Iran. Oh, the irony...

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In reply to tequila4kapp • 12:47p, 6/21/26
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I cannot describe the degree to which I hate this MOU. Trump got bent over without getting a beer first. You cannot put soldiers lives at risk to end up with this.

The alternative here is a lot more soldiers (and even more civilian) lives and a global economic crisis.

I get that point of view. But consider: the "reported" MOU allows Iran to retain the status quo of their nuclear program. Iran promises not to build or procure nukes (we have to trust their promise not to build/buy nukes...which they were already breaking under JCOP). Iran will use "best efforts" to open the straight of Hormutz and they are disallowed from charging fees for 30 days. Support for regional terrorists isn't addressed. Iran's drone and missile programs are not addressed. What happened to the US providing all medical grade nuke materials forever? What happened to SoH being international waters and fees never being allowed? What happened to Iran giving up their nuke program? etc, etc, etc. This is a near total capitulation by the US. And we put people's lives in danger for this? Beyond absurd. F*** Trump.

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In reply to Anarchistbear • 12:51p, 6/21/26
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JD!

Why are we the only ones in the world sympathetic to them?

Why are we spending and providing our resources to them JD? The world knows they are unworthy of it
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In reply to Tedhead94 the II • 1:01p, 6/21/26
You are right but the back and forth is just going to lead to more spam. BS loves defending DJT

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In reply to SBGold • 1:07p, 6/21/26
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JD!

Why are we the only ones in the world sympathetic to them?

Why are we spending and providing our resources to them JD? The world knows they are unworthy of it


Because our political class demands it.
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1:45p, 6/21/26
Fairly close to perfect.

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In reply to oski003 • 1:54p, 6/21/26
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So you're already back tracking your 80% claim. The number will continue to decrease as the clean up process progresses.

You really think the same military that got into Venezuela and out with their "leader" the way we did weren't also able to decimate Iran's military complex?


Yeah. I do. Because we are capitulating. Iran is in a stronger position than they were before we fired a shot at them. End of conversation. If you think differently, seek help. Was it a good idea to capitulate, probably yeah. Is the deal we have now worse than the previous deal, definitely yeah = Was this a stupid arse decision in the first place? Also easy answer: yeah


No we aren't capitulating and no Iran isn't in a stronger position and if you think differently, seek help. You've been trained to hate everything Trump does. Don't like that he attacked Iran, fine but don't turn this deal into something it isn't. Iran is weaker militarily now than they have been, they have no path to a nuke, and the entire region is even more against them than ever.

Yes we bombed the crap out of Iran and what did we get? Iran is in a stronger position than when Col Bone Spur started this cluster&@#$ of an operation. Iran can now cut off a 25% of the world"s oil causing fuel prices to spike which puts enormous pressure on not only consumers in the U.S. but all over the world. Iran will now charge additional monies to tankers and ships passing through the straits. Iran through the U.S. can now exert influence over the actions of Israel such as the U.S.telling Israel to stop bombing Lebanon so some sort of deal can be reached. Last time I looked the Iranian missile and nuclear programs which we were told was obliterated are still huge issues that are not settled. Iran is going to get access to over $400 billion in investments and returned Iranian assets. Those assets would never be released unless the U.S. told those holding those assets it was okay to return them to Iran. Sanctions will be lifted and Iran will be able to sell oil. Iran is stronger than they were before the war and I haven't even touched on what the war did to relations to our allies in the Middle East and Israel. You don't have to win the fight, to win the war, just ask Vietnam


What ability has manifested whereas Iran can now suddenly cut off 25% of the world's oil? If they have this ability now, they certainly had it a year ago.


What ability has manifested you ask?
That would clearly be Donald Trump.
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2:16p, 6/21/26

As Trump was told by his non-Hegseth military advisors, Iran can control the Strait of Hormuz any time they want. And they don't particularly want to, unless provoked. But when provoked, they will do something that is seemingly against their economic interests,,, because they don't give a crap; they'd rather be the country that brought the US to its knees.

It didn't take Iran long to figure out Trump, whose negotiating tactics require a never-ending succession of newbies. Now they are just messing with him. What are we going to do, destroy them? They destroy themselves... for fun.
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5:37p, 6/21/26
*this* is how to manage fuel inconvenience in russian
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6:14p, 6/22/26


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:21p, 6/22/26
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There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...


Only Triple Trump supporters think he deserves "credit" for choosing to lose his war of choice over choosing to preside over a Herbert Hoover economy (his comparison, not mine).
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:46p, 6/22/26
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Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...


Only Triple Trump supporters think he deserves "credit" for choosing to lose his war of choice over choosing to preside over a Herbert Hoover economy (his comparison, not mine).

Partisan hypocrites will completely dismiss that the Democrat leadership is pushing for escalation in Iran.
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:58p, 6/22/26
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...


Only Triple Trump supporters think he deserves "credit" for choosing to lose his war of choice over choosing to preside over a Herbert Hoover economy (his comparison, not mine).

Partisan hypocrites will completely dismiss that the Democrat leadership is pushing for escalation in Iran.


whatabout that guy over there who had nothing to do with the start of the war or the negotiations to end the war?

Not that guys war. Not that guys economy. This is all on the Triple Trump supporters.
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In reply to dajo9 • 7:04p, 6/22/26
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...


Only Triple Trump supporters think he deserves "credit" for choosing to lose his war of choice over choosing to preside over a Herbert Hoover economy (his comparison, not mine).

Partisan hypocrites will completely dismiss that the Democrat leadership is pushing for escalation in Iran.


whatabout that guy over there who had nothing to do with the start of the war or the negotiations to end the war?

Not that guys war. Not that guys economy. This is all on the Triple Trump supporters.

Glass houses buddy, not a peep from Chuck, Nancy and co about this stupid war. No difference between them and the GOP AIPAC toadies when it comes to Forever War.
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In reply to Cal88 • 7:06p, 6/22/26
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...


Only Triple Trump supporters think he deserves "credit" for choosing to lose his war of choice over choosing to preside over a Herbert Hoover economy (his comparison, not mine).

Partisan hypocrites will completely dismiss that the Democrat leadership is pushing for escalation in Iran.


whatabout that guy over there who had nothing to do with the start of the war or the negotiations to end the war?

Not that guys war. Not that guys economy. This is all on the Triple Trump supporters.

Glass houses buddy, not a peep from Chuck, Nancy and co about this stupid war. No difference between them and the GOP AIPAC toadies when it comes to Forever War.


Still a Trump supporter, I see
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In reply to dajo9 • 7:11p, 6/22/26
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...


Only Triple Trump supporters think he deserves "credit" for choosing to lose his war of choice over choosing to preside over a Herbert Hoover economy (his comparison, not mine).

Partisan hypocrites will completely dismiss that the Democrat leadership is pushing for escalation in Iran.


whatabout that guy over there who had nothing to do with the start of the war or the negotiations to end the war?

Not that guys war. Not that guys economy. This is all on the Triple Trump supporters.

Glass houses buddy, not a peep from Chuck, Nancy and co about this stupid war. No difference between them and the GOP AIPAC toadies when it comes to Forever War.


Still a Trump supporter, I see


Not a partisan hack, I call it as I see it. Will go hard on Trump when he screws up, and give him credit when he doesn't.

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In reply to Cal88 • 7:15p, 6/22/26
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...


Only Triple Trump supporters think he deserves "credit" for choosing to lose his war of choice over choosing to preside over a Herbert Hoover economy (his comparison, not mine).

Partisan hypocrites will completely dismiss that the Democrat leadership is pushing for escalation in Iran.


whatabout that guy over there who had nothing to do with the start of the war or the negotiations to end the war?

Not that guys war. Not that guys economy. This is all on the Triple Trump supporters.

Glass houses buddy, not a peep from Chuck, Nancy and co about this stupid war. No difference between them and the GOP AIPAC toadies when it comes to Forever War.


Still a Trump supporter, I see


Not a partisan hack, I call it as I see it. Will go hard on Trump when he screws up, and give him credit when he doesn't.



Sure you do.
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In reply to Cal88 • 7:16p, 6/22/26
Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...

He deserves zero credit for cutting a bad deal to stop a war he started in the first place.

But yes, it is better if we end this sooner rather than later.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:27p, 6/22/26
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...

He deserves zero credit for cutting a bad deal to stop a war he started in the first place.

But yes, it is better if we end this sooner rather than later.

True. I'm not giving him "credit" per se, but I suppose he could've doubled down. Glad he isn't.

This war is 100% on Trump. Iran got the best of us. Still better, at this point, to reach some sort of agreement, though. "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em... "
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In reply to Big C • 2:36a, 6/23/26
Big C said:
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:


There is a chance that Trump could wait until after the elections to resume hostilities with Iran, or maybe just give it a couple of months for the global reserves to fill up a bit, or maybe he's really committed to shrugging off AIPAC and calling that thing off, in which case he deserves some credit. We'll see...

He deserves zero credit for cutting a bad deal to stop a war he started in the first place.

But yes, it is better if we end this sooner rather than later.

True. I'm not giving him "credit" per se, but I suppose he could've doubled down. Glad he isn't.

This war is 100% on Trump. Iran got the best of us. Still better, at this point, to reach some sort of agreement, though. "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em... "


The only reason he isn't doubling down is global oil reserves would run out and the global econony would crash. He's following the stock market. He said it himself.

Iran put Trump in a corner and is now busy extracting from him.
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