Anarchistbear said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
Maybe the US should have benched Balogun in defiance of FIFA and played with "joy" instead of ****ting the bed in embarrassing fashion
BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
sluggo said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
What is usually fun about sports debates is the game is played and you find out who was correct. But this debate is about an alternate universe where Trump is not involved and Balogun either is suspended or maybe his suspension is lifted anyway. I think this debate is not fun.
DiabloWags said:sluggo said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
What is usually fun about sports debates is the game is played and you find out who was correct. But this debate is about an alternate universe where Trump is not involved and Balogun either is suspended or maybe his suspension is lifted anyway. I think this debate is not fun.
Unfortunately it has become reality.
Trump has to put his "taint" on EVERYTHING.
Even World Cup soccer.
sluggo said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
What is usually fun about sports debates is the game is played and you find out who was correct. But this debate is about an alternate universe where Trump is not involved and Balogun either is suspended or maybe his suspension is lifted anyway. I think this debate is not fun.
BearNIt said:sluggo said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
What is usually fun about sports debates is the game is played and you find out who was correct. But this debate is about an alternate universe where Trump is not involved and Balogun either is suspended or maybe his suspension is lifted anyway. I think this debate is not fun.
sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:
We now play an open, attacking style. Almost all winning teams play that style. It takes more skill. Previously we played defensively and countered. That can win some games but does not make you a serious contender in the tournament. It is progress to get similar results playing this better style.
It doesn't matter what style the U.S. team plays. Until they have a lot more talent that is able to play major roles on teams in the top European Leagues, they are irrelevant in the World Cup.
I don't agree. The US is not irrelevant. With a lucky bounce here or there they could beat anyone, which was not always the case. Almost all of the players play in Europe, and many have prominent roles. Today Balogun scored for Monaco. He is their leading scorer and they are a top 5 team in France, a good league. The US gets in lots of good positions, but they don't make the best of those positions. I think they need two things to improve so that they are favored more often. First, they need to get better one-on-one on the dribble and making defense collapsing passes. Second, they need to be a little less naive defensively. They are often in position defensively but don't make the right fine movement to prevent goals. I think the next generation will be better in these areas and before you know it, the US will be even more competitive. They have come a long way in the 36 years I have been watching. I don't think that should just be dismissed.
Watch this, also from yesterday:
Cal88 said:
So Colombia-Switzerland looked like the one round of 16 game that was a snoozefest? Was mostly working during the game.
The Swiss are good at parking the bus, very organized, they might make Argentina work hard for their win. If the Argies score early though it will be a cakewalk for them.
If the game is still tight after the second hydro break, I hope their Turkish coach Yakin has learned something from the Egypt game and will push his guys forward or at least keep a counter threat.
FIFA is based in Switzerland, I wonder if that might help stem their ongoing bias towards Argentina.
Aunburdened said:sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:
We now play an open, attacking style. Almost all winning teams play that style. It takes more skill. Previously we played defensively and countered. That can win some games but does not make you a serious contender in the tournament. It is progress to get similar results playing this better style.
It doesn't matter what style the U.S. team plays. Until they have a lot more talent that is able to play major roles on teams in the top European Leagues, they are irrelevant in the World Cup.
I don't agree. The US is not irrelevant. With a lucky bounce here or there they could beat anyone, which was not always the case. Almost all of the players play in Europe, and many have prominent roles. Today Balogun scored for Monaco. He is their leading scorer and they are a top 5 team in France, a good league. The US gets in lots of good positions, but they don't make the best of those positions. I think they need two things to improve so that they are favored more often. First, they need to get better one-on-one on the dribble and making defense collapsing passes. Second, they need to be a little less naive defensively. They are often in position defensively but don't make the right fine movement to prevent goals. I think the next generation will be better in these areas and before you know it, the US will be even more competitive. They have come a long way in the 36 years I have been watching. I don't think that should just be dismissed.
Watch this, also from yesterday:
You can expand the tournament another 16 teams and create the illusion that the United States matters when it comes to the World Cup, but eventually you run out of body bag games like the ones Cal football schedules in September and Cal basketball schedules before conference play starts in January and then the truth comes out.
The Paraguay game was an illusion. That team was a disgrace that didn't belong in the round of 32 and only attempted to play a serious game of soccer once against the U.S. and got trounced. After that, they just mucked up games and barely snuck into the final round where France finally put that thug team away when they finally committed a foul in the box that actually got called.
Australia? Turkey? Bosnia-Herzogovnia? All irrelevant teams and Turkey beat our B team anyway when our defense showed the weaknesses that Belgium later put on full display. But per usual, the US goes up against a real European soccer side and they get exposed as not even being remotely in that team's league and that wasn't even one of the elite European teams.
Too many players on that team from non-Big Five soccer leagues. Tillman was consistently impressive though. Balogun is the best striker we ever had, but not a difference maker the way the elite strikers are.
sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:
We now play an open, attacking style. Almost all winning teams play that style. It takes more skill. Previously we played defensively and countered. That can win some games but does not make you a serious contender in the tournament. It is progress to get similar results playing this better style.
It doesn't matter what style the U.S. team plays. Until they have a lot more talent that is able to play major roles on teams in the top European Leagues, they are irrelevant in the World Cup.
I don't agree. The US is not irrelevant. With a lucky bounce here or there they could beat anyone, which was not always the case. Almost all of the players play in Europe, and many have prominent roles. Today Balogun scored for Monaco. He is their leading scorer and they are a top 5 team in France, a good league. The US gets in lots of good positions, but they don't make the best of those positions. I think they need two things to improve so that they are favored more often. First, they need to get better one-on-one on the dribble and making defense collapsing passes. Second, they need to be a little less naive defensively. They are often in position defensively but don't make the right fine movement to prevent goals. I think the next generation will be better in these areas and before you know it, the US will be even more competitive. They have come a long way in the 36 years I have been watching. I don't think that should just be dismissed.
Watch this, also from yesterday:
You can expand the tournament another 16 teams and create the illusion that the United States matters when it comes to the World Cup, but eventually you run out of body bag games like the ones Cal football schedules in September and Cal basketball schedules before conference play starts in January and then the truth comes out.
The Paraguay game was an illusion. That team was a disgrace that didn't belong in the round of 32 and only attempted to play a serious game of soccer once against the U.S. and got trounced. After that, they just mucked up games and barely snuck into the final round where France finally put that thug team away when they finally committed a foul in the box that actually got called.
Australia? Turkey? Bosnia-Herzogovnia? All irrelevant teams and Turkey beat our B team anyway when our defense showed the weaknesses that Belgium later put on full display. But per usual, the US goes up against a real European soccer side and they get exposed as not even being remotely in that team's league and that wasn't even one of the elite European teams.
Too many players on that team from non-Big Five soccer leagues. Tillman was consistently impressive though. Balogun is the best striker we ever had, but not a difference maker the way the elite strikers are.
People turn single games into huge narratives. The US played a better team who was on its game. The US can play better, but they were nervous or something. So the difference looked bigger than it is.
As to non-Big five leagues:
Freese (MLS, no)
Robinson(Premier, yes)
Ream (MLS, no, but played Premier until a year ago)
Richards(Premier,yes)
Freeman(La Liga, yes)
Adams(Premier, yes)
Tillman(Bundesliga, yes)
McKennie(Serie A, yes)
Pulisic(Serie A, yes)
Balogun(France, yes)
Dest(Netherlands, no, but has played in Spain and Italy)
I think you are just assuming that the leagues of the players are not good enough and don't actually know. We have players from Germany and the Premier league and France on the bench. We have Cardoso, a very good midfielder, who actually plays about half the time for Atletico Madrid, but he was injured. Tessman from France was cut. Musah from Serie A was cut.
Balogun is not an elite striker. No one thinks he is. But he is an improvement on 2022, and I hope we make incremental improvements at every position. No one is good enough to be totally safe.
It is not the US's fault the opponents were not better. They could definitely have beaten teams that were better than the ones they faced but were below Belgium. It is true there was only one good opponent.
I think the truth is more nuanced than you do. The US is still between 9th and 16th, so they should go out in the round of 16. I think they have gotten better since 2022, and there are about five players at the precipice who will help make them better in 2030. Someday we will break through to the quarters, I think.
sluggo said:DiabloWags said:sluggo said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
What is usually fun about sports debates is the game is played and you find out who was correct. But this debate is about an alternate universe where Trump is not involved and Balogun either is suspended or maybe his suspension is lifted anyway. I think this debate is not fun.
Unfortunately it has become reality.
Trump has to put his "taint" on EVERYTHING.
Even World Cup soccer.
Whether he is a part of all conversations is a choice. My choice is not to talk about him in this context. The US lost, but the Cup is still going and it is a beautiful thing. Let's think about how lucky we are that the world is at relative peace such that we are able to have the competition. It is not a given.
Aunburdened said:sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:
We now play an open, attacking style. Almost all winning teams play that style. It takes more skill. Previously we played defensively and countered. That can win some games but does not make you a serious contender in the tournament. It is progress to get similar results playing this better style.
It doesn't matter what style the U.S. team plays. Until they have a lot more talent that is able to play major roles on teams in the top European Leagues, they are irrelevant in the World Cup.
I don't agree. The US is not irrelevant. With a lucky bounce here or there they could beat anyone, which was not always the case. Almost all of the players play in Europe, and many have prominent roles. Today Balogun scored for Monaco. He is their leading scorer and they are a top 5 team in France, a good league. The US gets in lots of good positions, but they don't make the best of those positions. I think they need two things to improve so that they are favored more often. First, they need to get better one-on-one on the dribble and making defense collapsing passes. Second, they need to be a little less naive defensively. They are often in position defensively but don't make the right fine movement to prevent goals. I think the next generation will be better in these areas and before you know it, the US will be even more competitive. They have come a long way in the 36 years I have been watching. I don't think that should just be dismissed.
Watch this, also from yesterday:
You can expand the tournament another 16 teams and create the illusion that the United States matters when it comes to the World Cup, but eventually you run out of body bag games like the ones Cal football schedules in September and Cal basketball schedules before conference play starts in January and then the truth comes out.
The Paraguay game was an illusion. That team was a disgrace that didn't belong in the round of 32 and only attempted to play a serious game of soccer once against the U.S. and got trounced. After that, they just mucked up games and barely snuck into the final round where France finally put that thug team away when they finally committed a foul in the box that actually got called.
Australia? Turkey? Bosnia-Herzogovnia? All irrelevant teams and Turkey beat our B team anyway when our defense showed the weaknesses that Belgium later put on full display. But per usual, the US goes up against a real European soccer side and they get exposed as not even being remotely in that team's league and that wasn't even one of the elite European teams.
Too many players on that team from non-Big Five soccer leagues. Tillman was consistently impressive though. Balogun is the best striker we ever had, but not a difference maker the way the elite strikers are.
People turn single games into huge narratives. The US played a better team who was on its game. The US can play better, but they were nervous or something. So the difference looked bigger than it is.
As to non-Big five leagues:
Freese (MLS, no)
Robinson(Premier, yes)
Ream (MLS, no, but played Premier until a year ago)
Richards(Premier,yes)
Freeman(La Liga, yes)
Adams(Premier, yes)
Tillman(Bundesliga, yes)
McKennie(Serie A, yes)
Pulisic(Serie A, yes)
Balogun(France, yes)
Dest(Netherlands, no, but has played in Spain and Italy)
I think you are just assuming that the leagues of the players are not good enough and don't actually know. We have players from Germany and the Premier league and France on the bench. We have Cardoso, a very good midfielder, who actually plays about half the time for Atletico Madrid, but he was injured. Tessman from France was cut. Musah from Serie A was cut.
Balogun is not an elite striker. No one thinks he is. But he is an improvement on 2022, and I hope we make incremental improvements at every position. No one is good enough to be totally safe.
It is not the US's fault the opponents were not better. They could definitely have beaten teams that were better than the ones they faced but were below Belgium. It is true there was only one good opponent.
I think the truth is more nuanced than you do. The US is still between 9th and 16th, so they should go out in the round of 16. I think they have gotten better since 2022, and there are about five players at the precipice who will help make them better in 2030. Someday we will break through to the quarters, I think.
It make shock you to learn that I can read a list as well as you can and know exactly how many of those guys play for real leagues. What I don't know because I don't watch those leagues is how many of those guys play important roles on their Big Five teams vs how many are more mid-game substitutes.
It was definitely the best squad we've sent, but the difference was not as large as you purported it to be. I'd say maybe half the squad is pretty good and the other half is passengers. The back four is the weakest part of the team, but they could probably use some more creativity in the midfield as well. Squad as a whole needs more guys that can win the one on one matchups that can start to break a defense down.
sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:Aunburdened said:sluggo said:
We now play an open, attacking style. Almost all winning teams play that style. It takes more skill. Previously we played defensively and countered. That can win some games but does not make you a serious contender in the tournament. It is progress to get similar results playing this better style.
It doesn't matter what style the U.S. team plays. Until they have a lot more talent that is able to play major roles on teams in the top European Leagues, they are irrelevant in the World Cup.
I don't agree. The US is not irrelevant. With a lucky bounce here or there they could beat anyone, which was not always the case. Almost all of the players play in Europe, and many have prominent roles. Today Balogun scored for Monaco. He is their leading scorer and they are a top 5 team in France, a good league. The US gets in lots of good positions, but they don't make the best of those positions. I think they need two things to improve so that they are favored more often. First, they need to get better one-on-one on the dribble and making defense collapsing passes. Second, they need to be a little less naive defensively. They are often in position defensively but don't make the right fine movement to prevent goals. I think the next generation will be better in these areas and before you know it, the US will be even more competitive. They have come a long way in the 36 years I have been watching. I don't think that should just be dismissed.
Watch this, also from yesterday:
You can expand the tournament another 16 teams and create the illusion that the United States matters when it comes to the World Cup, but eventually you run out of body bag games like the ones Cal football schedules in September and Cal basketball schedules before conference play starts in January and then the truth comes out.
The Paraguay game was an illusion. That team was a disgrace that didn't belong in the round of 32 and only attempted to play a serious game of soccer once against the U.S. and got trounced. After that, they just mucked up games and barely snuck into the final round where France finally put that thug team away when they finally committed a foul in the box that actually got called.
Australia? Turkey? Bosnia-Herzogovnia? All irrelevant teams and Turkey beat our B team anyway when our defense showed the weaknesses that Belgium later put on full display. But per usual, the US goes up against a real European soccer side and they get exposed as not even being remotely in that team's league and that wasn't even one of the elite European teams.
Too many players on that team from non-Big Five soccer leagues. Tillman was consistently impressive though. Balogun is the best striker we ever had, but not a difference maker the way the elite strikers are.
People turn single games into huge narratives. The US played a better team who was on its game. The US can play better, but they were nervous or something. So the difference looked bigger than it is.
As to non-Big five leagues:
Freese (MLS, no)
Robinson(Premier, yes)
Ream (MLS, no, but played Premier until a year ago)
Richards(Premier,yes)
Freeman(La Liga, yes)
Adams(Premier, yes)
Tillman(Bundesliga, yes)
McKennie(Serie A, yes)
Pulisic(Serie A, yes)
Balogun(France, yes)
Dest(Netherlands, no, but has played in Spain and Italy)
I think you are just assuming that the leagues of the players are not good enough and don't actually know. We have players from Germany and the Premier league and France on the bench. We have Cardoso, a very good midfielder, who actually plays about half the time for Atletico Madrid, but he was injured. Tessman from France was cut. Musah from Serie A was cut.
Balogun is not an elite striker. No one thinks he is. But he is an improvement on 2022, and I hope we make incremental improvements at every position. No one is good enough to be totally safe.
It is not the US's fault the opponents were not better. They could definitely have beaten teams that were better than the ones they faced but were below Belgium. It is true there was only one good opponent.
I think the truth is more nuanced than you do. The US is still between 9th and 16th, so they should go out in the round of 16. I think they have gotten better since 2022, and there are about five players at the precipice who will help make them better in 2030. Someday we will break through to the quarters, I think.
It make shock you to learn that I can read a list as well as you can and know exactly how many of those guys play for real leagues. What I don't know because I don't watch those leagues is how many of those guys play important roles on their Big Five teams vs how many are more mid-game substitutes.
It was definitely the best squad we've sent, but the difference was not as large as you purported it to be. I'd say maybe half the squad is pretty good and the other half is passengers. The back four is the weakest part of the team, but they could probably use some more creativity in the midfield as well. Squad as a whole needs more guys that can win the one on one matchups that can start to break a defense down.
I don't read a list. C'mon. I know all this off the top of my head. My opinions may be wrong but that are not based on lack of information.
Freese (starts)
Robinson (starts, at least when not injured)
Ream (starts)
Richards (starts and is becoming a star)
Freeman (went late in the season, was mostly a reserve, started in MLS)
Adams (starts)
Tillman (huge signing but was benched)
McKennie (starts and is a star)
Pulisic (started and was one of the best players in Italy until he went into a slump and was benched)
Balogun (starts more often than not)
Dest (starts)
The whole squad needs to get better. I agree on the flaws you pointed out.
BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
Dwight Way said:
That was a very poor effort by Team USA.
They were outplayed.
We need more than just one star player who seems to be injury prone.
sluggo said:DiabloWags said:sluggo said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
What is usually fun about sports debates is the game is played and you find out who was correct. But this debate is about an alternate universe where Trump is not involved and Balogun either is suspended or maybe his suspension is lifted anyway. I think this debate is not fun.
Unfortunately it has become reality.
Trump has to put his "taint" on EVERYTHING.
Even World Cup soccer.
Whether he is a part of all conversations is a choice. My choice is not to talk about him in this context. The US lost, but the Cup is still going and it is a beautiful thing. Let's think about how lucky we are that the world is at relative peace such that we are able to have the competition. It is not a given.
Alan Shearer: “It’s complete b*llocks!” 🎙️
— Netflix UK & Ireland (@NetflixUK) July 8, 2026
Was VAR right to disallow Egypt’s wonder goal? 🇪🇬🇦🇷
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It wasn't his fault. Nobody was ever mad at Balogun. pic.twitter.com/zVIjIdZoiu
— Meidas_Charise Lee (@charise_lee) July 8, 2026
BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
I would have done the Trump dance too, it's funny lol. The team could have shown up and played better, that would have been helpful. Off the field stuff is great for the arm chair goalies, it's matters zero once you get on the field. I can't even believe you are still going on about this. It's over, we sucked and lost all on our own.
BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
I would have done the Trump dance too, it's funny lol. The team could have shown up and played better, that would have been helpful. Off the field stuff is great for the arm chair goalies, it's matters zero once you get on the field. I can't even believe you are still going on about this. It's over, we sucked and lost all on our own.
I thought you said you were done discussing this matter a few post ago but, here you are posting about it yet again. Perhaps the team would have played better if not for presidential Interference. I competed in soccer and ran track after high school and you don't give your opponent bulletin board material so they can get fired up. One has to wonder with the Olympics coming in 2028, if Col. Bone Spur won't insert himself into the various competitions like he did this World Cup. My guess is he won't be able to control himself and will attempt to bully the Olympic officials because he is such a narcissist and such a broken human being. I will be waiting to see if he can prove me wrong.
Anarchistbear said:Cal88 said:
So Colombia-Switzerland looked like the one round of 16 game that was a snoozefest? Was mostly working during the game.
The Swiss are good at parking the bus, very organized, they might make Argentina work hard for their win. If the Argies score early though it will be a cakewalk for them.
If the game is still tight after the second hydro break, I hope their Turkish coach Yakin has learned something from the Egypt game and will push his guys forward or at least keep a counter threat.
FIFA is based in Switzerland, I wonder if that might help stem their ongoing bias towards Argentina.
Numbered bank accounts
"You know what the fellow said in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
I would have done the Trump dance too, it's funny lol. The team could have shown up and played better, that would have been helpful. Off the field stuff is great for the arm chair goalies, it's matters zero once you get on the field. I can't even believe you are still going on about this. It's over, we sucked and lost all on our own.
I thought you said you were done discussing this matter a few post ago but, here you are posting about it yet again. Perhaps the team would have played better if not for presidential Interference. I competed in soccer and ran track after high school and you don't give your opponent bulletin board material so they can get fired up. One has to wonder with the Olympics coming in 2028, if Col. Bone Spur won't insert himself into the various competitions like he did this World Cup. My guess is he won't be able to control himself and will attempt to bully the Olympic officials because he is such a narcissist and such a broken human being. I will be waiting to see if he can prove me wrong.
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BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
I would have done the Trump dance too, it's funny lol. The team could have shown up and played better, that would have been helpful. Off the field stuff is great for the arm chair goalies, it's matters zero once you get on the field. I can't even believe you are still going on about this. It's over, we sucked and lost all on our own.
I thought you said you were done discussing this matter a few post ago but, here you are posting about it yet again. Perhaps the team would have played better if not for presidential Interference. I competed in soccer and ran track after high school and you don't give your opponent bulletin board material so they can get fired up. One has to wonder with the Olympics coming in 2028, if Col. Bone Spur won't insert himself into the various competitions like he did this World Cup. My guess is he won't be able to control himself and will attempt to bully the Olympic officials because he is such a narcissist and such a broken human being. I will be waiting to see if he can prove me wrong.
As stated, I've said all I'm gonna say on the topic. Who will you blame life's woes on once Trump isn't president anymore?
DiabloWags said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
I would have done the Trump dance too, it's funny lol. The team could have shown up and played better, that would have been helpful. Off the field stuff is great for the arm chair goalies, it's matters zero once you get on the field. I can't even believe you are still going on about this. It's over, we sucked and lost all on our own.
I thought you said you were done discussing this matter a few post ago but, here you are posting about it yet again. Perhaps the team would have played better if not for presidential Interference. I competed in soccer and ran track after high school and you don't give your opponent bulletin board material so they can get fired up. One has to wonder with the Olympics coming in 2028, if Col. Bone Spur won't insert himself into the various competitions like he did this World Cup. My guess is he won't be able to control himself and will attempt to bully the Olympic officials because he is such a narcissist and such a broken human being. I will be waiting to see if he can prove me wrong.
Thank You for this.
I too, wonder if Col Bone Spur can control himself when USA hosts the Olympics in 2028.
He interjects himself into everything, and then it dies (ETTD).
Signed,
Former Walk On Hurdler at Cal
1981
BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
I would have done the Trump dance too, it's funny lol. The team could have shown up and played better, that would have been helpful. Off the field stuff is great for the arm chair goalies, it's matters zero once you get on the field. I can't even believe you are still going on about this. It's over, we sucked and lost all on our own.
I thought you said you were done discussing this matter a few post ago but, here you are posting about it yet again. Perhaps the team would have played better if not for presidential Interference. I competed in soccer and ran track after high school and you don't give your opponent bulletin board material so they can get fired up. One has to wonder with the Olympics coming in 2028, if Col. Bone Spur won't insert himself into the various competitions like he did this World Cup. My guess is he won't be able to control himself and will attempt to bully the Olympic officials because he is such a narcissist and such a broken human being. I will be waiting to see if he can prove me wrong.
As stated, I've said all I'm gonna say on the topic. Who will you blame life's woes on once Trump isn't president anymore?
The next guy in office who-profits to the tune of $2.2 billion dollars, the guy who makes it all about himself as evidenced by putting his name and picture on a a building that represents justice, the guy who gets us into a needless wars when he promised he wouldn't, the guy who sexually assaults women, the guy who attempts to put his name on a building that is a memorial and named for a President of the United States w ho was assassinated, the guy who spends billions on a needless war while cutting food and healthcare for his own constituents, the guy who chooses fealty over competence, and the guy who doesn't values alliances. That's is who I will blame for life''s woes if I see that guy that is POTUS
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He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
I would have done the Trump dance too, it's funny lol. The team could have shown up and played better, that would have been helpful. Off the field stuff is great for the arm chair goalies, it's matters zero once you get on the field. I can't even believe you are still going on about this. It's over, we sucked and lost all on our own.
I thought you said you were done discussing this matter a few post ago but, here you are posting about it yet again. Perhaps the team would have played better if not for presidential Interference. I competed in soccer and ran track after high school and you don't give your opponent bulletin board material so they can get fired up. One has to wonder with the Olympics coming in 2028, if Col. Bone Spur won't insert himself into the various competitions like he did this World Cup. My guess is he won't be able to control himself and will attempt to bully the Olympic officials because he is such a narcissist and such a broken human being. I will be waiting to see if he can prove me wrong.
As stated, I've said all I'm gonna say on the topic. Who will you blame life's woes on once Trump isn't president anymore?
The next guy in office who-profits to the tune of $2.2 billion dollars, the guy who makes it all about himself as evidenced by putting his name and picture on a a building that represents justice, the guy who gets us into a needless wars when he promised he wouldn't, the guy who sexually assaults women, the guy who attempts to put his name on a building that is a memorial and named for a President of the United States w ho was assassinated, the guy who spends billions on a needless war while cutting food and healthcare for his own constituents, the guy who chooses fealty over competence, and the guy who doesn't values alliances. That's is who I will blame for life''s woes if I see that guy that is POTUS
This is a soccer thread, take your outrage to one of the 30,000 Trump threads.
BearNlt said:
I was a Triple Jumper.
BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:BearNIt said:BearlySane88 said:oski003 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:oski003 said:BearNIt said:
He couldn't help himself and put his chubby thumb on the scale, called the head of FIFA and got a red card lifted. This will taint the U.S. national team's run in the World Cup going forward. Will the team's hard work be celebrated or will this World Cup be remembered for US presidential interference?
As a non-TDS afflicted soccer fan, I am glad our president made the call asking for the red card to be reviewed. The card should never have been called based on slow mo and still images that made the incident look way worse than it was, which is illegal VAR procedure by FIFA rules. Hopefully, others can also look past their bias and see the facts for what they are.
FYI - Governments have been strictly prohibited from directly interfering with FIFA on things like referee decisions, with penalties being dished out to soccer federations whose government interfered.
AI Overview
Under FIFA Statutes, national governments are strictly prohibited from directly interfering in the internal operations, elections, or disciplinary decisions of football associations. Member states that violate this rule face immediate penalties, including bans on national teams and club participation in all international competitions. [1, 2]
Enforcement of the Rule
FIFA requires all member associations to manage their affairs independently and without political influence (Articles 2(2) and 15(c)). If a government dissolves a federation board, attempts a hostile takeover, or overrides refereeing decisions, FIFA regularly steps in to suspend the offending country. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Nations that have historically faced World Cup or international bans due to political meddling include: [1]Recent Controversies
- Nepal (Suspended over government interference in the football federation)
- Pakistan and Chad (Banned for government interference and hostile takeovers)
- Mali (Suspended after its sports minister dissolved the executive committee of the national federation)
- Kenya (Suspended by FIFA when the government dissolved the football federation board)
- Kuwait, Indonesia, Iraq, and Nigeria (All previously sanctioned for government attempts to control or dissolve their football associations) [1, 2, 3, 4]
While FIFA enforces these guidelines globally, the strictness of the rule occasionally sparks controversy. High-profile interventionssuch as when the White House directly lobbied FIFA to suspend an automatic red-card ban for U.S. striker Folarin Balogunhave led to accusations of political favoritism and inconsistency in how FIFA applies its disciplinary rules. [1, 2, 3, 4]
It was a decision made by an 18 person board. Not Trump. Who cares, let's beat Belgium.
Since Belgium is being a scared, whiny *** about this, let's rename Belgian Waffles to Freedom Waffles!
I've always felt that I want my teams to play and beat the best version of the other team, not a water downed or injured version. Never understand people complaining about things like this
BALCO, Barry Bonds, and Steroids. Putting your thumb on the scale is putting your thumb on the scales. No athlete who believes in fairness and his own ability would be proud of this. This is a stain on U.S. Soccer when it didn't need to be.
It's really not. Nothing against the rules happened. Move on.
Did you ever compete in sports at the college or pro level? You want to compete based on your own skill and not because a politician or administrator decided to put his thumb on the scales. That is the difference.
Yep and as I said earlier, I'd always want to face the other team's best players. You're making it seem like somehow Belgium has to play at a disadvantage, they don't. I'm done going on about this, it's over to me.
It's not about Belgium it is about the U.S. National Team and what Col. Bone Spur did. He pissed off the Belgium team, gave them bulletin board material and the results and the celebrations speak for themselves. The great thing is he will never get a chance to do this again.
Belgium didn't need bulletin board material to show up for the World Cup. It had zero impact on the outcome of the game, we were smoked and outclassed.
I'm going to say this if you don't think that what Col. Bone Spur did gave Belgium a kick in the ass to beat and embarrass the U.S. National team then just look at Belgium's celebrations and the comment sections of various Sporting publications around the world, they speak volumes. He didn't just interfere, he stole the joy away from the U.S. National Soccer Team, and instead of the team being celebrated for their accomplishments, the world and fans here will remember what Col.Bone Spur did.
I would have done the Trump dance too, it's funny lol. The team could have shown up and played better, that would have been helpful. Off the field stuff is great for the arm chair goalies, it's matters zero once you get on the field. I can't even believe you are still going on about this. It's over, we sucked and lost all on our own.
I thought you said you were done discussing this matter a few post ago but, here you are posting about it yet again. Perhaps the team would have played better if not for presidential Interference. I competed in soccer and ran track after high school and you don't give your opponent bulletin board material so they can get fired up. One has to wonder with the Olympics coming in 2028, if Col. Bone Spur won't insert himself into the various competitions like he did this World Cup. My guess is he won't be able to control himself and will attempt to bully the Olympic officials because he is such a narcissist and such a broken human being. I will be waiting to see if he can prove me wrong.
As stated, I've said all I'm gonna say on the topic. Who will you blame life's woes on once Trump isn't president anymore?
The next guy in office who-profits to the tune of $2.2 billion dollars, the guy who makes it all about himself as evidenced by putting his name and picture on a a building that represents justice, the guy who gets us into a needless wars when he promised he wouldn't, the guy who sexually assaults women, the guy who attempts to put his name on a building that is a memorial and named for a President of the United States w ho was assassinated, the guy who spends billions on a needless war while cutting food and healthcare for his own constituents, the guy who chooses fealty over competence, and the guy who doesn't values alliances. That's is who I will blame for life''s woes if I see that guy that is POTUS
This is a soccer thread, take your outrage to one of the 30,000 Trump threads.
