Iran. Oh, the irony...

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DiabloWags
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Thank You President Trump!

At least 6,000 sailors remain stranded aboard hundreds of ships in the Persian Gulf six months into the war with Iran, according to the United Nations' maritime agency.

The International Maritime Organization said Friday that 19 seafarers have been killed since the conflict began Feb. 28.

At least 70 attacks on international shipping have also been recorded in the Persian Gulf during the war, according to the agency.

The disruption comes as shipping through the Strait of Hormuz remains well below normal levels despite U.S. efforts to secure the critical waterway.

Before the war, roughly 20% of the world's traded oil and natural gas passed through the Strait of Hormuz.
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DiabloWags said:

Thank You President Trump!
At least 6,000 sailors remain stranded aboard hundreds of ships in the Persian Gulf six months into the war with Iran, according to the United Nations' maritime agency.

singalong time, cautioning sailors instead of cowboys. # gitty up
cbbass1
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BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

TrumpBear said:

DiabloWags said:

TrumpBear said:

dajo9 said:


In June, July, and August, and before, Trump said we already won the war.

He was correct. Time was still needed but the war is over and has been.


And yet Trump hasn't achieved any goals involving regime change or nuclear disarmament.
The goalposts kept getting moved to the point where there is no winning.



You're measuring success against regime change, which was never an official objective, and complete nuclear disarmament, which is broader than Trump's stated goal of preventing an Iranian bomb. Iran's military, naval and proxy capabilities have been substantially degraded, so claiming "nothing was achieved" is absolutely overstated.


I'm afraid you're terribly mistaken.
Regime change was clearly an official objective.




Trump says new call for regime change in Iran justified by 'imminent threats' to US - ABC News


Trump Talks Regime Change in Iran After Strikes, But History Shows That Could be Very Hard



You would be terribly mistaken, according to AI. He spoke about it but it was never made it an official objective.

Regime change was never an official U.S. war objective. Trump encouraged Iranians to challenge their government, but when initially explaining the campaign he identified preventing an Iranian nuclear weapon and degrading its missile program, not overthrowing the regime.

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-ordered-iran-strikes-thwart-tehrans-missile-program-2026-03-02/


Yeah, at the beginning of the war the official goal was clearly stated: Open up the Strait of Hormuz!

Oh wait...


And that goal is nearly achieved.

Soon we will all be able to congratulate the government for getting something we already had before the war started!


We did not have control of the strait before hand so I don't understand your post.

No one needed to control it because no one was trying to block it . . . until we decided to start a war.


A country was threatening nuclear war on America before we started a war too. Now they are in shambles and we control the strait. Win win win.

Who was threatening nuclear war on America?? Did I miss something??
BearlySane88
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cbbass1 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

TrumpBear said:

DiabloWags said:

TrumpBear said:

dajo9 said:


In June, July, and August, and before, Trump said we already won the war.

He was correct. Time was still needed but the war is over and has been.


And yet Trump hasn't achieved any goals involving regime change or nuclear disarmament.
The goalposts kept getting moved to the point where there is no winning.



You're measuring success against regime change, which was never an official objective, and complete nuclear disarmament, which is broader than Trump's stated goal of preventing an Iranian bomb. Iran's military, naval and proxy capabilities have been substantially degraded, so claiming "nothing was achieved" is absolutely overstated.


I'm afraid you're terribly mistaken.
Regime change was clearly an official objective.




Trump says new call for regime change in Iran justified by 'imminent threats' to US - ABC News


Trump Talks Regime Change in Iran After Strikes, But History Shows That Could be Very Hard



You would be terribly mistaken, according to AI. He spoke about it but it was never made it an official objective.

Regime change was never an official U.S. war objective. Trump encouraged Iranians to challenge their government, but when initially explaining the campaign he identified preventing an Iranian nuclear weapon and degrading its missile program, not overthrowing the regime.

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-ordered-iran-strikes-thwart-tehrans-missile-program-2026-03-02/


Yeah, at the beginning of the war the official goal was clearly stated: Open up the Strait of Hormuz!

Oh wait...


And that goal is nearly achieved.

Soon we will all be able to congratulate the government for getting something we already had before the war started!


We did not have control of the strait before hand so I don't understand your post.

No one needed to control it because no one was trying to block it . . . until we decided to start a war.


A country was threatening nuclear war on America before we started a war too. Now they are in shambles and we control the strait. Win win win.

Who was threatening nuclear war on America?? Did I miss something??


I don't need to repeat myself over and over, you can read my post history if you'd like that answer again.
Cal88
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cbbass1 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

TrumpBear said:

DiabloWags said:

TrumpBear said:

dajo9 said:


In June, July, and August, and before, Trump said we already won the war.

He was correct. Time was still needed but the war is over and has been.


And yet Trump hasn't achieved any goals involving regime change or nuclear disarmament.
The goalposts kept getting moved to the point where there is no winning.



You're measuring success against regime change, which was never an official objective, and complete nuclear disarmament, which is broader than Trump's stated goal of preventing an Iranian bomb. Iran's military, naval and proxy capabilities have been substantially degraded, so claiming "nothing was achieved" is absolutely overstated.


I'm afraid you're terribly mistaken.
Regime change was clearly an official objective.




Trump says new call for regime change in Iran justified by 'imminent threats' to US - ABC News


Trump Talks Regime Change in Iran After Strikes, But History Shows That Could be Very Hard



You would be terribly mistaken, according to AI. He spoke about it but it was never made it an official objective.

Regime change was never an official U.S. war objective. Trump encouraged Iranians to challenge their government, but when initially explaining the campaign he identified preventing an Iranian nuclear weapon and degrading its missile program, not overthrowing the regime.

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-ordered-iran-strikes-thwart-tehrans-missile-program-2026-03-02/


Yeah, at the beginning of the war the official goal was clearly stated: Open up the Strait of Hormuz!

Oh wait...


And that goal is nearly achieved.

Soon we will all be able to congratulate the government for getting something we already had before the war started!


We did not have control of the strait before hand so I don't understand your post.

No one needed to control it because no one was trying to block it . . . until we decided to start a war.


A country was threatening nuclear war on America before we started a war too. Now they are in shambles and we control the strait. Win win win.

Who was threatening nuclear war on America?? Did I miss something??


It was never about nuclear war on America, it is about Israel losing its nuclear monopoly and escalatory dominance over the region.
 
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