Another Bear said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Bring back mandatory life sentences for utter stupidity.

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It';s not just Mexicans that are part of the immigration crisis. It's the New Mexicans. We gotta keep them out of our country.

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So you don't like Mexicans?

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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Another Bear said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Bring back mandatory life sentences for utter stupidity.

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It';s not just Mexicans that are part of the immigration crisis. It's the New Mexicans. We gotta keep them out of our country.

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So you don't like Mexicans?

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bearister said:

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Another Bear said:

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What obstruction of justice looks like in real time, executed by 30 GOP house members. October 23, 2019.

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Reality check: Closed-door hearings are routine for committees, which include both Republicans and Democrats.

As former Rep. Trey Gowdy told former Rep. Darrell Issa when barring him from a Benghazi hearing in 2015, non-committee members aren't allowed, and "those are the rules and we have to follow them, no exceptions made." Axios

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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It';s not just Mexicans that are part of the immigration crisis. It's the New Mexicans. We gotta keep them out of our country.

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sycasey said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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It';s not just Mexicans that are part of the immigration crisis. It's the New Mexicans. We gotta keep them out of our country.

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I'm not saying New Mexico is full of criminals, but . . .

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Another Bear said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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Another Bear said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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Bring back mandatory life sentences for utter stupidity.

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It';s not just Mexicans that are part of the immigration crisis. It's the New Mexicans. We gotta keep them out of our country.

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So you don't like Mexicans?

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Nice self-portrait there Professor.

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dajo9 said:

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Sad that humor like that gets good play but when Hillary calmly and firmly explained to the country in 2016 that Russia was working to get Trump elected she was widely criticized.

Idiocracy

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I don't disagree, but it is a political campaign. They kept saying people who knew the real Hillary personally loved her, but they spent 26 years trying to keep her personality from coming through. She was extremely guarded and fearful of being or doing things that a woman can't get away with. She didn't connect to the voters and like it or not, that is important. Would this type of humor have worked? I don't know. But at least she could have lost knowing she did so being who she was.

Remember two of the key points in Bill's campaign was saxophone on Arsenio Hall and boxers or briefs on MTV. Bill won because voters thought he "feels your pain".

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dajo9 said:

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OaktownBear said:

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dajo9 said:

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Sad that humor like that gets good play but when Hillary calmly and firmly explained to the country in 2016 that Russia was working to get Trump elected she was widely criticized.

Idiocracy

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I don't disagree, but it is a political campaign. They kept saying people who knew the real Hillary personally loved her, but they spent 26 years trying to keep her personality from coming through. She was extremely guarded and fearful of being or doing things that a woman can't get away with. She didn't connect to the voters and like it or not, that is important. Would this type of humor have worked? I don't know. But at least she could have lost knowing she did so being who she was.

Remember two of the key points in Bill's campaign was saxophone on Arsenio Hall and boxers or briefs on MTV. Bill won because voters thought he "feels your pain".

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I dont know Hillary's real personality but I do know this:
1- Many millions of dollars have been spent to publicly trash her since 1992.
2- Hillary Clinton is the most investigated and vindicated person in the history of the world.
3- The people spending the millions and running the phony investigations have never been held to account formally or just in the public eye.

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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dajo9 said:

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OaktownBear said:

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dajo9 said:

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Sad that humor like that gets good play but when Hillary calmly and firmly explained to the country in 2016 that Russia was working to get Trump elected she was widely criticized.

Idiocracy

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I don't disagree, but it is a political campaign. They kept saying people who knew the real Hillary personally loved her, but they spent 26 years trying to keep her personality from coming through. She was extremely guarded and fearful of being or doing things that a woman can't get away with. She didn't connect to the voters and like it or not, that is important. Would this type of humor have worked? I don't know. But at least she could have lost knowing she did so being who she was.

Remember two of the key points in Bill's campaign was saxophone on Arsenio Hall and boxers or briefs on MTV. Bill won because voters thought he "feels your pain".

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I dont know Hillary's real personality but I do know this:
1- Many millions of dollars have been spent to publicly trash her since 1992.
2- Hillary Clinton is the most investigated and vindicated person in the history of the world.
3- The people spending the millions and running the phony investigations have never been held to account formally or just in the public eye.

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4. She is the worst campaigner in the history of the presidential election. Was only able to win the Democratic nomination by having the party infrastructure give her every possible benefit, then managed to blow an easy victory to a crackpot by giving the people not one good reason to believe she was ever going to do anything for anybody other than her rich white investment banker buddies.

She has never earned anything she's gotten in the political world and constantly assumed it would all be gifted her. I cry for the country being subjected to Trump, but I have zero tears for her. She fully deserves to be the political joke that she will be for all time for losing to this clown.

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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...she ..then managed to blow an easy victory to a crackpot by giving the people not one good reason to believe she was ever going to do anything for anybody other than her rich white investment banker buddies....

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If the last transcript is any indication, I'm not sure the Republicans actually want these hearings taking place in public.

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If the last transcript is any indication, I'm not sure the Republicans actually want these hearings taking place in public.

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There are full transcripts of these private hearings? Where can I find them?

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He's referring to the transcriptorandum released by the White House of the "perfect" call.

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I thought he was referring to the transcript of Taylor's opening statement, which conveniently has been broadcast to the public, unlike the rest of his testimony. Schiff leaks. AB loves the strategy.

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If you want to bet that the public testimony will be any better for Trump, I will happily take that bet.

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Forty-seven Republican lawmakers from three House committees Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight have been allowed to attend and participate in all of the depositions of the eight diplomats and government officials brought in to testify so far. The 57 Democrats from those three committees also may attend, but no other lawmakers from either party may enter.

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Anywhere from about six to several dozen GOP members have shown up each day, sometimes walking in and out of daylong depositions, usually slightly fewer than the number of Democrats in attendance, according to several lawmakers in the room.

Some of the president's strongest allies, Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.), have been in the room for nearly every minute of the depositions, according to GOP aides. Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), former chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus and a Trump ally, is there nearly as often. The trio have asked the majority of the questions on behalf of Republican members, Rouda said.

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House Intelligence Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank) has vowed to release the transcripts of the depositions at some point and to hold public hearings, though so far he has not signaled when that might be.

The majority of the questioning at the hearings is done by staff lawyers, with occasional interruptions from lawmakers, according to several people in the room. Democratic lawyers get the first hour of questioning, followed by an hour from Republicans. They continue in that cycle in 45-minute increments with occasional breaks.

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Unit2Sucks said:

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sycasey said:

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I thought he was referring to the transcript of Taylor's opening statement, which conveniently has been broadcast to the public, unlike the rest of his testimony. Schiff leaks. AB loves the strategy.

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If you want to bet that the public testimony will be any better for Trump, I will happily take that bet.

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Then the republicans wouldn't be able to pretend that they haven't had an opportunity to participate in the process. If people bothered to find out the truth, they would learn that republicans are being provided the opportunity to ask questions in these closed-door hearings with equal time.

If oski003 were genuinely interested in having a discussion about this, he wouldn't choose to ignore information and play Socrates.

Here is some more info from the failing LA Times:

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Forty-seven Republican lawmakers from three House committees Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight have been allowed to attend and participate in all of the depositions of the eight diplomats and government officials brought in to testify so far. The 57 Democrats from those three committees also may attend, but no other lawmakers from either party may enter.

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Anywhere from about six to several dozen GOP members have shown up each day, sometimes walking in and out of daylong depositions, usually slightly fewer than the number of Democrats in attendance, according to several lawmakers in the room.

Some of the president's strongest allies, Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.), have been in the room for nearly every minute of the depositions, according to GOP aides. Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), former chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus and a Trump ally, is there nearly as often. The trio have asked the majority of the questions on behalf of Republican members, Rouda said.

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House Intelligence Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank) has vowed to release the transcripts of the depositions at some point and to hold public hearings, though so far he has not signaled when that might be.

The majority of the questioning at the hearings is done by staff lawyers, with occasional interruptions from lawmakers, according to several people in the room. Democratic lawyers get the first hour of questioning, followed by an hour from Republicans. They continue in that cycle in 45-minute increments with occasional breaks.

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Bull***** Don't assume. I question the leaks. Obviously some Republicans get to be there. This is a secure room. Why does the media get to blast Taylor's opening statement.

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I thought you said you wanted more public disclosure. Why does the disclosure of this information bother you?

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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I thought he was referring to the transcript of Taylor's opening statement, which conveniently has been broadcast to the public, unlike the rest of his testimony. Schiff leaks. AB loves the strategy.

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If you want to bet that the public testimony will be any better for Trump, I will happily take that bet.

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Then the republicans wouldn't be able to pretend that they haven't had an opportunity to participate in the process. If people bothered to find out the truth, they would learn that republicans are being provided the opportunity to ask questions in these closed-door hearings with equal time.

If oski003 were genuinely interested in having a discussion about this, he wouldn't choose to ignore information and play Socrates.

Here is some more info from the failing LA Times:

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Forty-seven Republican lawmakers from three House committees Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight have been allowed to attend and participate in all of the depositions of the eight diplomats and government officials brought in to testify so far. The 57 Democrats from those three committees also may attend, but no other lawmakers from either party may enter.

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Anywhere from about six to several dozen GOP members have shown up each day, sometimes walking in and out of daylong depositions, usually slightly fewer than the number of Democrats in attendance, according to several lawmakers in the room.

Some of the president's strongest allies, Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.), have been in the room for nearly every minute of the depositions, according to GOP aides. Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), former chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus and a Trump ally, is there nearly as often. The trio have asked the majority of the questions on behalf of Republican members, Rouda said.

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House Intelligence Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank) has vowed to release the transcripts of the depositions at some point and to hold public hearings, though so far he has not signaled when that might be.

The majority of the questioning at the hearings is done by staff lawyers, with occasional interruptions from lawmakers, according to several people in the room. Democratic lawyers get the first hour of questioning, followed by an hour from Republicans. They continue in that cycle in 45-minute increments with occasional breaks.

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Bull***** Don't assume. I question the leaks. Obviously some Republicans get to be there. This is a secure room. Why does the media get to blast Taylor's opening statement.

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Can you point to your complaints about Republicans selectively leaking info from the Benghazi and Email investigations. If not, you should go ahead and keep your mouth shut about this.

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