Jeffrey Epstein

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DiabloWags
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From what I've been reading in the WSJ lately, it would appear that they are holding steadfast and dug in for a fight.

By the way, here is what the Journal said in their "Review & Outlook" portion of their Opinion Section on Friday as a way to End the Epstein Follies:

"If Ms. Bondi and Mr. Patel are now telling the truth about the contents of the Epstein files, then what's needed are officials who will take the responsibilityand then take the heatfor declining to publish documents that could hurt victims and ruin reputations without a criminal case. It's too bad Mr. Trump didn't pick an Attorney General in the mold of Bill Barr, an experienced hand who could offer that kind of straight talk without worrying about the conspiracy-minded podcast attacks.

But perhaps Ms. Bondi and Mr. Patel could call a news conference, provide context on the mentions of Mr. Trump, and explain why releasing raw files could do more harm than good. Bring FBI deputy director Dan Bongino, if he'll show up. Then they and Mr. Trump could tell the public that the files didn't live up to the hype, including theirs before they took office, the case is closed, and that's that."





Haloski
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How did our President meet his wife?
DiabloWags
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Haloski said:

How did our President meet his wife?


"She's introduced by a model agent, both of whom Trump and Epstein are involved with. She's introduced to Trump that way. Epstein [knew] her well," Wolff said.

Trump and the future first lady reportedly first met in September 1998 through Paolo Zampolli, the founder of ID Models, who helped Melania emigrate to the United States. Zampolli had ties to Epstein and his now-incarcerated partner in crime, Ghislaine Maxwell, Politico reported. In explosive tapes recorded by Wolff, Epstein alleged that Trump liked to "f---" his friends' wives and first slept with Melania on his "Lolita Express."

Melania Trump 'Very Involved' In Epstein Scandal: Author
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wifeisafurd said:

DiabloWags said:

Todd Blanche, the deputy AG going down to Tallahassee is a unprecedented move by the DoJ.

I would suggest there's no way he enters that U.S. District Attorney's Office (already) knowing that there is potential criminality with Trump.

If she "has information about anyone who has committed crimes against victims, the FBI and DOJ will hear what she has to say," Blanche said.

One presumes that the Feds asked that question as they put her on trial, convicted her, and sentenced her to prison for 20 years.

And there's no way any Prosecutor would "own" her for their case as a prime witness. She is a liar with no credibility.

And instead of Trump flat-out distancing himself from the #2 child sex-trafficker in history, Trump says he "hasnt thought much about a pardon" for her, but does acknowledge that "he has the power to do so."

This is a far cry from saying, "Why would I pardon or commutate the sentence of a child sex-trafficker? Of course not!"

This is all just a charade for MAGA and a distraction.

Interestingly enough, MAGA is highly skeptical and distrusting of the Govt. And now theyre suppose to trust this "charade"?

Good luck with that.


Well I hope you are right, but I think my concerns are legit.

My thought on this discussion is the question, does Trump respect ethical boundaries? Given his past behaviors and actions, I would say, No. I to am concerned because he has backed himself into a corner with the MAGA faithful. The other question is what is he going to give the MAGAsphere to stop stop their backlash?
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movielover said:

wifeisafurd said:

Maxwell lawyer says:

1) She answered all questions from DOJ
2) Hasn't decided is she will testify before Congress
3) Looking for a pardon from Trump

https://politi.co/4kTveoT

I don' t have a good feeling about this - looks like a set-up. I suspect a WSJ retraction is coming among other things. We are going to get tired of hearing about Epstein as this is not going away. While this is consuming the media's oxogen, expect more controversial legislation eliminating spending that Trump does't like and other controversial executive orders all going under the radar.




You're OK w our $2 Trillion per year deficit?

Wow. Trying to shift the goalposts to Trump's multi-trillion dollar budget deficit reeks of absolute desperation. You really are in a panic.
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BearNIt said:

oski003 said:

BearNIt said:

oski003 said:

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bear2034 said:



He was in New York and Florida.. At least one of the underaged girls said she was groped by the Big Cheeto. Does anybody really think that this dirtbag who bragged about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed or said he would date his daughter, or said he would grab women by the privates, acted above board? This clown is fighting too hard to cover something up .


He did not brag about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed. I am sorry the liberals lied to you.

He specifically said on the Howard Stern Show in 2005, "he would go backstage while the girls were getting dressed and standing there with no clothes, claiming he was inspecting it". He said, "I sort of get away with things like that." Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona 2001 told CBS news that Trump came strolling right in during dress rehearsal while the girls were "half naked or topless."

I did mistake one fact. It was Miss Teen USA and not Miss Teenage World, my bad. Your comments? I sorry you continue to hide your head in the sand in the face of eyewitness accounts.


Miss USA, not Miss Teen USA. BIG DIFFERENCE.

I stand by my post as there were multiple witnesses both Teen USA 1997and Miss USA 2001 contestants who have told the same stories. Do you think age stopped him from going into these dressing rooms? He is a dirtbag and dirtbags like him could give a flying &@#$ about age.

It's ok with oski003 because… SEMANTICS!!!
concordtom
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oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

BearNIt said:

oski003 said:

BearNIt said:

bear2034 said:



He was in New York and Florida.. At least one of the underaged girls said she was groped by the Big Cheeto. Does anybody really think that this dirtbag who bragged about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed or said he would date his daughter, or said he would grab women by the privates, acted above board? This clown is fighting too hard to cover something up .


He did not brag about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed. I am sorry the liberals lied to you.

He specifically said on the Howard Stern Show in 2005, "he would go backstage while the girls were getting dressed and standing there with no clothes, claiming he was inspecting it". He said, "I sort of get away with things like that." Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona 2001 told CBS news that Trump came strolling right in during dress rehearsal while the girls were "half naked or topless."

I did mistake one fact. It was Miss Teen USA and not Miss Teenage World, my bad. Your comments? I sorry you continue to hide your head in the sand in the face of eyewitness accounts.


Miss USA, not Miss Teen USA. BIG DIFFERENCE.


Either is inappropriate and Trump knew so in his comments with stern


The lie you are parroting is much worse than the truth, even if both are inappropriate.


What lie am I parroting?
Please quote me.


My post:

"He did not brag about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed. I am sorry the liberals lied to you."

Your post:

"You are such a ******* fool. This particular post is eight years old and we have posted this story and this interview with Howard Stern here many many times.

You seriously insist upon lying."

Thanks.


You didn't identify a lie.
You identified a truth. I included the video of Trump bragging about going into dressing room.
You're on Ignore status for a reason.
DiabloWags
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

movielover said:


You're OK w our $2 Trillion per year deficit?

Wow. Trying to shift the goalposts to Trump's multi-trillion dollar budget deficit reeks of absolute desperation. You really are in a panic.


Yup.

He's posted 32 times today starting at 1:27 am and all through the wee hours of the morning.
He's definitely in a panic.

#triggeredbyepstein

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He has nothing tobworry about. The Supreme Court will back him, no matter what.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
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concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

BearNIt said:

oski003 said:

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He was in New York and Florida.. At least one of the underaged girls said she was groped by the Big Cheeto. Does anybody really think that this dirtbag who bragged about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed or said he would date his daughter, or said he would grab women by the privates, acted above board? This clown is fighting too hard to cover something up .


He did not brag about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed. I am sorry the liberals lied to you.

He specifically said on the Howard Stern Show in 2005, "he would go backstage while the girls were getting dressed and standing there with no clothes, claiming he was inspecting it". He said, "I sort of get away with things like that." Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona 2001 told CBS news that Trump came strolling right in during dress rehearsal while the girls were "half naked or topless."

I did mistake one fact. It was Miss Teen USA and not Miss Teenage World, my bad. Your comments? I sorry you continue to hide your head in the sand in the face of eyewitness accounts.


Miss USA, not Miss Teen USA. BIG DIFFERENCE.


Either is inappropriate and Trump knew so in his comments with stern


The lie you are parroting is much worse than the truth, even if both are inappropriate.


What lie am I parroting?
Please quote me.


My post:

"He did not brag about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed. I am sorry the liberals lied to you."

Your post:

"You are such a ******* fool. This particular post is eight years old and we have posted this story and this interview with Howard Stern here many many times.

You seriously insist upon lying."

Thanks.


You didn't identify a lie.
You identified a truth. I included the video of Trump bragging about going into dressing room.
You're on Ignore status for a reason.


A different dressing room than the one with underage girls. The details matter. You put the truth on ignore status.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearNIt said:

oski003 said:

BearNIt said:

oski003 said:

BearNIt said:

bear2034 said:



He was in New York and Florida.. At least one of the underaged girls said she was groped by the Big Cheeto. Does anybody really think that this dirtbag who bragged about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed or said he would date his daughter, or said he would grab women by the privates, acted above board? This clown is fighting too hard to cover something up .


He did not brag about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed. I am sorry the liberals lied to you.

He specifically said on the Howard Stern Show in 2005, "he would go backstage while the girls were getting dressed and standing there with no clothes, claiming he was inspecting it". He said, "I sort of get away with things like that." Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona 2001 told CBS news that Trump came strolling right in during dress rehearsal while the girls were "half naked or topless."

I did mistake one fact. It was Miss Teen USA and not Miss Teenage World, my bad. Your comments? I sorry you continue to hide your head in the sand in the face of eyewitness accounts.


Miss USA, not Miss Teen USA. BIG DIFFERENCE.

I stand by my post as there were multiple witnesses both Teen USA 1997and Miss USA 2001 contestants who have told the same stories. Do you think age stopped him from going into these dressing rooms? He is a dirtbag and dirtbags like him could give a flying &@#$ about age.

It's ok with oski003 because… SEMANTICS!!!


I wasn't talking to you because I don't expect you to comprehend the difference.
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oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearNIt said:

oski003 said:

BearNIt said:

oski003 said:

BearNIt said:

bear2034 said:



He was in New York and Florida.. At least one of the underaged girls said she was groped by the Big Cheeto. Does anybody really think that this dirtbag who bragged about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed or said he would date his daughter, or said he would grab women by the privates, acted above board? This clown is fighting too hard to cover something up .


He did not brag about going into the dressing rooms of The Teenage Miss World and seeing the girls half dressed. I am sorry the liberals lied to you.

He specifically said on the Howard Stern Show in 2005, "he would go backstage while the girls were getting dressed and standing there with no clothes, claiming he was inspecting it". He said, "I sort of get away with things like that." Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona 2001 told CBS news that Trump came strolling right in during dress rehearsal while the girls were "half naked or topless."

I did mistake one fact. It was Miss Teen USA and not Miss Teenage World, my bad. Your comments? I sorry you continue to hide your head in the sand in the face of eyewitness accounts.


Miss USA, not Miss Teen USA. BIG DIFFERENCE.

I stand by my post as there were multiple witnesses both Teen USA 1997and Miss USA 2001 contestants who have told the same stories. Do you think age stopped him from going into these dressing rooms? He is a dirtbag and dirtbags like him could give a flying &@#$ about age.

It's ok with oski003 because… SEMANTICS!!!


I wasn't talking to you because I don't expect you to comprehend the difference.

That's OK. Like you so frequently do, I was just butting into a conversation I hadn't been a part of up until that point.
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oskidunker said:

He has nothing tobworry about. The Supreme Court will back him, no matter what.

Wow, look who ventured over to OT - my old hoops board buddy!
Glad to have you dunking over here!
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Interesting.

If Trump can sue the Wall Street Journal for $10 BILLION over an alleged drawing and birthday "wish", why hasn't he sued Katie Johnson or producer Norm Lubow for slander and libel for this interview?




oski003
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DiabloWags said:


Interesting.

If Trump can sue the Wall Street Journal for $10 BILLION over an alleged drawing and birthday "wish", why hasn't he sued Katie Johnson or producer Norm Lubow for slander and libel for this interview?







Because fighting it would likely do more harm than good, especially since this Trump's opponent didn't make a huge deal out of this. Sweeping it under the rug was a better campaign strategy, and he was elected president.

Do you have any other questions? I am always happy to help. I helped an old lady cross the street the other day.
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When you totally "own" someone that "stalks" everyone of your posts . . . even at 6:47 AM on a Sunday.

Who knew that I could "rent" so much free space in someone's dome?

lol
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DiabloWags said:

When you totally "own" someone that "stalks" everyone of your posts . . . even at 6:47 AM on a Sunday.

lol



Thanks, but, by being both pompous and ignorant, you are incredibly easy to "totally own.".
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

When you totally "own" someone that "stalks" everyone of your posts . . . even at 6:47 AM on a Sunday.

lol



Thanks, but, by being both pompous and ignorant, you are incredibly easy to "totally own.".


I'm not the one that claimed that TESLA "beat" earnings last week and was up AH.
While the stock proceeded to tank 9%


That would be a highly ignorant poster named after the mascot of my alma-mater.








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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

When you totally "own" someone that "stalks" everyone of your posts . . . even at 6:47 AM on a Sunday.

lol



Thanks, but, by being both pompous and ignorant, you are incredibly easy to "totally own.".


I'm not the one that claimed that TESLA "beat" earnings last week and was up AH.
While the stock proceeded to tank 9%


That would be a highly ignorant poster named after the mascot of my alma-mater.








Stock was up on the ER. It went down because of poor forward guidance and has since rebounded such that it is up on the week.

Have you considered replacing yourself with an AI robot that knows how to read?
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Let me get this straight…

1. The files have been doctored to harm Trump.

2. If there was anything in the files that could harm Trump, Biden would have released it.

Got it.
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Deja vu!

It's day 155 of Patel's tenure, day 163 of Bondi's and day 175 of Trump's term!

Any news on the promised immediate release of the COMPLETE and UNREDACTED Epstein files?

Everything needs to be out there or something is being covered up by those currently in power.

I'm outta here for a week. Hopefully they release the files unredacted and there are no pardons of known sex traffickers in the meantime in exchange for information that's likely already in the files.

I'll check back!
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The Department of Justice has now announced there would be no further release of the Epstein files under the guise of protecting over a 1000 victims. These clowns pushed this conspiracy theories for years and made promises to their based and now they want to hide behind the victims. The MAGAsphere will ask for a sacrifice for being led by the nose with promises to release the Epstein files, and now nothing. Who are they kidding. the coverup is going to hurt them and Dems may release the file anyway when the midterm elections are finished. It appears that Massie and Kahn are confident that they can force a vote in the House making House members go on the record regarding release of the Epstein files which the MAGAshpere consider the holy grail of conspiracies. The Speaker of the House is tap dancing as fast as he can to prevent the files from being exposed. The Republicans over promised and now don't want to deliver as it will embarrassed their fearless leader. Like Kash Patel said, "release the Epstein files and show us who the Pedophiles are."

It appears now that there are efforts to use a convicted sex trafficker, Maxwell to testify after years in the hope that she will provide new information that can then be used to distract attention from a giant Republican cluster%&#$. The second in command at DOJ, Blanche , who characterized himself as a good friend of Maxwell's attorney is has now interviewed Maxwell who has been characterized as a liar. It appears that they are not even trying to hide the corruption. Are Republicans really going to be okay with their fearless leader extracting a quid pro quo from a convicted sex trafficker of children who was handed a 20 year sentence? Are they going to go into the midterms on a suicide mission?
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Haloski said:

Deja vu!

It's day 155 of Patel's tenure, day 163 of Bondi's and day 175 of Trump's term!

Any news on the promised immediate release of the COMPLETE and UNREDACTED Epstein files?

Everything needs to be out there or something is being covered up by those currently in power.

I'm outta here for a week. Hopefully they release the files unredacted and there are no pardons of known sex traffickers in the meantime in exchange for information that's likely already in the files.

I'll check back!

Where's f' n g Phase 2? Show us the binders with the Cheeto dusting!

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BearNIt said:

movielover said:

FTR Russia doesn't need ammunition and drones. They're now launching 400 drones a night at buckling Ukraine and reportedly making 1,000 a day.

Early in the war Russia obtained various drones by the thousands from Iran. Later they signed a deal where Iran provided Russia with drone building infrastructure and expertise to Russia. Iran even supplied the blueprints and technical support for drones. In essence.Russia's domestic drone production is the direct result of Iran's transfer of their drone expertise. It is said that one of the main drone producing factories is producing drones based on Iranian designs. The other aspect of this situation is that the Iranians are providing training to Russian troops on how to use the drones. In return Iran gets advanced Russian military technologies. I have to wonder if that means centrifuges for the enrichment of Uranium?


Russia has a whole range of drones, the Iranian drone they have used, the dorito-shaped Shahed powered by small 2-stroke engines was indeed transferred to Russia, who has integrated some upgrades into that design (guidance and targeting systems).

The US has recently produced its own copy of the Shahed drone, called LUCAS.



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DiabloWags said:

From what I've been reading in the WSJ lately, it would appear that they are holding steadfast and dug in for a fight.

By the way, here is what the Journal said in their "Review & Outlook" portion of their Opinion Section on Friday as a way to End the Epstein Follies:

"If Ms. Bondi and Mr. Patel are now telling the truth about the contents of the Epstein files, then what's needed are officials who will take the responsibilityand then take the heatfor declining to publish documents that could hurt victims and ruin reputations without a criminal case. It's too bad Mr. Trump didn't pick an Attorney General in the mold of Bill Barr, an experienced hand who could offer that kind of straight talk without worrying about the conspiracy-minded podcast attacks.

But perhaps Ms. Bondi and Mr. Patel could call a news conference, provide context on the mentions of Mr. Trump, and explain why releasing raw files could do more harm than good. Bring FBI deputy director Dan Bongino, if he'll show up. Then they and Mr. Trump could tell the public that the files didn't live up to the hype, including theirs before they took office, the case is closed, and that's that."







I'm not sure that Bill Barr is the one you want as AG for the Epstein case.

His father, Donald Barr, was the headmaster at the Dalton school who hired Jeffrey Epstein as a teacher, despite Epstein not having a college degree. He's connected.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-dalton-school-math-teacher-yearbook-photos-125122535.html
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TRUMP IS A LIAR!!!!!

News report:
President Donald Trump lashed out at a group of reporters pressing him about his prior relationship with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein on Friday and attempted to deflect their attention to former president Bill Clinton.

"You ought to be speaking about Bill Clinton, who went to the island 28 times," Trump told reporters, referring to the notorious private island where Epstein ran an underage sex trafficking ring. "I never went to the island."


Really?, I ask myself. So then I go to ChatGPT for a summary, as follows


Trump has apparently claimed that Bill Clinton went to Epstein's Island 28 times. What evidence is there for 28 trips?


ChatGPT response
Trump's claim that Bill Clinton visited Jeffrey Epstein's island 28 times is not supported by flight log evidence. Here's what we do know:

Clinton's Documented Flights on Epstein's Jet

Flight logs released in lawsuits and during Ghislaine Maxwell's trial show Clinton took at least 17 flights on Epstein's private jets between 2002 and 2003, after leaving office.
These flights included trips to Siberia, Morocco, China, and Armenia, often with aides like Doug Band and celebrities like Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker.
None of the logs show Clinton flying to Little St. James, Epstein's private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands.


Did Clinton Visit the Island?

Clinton's spokesperson has repeatedly stated he never visited Epstein's island and had no knowledge of Epstein's crimes.
Virginia Giuffre, an Epstein accuser, claimed she saw Clinton on the island, but did not accuse him of wrongdoing, and no corroborating evidence has surfaced to support that claim.
A former Clinton aide, Doug Band, claimed in a 2020 interview that Clinton visited the island in January 2003, but he did not accompany him, and this claim remains unverified.


What About the "28 Times"?

The number 28 appears to be Trump's own assertion, repeated during recent press interactions.
Earlier reports from outlets like Fox News and Gawker cited 26 flights, but those included multiple legs of the same trip, not necessarily 26 separate occasions.
Clinton's team has not objected to the release of Epstein-related documents and maintains that he has not been accused of any criminal activity.


So far, there's no verified evidence of Clinton visiting Epstein's island 28 times or even once based on flight logs or official records. The "28 times" claim appears to be politically charged rhetoric, not a documented fact.


TRUMP IS A LIAR!!!!!


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Donald Trump appears in Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs at least seven to eight times, based on records released during lawsuits and the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.

Details of Trump's Flights

Most flights occurred between 1993 and 1997
Routes were typically between Palm Beach, Florida, and Teterboro Airport in New Jersey
On some flights, Trump was accompanied by:
His then-wife Marla Maples
His daughter Tiffany Trump (as an infant)
His son Eric Trump
A nanny

One flight included Mark Middleton, a former Clinton aide.


Important Notes

No flight logs show Trump visiting Epstein's island in the U.S. Virgin Islands
Trump has not been accused of any criminal wrongdoing related to Epstein
He allegedly had a falling out with Epstein in the early 2000s and later banned him from Mar-a-Lago.

Trump has had his own private plans at his disposal, and there is no public flight log available for those potential trips.
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Melania was introduced to Trump through a friend of Maxwell/Epstein. I would not be surprised if Trump lets Maxwell walk.



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Trump getting height punked by that tall model.
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bearister said:

Trump getting height punked by that tall model.


High heels.

President Trump is spanking all the Congress critters and President's for over 50 years who let the Marshall Plan continue, and let the EU rip us off.

Same for China.

Same for peace deals / cease fire agreements.

Tariff Revenues are exploding and some businesses will relocate to America.
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Ghislaine Maxwell's Life of Secrets

https://tinabrown.substack.com/p/ghislaine-maxwells-life-of-secrets
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movielover said:


Tariff Revenues are exploding and some businesses will relocate to America.



You mean like how FoxCONN relocated to Wisconsin during Chump's first term?
Whatever happened to that $10 Billion investment and creation of 13,000 jobs?

Did you get duped?


 
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