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In reply to Big C • 6:55p, 5/9/23
Joe's diet that was made public the other day goes a long way to explain why he has that "my life force is sucking out of me" voice. Not everyone is blessed with Winston Churchill's genetics:

Winston Churchill's (who died at 90) daily regime:

7.30 Wake up, remain in bed, eat breakfast, read newspapers, work, glass of whiskey and soda.
11:00 Out of bed, stroll around garden supervising estate, whiskey and soda.
13:00 Multi-course lunch, imperial pint of Champagne.
15:30 Work from study, glass of cognac.
17:00 Hour and a half nap/siesta, a habit acquired during his time in Cuba.
18:30 Wake up, bath, dress for dinner.
20:00 Lengthly dinner with guests, imperial pint of Champagne.
00:00 Work in study, more cognac.
01:0003:00 Bedtime.

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7:09p, 5/9/23
Why do we have all these shootings in here? None of them happened during Mass.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 7:12p, 5/9/23
They will. Soft target. I've been involved twice coming to the aid of a priest on the altar.

….and this:

Religion and schizophrenia - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_schizophrenia
*See section on religion as a trigger

"It is possible that religion can sometimes be a trigger for schizophrenia in those who are vulnerable; religious imagery is often very grandiose, and beckons a large personal change within an individual. This could potentially lead to a psychotic episode due to the shift in realistic thinking; a sufferer may believe that they themselves are a deity or messiah. These symptoms may cause violent behavior, either toward others or themselves."

*Good pun on thread title, however
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7:43p, 5/9/23
Right-Wingers Are Getting Desperate After Another Shooting By A Far-Right Extremist:
https://news.yahoo.com/wingers-getting-desperate-another-shooting-222134862.html
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In reply to chazzed • 7:52p, 5/9/23
chazzed said:
Right-Wingers Are Getting Desperate After Another Shooting By A Far-Right Extremist:
https://news.yahoo.com/wingers-getting-desperate-another-shooting-222134862.html


But some on here got the nerve to get upset with me for calling out racist bs smh
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In reply to oski003 • 2:31p, 5/11/23
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going4roses said:
Proximity to whiteness has been a key factor for many years

Lite skinned Cubans(100% in denial of their African DNA)and Mexicans that want to be white so bad and embraced the mindset we are not N______.
You can add Africans /Middle Eastern (such as Dinesh Joseph D'Souza) people who exist/capitalize on civil rights bloodshed of the descendants of chattel slavery.


You certainly hate all things white. Wow.



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11:24a, 5/13/23
This mother's story is heartbreaking yet inspiring.
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In reply to chazzed • 11:45a, 5/13/23
Is that one of the mothers the police was trying to arrest ?
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In reply to going4roses • 2:49p, 5/13/23
Good question.
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6:46a, 5/20/23
School gun violence torments America's youngest generation


https://www.axios.com/2023/05/20/gun-violence-children-schools
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7:09a, 5/23/23
Thoughts and prayers….and, oh yeah, more pro gun legislation.

U.S. lawmakers OK'd more pro-gun bills than safety measures since Uvalde


https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/gun-legislation-uvalde-shooting
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In reply to bearister • 12:19p, 5/24/23
bearister said:
Thoughts and prayers….and, oh yeah, more pro gun legislation.

U.S. lawmakers OK'd more pro-gun bills than safety measures since Uvalde


https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/gun-legislation-uvalde-shooting

As you may know, today is the one-year annivesary of the Robb Elementary School massacre in Uvalde.
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12:24p, 5/24/23
Any progress towards rectifying the problem/policy?

Why not ?
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8:48p, 5/27/23
Multiple people shot at Memorial Day biker rally in New Mexico



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12:40a, 5/28/23
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In reply to BearHunter • 12:45a, 5/28/23
BearHunter said:


Do you get all your facts from Rob Schneider?

That graphic is not true.

" By no measure is the United States third in total homicides or homicide rates. Excluding the named cities from the count had little to no impact on the United States' international standing.

Three of the cities named in the meme are consistently the top cities for intentional homicides in the United States, but the other two are not. They are by no means outliers, either.

We rate this claim Pants on Fire!"

Link:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/mar/28/viral-image/united-states-third-murders-outlier-cities/
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In reply to dimitrig • 12:47a, 5/28/23
The fact remains the most violent cities in the U.S. are run by Democrats.
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In reply to BearHunter • 4:52a, 5/28/23
Tell me when hasn't America been a violent place ?

Isn't one of the foundational pillars of this land violence ?
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In reply to BearHunter • 4:53a, 5/28/23
BearHunter said:
The fact remains the most violent cities in the U.S. are run by Democrats.


Leave then, Go back to your homeland
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In reply to BearHunter • 5:29a, 5/28/23
BearHunter said:
The fact remains the most violent cities in the U.S. are run by Democrats.


Eh hem.
I think the data that you'd need is "big cities with Republican mayors".
Can you name them?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_the_50_largest_cities_in_the_United_States

3 in the top 33.
11 in the top 50.

Big cities tend to elect democrats.
Why?

You might as well say "most pizza is eaten by Democrat run cities."

Im guessing you're smart enough to know this, but evil enough to make the claim nonetheless.
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In reply to bearister • 5:49a, 5/28/23
bearister said:
Thoughts and prayers….and, oh yeah, more pro gun legislation.

U.S. lawmakers OK'd more pro-gun bills than safety measures since Uvalde


https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/gun-legislation-uvalde-shooting


Hollywood really shaped my values around war. After Vietnam, there were many anti-war films that showed the madness of it all:
Deer Hunter
Apocalypse Now
Platoon
In these films, not only are lives needlessly wasted, but characters go crazy in the process. There is no heroic John Wayne saving the day, there are just a bunch of humans in a mad mad mad situation running around with guns.

I wonder why I can't think up similar Hollywood films put together to combat the gun violence phenomenon in this country. Surely there are scripts out there that could have a similar cultural mind shift, no?
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In reply to concordtom • 3:06p, 5/28/23

Hey, as Alfred Hitchcock once said, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."
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In reply to concordtom • 4:51p, 5/28/23
concordtom said:
bearister said:
Thoughts and prayers….and, oh yeah, more pro gun legislation.

U.S. lawmakers OK'd more pro-gun bills than safety measures since Uvalde


https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/gun-legislation-uvalde-shooting


Hollywood really shaped my values around war. After Vietnam, there were many anti-war films that showed the madness of it all:
Deer Hunter
Apocalypse Now
Platoon
In these films, not only are lives needlessly wasted, but characters go crazy in the process. There is no heroic John Wayne saving the day, there are just a bunch of humans in a mad mad mad situation running around with guns.

I wonder why I can't think up similar Hollywood films put together to combat the gun violence phenomenon in this country.Surely there are scripts out there that could have a similar cultural mind shift, no?


So I suppose the next thing you are going to tell me is that this isn't that film:


*We cued it up last night and I fell asleep during the first 40 minutes….and my wife said I missed a couple of hundred murders.
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In reply to Big C • 5:57p, 5/28/23
Big C said:

Hey, as Alfred Hitchcock once said, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."
or knives.
See: London
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In reply to concordtom • 6:08p, 5/28/23
concordtom said:
Big C said:

Hey, as Alfred Hitchcock once said, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."
or knives.
See: London
I know how to disarm someone trying to attack me or someone else with a knife.

I can't stop a semi-automatic rifle.

I am not looking to get into a shoot out with an outlaw. But I would like to make it more difficult for guns to be purchased even if criminals may still procure them illegally. Allowing me to carry a gun I won't carry is not going to make me feel safer when criminals and mentally disturbed people are now having an even easier time getting them.

At least for me, I will always vote for more gun control. My personal views. I understand why gun enthusiasts will want to be able to get guns. But I don't understand why people balk at having to get insurance to possess the most dangerous equipment when we require them for less dangerous equipment. I don't believe people actually believe cars are less essential than guns, but people are still required to carry liability insurance. If people want to have guns, be a big boy and take accountability.
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In reply to calbear93 • 6:52a, 5/29/23
Good thoughts there
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In reply to bearister • 6:52a, 5/29/23
I've never seen John Wick.
No clue what it's about.
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In reply to concordtom • 10:08a, 5/29/23
concordtom said:
I've never seen John Wick.
No clue what it's about.


Me neither.

I saw the trailer for the latest movie and it looks really violent.

Not my kind of movie.

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6:59p, 5/29/23
At least nine people are shot as gunfire erupts on Florida boardwalk



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In reply to bearister • 7:04p, 5/29/23
Damnnn
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In reply to going4roses • 7:19p, 5/29/23
Thoughts and prayers to Florida.

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. Governor Ron DeSantis signed House Bill (HB) 543 which strengthens Floridians' Second Amendment rights by allowing Floridians to carry concealed weapons without a government-issued permit. HB 543 goes into effect on July 1, 2023, making Florida the 26th state to enact Constitutional Carry legislation.
https://www.flgov.com/2023/04/03/governor-ron-desantis-signs-hb-543-constitutional-carry/#:~:text=%20Today%2C%20Governor%20Ron%20DeSantis%20signed,to%20enact%20Constitutional%20Carry%20legislation.
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In reply to bearister • 7:30p, 5/29/23
Why is no one blaming him?
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In reply to going4roses • 7:36p, 5/29/23
going4roses said:
Why is no one blaming him?


This wasn't a result of violent gang culture?
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In reply to bearister • 9:37p, 5/29/23
bearister said:
At least nine people are shot as gunfire erupts on Florida boardwalk
https://mol.im/a/12137781


Clearly HB 543 did not go into effect fast enough to save lives.

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