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In reply to BearlySane88 • 9:41p, 10/22/25
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The main criticism about the new WH ballroom is that it dwarfs the White House, arguably the most iconic landmark building in the US. They should have built it somewhere else in DC.

Also that Trump started demolition without dealing with niceties like approval from oversight boards.

The claim is made that it is all privately funded. Have they released any details? Privately funded by who?


Trump, who also offered $100 mil for the project during the Obama administration.
Google is paying $22 mil from a lawsuit and $5mil on their own
Lockheed Martin is paying $10 mil+
Blackstone is paying an undisclosed amount. Others as well


Reading Albert Speers memoir is a pretty good how-to on what is happening these days. Speers talks about how Hitler would force industrialists and business people to fund his pet projects. This is nothing new in the authoritarian world.


Again with the Hitler references. The left surely does love bringing that guy up.

Forced? What evidence do you have of Trump forcing anyone to pay for this?

You are naive, aren't you?


Again I ask, what evidence do you have of anyone being forced to pay for this ballroom? Call me whatever name you want but you didn't answer the question

It depends on how you define forced. If the names of donors are divulged, I'll expect that many of them have problems, "investigations" or tariffs pending that affect themselves or their businesses and a generous donation made everything get put on the back burner.

Just a hunch, but I was reading that NASA was threatening to drop SpaceX from the project to send men back to the Moon. Elon Musk was having a meltdown on X. It wouldn't surprise me if Musk makes a large public spirited donation in the near future to one of Trump's pet projects.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 6:14a, 10/23/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
BearlySane88 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
BearlySane88 said:
dajo9 said:
BearlySane88 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Cal88 said:
The main criticism about the new WH ballroom is that it dwarfs the White House, arguably the most iconic landmark building in the US. They should have built it somewhere else in DC.

Also that Trump started demolition without dealing with niceties like approval from oversight boards.

The claim is made that it is all privately funded. Have they released any details? Privately funded by who?


Trump, who also offered $100 mil for the project during the Obama administration.
Google is paying $22 mil from a lawsuit and $5mil on their own
Lockheed Martin is paying $10 mil+
Blackstone is paying an undisclosed amount. Others as well


Reading Albert Speers memoir is a pretty good how-to on what is happening these days. Speers talks about how Hitler would force industrialists and business people to fund his pet projects. This is nothing new in the authoritarian world.


Again with the Hitler references. The left surely does love bringing that guy up.

Forced? What evidence do you have of Trump forcing anyone to pay for this?

You are naive, aren't you?


Again I ask, what evidence do you have of anyone being forced to pay for this ballroom? Call me whatever name you want but you didn't answer the question

It depends on how you define forced. If the names of donors are divulged, I'll expect that many of them have problems, "investigations" or tariffs pending that affect themselves or their businesses and a generous donation made everything get put on the back burner.

Just a hunch, but I was reading that NASA was threatening to drop SpaceX from the project to send men back to the Moon. Elon Musk was having a meltdown on X. It wouldn't surprise me if Musk makes a large public spirited donation in the near future to one of Trump's pet projects.


So you have no proof. Got it. Another baseless claim that makes Trump into a dictator to fit your narrative.
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8:05a, 10/23/25
Newsom helped turn a massive surplus into a big deficit, with nothing to show for it.
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12:08p, 10/24/25
Newsom gave 62,000 CDL commercial driver licenses to illegals.
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6:34a, 10/27/25
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In reply to Cal88 • 7:34a, 10/27/25
Poser! If the Balboa could talk...
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In reply to movielover • 8:04a, 10/27/25
^Best plate of calamari in town.
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In reply to bearister • 1:31p, 11/17/25
bearister said:

This is how the Trump Administration intends to rig future elections:

Even after that election, conservative activists continued to hunt for evidence of fraud caused by machines. In 2023, multiple people, including a former state representative, were indicted in Michigan as part of a brazen scheme to illegally obtain and inspect election machines. Tina Peters, a former county clerk in Colorado, is serving nine years in prison for tampering with voting machines in an effort to prove that the machines had been used to rig the 2020 election against Mr. Trump.
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Tina Peters is a whistleblower who's guilty of catching the Democrats cheating in Colorado in 2020.

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1:30p, 11/22/25

Newsom's Californication.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 3:56p, 11/22/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:
bearister said:

This is how the Trump Administration intends to rig future elections:

Even after that election, conservative activists continued to hunt for evidence of fraud caused by machines. In 2023, multiple people, including a former state representative, were indicted in Michigan as part of a brazen scheme to illegally obtain and inspect election machines. Tina Peters, a former county clerk in Colorado, is serving nine years in prison for tampering with voting machines in an effort to prove that the machines had been used to rig the 2020 election against Mr. Trump.
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Tina Peters is a whistleblower who's guilty of catching the Democrats cheating in Colorado in 2020.



1. The voting machines used in Colorado are primarily made by Dominion. Fox News paid Dominion $787,000,000 to settle a defamation action relating to Fox News claiming Dominion voting machines were used to rig the 2020 Election.

How many millions do you reckon Fox News spent trying to prove those voting machines were rigged before they wire transferred $787,000,000 to the trust account of Dominion's counsel?

2. In August 2024, Tina Peters was convicted in Colorado state court on seven charges four of which were felonies relating to unauthorized access to election machines. She was subsequently sentenced to nine years of incarceration;

3. Tina Peters is a garden variety crook that also defrauded her husband.
Peters v. Peters civil case conflicts with criminal trial | Western Colorado | gjsentinel.com https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western_colorado/peters-v-peters-civil-case-conflicts-with-criminal-trial/article_fa2e9a48-eaa6-11ed-a44e-63096ab3c1ee.html

Why can't MAGAs be honest with themselves? Trump pardons convicted felons that share his political beliefs and that committed crimes they believed were helping Trump impose his agenda on our nation.

Does it make MAGAs feel like they are still decent people if they rationalize that all the felons Trump pardons are innocent?

BTW, Trump can't pardon a state court convicted jailbird.
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4:10p, 11/27/25

Happy Thanksgiving to all law-abiding pro-science Californians!
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 12:33a, 11/30/25
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Happy Thanksgiving to all law-abiding pro-science Californians!

Hey, if you want to have a family super spreader event during the next global pandemic, go for it.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 1:56a, 11/30/25
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Newsom is over. People in other parts of the country don't like Californians particularly him


True. I don't like him because he killed my father.
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In reply to txwharfrat • 4:04p, 11/30/25
txwharfrat said:
> True. I don't like him because he killed my father.

ohh? pls tell us more
> grab from the classic flick "Princess Bride"..
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
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9:45p, 12/12/25
Newsom is hot because social media says he is. Social media thought Kamala was too. But both are very conventional corporate politicians. Like her, he will be exposed when he gets on the road.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 10:00p, 12/12/25
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Newsom is hot because social media says he is. Social media thought Kamala was too. But both are very conventional corporate politicians. Like her, he will be exposed when he gets on the road.

Disagree. Newsom has gone out and talked to people on the national stage for decades. He will discuss anything. The more that people hear him in these formats, the more they tend to like him.

Kamala Harris shied away from informal debate because she knew (or was told) that her unprepared, inauthentic stances weren't going to play very well... and they didn't.
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10:10p, 12/12/25
I don't find him authentic at all, he's always pandering
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 9:34a, 12/13/25
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I don't find him authentic at all, he's always pandering


One of the least authentic politicians that I can remember
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 12:59p, 12/13/25
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Anarchistbear said:
I don't find him authentic at all, he's always pandering

One of the least authentic politicians that I can remember



This picture is authentic, though. His own press office tweeted it.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 8:08p, 12/13/25
Anarchistbear said:
I don't find him authentic at all, he's always pandering

I didn't say that Newsom is authentic; I said that Kamala Harris is inauthentic.

Newsom always seems to have the agenda of running for his next office, but he has always gone out and discussed the issues of the day with whomever wants to talk about them. I totally agree that he hasn't seemed very authentic since he has started to veer to the right on social issues this year.

Bottom line, Newsom is a politician. So's Harris, but in an even less authentic way (IMO).
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In reply to Big C • 2:08a, 12/14/25
Big C said:
Anarchistbear said:
I don't find him authentic at all, he's always pandering

I didn't say that Newsom is authentic; I said that Kamala Harris is inauthentic.

Newsom always seems to have the agenda of running for his next office, but he has always gone out and discussed the issues of the day with whomever wants to talk about them. I totally agree that he hasn't seemed very authentic since he has started to veer to the right on social issues this year.

Bottom line, Newsom is a politician. So's Harris, but in an even less authentic way (IMO).

They're both equally inauthentic, but one of them doesn't sound like a moron when he's doing it.

I think he'll be popular with the TDS crowd, but not with the people who want actual solutions crowd and there's plenty of demerits on his record in California for someone to come in and do what Tulsi did to Kamala in the primary and prematurely end his candidacy.
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