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He gained points with me when he referenced American icon Dr. Thomas Sowell.

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It's taken at least a couple of years, but I think I'm finally starting to appreciate your humor. In the past, you may have been a bit too subtle for me.

One of the funniest lines ever on BI: " ... American icon Dr. Thomas Sowell."

I appreciate you now!

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Years ago I was chatting with a librarian at one of the libraries on campus, and I shared the comment from a librarian friend that, allegedly, some collections are inflated when there are multiple branches. Why? Because the undergrad library, law library, etc., will all have duplicate copies of the same book.

I'm not a library expert, but shared what I was told. The Cal librarian scoffed at my tidbit.

So I suggested she enter Stanford economic historian and social commentator Dr. Thomas Sowell. The book title I gave popped up in Moffet, Doe, Ethnic Studies Library, ... everywhere. She wasn't pleased.

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Crazy that a university with 30,000 students plus professors and visiting researchers would have more than one copy of a book.

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Joe Biden has been the best President of my lifetime

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C'mon man.

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Who you got?

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Abraham Lincoln. I have pics of his inauguration somewhere.

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Any president other than Carter and maybe the second Bush. Heck, even among the Democrats, Clinton was one my favorite president, and Obama, before he went down the rabbit hole of identity politics, was effective and mostly inspirational.

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So in my adult life, you've got Clinton, Obama, and Trump. Interesting choices.

Obama sucked at responding to the Great Recession. We had the slow rebound and Biden has done a great job avoiding that. Clinton did a lot of great things but ultimately his deregulation of the financial industry led to real problems a decade down the road. He also cut capital gains taxes.

Don't get me wrong - Clinton and Obama were both successful but Biden has brought us from a complete mess to thriving normalcy.

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Clearly not Trump, but yes, and I would add Reagan and the first Bush.

Obama did not suck at responding to the Great Recession. Not sure what you were doing at the time, but, without intending to be offensive or insulting, I don't take your assessment of the economy or economic policies very seriously. Sorry, but you have shown lack of deep and actual insight (beyond posting stupid graphs or twitter but actual, real life knowledge) of financial and economic realities. So, from my end and having represented corporations during that time (even some who were on the verge of bankruptcy because of shut down in liquidity), Obama did what was necessary and forced the even healthy banks to take the shame away from rescue by forcing everyone to take a rescue and avoid an existential threat of our financial systems. Idiots who had no understanding of what was at stake and what was being done complained about it.

Biden, based on my frequent discussions with people who are actually financial leaders, board members, CEOs, etc., is generally view as clueless and always behind. If you think he did a great job on the economy the last three years, we will never agree, and you may need to deal with actual people in leadership and decision makers. Sorry, not trying to minimize your great MBA, but you and I will never agree on economic assessment because, for the most part, things you write on these topics are so counter to what I am seeing with my investments, my advisement on boards, and my friendships with private equity and hedge fund managers, and not just folks renting out their second home. Sorry, we disagree. Biden is not good for the economy, and even the folks he appointed at the SEC and FTC are absolute, utter disasters.

You and I don't need to go into the weeds on this, because we have crossed this path many times before, from inflation, equity investments, interest rates, monetary policies, and you seem to live in an alternate reality from mine.

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I was a minor when Reagan and Bush Sr were elected but Bush Sr was far too eager for war for my tastes. I don't think anybody supports his type of foreign policy anymore.

Obama embraced conservative austerity and set the recovery back years. It was clear the economy needed more government spending in his 1st term but he acquiesced too easily to Republican demands.

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Not sure what you mean by being too eager for war. He is the one who withdrew from Iraq instead of destroying a government without a replacement like second Bush.

Not sure what you also meant by austerity. Assume you realize that the Republicans had the House (assuming you know how government works and who holds the purse in the federal government) and that his Fed appointment juiced the monetary policy to create the most amount of wealth and biggest bull market in my lifetime.

But here we go again. Your reality is divorced from my experience, so let's leave it here. Not sure my assessment of your economic acumen needs more degradation, and we won't convince each other.

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Iraq and Panama. Both unnecessary Bush Sr. wars. Imagine us invading a Central American country like that today.

Obama's entire approach was always to find compromise with Republicans. It's why I supported Hillary. It was obvious they wanted to sabotage Obama with fiscal austerity and a bad recovery for the American people. Obama went along rather than fighting. It was his biggest mistake and it was a painful mistake for the American people.

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Because she isn't old, stupid, dangerous, delusional, a business fraud, a tax cheat, devoid of empathy, a seditionist, a traitor, a sexual abuser, a horrible parent, a racist, a serial liar, a pretend Christian, hateful, a mocker of the disabled or a criminal. I guess you're right, because she isn't tRump.

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dimitrig said:

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Genocide Joe said:

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Nikki Haley was outraged by Vivek Ramaswamy's suggestion that she was owned by corporate interests.

But after her stint in the Trump Administration, Haley's strained financial situation suddenly turned around—amassing a small fortune from the likes of Boeing & Barclays. pic.twitter.com/dCmo7Labq7

— System Update (@SystemUpdate_) August 29, 2023

Nikki is so pretend that she doesn't even run under her actual name.

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She even changed her husband's name!

"Haley's husband is now known as Michael Haley, but as the former South Carolina governor and current Republican presidential candidate wrote in her 2012 memoir Can't Is Not an Option, he used to go by Bill. In an anecdote that resurfaced on social media this week and quickly spread around the web, Haley told the story of sitting then-Bill down one day to tell him that his name wasn't Bill anymore.

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Big C said:

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Vivek: rhymes with strudel, baby!

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movielover said:

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President Trump is 6'3", Baron Trumpnis 6'8", and who knows how short DeSanctimonious is.

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Genocide Joe said:

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bearister said:

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Because she isn't old, stupid, dangerous, delusional, a business fraud, a tax cheat, devoid of empathy, a seditionist, a traitor, a sexual abuser, a horrible parent, a racist, a serial liar, a pretend Christian, hateful, a mocker of the disabled or a criminal. I guess you're right, because she isn't tRump.

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Nikki Haley was outraged by Vivek Ramaswamy's suggestion that she was owned by corporate interests.

But after her stint in the Trump Administration, Haley's strained financial situation suddenly turned around—amassing a small fortune from the likes of Boeing & Barclays. pic.twitter.com/dCmo7Labq7

— System Update (@SystemUpdate_) August 29, 2023

Nikki is so pretend that she doesn't even run under her actual name.

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bear2034 said:

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Big C said:

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Vivek: rhymes with strudel, baby!

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Hey Big C, Niki's birth name is Nimarata Randhawa.

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movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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calbear93 said:

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dajo9 said:

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calbear93 said:

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dajo9 said:

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calbear93 said:

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bear2034 said:

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dajo9 said:

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bear2034 said:

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dajo9 said:

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Joe Biden has been the best President of my lifetime

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C'mon man.

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Who you got?

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Abraham Lincoln. I have pics of his inauguration somewhere.

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Any president other than Carter and maybe the second Bush. Heck, even among the Democrats, Clinton was one my favorite president, and Obama, before he went down the rabbit hole of identity politics, was effective and mostly inspirational.

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So in my adult life, you've got Clinton, Obama, and Trump. Interesting choices.

Obama sucked at responding to the Great Recession. We had the slow rebound and Biden has done a great job avoiding that. Clinton did a lot of great things but ultimately his deregulation of the financial industry led to real problems a decade down the road. He also cut capital gains taxes.

Don't get me wrong - Clinton and Obama were both successful but Biden has brought us from a complete mess to thriving normalcy.

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Clearly not Trump, but yes, and I would add Reagan and the first Bush.

Obama did not suck at responding to the Great Recession. Not sure what you were doing at the time, but, without intending to be offensive or insulting, I don't take your assessment of the economy or economic policies very seriously. Sorry, but you have shown lack of deep and actual insight (beyond posting stupid graphs or twitter but actual, real life knowledge) of financial and economic realities. So, from my end and having represented corporations during that time (even some who were on the verge of bankruptcy because of shut down in liquidity), Obama did what was necessary and forced the even healthy banks to take the shame away from rescue by forcing everyone to take a rescue and avoid an existential threat of our financial systems. Idiots who had no understanding of what was at stake and what was being done complained about it.

Biden, based on my frequent discussions with people who are actually financial leaders, board members, CEOs, etc., is generally view as clueless and always behind. If you think he did a great job on the economy the last three years, we will never agree, and you may need to deal with actual people in leadership and decision makers. Sorry, not trying to minimize your great MBA, but you and I will never agree on economic assessment because, for the most part, things you write on these topics are so counter to what I am seeing with my investments, my advisement on boards, and my friendships with private equity and hedge fund managers, and not just folks renting out their second home. Sorry, we disagree. Biden is not good for the economy, and even the folks he appointed at the SEC and FTC are absolute, utter disasters.

You and I don't need to go into the weeds on this, because we have crossed this path many times before, from inflation, equity investments, interest rates, monetary policies, and you seem to live in an alternate reality from mine.

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I was a minor when Reagan and Bush Sr were elected but Bush Sr was far too eager for war for my tastes. I don't think anybody supports his type of foreign policy anymore.

Obama embraced conservative austerity and set the recovery back years. It was clear the economy needed more government spending in his 1st term but he acquiesced too easily to Republican demands.

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Not sure what you mean by being too eager for war. He is the one who withdrew from Iraq instead of destroying a government without a replacement like second Bush.

Not sure what you also meant by austerity. Assume you realize that the Republicans had the House (assuming you know how government works and who holds the purse in the federal government) and that his Fed appointment juiced the monetary policy to create the most amount of wealth and biggest bull market in my lifetime.

But here we go again. Your reality is divorced from my experience, so let's leave it here. Not sure my assessment of your economic acumen needs more degradation, and we won't convince each other.

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Iraq and Panama. Both unnecessary Bush Sr. wars. Imagine us invading a Central American country like that today.

Obama's entire approach was always to find compromise with Republicans. It's why I supported Hillary. It was obvious they wanted to sabotage Obama with fiscal austerity and a bad recovery for the American people. Obama went along rather than fighting. It was his biggest mistake and it was a painful mistake for the American people.

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What did Obama ever fight for, beyond ObamaCare? Didn't campaign a lot down the ticket, from what I recall. Left the DNC buried in debt. Didn't pass prison reform or close the border. But he and Holder did take the Patriot Act from Bush Jr., and weaponize our intell agencies against American citizens and opponents.

Noem takes down Birdbrain (Nikki Haley); VP candidate?

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Big C said:

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Big C said:

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Vivek: rhymes with strudel, baby!

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Hey Big C, Niki's birth name is Nimarata Randhawa.

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Thanks for the info! What should we make of that?

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Big C said:

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Big C said:

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Vivek: rhymes with strudel, baby!

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Hey Big C, Niki's birth name is Nimarata Randhawa.

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Thanks for the info! What should we make of that?

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Put it in the Presidential name changes file next to Gerald Ford.

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bear2034 said:

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Big C said:

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Vivek: rhymes with strudel, baby!

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Hey Big C, Niki's birth name is Nimarata Randhawa.

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Ramaswamy's presidential campaign shows signs of unraveling

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Ramaswamy's campaign has impressed many while DeSantis' and Haley's have not. Is part of the reason because the latter two have big money backing them?

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The more Ramaswamy participated in debates, the less serious he became as a candidate.

As I mentioned after the last debate, Ramaswamy was playing to an audience of one because the only folks he impressed are those who are wedded to Trump and were looking for a sycophant candidate who would bend the knee for Trump. He did that well, but so what? Those who would vote for him will eventually vote for Trump? What is his path? Did not impress me at all.

I think Haley, while still a bit milquetoast when it comes to attacking Trump (she needs to realize that trying not to alienate Trump voters will not matter if she loses the primary and those Trump voters are not going to vote for Biden), is the closest we have to a normal, serious Republican candidate that has a chance. Christie does not have a chance, and DeSantis ran to the right of Trump - again, why would those voters he was catering to vote for him and not Trump?

I think, as long as Haley does not go up in flames, will be the best alternative for non-Trump conservative voters. The chances of me voting for Ramaswamy is as high as me voting for Trump - zero. Same with DeSantis.

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Nikki Haley cancelled her events in Sioux City, Iowa to “avoid embarrassment.”

I’m headed to Sioux City for our event right now. We’re not cancelling. Four events in northwest Iowa, keeping them intact.

If you can’t handle the snow, you can’t handle Xi Jinping. https://t.co/kAWCP94NaN

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) January 8, 2024

Trump received 74 million votes in the previous election. I'd say Ramaswamy's audience is much larger than you think and that he'd make a great VP candidate. By the way, no one showed up to Haley's event in Iowa the other day. The media claimed it was canceled because of the weather but the event was canceled minutes before the event to avoid humiliation.

What is it about Niki Haley that impressed you besides the fact she's not Trump?

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And then he cancelled three events due to weather. How do you take this weenie seriously? Did he submit a subsequent tweet saying - yes, the weather was bad, I apologize to Haley since I now have cancelled my events due to weather?

What is it that I like about Haley? She is not bat**** crazy playing the populist angle saying stupid things just to cater to angry voters who are deciding who will be the next bat**** crazy leader because they are angry. She was effective as a governor and as our UN Ambassador.

Ramaswamy created a shell company that bought patents, pumped the stock, never actually manufactured drugs, tanked the the stock, and stepped away after what looks like defrauding investors. Seems like well suited to be president. No wonder he and Trump are suited for each other. They defraud investors, destroyed companies (how were the "ROI"s for the investors - what an arrogant name and complete failure to deliver?) and just say things that will trigger folks on both sides and are not actual solutions. Maybe he should have bought a patent on injecting bleach to kill the COVID virus.

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calbear93 said:

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bear2034 said:

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calbear93 said:

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bear2034 said:

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Ramaswamy's presidential campaign shows signs of unraveling

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Ramaswamy's campaign has impressed many while DeSantis' and Haley's have not. Is part of the reason because the latter two have big money backing them?

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The more Ramaswamy participated in debates, the less serious he became as a candidate.

As I mentioned after the last debate, Ramaswamy was playing to an audience of one because the only folks he impressed are those who are wedded to Trump and were looking for a sycophant candidate who would bend the knee for Trump. He did that well, but so what? Those who would vote for him will eventually vote for Trump? What is his path? Did not impress me at all.

I think Haley, while still a bit milquetoast when it comes to attacking Trump (she needs to realize that trying not to alienate Trump voters will not matter if she loses the primary and those Trump voters are not going to vote for Biden), is the closest we have to a normal, serious Republican candidate that has a chance. Christie does not have a chance, and DeSantis ran to the right of Trump - again, why would those voters he was catering to vote for him and not Trump?

I think, as long as Haley does not go up in flames, will be the best alternative for non-Trump conservative voters. The chances of me voting for Ramaswamy is as high as me voting for Trump - zero. Same with DeSantis.

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Nikki Haley cancelled her events in Sioux City, Iowa to “avoid embarrassment.”

I’m headed to Sioux City for our event right now. We’re not cancelling. Four events in northwest Iowa, keeping them intact.

If you can’t handle the snow, you can’t handle Xi Jinping. https://t.co/kAWCP94NaN

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) January 8, 2024

Trump received 74 million votes in the previous election. I'd say Ramaswamy's audience is much larger than you think and that he'd make a great VP candidate. By the way, no one showed up to Haley's event in Iowa the other day. The media claimed it was canceled because of the weather but the event was canceled minutes before the event to avoid humiliation.

What is it about Niki Haley that impressed you besides the fact she's not Trump?

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And then he cancelled three events due to weather. How do you take this weenie seriously? Did he submit a subsequent tweet saying - yes, the weather was bad, I apologize to Haley since I now have cancelled my events due to weather?

What is it that I like about Haley? She is not bat**** crazy playing the populist angle saying stupid things just to cater to angry voters who are deciding who will be the next bat**** crazy leader because they are angry. She was effective as a governor and as our UN Ambassador.

Ramaswamy created a shell company that bought patents, pumped the stock, never actually manufactured drugs, tanked the the stock, and stepped away after what looks like defrauding investors. Seems like well suited to be president. No wonder he and Trump are suited for each other. They defraud investors, destroyed companies (how were the "ROI"s for the investors - what an arrogant name and complete failure to deliver?) and just say things that will trigger folks on both sides and are not actual solutions. Maybe he should have bought a patent on injecting bleach to kill the COVID virus.

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Good post. Haley is too far to the right for my tastes, but at least she doesn't appear to be a kook or a crook. The silver lining to Trump's term in office was that he was incapable of getting much done, besides enriching himself a bit.

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Big C said:

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bear2034 said:

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Big C said:

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Vivek: rhymes with strudel, baby!

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Hey Big C, Niki's birth name is Nimarata Randhawa.

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Thanks for the info! What should we make of that?

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Big C said:

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Good post. Haley is too far to the right for my tastes, but at least she doesn't appear to be a kook or a crook. The silver lining to Trump's term in office was that he was incapable of getting much done, besides enriching himself a bit.

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A new racist conspiracy theory just dropped.

Trump now claims Nikki Haley is ineligible to be president. pic.twitter.com/Rrgw6T8V7Q

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 9, 2024

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Genocide Joe said:

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bearister said:

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Because she isn't old, stupid, dangerous, delusional, a business fraud, a tax cheat, devoid of empathy, a seditionist, a traitor, a sexual abuser, a horrible parent, a racist, a serial liar, a pretend Christian, hateful, a mocker of the disabled or a criminal. I guess you're right, because she isn't tRump.

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Nikki Haley was outraged by Vivek Ramaswamy's suggestion that she was owned by corporate interests.

But after her stint in the Trump Administration, Haley's strained financial situation suddenly turned around—amassing a small fortune from the likes of Boeing & Barclays. pic.twitter.com/dCmo7Labq7

— System Update (@SystemUpdate_) August 29, 2023

Nikki is so pretend that she doesn't even run under her actual name.

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This is rich coming from someone who renamed himself Genocide Joe and aliases 1-6378.

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GENOCIDE JOE

(Image is illustrative) pic.twitter.com/VeVvF3QQdI

— Sulaiman Ahmed (@ShaykhSulaiman) January 4, 2024