chazzed said:
And it's simply comedic gold when he deadpans that he is an independent thinker.
Ok this is wildly inappropriate and insane. pic.twitter.com/Dbc0wovE0f
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) June 22, 2025
Iran has been engaged in these asymmetrical and/or proxy tactics for 40+ years, using proxies to attack Americans and American interests. Thousands of Americans have been killed. That is precisely why they cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. For too long, US leaders - of both parties - have ignored Iran's stated intentions and actions advancing those intentions. Hopefully that time is over.tequila4kapp said:Aside from hitting our bases in the region Iran has no choice but to respond with asymmetrical warfare. But it isn't like we created this problem with the attack - they were doing that already. See the news stories about sleeper cells, FBI arrests and one Iranian guy trying to hire someone to assassinate Trump. Also consider their nuclear program - apparently specialized needs for things like medical equipment require 20% uranium. Iran is the only non-nuke country enriching to weapons grade (60%-90%); they have hundreds of centrifuges buried hundred of feet underground below a mountain. We all know what was going on. Plain and simple, Iran is a bad actor.concordtom said:
Do y'all know the story called the Doolittle Raid, where US forces attacked mainland Japan 4 months after Pearl Harbor ?
It was a surprise which Japan didn't think possible.
Don't be surprised when Iran lashes back in unique or unknown ways.
Cal88 said:
Trump tearing into Massie is going to backfire badly.Ok this is wildly inappropriate and insane. pic.twitter.com/Dbc0wovE0f
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) June 22, 2025
Anarchistbear said:
This whole thing is about the TV moment
Big C said:
Sounds like Trump is learning on the job: being a "War President" takes the attention away from failing domestic policies.
sycasey said:Cal88 said:
Trump tearing into Massie is going to backfire badly.Ok this is wildly inappropriate and insane. pic.twitter.com/Dbc0wovE0f
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) June 22, 2025
Trump isn't wrong. MAGA is just about whatever Donald Trump wants. If you're against than you're not MAGA. It's the only qualification.
Cal88 said:sycasey said:Cal88 said:
Trump tearing into Massie is going to backfire badly.Ok this is wildly inappropriate and insane. pic.twitter.com/Dbc0wovE0f
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) June 22, 2025
Trump isn't wrong. MAGA is just about whatever Donald Trump wants. If you're against than you're not MAGA. It's the only qualification.
You do have a cult of personality in there, but that is not the end all be all. Trump launched his entire political career by attacking Jeb on the Forever War Bush legacy, he can't do a 180 without paying a heavy political price.
sycasey said:Cal88 said:sycasey said:Cal88 said:
Trump tearing into Massie is going to backfire badly.Ok this is wildly inappropriate and insane. pic.twitter.com/Dbc0wovE0f
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) June 22, 2025
Trump isn't wrong. MAGA is just about whatever Donald Trump wants. If you're against than you're not MAGA. It's the only qualification.
You do have a cult of personality in there, but that is not the end all be all. Trump launched his entire political career by attacking Jeb on the Forever War Bush legacy, he can't do a 180 without paying a heavy political price.
At least 90% will fall in line.
Cal88 said:
You do have a cult of personality………..
U.S. bombs Iran and then asks China to prevent any consequences? pic.twitter.com/Hfzg656TJC
— Spencer Hakimian (@SpencerHakimian) June 22, 2025
bearister said:Anarchistbear said:
This whole thing is about the TV moment
It was all about getting his Obama Situation Room photo:
He would have bombed Lichtenstein if he had to in order to get that photo…..which is going to end up on a T shirt selling for $65 and he will autograph the photo and put it in the trophy case with all the trophies of the club championships he allegedly won.
Anarchistbear said:
Classic Trump, says strikes are one and done while calling for regime change
Or perhaps most people understand there's a difference between bombing a country to prevent nuclear proliferation (and other similar military actions) vs launching a nation building war? Being against "forever war" doesn't mean foregoing all military action.sycasey said:Cal88 said:sycasey said:Cal88 said:
Trump tearing into Massie is going to backfire badly.Ok this is wildly inappropriate and insane. pic.twitter.com/Dbc0wovE0f
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) June 22, 2025
Trump isn't wrong. MAGA is just about whatever Donald Trump wants. If you're against than you're not MAGA. It's the only qualification.
You do have a cult of personality in there, but that is not the end all be all. Trump launched his entire political career by attacking Jeb on the Forever War Bush legacy, he can't do a 180 without paying a heavy political price.
At least 90% will fall in line.
Polling on Iran depends on question wording... but 79%+ of Dems, indies, & GOP were with Trump & opposed Iran getting nuclear arms.
— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) June 22, 2025
Further when asked if Iran was working to get nuclear arms: 69% of the GOP favored U.S. airstrikes & so did a plurality of all Americans. pic.twitter.com/duS7NIyUdH
Anarchistbear said:
Classic Trump, says strikes are one and done while calling for regime change
Trump knows exactly how to play people like you and the media.DiabloWags said:Anarchistbear said:
Classic Trump, says strikes are one and done while calling for regime change
Yup.
He sounds more and more like the neocon that he is.
MAGA got thoroughly DUPED.
Trump suggests regime change in Iran hours after Vance and Hegseth insisted that was not the plan
dajo9 said:Anarchistbear said:
Classic Trump, says strikes are one and done while calling for regime change
Israeli puppet, Donald Trump, has to adjust his stance after his failed strike
Jennings: This is not an escalation. This is a de-escalation. pic.twitter.com/Gewem7Xadi
— Acyn (@Acyn) June 22, 2025
chazzed said:
What are some other signs that 47 didn't think things through?
BearGoggles said:Or perhaps most people understand there's a difference between bombing a country to prevent nuclear proliferation (and other similar military actions) vs launching a nation building war? Being against "forever war" doesn't mean foregoing all military action.sycasey said:Cal88 said:sycasey said:Cal88 said:
Trump tearing into Massie is going to backfire badly.Ok this is wildly inappropriate and insane. pic.twitter.com/Dbc0wovE0f
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) June 22, 2025
Trump isn't wrong. MAGA is just about whatever Donald Trump wants. If you're against than you're not MAGA. It's the only qualification.
You do have a cult of personality in there, but that is not the end all be all. Trump launched his entire political career by attacking Jeb on the Forever War Bush legacy, he can't do a 180 without paying a heavy political price.
At least 90% will fall in line.
Trump has said for more than a decade that preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon was a vital American interest. Trump electing to bomb is not surprising, as much as you and other Israel haters try to pin this on Netanyahu.
DiabloWags said:
A non-stop 18-hour flight from Missouri on Friday.
The "reported" flights of B-2's to Guam were an intentional effort to misdirect attention.
They were decoys flying toward Guam in the Western Pacific.
DiabloWags said:Anarchistbear said:
Classic Trump, says strikes are one and done while calling for regime change
Yup.
He sounds more and more like the neocon that he is.
MAGA got thoroughly DUPED.
Trump suggests regime change in Iran hours after Vance and Hegseth insisted that was not the plan
Cal88 said:
Trump tearing into Massie is going to backfire badly.
No matter what you think of the Iran conflict, the Trump-Massie fight should surprise no one. Massie was anti-Trump in '16 (though grudgingly voted in the general), criticized him around "jAnUaRy SiXtH," and endorsed DeSantis in '24. This feud is about more than bunker busters.
— Michael Knowles (@michaeljknowles) June 23, 2025
DiabloWags said:
The Iranian parliament just voted to close the Straits of Hormuz. As expected.
We're about to see if Trump really knows how to play 4D-chess.
My guess is that yet another military "response" is forthcoming.
This is a major "choke" point for oil getting out of the Persian Gulf.
We're talking 1/5th of global oil supplies and 1/3rd of LNG.
bear2034 said:
You've accused Trump of being an isolationist and now he's a neocon? It looks like you're being duped again.
2034 said:
Oooh. Are the Iranians going to ask the Houthis rebels to attack the U.S. Navy again?