"?????sorry....Looks .like it was his laptop all along and everything in it was true including the part detailing Joes' corrupt deals with China and Ukraine." We are so sorry....probably cost Trump the election and damaged our reputation forever, but, Hey, we all make mistakes, right?????So shut up and pretend this did not happen. We promise...we promise never to lie to you again....Trump collusion hoax?????Hey, we lied about that too!!!!So sue me!!!!
Do you really think the American people are that stupid????
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Earth to helltopay: Yes, they lied to us. They all do. So do your beloved right wing pundits. So does Donald Trump, everyone in the Trump family, Ron DeSantis, Marjorie Taylor Greene and all the GOP politicians. So do the Democrats. They all lie to us. Every. Single. One. Take everything with a grain or a few boulders of salt.helltopay1 said:
MSM, Social media, Academia, Joe Biden and the late-night comics to the American people......"Oh, remember when we said the Hunter laptop story was Russian propaganda"?????sorry....Looks .like it was his laptop all along and everything in it was true including the part detailing Joes' corrupt deals with China and Ukraine." We are so sorry....probably cost Trump the election and damaged our reputation forever, but, Hey, we all make mistakes, right?????So shut up and pretend this did not happen. We promise...we promise never to lie to you again....Trump collusion hoax?????Hey, we lied about that too!!!!So sue me!!!!
Trust no one.
Someone is 84 years old and acts like they just fell off the turnip truck. Will wonders ever cease!
If Trump didn't collude with Russia why did he obstruct the investigation?helltopay1 said:
MSM, Social media, Academia, Joe Biden and the late-night comics to the American people......"Oh, remember when we said the Hunter laptop story was Russian propaganda"?????sorry....Looks .like it was his laptop all along and everything in it was true including the part detailing Joes' corrupt deals with China and Ukraine." We are so sorry....probably cost Trump the election and damaged our reputation forever, but, Hey, we all make mistakes, right?????So shut up and pretend this did not happen. We promise...we promise never to lie to you again....Trump collusion hoax?????Hey, we lied about that too!!!!So sue me!!!!
Why didn't Trump place his assets in a blind trust when he became president?
What business deals did Jared do during his time in the Trump administration?
Why did Kushner meet with the Saudis about refinancing 666 Fifth Avenue on the eve of the 2016 election and then continue to meet privately with MBS for the entirety of the Trump administration and cover for him when he murdered an American journalist and chopped him up with bone saws?
Why did Kushner negotiate with Chinese financiers for 666 Fifth Avenue?
Why did Kushner meet with Qataris in 2017 to finance 666 Fifth Avenue? Did their rejection of him lead to the Trump blockade of Qatar? Why did Qatar ultimately bail Kushner out of his debt burden in 2018?
Why did Kushner lose his security clearance? Why did Trump restore it?
Why did Ivanka receive all those Chinese trademarks after Trump's election?
Why are the Trumps barred from operating charities?
Why did Trump settle a fraud lawsuit for Trump U?
Why did Eric Trump claim that they got all the money they needed from Russia?
Why did Trump get rid of his translator in order to meet with Putin privately in Helsinki?
Why did Trump hold back military aid to Ukraine?
Why is is that Trump accuses every member of his administration of wrongdoing and yet claim that he only hires the best?
Why have so many of Trump's associates committed felonies and gone to jail (or been pardoned by him)?
Why does his family plead the 5th so often if they've done nothing wrong?
Why don't you care about any of this while you pretend to care about Hunter Biden?
Hey, I'm just asking questions here.
I think we all know the answer and it's not that everyone else is stupid.
Trump promised us 4 to 5% GDP.
It never happened.
He lied.
It never happened.
He lied.
helltopay1 said:
Do you really think the American people are that stupid????!
Yes.
Yeah, those stupid Americans support energy independence (which Biden gave away day one shutting down all drilling on federal lands as well as the keystone pipeline), low unemployment (especially record low black and latino unemployment), low rates, low inflation and much stricter border enforcement, even if it's at the direction of a narcissist with mean tweets that drive you all crazy.
bearlyamazing said:
Yeah, those stupid Americans support energy independence (which Biden gave away day one shutting down all drilling on federal lands as well as the keystone pipeline), low unemployment (especially record low black and latino unemployment), low rates, low inflation and much stricter border enforcement, even if it's at the direction of a narcissist with mean tweets that drive you all crazy.
You should seriously consider fact checking Fox News, at least occasionally.
New Data: Biden's First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Trump's By 34% - Center for Biological Diversity
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/new-data-biden-slays-trumps-first-year-drilling-permitting-by-34-2022-01-21/
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
LOL, so you are admitting here that you are one of those stupid Americans?bearlyamazing said:
Yeah, those stupid Americans ....
Talk about self indictment.
Do yourself a favor - don't go talking politics at cocktail parties. More people will think your stupid when you leave than when you arrived.
PS: you're MAGA talking points are weak fake FoxNews - been debunked. But you wouldn't know that, would you?
Only in your liberal dreamworld bubble.concordtom said:
PS: you're MAGA talking points are weak fake FoxNews - been debunked. But you wouldn't know that, would you?
Debunked? LMAO. Dubunked like the Biden laptop and Steele dossier debunked. The left has rendered that term a laughable meme.
I'm quickly reminded why I don't waste much time here anymore. It's a cesspit of ignorance, with you at the head of the dunce table.
Good.bearlyamazing said:Only in your liberal dreamworld bubble.concordtom said:
PS: you're MAGA talking points are weak fake FoxNews - been debunked. But you wouldn't know that, would you?
Debunked? LMAO. Dubunked like the Biden laptop and Steele dossier debunked. The left has rendered that term a laughable meme.
I'm quickly reminded why I don't waste much time here anymore. It's a cesspit of ignorance, with you at the head of the dunce table.
Change the subject.
Good.
Leave.
bearlyamazing said:
Yeah, those stupid Americans support energy independence (which Biden gave away day one shutting down all drilling on federal lands as well as the keystone pipeline), low unemployment (especially record low black and latino unemployment), low rates, low inflation and much stricter border enforcement, even if it's at the direction of a narcissist with mean tweets that drive you all crazy.
You have no idea what youre talking about.
You really dont.
Please tell me you didnt go to CAL.
bearlyamazing said:
Yeah, those stupid Americans support energy independence (which Biden gave away day one shutting down all drilling on federal lands as well as the keystone pipeline), low unemployment (especially record low black and latino unemployment), low rates, low inflation and much stricter border enforcement, even if it's at the direction of a narcissist with mean tweets that drive you all crazy.
How many of those things were true in January 2021? How many of those things was Trump responsible for?
If you aren't one of the stupid Americans, please also explain to us precisely how the Keystone pipeline would result in lower gas prices at the pump or our energy independence?
If you aren't one of the stupid Americans, please also explain how Trump would have stopped inflation?
Finally, weren't you the guy who said that Durham was going to have Biden removed from office by June 2021? Was that something a smart American would think?
bearlyamazing said:Only in your liberal dreamworld bubble.concordtom said:
PS: you're MAGA talking points are weak fake FoxNews - been debunked. But you wouldn't know that, would you?
Debunked? LMAO. Dubunked like the Biden laptop and Steele dossier debunked. The left has rendered that term a laughable meme.
I'm quickly reminded why I don't waste much time here anymore. It's a cesspit of ignorance, with you at the head of the dunce table.
Hey, nobody wants you to feel like you have to waste your valuable time . . .
bearlyamazing said:
Yeah, those stupid Americans support energy independence (which Biden gave away day one shutting down all drilling on federal lands as well as the keystone pipeline), low unemployment (especially record low black and latino unemployment), low rates, low inflation and much stricter border enforcement, even if it's at the direction of a narcissist with mean tweets that drive you all crazy.
Its shocking how badly misinformed you are.
For starters, the Keystone Pipeline is OPEN.
Duh.
bearlyamazing said:
Yeah, those stupid Americans support energy independence (which Biden gave away day one shutting down all drilling on federal lands as well as the keystone pipeline), low unemployment (especially record low black and latino unemployment), low rates, low inflation and much stricter border enforcement, even if it's at the direction of a narcissist with mean tweets that drive you all crazy.
Huh?
The Biden Administration put 80 million acres of the Gulf of Mexico up for auction last November.
The 80 million acres on sale is expected to produce around 1.1 billion barrels of oil and 4.2 trillion cubic feet of natural gas over the next 50 years. - - - It's was the LARGEST FEDERAL OFFSHORE AUCTION IN HISTORY.
You arent the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
bearlyamazing said:
Yeah, those stupid Americans support energy independence (which Biden gave away day one shutting down all drilling on federal lands as well as the keystone pipeline), low unemployment (especially record low black and latino unemployment), low rates, low inflation and much stricter border enforcement, even if it's at the direction of a narcissist with mean tweets that drive you all crazy.
Did it ever occur to you that that $2.2 Trillion Spending Bill (CARES Act) that Trump bragged about signing into law may have had something to do with inflation . . . during a time of supply chain issues?
"Phase 4 (canceled)
The proposed Keystone XL pipeline would start from the same area in Alberta, Canada, as the Phase 1 pipeline.[28] The Canadian section would consist of 526 kilometres (327 mi) of new pipeline.[41] It would enter the United States at Morgan, Montana, and travel through Baker, Montana, where American-produced oil would be added to the pipeline; then it would travel through South Dakota and Nebraska, where it would join the existing Keystone pipelines at Steele City, Nebraska.[8] This phase generated the greatest controversy because of its routing over the Sandhills in Nebraska.[105][106][107]
In 2015, President Barack Obama blocked the project, causing TC Energy to instigate a US $15 billion lawsuit under NAFTA.[108]
On January 24, 2017, President Donald Trump took action intended to permit the pipeline's completion, whereupon TC Energy suspended their NAFTA Chapter 11 action.[108]
On January 18, 2018, TransCanada announced they had secured commitments to ship 500,000 barrels (79,000 m3) per day for 20 years.[109]
On January 20, 2021, President Joe Biden revoked the permit for the pipeline on his first day in office.[110] On June 9, 2021, the project was abandoned by TC Energy.[22][23]"
You all just love talking past each other. It doesn't make you smarter.
The proposed Keystone XL pipeline would start from the same area in Alberta, Canada, as the Phase 1 pipeline.[28] The Canadian section would consist of 526 kilometres (327 mi) of new pipeline.[41] It would enter the United States at Morgan, Montana, and travel through Baker, Montana, where American-produced oil would be added to the pipeline; then it would travel through South Dakota and Nebraska, where it would join the existing Keystone pipelines at Steele City, Nebraska.[8] This phase generated the greatest controversy because of its routing over the Sandhills in Nebraska.[105][106][107]
In 2015, President Barack Obama blocked the project, causing TC Energy to instigate a US $15 billion lawsuit under NAFTA.[108]
On January 24, 2017, President Donald Trump took action intended to permit the pipeline's completion, whereupon TC Energy suspended their NAFTA Chapter 11 action.[108]
On January 18, 2018, TransCanada announced they had secured commitments to ship 500,000 barrels (79,000 m3) per day for 20 years.[109]
On January 20, 2021, President Joe Biden revoked the permit for the pipeline on his first day in office.[110] On June 9, 2021, the project was abandoned by TC Energy.[22][23]"
You all just love talking past each other. It doesn't make you smarter.
Yeah, you're pretty IGNORANT alright.bearlyamazing said:
I'm quickly reminded why I don't waste much time here anymore. It's a cesspit of ignorance, with you at the head of the dunce table.
Cant imagine what your degree was in at Cal.
It certainly had nothing to do with Economics or any ability to critically think.
The first 3 phases of the Keystone Pipeline are OPEN and have been in service.oski003 said:
You all just love talking past each other. It doesn't make you smarter.
Keystone XL was terminated by Biden because of environmental issues in Nebraska.
Canadian tar sand crude is very much different than conventional crude oil.
It has to be heated up in order to travel through a pipeline, which puts the risk at causing a leak at 2.5 to 3X that of conventional oil. It's refining yield isnt at a 1:1 rate as conventional oil given its bitumen properties.
But it still gets transported into the United States via rail-car, to either be refined or EXPORTED out of the U.S.
But Trumpanzees are too dumb to know this.
They act like the cancellation of Keystone XL actually prevented Canadian Tar Sand oil from getting into the U.S.
LOL!
DiabloWags said:The first 3 phases of the Keystone Pipeline are OPEN and have been in service.oski003 said:
You all just love talking past each other. It doesn't make you smarter.
Keystone XL was terminated by Biden because of environmental issues in Nebraska.
Canadian tar sand crude is very much different than conventional crude oil.
It has to be heated up in order to travel through a pipeline, which puts the risk at causing a leak at 2.5 to 3X that of conventional oil. It also doesnt get refined at a 1:1 rate as conventional oil given its bitumen properties.
But it still gets transported into the United States via rail-car, to either be refined or EXPORTED out of the U.S.
My quote starts with Phase 4. Duh.
I am also pretty sure everyone knows there are other ways to transport oil besides pipelines. Duh.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Yes, they lied to us.
Trust no one.
Hey @AdamSchiff, any update on your bold assertion, in October 2020, that the Hunter Biden laptop story is really just a “smear” that comes “from the Kremlin?” pic.twitter.com/gcgC6qTB9E https://t.co/i6SlSpEYLD
— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) March 17, 2022
Especially, Adam Schiff.
I've noticed that you're really good at CUT AND PASTE.oski003 said:
My quote starts with Phase 4. Duh.
I am also pretty sure everyone knows there are other ways to transport oil besides pipelines. Duh.
Unit2Sucks said:If Trump didn't collude with Russia why did he obstruct the investigation?helltopay1 said:
MSM, Social media, Academia, Joe Biden and the late-night comics to the American people......"Oh, remember when we said the Hunter laptop story was Russian propaganda"?????sorry....Looks .like it was his laptop all along and everything in it was true including the part detailing Joes' corrupt deals with China and Ukraine." We are so sorry....probably cost Trump the election and damaged our reputation forever, but, Hey, we all make mistakes, right?????So shut up and pretend this did not happen. We promise...we promise never to lie to you again....Trump collusion hoax?????Hey, we lied about that too!!!!So sue me!!!!
Why didn't Trump place his assets in a blind trust when he became president?
What business deals did Jared do during his time in the Trump administration?
Why did Kushner meet with the Saudis about refinancing 666 Fifth Avenue on the eve of the 2016 election and then continue to meet privately with MBS for the entirety of the Trump administration and cover for him when he murdered an American journalist and chopped him up with bone saws?
Why did Kushner negotiate with Chinese financiers for 666 Fifth Avenue?
Why did Kushner meet with Qataris in 2017 to finance 666 Fifth Avenue? Did their rejection of him lead to the Trump blockade of Qatar? Why did Qatar ultimately bail Kushner out of his debt burden in 2018?
Why did Kushner lose his security clearance? Why did Trump restore it?
Why did Ivanka receive all those Chinese trademarks after Trump's election?
Why are the Trumps barred from operating charities?
Why did Trump settle a fraud lawsuit for Trump U?
Why did Eric Trump claim that they got all the money they needed from Russia?
Why did Trump get rid of his translator in order to meet with Putin privately in Helsinki?
Why did Trump hold back military aid to Ukraine?
Why is is that Trump accuses every member of his administration of wrongdoing and yet claim that he only hires the best?
Why have so many of Trump's associates committed felonies and gone to jail (or been pardoned by him)?
Why does his family plead the 5th so often if they've done nothing wrong?
Why don't you care about any of this while you pretend to care about Hunter Biden?
Hey, I'm just asking questions here.
I think we all know the answer and it's not that everyone else is stupid.
Bro, there's a Russia collusion megathread on this site that has all your answers and then some. Blue Anon is a well that never runs dry.
DiabloWags said:I've noticed that you're really good at CUT AND PASTE.oski003 said:
My quote starts with Phase 4. Duh.
I am also pretty sure everyone knows there are other ways to transport oil besides pipelines. Duh.
Duh.
Hey BA, when was Biden supposed to have been removed from office again? I know you cited a date before.bearlyamazing said:Only in your liberal dreamworld bubble.concordtom said:
PS: you're MAGA talking points are weak fake FoxNews - been debunked. But you wouldn't know that, would you?
Debunked? LMAO. Dubunked like the Biden laptop and Steele dossier debunked. The left has rendered that term a laughable meme.
I'm quickly reminded why I don't waste much time here anymore. It's a cesspit of ignorance, with you at the head of the dunce table.
DiabloWags said:
Trump promised us 4 to 5% GDP.
It never happened.
He lied.
This was what you were butthurt over all this time?
oski003 said:DiabloWags said:The first 3 phases of the Keystone Pipeline are OPEN and have been in service.oski003 said:
You all just love talking past each other. It doesn't make you smarter.
Keystone XL was terminated by Biden because of environmental issues in Nebraska.
Canadian tar sand crude is very much different than conventional crude oil.
It has to be heated up in order to travel through a pipeline, which puts the risk at causing a leak at 2.5 to 3X that of conventional oil. It also doesnt get refined at a 1:1 rate as conventional oil given its bitumen properties.
But it still gets transported into the United States via rail-car, to either be refined or EXPORTED out of the U.S.
My quote starts with Phase 4. Duh.
I am also pretty sure everyone knows there are other ways to transport oil besides pipelines. Duh.
How much more oil would Phase 4 have brought to the global market? How would Phase 4 have impacted our energy independence? How would Phase 4 have lowered the price we pay at the gas pump?
Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:DiabloWags said:The first 3 phases of the Keystone Pipeline are OPEN and have been in service.oski003 said:
You all just love talking past each other. It doesn't make you smarter.
Keystone XL was terminated by Biden because of environmental issues in Nebraska.
Canadian tar sand crude is very much different than conventional crude oil.
It has to be heated up in order to travel through a pipeline, which puts the risk at causing a leak at 2.5 to 3X that of conventional oil. It also doesnt get refined at a 1:1 rate as conventional oil given its bitumen properties.
But it still gets transported into the United States via rail-car, to either be refined or EXPORTED out of the U.S.
My quote starts with Phase 4. Duh.
I am also pretty sure everyone knows there are other ways to transport oil besides pipelines. Duh.
How much more oil would Phase 4 have brought to the global market? How would Phase 4 have impacted our energy independence? How would Phase 4 have lowered the price we pay at the gas pump?
Honestly, I don't know because there a ton of factors going into the pricing. There is no magic fix.
Stuff like this doesn't help...
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/santa-barbara-county-planning-commission-rejects-exxonmobils-plan-to-restart-offshore-platforms-truck-oil-2021-09-30/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7.com/amp/santa-barbara-county-oil-drilling-exxonmobil/11635705/
oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:DiabloWags said:The first 3 phases of the Keystone Pipeline are OPEN and have been in service.oski003 said:
You all just love talking past each other. It doesn't make you smarter.
Keystone XL was terminated by Biden because of environmental issues in Nebraska.
Canadian tar sand crude is very much different than conventional crude oil.
It has to be heated up in order to travel through a pipeline, which puts the risk at causing a leak at 2.5 to 3X that of conventional oil. It also doesnt get refined at a 1:1 rate as conventional oil given its bitumen properties.
But it still gets transported into the United States via rail-car, to either be refined or EXPORTED out of the U.S.
My quote starts with Phase 4. Duh.
I am also pretty sure everyone knows there are other ways to transport oil besides pipelines. Duh.
How much more oil would Phase 4 have brought to the global market? How would Phase 4 have impacted our energy independence? How would Phase 4 have lowered the price we pay at the gas pump?
Honestly, I don't know because there a ton of factors going into the pricing. There is no magic fix.
Stuff like this doesn't help...
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/santa-barbara-county-planning-commission-rejects-exxonmobils-plan-to-restart-offshore-platforms-truck-oil-2021-09-30/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7.com/amp/santa-barbara-county-oil-drilling-exxonmobil/11635705/
Doesn't help how? There is a global market for oil. It's nice to say we don't rely on foreign oil but unless we prohibit US oil from being exported, the price we pay at the pump will ALWAYS be controlled by OPEC.
If you read the article I posted earlier or do some research on the global oil markets you will see what what Diablo and I are saying makes sense. If we produce "too much" oil for domestic use, it will not drive down prices substantially but will result in greater exports.
Don't get me wrong, there may be some benefit to that for national security (in the event of an actual war, embargo, etc) and our economy (small GDP boost from producing more oil) but it's not the path to cheap gas that many are simplistically arguing. All of the oil that would have come with phase 4 of Keystone is making it to market, just through a different path. The reason our gas prices went up is because it became harder for Russian oil to get to market worldwide, not because of anything US specific.
You've fallen prey to Republican gaslighting (pun intended) but don't seem to understand how the market works. That's on you.
BearForce2 said:DiabloWags said:
Trump promised us 4 to 5% GDP.
It never happened.
He lied.
This was what you were butthurt over all this time?
Im not the Clown who posted over 300 times in the 3 days leading up to the Election. That was you brah.
How's the ruble treating you?
Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:DiabloWags said:The first 3 phases of the Keystone Pipeline are OPEN and have been in service.oski003 said:
You all just love talking past each other. It doesn't make you smarter.
Keystone XL was terminated by Biden because of environmental issues in Nebraska.
Canadian tar sand crude is very much different than conventional crude oil.
It has to be heated up in order to travel through a pipeline, which puts the risk at causing a leak at 2.5 to 3X that of conventional oil. It also doesnt get refined at a 1:1 rate as conventional oil given its bitumen properties.
But it still gets transported into the United States via rail-car, to either be refined or EXPORTED out of the U.S.
My quote starts with Phase 4. Duh.
I am also pretty sure everyone knows there are other ways to transport oil besides pipelines. Duh.
How much more oil would Phase 4 have brought to the global market? How would Phase 4 have impacted our energy independence? How would Phase 4 have lowered the price we pay at the gas pump?
Honestly, I don't know because there a ton of factors going into the pricing. There is no magic fix.
Stuff like this doesn't help...
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/santa-barbara-county-planning-commission-rejects-exxonmobils-plan-to-restart-offshore-platforms-truck-oil-2021-09-30/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7.com/amp/santa-barbara-county-oil-drilling-exxonmobil/11635705/
Doesn't help how? There is a global market for oil. It's nice to say we don't rely on foreign oil but unless we prohibit US oil from being exported, the price we pay at the pump will ALWAYS be controlled by OPEC.
If you read the article I posted earlier or do some research on the global oil markets you will see what what Diablo and I are saying makes sense. If we produce "too much" oil for domestic use, it will not drive down prices substantially but will result in greater exports.
Don't get me wrong, there may be some benefit to that for national security (in the event of an actual war, embargo, etc) and our economy (small GDP boost from producing more oil) but it's not the path to cheap gas that many are simplistically arguing. All of the oil that would have come with phase 4 of Keystone is making it to market, just through a different path. The reason our gas prices went up is because it became harder for Russian oil to get to market worldwide, not because of anything US specific.
You've fallen prey to Republican gaslighting (pun intended) but don't seem to understand how the market works. That's on you.
Wow, you certainly dubiously frame other people's arguments into black and white arguments to bolster whatever position you have. That's on you.
Regardless, there are many factors, but this is from EIA.
"What determines the cost of crude oil?
The cost of crude oil is the largest component of the retail price of gasoline, and the cost of crude oil as a share of the retail gasoline price varies over time and across regions of the country. Many factors affect crude oil prices; learn about seven major factors that influence crude oil prices in What Drives Crude Oil Prices? Increases in U.S. oil production in the past several years have helped reduce upward pressure on oil and gasoline prices."
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/gasoline/factors-affecting-gasoline-prices.php
I guess someone has never heard of OPEC+ and how they control 55% of global oil supply.
Anyone take Econ.1?
Anyone take Econ.1?
oski003 said:
Stuff like this doesn't help...
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/santa-barbara-county-planning-commission-rejects-exxonmobils-plan-to-restart-offshore-platforms-truck-oil-2021-09-30/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7.com/amp/santa-barbara-county-oil-drilling-exxonmobil/11635705/
This just goes to show how utterly IGNORANT you are.
The 3rd largest oil spill in U.S. waters was off the coast of SANTA BARBARA in 1969.
Duh.
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