Eastern Oregon Bear said:I posted a link yesterday.BearForce2 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:All I see is a paraphrased statement from some unnamed report. It's not even clear if it's the federal Dept. of Education or some state DOE. How can anyone verify that? It's just another of your unsubstantiated Twitter claims without any reference to source material. Given the past evidence of your social media bubble making up "alternate facts", I find it extremely unlikely that teachers have a higher rate of pedophile abuse than priests, let alone 100 times. If you're going to lie, at least make it believable.BearForce2 said:sycasey said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I have a nephew, married with a young child, that teaches 3rd grade. I am deeply offended by the suggestion that he chose this career because he's a pedophile.AunBear89 said:BearForce2 said:AunBear89 said:BearForce2 said:
Why do so many pedophiles take jobs as educators?
Because schools are where all their targets are.
Link or flagged.
Don't play dumb. By definition, schools are places with children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School
Wow. So you're saying teachers are pedos? I would like to see an actual link to a legitimate study or other statistics that back up your insinuation, rather than your dumb ass deflection about the definition of school.
I flagged that post as soon as I saw it. Ridiculous and offensive assertion to make without evidence.
(As far as I know, the rate of child sexual abuse among schoolteachers is below what it is among pastors and priests. And that says nothing about kids who are abused by their own family members, by far the most common source. Should we also say that people only have kids so they can abuse them?)According to the Dept. of Ed, public school teachers sexually abuse children at a scale more than 100 times greater than Catholic priests. Parents are concerned that predators—of any sexual orientation—could use classroom sexualization as a method of recruiting victims.
— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) March 23, 2022
I flagged your post for misinformation. How can you say there's no evidence that teachers aren't sexually assaulting children and that pastors and priests are abusing them at a higher rate?
Eastern, I know you've never posted a link here to save your life but you demand others (me) to do so. Why are you so triggered by my original statement?
https://go2tutors.com/teachers-more-likely-abuse-kids/
As for your link, it vaguely referenced a report from another link. I had to peel back a few more links before finding a 2004 US Department of Education literature review (not the same as a report). I didn't read all 156 pages, but I doubt you did too. I did see this disclaimer of the Department of Education's reservations about the literature review:
It is important to note some of the Department's reservations about the findings in the literature
review. Specifically, the author focuses in large measure on a broad set of inappropriate behaviors
designated as "sexual misconduct," rather than "sexual abuse," which is the term used in the
statute. Specifically, section 5414(a)(3) of the ESEA requires the Secretary of Education to
conduct "[a] study regarding the prevalence of sexual abuse in schools. . . ." (emphasis added)
The distinction between "sexual misconduct" and "sexual abuse" is significant in legal and other
terms. However, both are of concern to parents and the Department.
The author's use of the two words interchangeably throughout the report is potentially confusing
to the reader. Federal law gives separate and specific meaning to the words "sexual abuse," and
such words should not be confused with the broader, more general concept of "sexual
misconduct."
While I didn't read it all of the literature review, I did skim through the entire thing and saw nowhere that compared abuse rates between teachers and other professions.
Oh, here's your **** link to the report that should have been provided by you instead of linking a third hand mention from a blogger.
As for being triggered, I wouldn't go that far, but I do take offense when someone casts aspersions upon my family members without knowing anything about them. If you're claiming that teachers are over 100 times more likely to be pedophiles than priests, then you're saying my nephew is more likely to be a pedophile than not. Either that or you're claiming that all (or at least most) of the accused pedophile priests are innocent.
You've pretty much nailed the basis for the comparison:
A study that shows self-reported (so already a little dicey) incidents of sexual MISCONDUCT in public school to rates of reported sexual ABUSE among the clergy and claiming teachers abuse at 100x the rate. Only they're not comparing the same thing at all.
So yes, as usual Rufo is full of s***.
