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They need to get Thomas off the court before Biden's term. They know this. They will look for anything.

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Seriously, how do they even think this would happen? You're never getting enough Senate votes to remove him.

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You'd be surprised what you can accomplish when you own the american media and intelligence services.

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Powerful though they may be, I don't think they have the power to remove a Supreme Court justice.

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Hillary Clinton paid $1 million for a fake dossier to have Trump impeached with the help of the intelligence services and media shills.

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And they didn't have the votes in the Senate, just like they would not for Thomas. So?

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So...nothing. Minot is essentially an app that posts everything from Fox News to this forum.

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He's boycotted Fox ever since they called Arizona "early" for Biden.

lol

"When it comes to the suggestion that Thomas sexually harassed Anita Hill in the 1980s, there's nothing to litigate and no need to throw up your hands in confusion: He plainly did it and he plainly got away with it.

…. Three Hill friends -- Susan Hoerchner, Ellen Wells and John Carr -- testified under oath that she had told them about Thomas' conduct as it happened between 1981 and 1983. "Anita said that Clarence Thomas had repeatedly asked her out ... that he wouldn't seem to take 'no' for an answer,'' Hoerchner told senators. "The thing Anita told me that struck me particularly and that I remember almost verbatim was that Mr. Thomas had said to her, 'You know, if you had witnesses, you'd have a perfect case against me.'"

….. Upon learning of Hill's claims, another former Thomas employee, Angela Wright, who had worked under him as director of public affairs at the EEOC, wrote a column -- not meant for publication and intended only to show potential employers at a North Carolina newspaper that she could turn around a fast and topical piece -- outlining the inappropriate behavior he'd exhibited toward her. Somehow, Judiciary Committee investigators learned of the column, contacted Wright, and convinced her to sit for a phone interview, during which she detailed a pattern of harassing behavior, including an instance in which Thomas asked her what her bra size was.

….. In a letter to the committee, a former aide to Thomas at the EEOC, Sukari Hardnett, wrote that many black women at the agency felt they were "an object of special interest" to their boss. "If you were young, black, female and reasonably attractive," her letter read, "you knew full well you were being inspected and auditioned as a female.

….. The authors, after interviewing acquaintances as far back as his college years at Holy Cross, report that he often recounted sexually explicit films in lurid detail. Kaye Savage, a former colleague, reports that the walls of his bachelor apartment were covered with Playboy nude centerfolds. The owner of a video store near the EEOC said Thomas was a regular customer for pornographic movies."

… At his confirmation hearings, Thomas had specifically denied ever engaging in workplace discussions about pornography.

…. Thomas not only had the video equipment in his apartment, but he also habitually rented pornographic movies from Graffiti during the years Anita Hill worked for him.

….. McEwen said that Thomas had been "obsessed with porn" and "would talk about what he had seen in magazines and films, if there was something worth noting." She also said that Thomas would tell her about the women he worked with -- even commenting to her about one's bra size. "He was always actively watching the women he worked with to see if they could be potential partners," McEwen told the Post. "It was a hobby of his."

How we know Clarence Thomas did it | Salon.com


https://www.salon.com/2010/10/27/anita_hill_clarence_thomas/

* The details above can be reduced to one sentence: Clarence Thomas is a sexual harasser of women and an aficionado of pornography that perjured himself onto the SCOTUS all the while portraying himself as a victim.

* I also consider it karma that he ended up with a drunken cow Q believing wife and that he wears his self loathing on his face.

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They need to get Thomas off the court before Biden's term. They know this. They will look for anything.

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Seriously, how do they even think this would happen? You're never getting enough Senate votes to remove him.

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You'd be surprised what you can accomplish when you own the american media and intelligence services.

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Powerful though they may be, I don't think they have the power to remove a Supreme Court justice.

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Hillary Clinton paid $1 million for a fake dossier to have Trump impeached with the help of the intelligence services and media shills.

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And they didn't have the votes in the Senate, just like they would not for Thomas. So?

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So...nothing. Minot is essentially an app that posts everything from Fox News to this forum.

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He's boycotted Fox ever since they called Arizona "early" for Biden.

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(They probably did call it a little too early. Not that it made a difference to the results.)

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Further thoughts…

There are certain life decisions, callings, commitments that people make all the time.

Typically, at the wedding altar, a vow of monogamy is exchanged. And often, if tgat is broken, so is the marriage.

In Catholic priesthood, one marries the church. No sex. Breaking this meant expulsion.

Doctors and the Socratic Oath.

People enter willingly.

We do not hold elected officials or judges to sex commitments, and law is not written to do so.

But it seems to me that we should not be so timid as to hold the 9 Supreme Court Justices to a HIGH high standard. Moreover, they should be holding themselves to a high standard.

I have had the opportunity to cheat and fudge many financial rules. Front running trades in my prior profession would have been oh so easy, and lucrative.

A person needs to have personal integrity.
Too many politicians these days lack inspiring character. Judge Thomas and his wife do not. They want the advantages but not the restraints required of the position. And I'm not even talking about the vacations.

McConnell also lacks respectable character. How he held up Garland was despicable. That's just flat out cheating.

I could go on.
DC is, sadly, lacking many inspiring individuals. Bend rules where it suits you.

I want officials who I can trust the way a church trusts it's clergy - without the inherent sex-starvation principle at work (that's for you, Bearister, because I know you're all over that one).

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Tom, I'm not going to address every item, but as you can tell as you read about Douglas, that SCOTUS judges have a long history of doing things we think they should not do and also as they age, being unfit physically or mentally for the position. Yet the the other Justices simply look the other way. More often than not because they engage in similar conduct when it comes to financial benefit (such as having clerks write books for you like Douglas) for taking junkets and perks, like Douglas. Douglas was an extreme case, well beyond Thomas, but he was tolerated.

The reality is Congress can say whatever it wants, but SCOTUS makes its own rules of conduct through its control over the Judicial Commission, and it can and does give simple lip service to Congress. The fact that self-professed experts don't even know that is rather shocking and reflects political bias, and while they admittedly say SCOTUS interprets Congress rules, that is not accurate. They have their own set of rules under the Judicial Commission, which SCOTUS has great influence.

It is accurate when critics say SCOTUS judges itself, and impeachment is the only check and balance. The problem is even impeachment is a slippery path, because most of the Justices are not going to give up their gravy train, so one impeachment will lead to other impeachments as control over Congress changes. In reaction to Congressional pressure, Kagan and Roberts said they would stop attending "political" events that were sponsored by groups who were in front to SCOTUS or took positions on SCOTUS decisions, and they could not get one other Justice to join them. It is not just Thomas, the Justices as a whole feel they can set their own rules and seem quite prepared to protect each other regardless of political persuasion. It is a great club to belong to.

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Thank you.

In an ideal world, Congress would add an amendment to the constitution putting some oversight to the Supreme Court beyond Impeachment.

It would also be ideal if Justices actually took the appointment as some sort of holy honor. I gave the Priest example on purpose.

And, yes, let's end the lifetime appointment. Cognition tests?

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Further thoughts…

There are certain life decisions, callings, commitments that people make all the time.

Typically, at the wedding altar, a vow of monogamy is exchanged. And often, if tgat is broken, so is the marriage.

In Catholic priesthood, one marries the church. No sex. Breaking this meant expulsion.

Doctors and the Socratic Oath.

People enter willingly.

We do not hold elected officials or judges to sex commitments, and law is not written to do so.

But it seems to me that we should not be so timid as to hold the 9 Supreme Court Justices to a HIGH high standard. Moreover, they should be holding themselves to a high standard.

I have had the opportunity to cheat and fudge many financial rules. Front running trades in my prior profession would have been oh so easy, and lucrative.

A person needs to have personal integrity.
Too many politicians these days lack inspiring character. Judge Thomas and his wife do not. They want the advantages but not the restraints required of the position. And I'm not even talking about the vacations.

McConnell also lacks respectable character. How he held up Garland was despicable. That's just flat out cheating.

I could go on.
DC is, sadly, lacking many inspiring individuals. Bend rules where it suits you.

I want officials who I can trust the way a church trusts it's clergy - without the inherent sex-starvation principle at work (that's for you, Bearister, because I know you're all over that one).

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Tom, I'm not going to address every item, but as you can tell as you read about Douglas, that SCOTUS judges have a long history of doing things we think they should not do and also as they age, being unfit physically or mentally for the position. Yet the the other Justices simply look the other way. More often than not because they engage in similar conduct when it comes to financial benefit (such as having clerks write books for you like Douglas) for taking junkets and perks, like Douglas. Douglas was an extreme case, well beyond Thomas, but he was tolerated.

The reality is Congress can say whatever it wants, but SCOTUS makes its own rules of conduct through its control over the Judicial Commission, and it can and does give simple lip service to Congress. The fact that self-professed experts don't even know that is rather shocking and reflects political bias, and while they admittedly say SCOTUS interprets Congress rules, that is not accurate. They have their own set of rules under the Judicial Commission, which SCOTUS has great influence.

It is accurate when critics say SCOTUS judges itself, and impeachment is the only check and balance. The problem is even impeachment is a slippery path, because most of the Justices are not going to give up their gravy train, so one impeachment will lead to other impeachments as control over Congress changes. In reaction to Congressional pressure, Kagan and Roberts said they would stop attending "political" events that were sponsored by groups who were in front to SCOTUS or took positions on SCOTUS decisions, and they could not get one other Justice to join them. It is not just Thomas, the Justices as a whole feel they can set their own rules and seem quite prepared to protect each other regardless of political persuasion. It is a great club to belong to.

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Thank you.

In an ideal world, Congress would add an amendment to the constitution putting some oversight to the Supreme Court beyond Impeachment.

It would also be ideal if Justices actually took the appointment as some sort of holy honor. I gave the Priest example on purpose.

And, yes, let's end the lifetime appointment. Cognition tests?

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I hear you Tom.

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Seriously, how do they even think this would happen? You're never getting enough Senate votes to remove him.

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Or in the House to even impeach (as opposed to conviction in the Senate).

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There is a smattering of details on Sotomayor, usually in connection with the annual articles that come from the same sources about SCOTUS junkets. Here are some examples:

"Justice Sonia Sotomayor flew commercial when she gave the University of Rhode Island's commencement speech in 2016, but her roundtrip flights from Washington, D.C. to Providence, Rhode Island, still cost more than $1,0oo. Once in Providence, Sotomayor, her security detail and some of her family friends stayed in a bloc of between five and 11 hotel rooms at The Break, a boutique hotel in Narragansett that advertises rooms at about $200 $250 a night." Roll Call Legislative Journal March 24, 2020.

Sotomayor has reported law school teaching income in various years. Reuters June 17, 2020 (me- most Justices teach at law schools when SCOTUS if off term). Sotomayor also has the most investment income of all Judges per Reuters [most of those investments are in blind trust - me again as source].

There is an entire June 16, 2022 article from "Fix the Court" that takes Sotomajor to task for leaving out "six free or reimbursed excursions off her 2016 financial disclosure report, which she amendment last year but was only released to the public (i.e., us) today".

April 14, 2017 article on C-Span on an unreported visit to Stanford Law School (had to throw this in given the latest controversy at Furd).

There were some articles when Sotomayor was the sole dissent (8 to 1 vote) where SCOTUS ruled Congress can exclude residents of Puerto Rico from some federal disability benefits available to those who live in the 50 states,. Sotomayor's parents are from Puerto Rico, and she visits the island to see relatives, often on trips paid for by Puerto Rican businesses. E.G., CNN Politics April 20, 2022.

She spends a lot more time doing school speeches, but occasionally goes off on political issues, which you would think would disqualify from hearing cases on these issues (or do Justices have First Amendment rights?). her is an example. https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/21/politics/sonia-sotomayor-conservative-supreme-court. This is essentially the same thing Ginsburg said, and Ginsburg had to apologize after conservative critics stated suggesting she disqualified herself from hearing certain cases.


On I assume the non-controversial side: Sonia Sotomayor disclosed more than $3.3 million in book payments since 2010reported earning $115,593 in book royalties from Penguin Random House last year, with whom she has released multiple children's books and her autobiography. Washington Post


Thomas clearly has other issues than Sotomayor, such as his wife may have created conflicts. But Sotomayor is not a perfect angel, and it is interesting how the mass media has not picked-up on certain things even when reported by more left leaning sources such s Fix the Court. That said, she has independent income and seems to take far less on the gravy trains than some other Justices such as Beyer and Thomas, who seem to be the worst in recent times. Sotomeyor probably gets mentioned by Fix the Court and other reform minded groups, just so they don't look like they are playing favorites. She may take advantage so perks, but she probably is the cleanest Justice, though again, Kagan and Roberts recently have chosen to back off on speaking engagements and junkets.

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I was thinking when reading this… hell, just pay then a million a year, or more, so they don't feel like they have to venture outside for income.

Just now I found this.
Paltry!

As of January 2023

President $400,000
Vice President $235,100
Speaker of the House $235,100
House and Senate Majority & Minority Leaders/Senate President Pro Tempore $193,400
House/Senate Members & Delegates $174,000
Chief Justice, Supreme Court $298,500
Associate Justices, Supreme Court $285,400

Justice Thomas just tuned in to this thread and laughed. "And they wonder why we do it."

Thomas is into porn, a crook and a perjurer….but other than that, a great guy and the life of any party according to friends, neighbors and co workers.

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Thomas is into porn, a crook and a perjurer….but other than that, a great guy and the life of any party according to friends, neighbors and co workers.

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The SCOTUS justices act with impunity.

Federal judges serve for life. Their motto is:

"If you don't like it, do something about it. In fact, I double f@ucking dare you to try."

listen to Slow Burn: Becoming Clarence Thomas, out May 31

And listen to the trailer here (or in your podcast feeds!) https://t.co/wFnFSkxBQ7

— Katie Rayford (@katie_rayford) April 13, 2023

And you can hear me talk to Clarence Thomas' mom — who I call Ms. Leola — in the den of Harlan Crow's home in the upcoming season of Slow Burn. https://t.co/1bU1yvvoFQ

— Joel D. Anderson (@byjoelanderson) April 13, 2023

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They need to get Thomas off the court before Biden's term. They know this. They will look for anything.

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Seriously, how do they even think this would happen? You're never getting enough Senate votes to remove him.

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You'd be surprised what you can accomplish when you own the american media and intelligence services.

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Powerful though they may be, I don't think they have the power to remove a Supreme Court justice.

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Hillary Clinton paid $1 million for a fake dossier to have Trump impeached with the help of the intelligence services and media shills.

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The dossier had nothing to do with either of Trump's record breaking impeachments

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Trump's campaign was literally spied on by the FBI, so yes..it did.

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You sound terribly upset.

Did you cry on Election night in 2020 when Trump lost? Did you boycott Faux News when they called Arizona "early" for Biden?

Did you start watching OAN?
Or Newsmax?

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Yes he did. He is a standard cuck, cucks always cry

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Federal judges serve for life. Their motto is:

"If you don't like it, do something about it. In fact, I double f@ucking dare you to try."

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Every one of my litigation partners had stories about being abused by different federal judges. That lifetime appointment thing provides a good buffer against misconduct.

Yep, appearing before a Federal Judge is like going before The Wizard of Oz. Their benches always had lots of elevation.

Harlan Crow bought a $133,363 HOUSE from Clarence Thomas



https://mol.im/a/11970619

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NEW: Billionaire Harlan Crow bought property from Clarence Thomas in undisclosed real estate deal.

Crow netted two vacant lots and the house where Thomas’ elderly mother was living. It’s unclear if he paid fair market value.https://t.co/j9byPGpUnI

w/ @js_kaplan @Amierjeski

— Justin Elliott (@JustinElliott) April 13, 2023

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FUN FACT: In CA you can pretty accurately approximate purchase price based on the documentary transfer tax that was paid. Not sure if this works in GA too.

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Yep, appearing before a Federal Judge is like going before The Wizard of Oz. Their benches always had lots of elevation.

Harlan Crow bought a $133,363 HOUSE from Clarence Thomas



https://mol.im/a/11970619

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Sure there is not a digit missing? Even in Georgia, that seems really low.

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Yep, appearing before a Federal Judge is like going before The Wizard of Oz. Their benches always had lots of elevation.

Harlan Crow bought a $133,363 HOUSE from Clarence Thomas



https://mol.im/a/11970619

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Sure there is not a digit missing? Even in Georgia, that seems really low.

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Nope.

Crow's companies bought a number of Savannah, GA properties co-owned by Thomas and members of his family for $133,363. The purchase included the 2 bedroom home of Justice Thomas' moth, Leola. Crow's firm then upgraded it with $36,000 in renovations, including a garage, repaired roof, and a new fence and gate.

Any real estate transaction over $1,000 is required to be reported.
Justice Thomas failed to do so.

Surely there is an agreement to let her stay there until she dies, likely rent free.

"Here, let me just take care of this property for you. My people will handle it. Anything your mother needs, no problem."

Meanwhile, Thomas cashed out.
It's an odd arrangement.

And ya gotta wonder what else this guy has done for Thomas.
They say for every rat you see in your home, there's 10 more hidden.

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Federal judges serve for life. Their motto is:

"If you don't like it, do something about it. In fact, I double f@ucking dare you to try."

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Every one of my litigation partners had stories about being abused by different federal judges. That lifetime appointment thing provides a good buffer against misconduct.

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So, you seem to be upset by misconduct.
What would YOU want to see happen here?

And oh btw here's this morning's article:

Sorry everyone, but Clarence Thomas can take undisclosed money from whomever he wants and there is little to be done about it

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sorry-everyone-clarence-thomas-undisclosed-123000789.html

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wifeisafurd said:

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Federal judges serve for life. Their motto is:

"If you don't like it, do something about it. In fact, I double f@ucking dare you to try."

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Every one of my litigation partners had stories about being abused by different federal judges. That lifetime appointment thing provides a good buffer against misconduct.

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So, you seem to be upset by misconduct.
What would YOU want to see happen here?

And oh btw here's this morning's article:

Sorry everyone, but Clarence Thomas can take undisclosed money from whomever he wants and there is little to be done about it

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sorry-everyone-clarence-thomas-undisclosed-123000789.html

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Nobody comes out of Washington D.C. poorer than they went in.