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5:08p, 6/19/25

Biden's failed Ministry of Truth was also Obama's failure.
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In reply to bear2034 • 6:39p, 6/19/25
bear2034 said:

Biden's failed Ministry of Truth was also Obama's failure.

That's not what he's saying here. He's talking about the social media algorithms being regulated to not elevate divisive voices/positions, which they clearly do favor now.
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In reply to sycasey • 7:35p, 6/19/25
The sales of Orwell's book 1984 increased 10,000% during Trump I. It's a book no MAGA has ever read…..but MAGA, having mastered the art of the "No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet" schoolyard insult, have co-opted 1984 and they demonstrate their complete ignorance every time they attempt to wield it.

Classic Novel '1984' Sales Are Up In The Era Of 'Alternative Facts' : The Two-Way : NPR


https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/25/511671118/classic-novel-1984-sales-are-up-in-the-era-of-alternative-facts

Orwell's "1984" and Trump's America | The New Yorker


https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/orwells-1984-and-trumps-america


Trump's America Is Worse Than Orwell's '1984'


https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/donald-trump-george-orwell-1984/

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12:36a, 6/21/25
There was never any good reason to keep this man imprisoned for more than three months.

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In reply to sycasey • 1:57a, 6/21/25
sycasey said:
There was never any good reason to keep this man imprisoned for more than three months.



I wonder if he regrets helping Trump get elected
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In reply to dajo9 • 7:11p, 6/28/25
dajo9 said:
sycasey said:
There was never any good reason to keep this man imprisoned for more than three months.



I wonder if he regrets helping Trump get elected


The guy is not even a citizen, he did not vote.

Was he somehow involved in Trump's campaign, or is this another one of your bizarre fabulations, like the story about the 88 foot flagpole??
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:35p, 6/28/25
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
sycasey said:
There was never any good reason to keep this man imprisoned for more than three months.



I wonder if he regrets helping Trump get elected


The guy is not even a citizen, he did not vote.

Was he somehow involved in Trump's campaign, or is this another one of your bizarre fabulations, like the story about the 88 foot flagpole??
I'm not sure if this guy specifically did it, but there was a decent segment of the Gaza protestors who effectively argued that you should not vote for the Democratic candidate because it would make no difference. The argument is that this helped Trump get elected.

Not necessarily agreeing (again, I'm not sure what Khalil said about this one way or the other), just explaining.
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In reply to sycasey • 10:30p, 6/28/25
Will you congratulate President Trump if he inks a Gaza peace deal and endorse him resoundingly for the Nobel Peace Prize?
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1:26p, 7/3/25
BREAKING: CBS / Paramount agrees to pay $16 million to settle Trump's lawsuit over '60 Minutes' Kamala Harris interview for Deceptive Editing.

Oops.
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In reply to bear2034 • 3:51p, 7/3/25
Too much winning.
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In reply to Cal88 • 2:51p, 7/5/25
The UK seems finished. Did Tony Blair put them down this path?
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In reply to bear2034 • 3:00p, 7/5/25
bear2034 said:
BREAKING: CBS / Paramount agrees to pay $16 million to settle Trump's lawsuit over '60 Minutes' Kamala Harris interview for Deceptive Editing.

Oops.

A lot of people have been sayin' that it is a sign of Trump's unchained power that he can openly extort a $16M bribe in return for favorable consideration of a merger. A lot of people have also been sayin' that he has the power to f@uck Paramount on the deal just like he did Musk.

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In reply to movielover • 3:13p, 7/5/25
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The UK seems finished. Did Tony Blair put them down this path?

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In reply to Cal88 • 3:41p, 7/5/25
Eleven white males arresting one peaceful white male while allowing hundreds of thousands of British children to be brutally violated by gangs of sadistic predators.

Interestingly, in the days before ubiquitous social media, I took my first trip across the pond around 2000.

Repeatedly I heard Brits remark, "We don't have a Constitution", "You have a Constitution", etc.

But they're proud of Speaker's Corner (just don't diss the Queen) and no death penalty.
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In reply to Cal88 • 3:51p, 7/5/25
Blair was named in the Pandora Papers (secret offshore accounts). He now owns nine homes, including in exclusive Hyde Park and Edinburgh, and has an estimated net worth of 90 million Euros.
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In reply to bearister • 3:52p, 7/5/25
bearister said:
bear2034 said:
BREAKING: CBS / Paramount agrees to pay $16 million to settle Trump's lawsuit over '60 Minutes' Kamala Harris interview for Deceptive Editing.

Oops.

A lot of people have been sayin' that it is a sign of Trump's unchained power that he can openly extort a $16M bribe in return for favorable consideration of a merger. A lot of people have also been sayin' that he has the power to f@uck Paramount on the deal just like he did Musk.



Paramount is happy to pay- this bribery is cheap.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 4:06p, 7/5/25
Just like the integrity free law firms were.
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In reply to movielover • 6:01p, 7/5/25
movielover said:
Eleven white males arresting one peaceful white male while allowing hundreds of thousands of British children to be brutally violated by gangs of sadistic predators.

Interestingly, in the days before ubiquitous social media, I took my first trip across the pond around 2000.

Repeatedly I heard Brits remark, "We don't have a Constitution", "You have a Constitution", etc.

But they're proud of Speaker's Corner (just don't diss the Queen) and no death penalty.
The UK doesn't have a Queen these days. Try to keep up. Unless you meant Camilla. She's been fair game for decades.
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In reply to bearister • 9:25p, 7/5/25
bearister said:
bear2034 said:
BREAKING: CBS / Paramount agrees to pay $16 million to settle Trump's lawsuit over '60 Minutes' Kamala Harris interview for Deceptive Editing.

Oops.

A lot of people have been sayin' that it is a sign of Trump's unchained power that he can openly extort a $16M bribe in return for favorable consideration of a merger. A lot of people have also been sayin' that he has the power to f@uck Paramount on the deal just like he did Musk.

And CBS will soon learn that they can't actually appease someone like Trump. He will always want more. Penny wise, pound foolish decision by them.
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6:07p, 7/7/25
The current going rate to purchase approval of a merger is $32,000,000.

Trump claims he struck side deal with Skydance for additional $16 million in '60 Minutes' settlement | The Independent


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-60-minutes-settlement-skydance-cbs-b2784130.html
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1:44a, 7/18/25
NPR was castrated.
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2:48p, 7/20/25
The arrest bar in the UK and Germany among other nations is now down to holding a Palestinian flag:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/17/armed-police-threatened-to-arrest-kent-protester-for-holding-palestinian-flag

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In the encounter, which she filmed, one officer told her: "Mentioning freedom of Gaza, Israel, genocide, all of that all come under proscribed groups, which are terror groups that have been dictated by the government."

He went on to say that the phrase "Free Gaza" was "supportive of Palestine Action", adding it was an offence "to express an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation, namely Palestine Action is an offence under section 12(1A) of the Terrorism Act". The officer told her she had committed that offence.

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In reply to Cal88 • 9:03a, 7/21/25
KS idea of progress is allowing 17 year olds to vote.
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Trump Administration actions constituting censorship and/or having a negative impact on free speech:

"Pressuring Law Firms:
Executive orders have targeted law firms, alleging unethical conduct, and imposing sanctions such as:
Revoking security clearances.
Terminating government contracts.
Restricting access to federal buildings.
Barring federal agencies from utilizing the services of specific firms and suspending security clearances of their attorneys, as seen with Perkins Coie LLP.

Restricting access to information and targeting news outlets:
Threatening television and radio networks with license revocation for unfavorable reporting.
Revoking press credentials from media organizations perceived as critical.
Removing crucial datasets and web pages related to health and research from government websites.

Actions Targeting Universities and Educational Institutions:
Threatening to withhold funds from institutions continuing Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) programs.
Demanding that K-12 schools adopt "patriotic" curricula and threatening to withhold funding from those teaching that the US is "fundamentally racist, sexist, or otherwise discriminatory".

Social media
Lawsuits and pressure on platforms:
Trump initiated lawsuits against major social media companies like Facebook, Twitter (now X), and Google, alleging censorship of conservative voices.
Executive order on preventing online censorship: Trump signed an Executive Order aimed at "restoring freedom of speech and ending federal censorship" on social media platforms, targeting perceived suppression of conservative viewpoints, according to AP News.
Social media bans: Trump's accounts were suspended from Facebook and Instagram from January 7, 2021, to February 7, 2023, following the January 6 Capitol attack, due to violations of platform policies. Twitter permanently banned him on January 8, 2021, citing the risk of further incitement of violence and a pattern of violating company rules.

Broader concerns:
Attacking First Amendment institutions:
Critics argue that the Trump administration has targeted institutions vital to checking executive power, such as the media, universities, law firms, libraries, and museums, which are often called "First Amendment institutions".

Impact on free speech and academic freedom:
These actions have raised concerns about potential chilling effects on free speech, academic freedom, and the independent functioning of various organizations that receive federal funding or interact with the federal government.

Trump's lawsuit against CBS, coupled with the FCC's investigation and the conditions attached to the Paramount-Skydance merger approval, has raised significant concerns about the future of press freedom and the potential for a chilling effect on news organizations."
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Those of us who claimed the right-wing focus on "free speech" during the Biden years was completely fake and disingenuous have been proven completely right.
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In reply to bearister • 10:43a
The Democrats always accuse the Right of what they do. Saul Alinsky tactic - Rules for Radicals.

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In reply to movielover • 2:14p
You co-opted that from at least 12 books about Trump's life. One of his many tells since boyhood: When Trump accuses you of something….Trump is doing that precise thing or worse.
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In reply to movielover • 3:59p
movielover said:
The Democrats always accuse the Right of what they do. Saul Alinsky tactic - Rules for Radicals.

Democrats confess their sins through projection.
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In reply to sycasey • 4:06p
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Those of us who claimed the right-wing focus on "free speech" during the Biden years was completely fake and disingenuous have been proven completely right.


When Democrats censor or curb free speech, they refer to it as "combatting misinformation."
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