Soccer Topics: No goalies in the USA

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3:12p, 7/4/26
Did Paraguay just not play like this against the US? Kind of amazing we put up 4 goals on them.
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In reply to sycasey • 3:18p, 7/4/26
sycasey said:
Did Paraguay just not play like this against the US? Kind of amazing we put up 4 goals on them.

Not at all. They did not bunker against us. They played straight up because they did not properly respect us.
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In reply to sluggo • 3:21p, 7/4/26
sluggo said:
sycasey said:
Did Paraguay just not play like this against the US? Kind of amazing we put up 4 goals on them.

Not at all. They did not bunker against us. They played straight up because they did not properly respect us.

Haha, big mistake I guess.
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3:22p, 7/4/26
France seems to have no set plays off their corners. Oof.
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In reply to sycasey • 3:23p, 7/4/26
sycasey said:
sluggo said:
sycasey said:
Did Paraguay just not play like this against the US? Kind of amazing we put up 4 goals on them.

Not at all. They did not bunker against us. They played straight up because they did not properly respect us.

Haha, big mistake I guess.

Yes, at full strength we are a big league offensive team.
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In reply to sluggo • 3:35p, 7/4/26
sluggo said:
France seems to have no set plays off their corners. Oof.


never been good at those, except aganst Brazil in 98.

Floodgates are going to open on counters now.

Uzbek ref in over his head, letting Paraguay run roughshod and get away with all kinds of gamesmanship, like the 5 min disruption before the penalty was set. Thankfully he did make the right call on the Doue' trip.
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In reply to Cal88 • 3:37p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
sluggo said:
France seems to have no set plays off their corners. Oof.


never been good at those, except aganst Brazil in 98.

Floodgates are going to open on counters now.

I sure as hell hope so. Ref sucks. How could you miss that penalty? Obvious in real time at full speed.

France still has no idea what to do with a bunker, but they will hopefully not see another one.

I am more convinced than ever of my initial prediction that Spain will win the tournament.
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3:38p, 7/4/26
72 minutes in Stu Holden has said nothing of value.
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In reply to Cal88 • 3:41p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
sluggo said:
France seems to have no set plays off their corners. Oof.


never been good at those, except aganst Brazil in 98.

Floodgates are going to open on counters now.

Uzbek ref in over his head, letting Paraguay run roughshod and get away with all kinds of gamesmanship, like the 5 min disruption before the penalty was set. Thankfully he did make the right call on the Doue' trip.

Var made the call. He missed it. Should be all European refs, I don't care how that is seen.
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3:52p, 7/4/26
Paraguay playing like they're up by a goal, I guess their tank is empty.
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3:52p, 7/4/26
Forgot France had Cherki. Cherki plus Doue off the bench is absurd. Should make Cherki the #10, move Olise anywhere, and sit Barcola.
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In reply to Cal88 • 3:53p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
Paraguay playing like they're up by a goal, I guess their tank is empty.

After Enciso they have Almiron who is okay and a bunch of scrubs. Will be so happy to say good bye to them. Wish Germany was in this game.
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In reply to concordtom • 4:01p, 7/4/26
Suburbs of Paris


2 years ago:




2 weeks ago:




Today:





Sounds like pieces they used to do on why American inner city hoops ruled.
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4:09p, 7/4/26
The sooner that game is forgotten, the better. I guess it is very hot. 99 high in Philly today. Easy for me to complain from my air conditioned couch.

Last thought: The Paraguayan keeper is 26, 6'6'', and plays in ... Argentina, and not even a top team in Argentina. He looks like the keeper of the tournament. Someone should grab him.

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4:16p, 7/4/26
France got a nice taste of what it's like to play in CONMEBOL and CONCACAF. Lotta teams use these kinds of tactics.
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In reply to sycasey • 4:26p, 7/4/26
sycasey said:
France got a nice taste of what it's like to play in CONMEBOL and CONCACAF. Lotta teams use these kinds of tactics.

Are the refs that bad though? A normal ref would have dished out a half a dozen cards to Paraguay.
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In reply to sluggo • 4:29p, 7/4/26
sluggo said:
The sooner that game is forgotten, the better. I guess it is very hot. 99 high in Philly today. Easy for me to complain from my air conditioned couch.

Last thought: The Paraguayan keeper is 26, 6'6'', and plays in ... Argentina, and not even a top team in Argentina. He looks like the keeper of the tournament. Someone should grab him.



Players play out of their minds when they play for their country and in the World Cup, goalkeeping is a very mental game.
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In reply to Cal88 • 4:56p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
France got a nice taste of what it's like to play in CONMEBOL and CONCACAF. Lotta teams use these kinds of tactics.

Are the refs that bad though? A normal ref would have dished out a half a dozen cards to Paraguay.

South American football is violent and not much fun to watch. I did not enjoy the last Copa America. The ref was from Uzbekistan, don't know much about their football culture but I can guess.
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In reply to Cal88 • 4:56p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
sluggo said:
The sooner that game is forgotten, the better. I guess it is very hot. 99 high in Philly today. Easy for me to complain from my air conditioned couch.

Last thought: The Paraguayan keeper is 26, 6'6'', and plays in ... Argentina, and not even a top team in Argentina. He looks like the keeper of the tournament. Someone should grab him.



Players play out of their minds when they play for their country and in the World Cup, goalkeeping is a very mental game.

Nevertheless, if he is half as good as he looked he deserves a big promotion. I bet he gets it. Lots of Argentina players moved up in the world after the last WC.
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7:08p, 7/4/26
The sequence that led to Cape Verde's second goal.

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7:47p, 7/4/26
Paraguay did the impossible, they actually got me to root for France.
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In reply to sluggo • 7:54p, 7/4/26
sluggo said:
72 minutes in Stu Holden has said nothing of value.


I like him.
He's gotten better over the years.
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In reply to sluggo • 7:57p, 7/4/26
sluggo said:
The sooner that game is forgotten, the better. I guess it is very hot. 99 high in Philly today. Easy for me to complain from my air conditioned couch.

Last thought: The Paraguayan keeper is 26, 6'6'', and plays in ... Argentina, and not even a top team in Argentina. He looks like the keeper of the tournament. Someone should grab him.



Yes. Said that after the PK's

He's got money coming!!
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In reply to sycasey • 7:58p, 7/4/26
sycasey said:
France got a nice taste of what it's like to play in CONMEBOL and CONCACAF. Lotta teams use these kinds of tactics.

Although it's lamentable, certainly fun to see someone else get the treatment.

When some of these countries stop that act it will be a good day. That was abysmal of Paraguay. Shameful.
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:00p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
France got a nice taste of what it's like to play in CONMEBOL and CONCACAF. Lotta teams use these kinds of tactics.

Are the refs that bad though? A normal ref would have dished out a half a dozen cards to Paraguay.


It was bad but I've seen much worse.
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:03p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
The sequence that led to Cape Verde's second goal.



That last Argentinian defender did a good job of being a wussy and ducking out of the block.
The goalie told him, thanks, good job!
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In reply to sluggo • 8:05p, 7/4/26
sluggo said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
sluggo said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
sluggo said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
concordtom said:
Cal88 said:
concordtom said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
E) The American way is to keep playing until someone scores. Golden goal rules should be changed so that the first one to score in extra periods wins if this isn't the rule in the knockout rounds already.


FIFA last used the Golden Goal rule in a major tournament in 2004.

Why was it abolished?


It is deemed unfair, because the other team cannot respond. A bit like the difference between the sudden death NFL overtime back in the day vs the NCAA rules where both teams have a possession in OT, the latter rule is more "fair".

Not the answer I was looking for, nor the respondent.
Lone gripes about something already explained in this thread.

So I'll say it again. Golden goal caused refs to not want to call anything for fear of suddenly ending the game.

I never heard this before, but it makes total sense. Imagine the outrage in an elimination game where the golden goal is a result of penalty taken after the VAR shows the ball grazing a player's arm that sort of looks like it's in a natural position in one angle vs. another angle in the corner of the 18-yard box far away from the goal.

I hate the golden goal because soccer is a timed event and tiebreakers should model the standard game. This is why I also hate penalty kicks.

What would be the solution then if the score is still tied after extra periods?

Remove players like in hockey and play on.


What if teams took penalties like this?

My brother took a photo with Cobi Jones at the last US game. Sent me the photo and called him "Kobe." I have decided not to disown him, but I briefly considered it.

and he went to all those games?
Tell him to turn in those usmnt jerseys he likes to wear.

He'll probably say, "but oh, it was Siri!"
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In reply to sluggo • 8:10p, 7/4/26
sluggo said:

I am more convinced than ever of my initial prediction that Spain will win the tournament.


You dummy.
Spain is not going to eliminate Favorite France. USA will !!!
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In reply to concordtom • 8:32p, 7/4/26
concordtom said:
sycasey said:
France got a nice taste of what it's like to play in CONMEBOL and CONCACAF. Lotta teams use these kinds of tactics.

Although it's lamentable, certainly fun to see someone else get the treatment.

When some of these countries stop that act it will be a good day. That was abysmal of Paraguay. Shameful.


France played plenty of western hemisphere teams in the recent past, including Paraguay in the 98 World Cup, it was never as bad as today. Part of it was the peewee league referee from Uzbekistan.

Paraguay had a better team in 98, featuring keeper Chilavert, who made a clumsy statement earlier about Paraguay having to "face a squad from Africa" today.
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In reply to concordtom • 8:34p, 7/4/26
concordtom said:
sluggo said:

I am more convinced than ever of my initial prediction that Spain will win the tournament.


You dummy.
Spain is not going to eliminate Favorite France. USA will !!!


The women's world cup isn't till next year. ; )
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In reply to Cal88 • 9:15p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
concordtom said:
sluggo said:

I am more convinced than ever of my initial prediction that Spain will win the tournament.


You dummy.
Spain is not going to eliminate Favorite France. USA will !!!


The women's world cup isn't till next year. ; )


Haha
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In reply to Cal88 • 9:19p, 7/4/26
Cal88 said:
concordtom said:
sycasey said:
France got a nice taste of what it's like to play in CONMEBOL and CONCACAF. Lotta teams use these kinds of tactics.

Although it's lamentable, certainly fun to see someone else get the treatment.

When some of these countries stop that act it will be a good day. That was abysmal of Paraguay. Shameful.


France played plenty of western hemisphere teams in the recent past, including Paraguay in the 98 World Cup, it was never as bad as today. Part of it was the peewee league referee from Uzbekistan.

Paraguay had a better team in 98, featuring keeper Chilavert, who made a clumsy statement earlier about Paraguay having to "face a squad from Africa" today.

Hahaha
Just wait until they play Switzerland!

Pele once said that Africa would one day dominate the World Cup - he just didn't envision it quite like this.
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1:06a, 7/5/26
Tough game for England at the Azteca. The English have a tough history out west. Thinking Rolling Stones at Altamont, The Beatles in San Francisco, The Clash at the US Festival, and Black Sabbath living in Los Angeles.
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In reply to dajo9 • 5:57a, 7/5/26
apparently some Brit's think it's not fair to have to play there.

But this guy mocks them.

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