movielover said:

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Why has he skipped out on so many government meetings in his official capacity?

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Haloski said:

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movielover said:

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Why has he skipped out on so many government meetings in his official capacity?

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Thats a great question for this thread.

I think the answer is that your favorite people shield pedophiles and sexual assault perpetrators.

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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Muckieeye said:

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You have no idea if I cared or not the past five years. I could say the same of you, if that's the elementary school game you want to play.

Of course it is a partisan issue. Trump and the GOP ran on exposing it, and now they control every branch of government and are doing everything to keep it from happening. "But Obama! But Biden!"

More examples of the perfect being the enemy of the good. This is the "Someone did X before we did X, so it's all good. It was like this when we got here so no need to fix" corollary.

You pretend to be smarter than this.

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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had the Trumpsters not made such a fuss about the files my guess is that the bipartisan coverup could have continued on its merry way. It's the exposing of a failed gotcha moment that makes this all the more enjoyable…oh and pedo thing

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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had the Trumpsters not made such a fuss about the files my guess is that the bipartisan coverup could have continued on its merry way. It's the exposing of a failed gotcha moment that makes this all the more enjoyable…oh and pedo thing

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dajo9 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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had the Trumpsters not made such a fuss about the files my guess is that the bipartisan coverup could have continued on its merry way. It's the exposing of a failed gotcha moment that makes this all the more enjoyable…oh and pedo thing

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Yes, we all knew the cover up was bipartisan for a reason. But Trump lied to his supporters and said he would release the info. Anybody with a brain knew Trump was dirty with Epstein and he was lying but too many people are dumb(and a swarm of them are on this board).

So it is perfectly legitimate for us to hold Trump to his promises. This bs about Dems not pushing to release the files is beside the point. Trump lied to get elected. Funny his supporters don't care about that. Funny his supporters don't care he is all over the Epstein files. Funny his supporters don't care Trump raped girls.

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Aunburdened said:

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dajo9 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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had the Trumpsters not made such a fuss about the files my guess is that the bipartisan coverup could have continued on its merry way. It's the exposing of a failed gotcha moment that makes this all the more enjoyable…oh and pedo thing

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Yes, we all knew the cover up was bipartisan for a reason. But Trump lied to his supporters and said he would release the info. Anybody with a brain knew Trump was dirty with Epstein and he was lying but too many people are dumb(and a swarm of them are on this board).

So it is perfectly legitimate for us to hold Trump to his promises. This bs about Dems not pushing to release the files is beside the point. Trump lied to get elected. Funny his supporters don't care about that. Funny his supporters don't care he is all over the Epstein files. Funny his supporters don't care Trump raped girls.

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You are allergic to the truth.

Trump won because Biden's economy sucked ass and he armed a genocide. People that genuinely believed he would release Epstein info are upset about that, but those number are nowhere near the numbers on the other two issues.

Trump got elected because Biden sucked and Harris is a moron.

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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dajo9 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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had the Trumpsters not made such a fuss about the files my guess is that the bipartisan coverup could have continued on its merry way. It's the exposing of a failed gotcha moment that makes this all the more enjoyable…oh and pedo thing

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Yes, we all knew the cover up was bipartisan for a reason. But Trump lied to his supporters and said he would release the info. Anybody with a brain knew Trump was dirty with Epstein and he was lying but too many people are dumb(and a swarm of them are on this board).

So it is perfectly legitimate for us to hold Trump to his promises. This bs about Dems not pushing to release the files is beside the point. Trump lied to get elected. Funny his supporters don't care about that. Funny his supporters don't care he is all over the Epstein files. Funny his supporters don't care Trump raped girls.

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You are allergic to the truth.

Trump won because Biden's economy sucked ass and he armed a genocide. People that genuinely believed he would release Epstein info are upset about that, but those number are nowhere near the numbers on the other two issues.

Trump got elected because Biden sucked and Harris is a moron.

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Where did dajo claim that Trump won BECAUSE of Epstein? He said Trump lied about releasing the info.

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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dajo9 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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had the Trumpsters not made such a fuss about the files my guess is that the bipartisan coverup could have continued on its merry way. It's the exposing of a failed gotcha moment that makes this all the more enjoyable…oh and pedo thing

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Yes, we all knew the cover up was bipartisan for a reason. But Trump lied to his supporters and said he would release the info. Anybody with a brain knew Trump was dirty with Epstein and he was lying but too many people are dumb(and a swarm of them are on this board).

So it is perfectly legitimate for us to hold Trump to his promises. This bs about Dems not pushing to release the files is beside the point. Trump lied to get elected. Funny his supporters don't care about that. Funny his supporters don't care he is all over the Epstein files. Funny his supporters don't care Trump raped girls.

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You are allergic to the truth.

Trump won because Biden's economy sucked ass and he armed a genocide. People that genuinely believed he would release Epstein info are upset about that, but those number are nowhere near the numbers on the other two issues.

Trump got elected because Biden sucked and Harris is a moron.

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Where did dajo claim that Trump won BECAUSE of Epstein? He said Trump lied about releasing the info.

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"Trump lied to get elected"

I'm guessing but probably from this line of his post

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cal83dls79 said:

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…..whataboutisms being searched and gathered, "Clinton and Obama Campaign lies" being googled, meme copy and pasting commencing right about …..now.

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smh said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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…..whataboutisms being searched and gathered, "Clinton and Obama Campaign lies" being googled, meme copy and pasting commencing right about …..now.

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OT thread, just curious from your siggy boilerplate, and too lazy to google stuff (sorry), is there an actual shrine to miss Patty, sniff? signed, loong retired '73 eecs grad, 23X7 stuck at home desk-top boy.
tnx in adv '79
# gob ears

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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Haloski said:

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Cal88 said:

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Muckieeye said:

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You keep bringing that up as if it is relevant. How does that change the current facts? Are you saying it's cool to keep the docs classified because the other guys did it? I know that is not what you mean, but playing whataboutism like a garden variety lesser spotted MAGA is beneath you.

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No, I am saying that it is hypocritical to turn this into a partisan debate, Obama and Biden were just as rotten as Trump, face it. Trump does deserve more criticism because he run on exposing the issue and lied, but you didn't care about this the last 5 years.

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What's partisan about this? Throw them all in jail if they were involved. I couldn't care less.

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BREAKING: Rep. MTG (@mtgreenee) plans to read the names of powerful people on the Epstein list in Congress under immunity once the government reopens.

This is why this has been the longest government shutdown in American history.
pic.twitter.com/vdrFIHNZcW

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) November 2, 2025

I’m not afraid to say the names.

Jeffrey Epstein’s cabal of politicians, bureaucrats, and elites who turned a blind eye must be held accountable.

This is the product of past administrations, Republican and Democrat, trying to silence victims.

They deserve justice. And America… pic.twitter.com/3hAnYLJGlr

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) September 3, 2025

It’s been over a month since the Representative from Arizona won her election, but @SpeakerJohnson refuses to swear her in because she is the 218th (final needed) signature on my discharge petition to force a U.S. House vote on releasing the Epstein files.https://t.co/yeReIc1l8D

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 6, 2025

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It’s been over a month since the Representative from Arizona won her election, but @SpeakerJohnson refuses to swear her in because she is the 218th (final needed) signature on my discharge petition to force a U.S. House vote on releasing the Epstein files.https://t.co/yeReIc1l8D

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 6, 2025

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oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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It’s been over a month since the Representative from Arizona won her election, but @SpeakerJohnson refuses to swear her in because she is the 218th (final needed) signature on my discharge petition to force a U.S. House vote on releasing the Epstein files.https://t.co/yeReIc1l8D

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 6, 2025

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She'd be sworn in if democrats signed the clean bill funding the government. People generally don't get sworn in when the government is shut down.

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I'm here outside @SpeakerJohnson’s office because he is starving families and gutting health care to cover up the Epstein Files.

Change my mind. pic.twitter.com/RFlSTOVVSr

— Congresswoman Yassamin Ansari (@RepYassAnsari) November 6, 2025

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oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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It’s been over a month since the Representative from Arizona won her election, but @SpeakerJohnson refuses to swear her in because she is the 218th (final needed) signature on my discharge petition to force a U.S. House vote on releasing the Epstein files.https://t.co/yeReIc1l8D

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 6, 2025

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She'd be sworn in if democrats signed the clean bill funding the government. People generally don't get sworn in when the government is shut down.

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The entire 116th Congress (both returning and new members) were sworn in during the government shutdown in 2019.

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Muckieeye said:

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Nice copy and paste job of Trump/GOP talking point! Glad to see you have completely dropped any pretense of objectivity or independent thinking. It was a lame act that nobody was buying.

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oski003 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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It’s been over a month since the Representative from Arizona won her election, but @SpeakerJohnson refuses to swear her in because she is the 218th (final needed) signature on my discharge petition to force a U.S. House vote on releasing the Epstein files.https://t.co/yeReIc1l8D

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 6, 2025

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She'd be sworn in if democrats signed the clean bill funding the government. People generally don't get sworn in when the government is shut down.

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The entire 116th Congress (both returning and new members) were sworn in during the government shutdown in 2019.

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There is a difference between swearing in all of Congress during a new term (Jan 3), which is essential, and swearing in a new congressperson who won in a special election. If the democrats want her sworn in, they should just pass the clean funding bill and reopen the government.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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oski003 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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It’s been over a month since the Representative from Arizona won her election, but @SpeakerJohnson refuses to swear her in because she is the 218th (final needed) signature on my discharge petition to force a U.S. House vote on releasing the Epstein files.https://t.co/yeReIc1l8D

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 6, 2025

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She'd be sworn in if democrats signed the clean bill funding the government. People generally don't get sworn in when the government is shut down.

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The entire 116th Congress (both returning and new members) were sworn in during the government shutdown in 2019.

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There is a difference between swearing in all of Congress during a new term (Jan 3), which is essential, and swearing in a new congressperson who won in a special election. If the democrats want her sworn in, they should just pass the clean funding bill and reopen the government.

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Why is swearing in a new Congressperson nonessential? Just because you don't like how you expect she will vote doesn't seem like a valid reason. It certainly opens the door to situations where the Democrats can choose not to swear in new Republicans in the future. "The GOP can get their new Congressperson seated if they'll just vote against their principles on Bill XXXX."

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The team @DropSiteNews is uncovering just how deeply involved Jeffrey Epstein was with the Israeli government.

The @nytimes has 12 MILLION subscribers and THOUSANDS of employees.

They didn't find this because they didn't want to https://t.co/rpYLpeHQFX

— Shaun King (@shaunking) November 7, 2025

One of the craziest things happening right now is how there's been report after report after report showing that Epstein really was an Israeli intelligence operative, based on publicly available documents, and yet it's had no measurable impact on mainstream media or politics. pic.twitter.com/H42D5ndQHN

— Caitlin Johnstone (@caitoz) November 11, 2025