okaydo said:MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
You're on record as supporting political violence, so thanks for weighing in.
I never defend violence.
okaydo said:MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
You're on record as supporting political violence, so thanks for weighing in.
I'm not sure how your video is relevant here. Are you saying Pelosi was in favor of rioting in Seattle? Or Okaydo?MinotStateBeav said:okaydo said:MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
You're on record as supporting political violence, so thanks for weighing in.
I never defend violence.
Biggest purveyors of violence always point to someone else.Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm not sure how your video is relevant here. Are you saying Pelosi was in favor of rioting in Seattle? Or Okaydo?MinotStateBeav said:okaydo said:MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
You're on record as supporting political violence, so thanks for weighing in.
I never defend violence.
BearFarce always had lots of video of the Pelosi driveway including poop and vandalism. I wonder where he was this morning?
MinotStateBeav said:
I never defend violence.
MinotStateBeav said:Biggest purveyors of violence always point to someone else.Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm not sure how your video is relevant here. Are you saying Pelosi was in favor of rioting in Seattle? Or Okaydo?MinotStateBeav said:okaydo said:MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
You're on record as supporting political violence, so thanks for weighing in.
I never defend violence.
BearFarce always had lots of video of the Pelosi driveway including poop and vandalism. I wonder where he was this morning?
Dude, seriously get a hold of yourself. Glib snide partisan jabs on the heels of scary violence is disgusting. I know these aren't really your values. Be enough of a human to rise above what tribalism is doing to your brain. Seriously, knock it off.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
hrmmm no i don't think i will. I distinctly remember you clowns celebrating Rand Paul being assaulted MULTIPLE times. Feel free to pull up news articles about dems mocking him.blungld said:Dude, seriously get a hold of yourself. Glib snide partisan jabs on the heels of scary violence is disgusting. I know these aren't really your values. Be enough of a human to rise above what tribalism is doing to your brain. Seriously, knock it off.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
Mods please. We have another poster here who has and is crossing the line (especially this last month). He doesn't seem to be able to self-regulate or contribute non-trolling, non-hateful posts. He is strictly insults and arguments and just keeps going further. It's time to step in and add him to the list of the banned.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
"Protests"...you see any protesters there?concordtom said:MinotStateBeav said:Biggest purveyors of violence always point to someone else.Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm not sure how your video is relevant here. Are you saying Pelosi was in favor of rioting in Seattle? Or Okaydo?MinotStateBeav said:okaydo said:MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
You're on record as supporting political violence, so thanks for weighing in.
I never defend violence.
BearFarce always had lots of video of the Pelosi driveway including poop and vandalism. I wonder where he was this morning?
Which seems to be exactly what you have done by including a video of Seattle protests/violence in your weak statement above.
What insult did I use? clown? That hurt you? lol.blungld said:Mods please. We have another poster here who has and is crossing the line (especially this last month). He doesn't seem to be able to self-regulate or contribute non-trolling, non-hateful posts. He is strictly insults and arguments and just keeps going further. It's time to step in and add him to the list of the banned.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
Whatabout....?MinotStateBeav said:hrmmm no i don't think i will. I distinctly remember you clowns celebrating Rand Paul being assaulted MULTIPLE times. Feel free to pull up news articles about dems mocking him.blungld said:Dude, seriously get a hold of yourself. Glib snide partisan jabs on the heels of scary violence is disgusting. I know these aren't really your values. Be enough of a human to rise above what tribalism is doing to your brain. Seriously, knock it off.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
blungld said:Mods please. We have another poster here who has and is crossing the line (especially this last month). He doesn't seem to be able to self-regulate or contribute non-trolling, non-hateful posts. He is strictly insults and arguments and just keeps going further. It's time to step in and add him to the list of the banned.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
blungld said:Dude, seriously get a hold of yourself. Glib snide partisan jabs on the heels of scary violence is disgusting. I know these aren't really your values. Be enough of a human to rise above what tribalism is doing to your brain. Seriously, knock it off.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
No. That didn't hurt me. But I take it that your defensive reaction means that you know inside that you are going too far and don't like this side of you. Maybe instead of the reflex to defend yourself and just go further, be a bigger man and apologize (maybe that is a bridge too far?) or at the very least just take the temperature down, go back to a pre-Trump Minot, and get a grip of yourself. I'll say it agin. You used to be somewhat reasonable. Your devotion to your politics has changed you and I don't think that is really who you are or what you really stand for or how you want to be in the world.MinotStateBeav said:What insult did I use? clown? That hurt you? lol.blungld said:Mods please. We have another poster here who has and is crossing the line (especially this last month). He doesn't seem to be able to self-regulate or contribute non-trolling, non-hateful posts. He is strictly insults and arguments and just keeps going further. It's time to step in and add him to the list of the banned.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
No, I didn't cry nor do I "threaten bans" as an ongoing activity to Minot. I just right now (as in once) suggested that Minot should be banned as a result of the overall tone and trolling nature of his posts, the way they have trended, the past few months. He has reached the level of non-communication and advocating uncivil discourse and action that I (as in this is my opinion) he should be banned. It would be great if he could get himself under control and just have discussions here, but he seems incapable of doing that and frankly appears to like trolling and attacking posters and getting them angry: "owning the Libs."oski003 said:
Which is exactly what Eastern Oregon did, but you only cry and threaten bans when Minot does it.
The first reply to the news...
"High profile political spouses get hospitalized in home invasion hammer attacks all the time. I'm sure it was just a homeless person looking for crack."
We're in a depression and our government is dumping money fresh off the presses. They're working with tech companies to ban their political opponents. Our government just moved nukes to Europe and we're the delusional ones? If I seem defensive at times, that's because we're talking politics. It's not for everyone, if you don't want to participate, there are other places to hang out. You and your amigos seem to think this space is only for you to pat each other on the back, it's not.blungld said:No. That didn't hurt me. But I take it that your defensive reaction means that you know inside that you are going too far and don't like this side of you. Maybe instead of the reflex to defend yourself and just go further, be a bigger man and apologize (maybe that is a bridge too far?) or at the very least just take the temperature down, go back to a pre-Trump Minot, and get a grip of yourself. I'll say it agin. You used to be somewhat reasonable. Your devotion to your politics has changed you and I don't think that is really who you are or what you really stand for or how you want to be in the world.MinotStateBeav said:What insult did I use? clown? That hurt you? lol.blungld said:Mods please. We have another poster here who has and is crossing the line (especially this last month). He doesn't seem to be able to self-regulate or contribute non-trolling, non-hateful posts. He is strictly insults and arguments and just keeps going further. It's time to step in and add him to the list of the banned.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
Just take a look at this. Maybe this isn't you either?
It wasn't me.
Then how about just be against violence and start there now? And we can all denounce violence together no matter who is attacked or their political party. Okay?MinotStateBeav said:
I would show you examples but the search function won't go farther than 1 year out.
Did you take a look at the article?MinotStateBeav said:
I would show you examples but the search function won't go farther than 1 year out.
blungld said:Then how about just be against violence and start there now? And we can all denounce violence together no matter who is attacked or their political party. Okay?MinotStateBeav said:
I would show you examples but the search function won't go farther than 1 year out.
I didn't say anything pro violence so, this straw man you keep throwing out there looks pathetic. Keep crying for me to be banned, but you can put me on ignore and not read anything I write.blungld said:Then how about just be against violence and start there now? And we can all denounce violence together no matter who is attacked or their political party. Okay?MinotStateBeav said:
I would show you examples but the search function won't go farther than 1 year out.
That is completely wrong. I very much want to participate in political talk and there are really serious issue at play in the world in country. That's why I come to these boards, for political talk and to discuss these problems. What I don't come here for is the type of banter you have perpetuated and gone further with. Political talk doesn't have to sound like the way you do it. That's a false assumption. I would be very interested in you expressing your concerns and what you think should be done about them. But that doesn't seem to be what you do. Your opinions are seemingly always coached in attacks or insults (and often contain a lot of misinformation). An actual political talk would be that you state your concern and proposed solution. Then you listen to another person's reaction and perhaps their solution. And the two of you bring some light and understanding to the topic.MinotStateBeav said:We're in a depression and our government is dumping money fresh off the presses. They're working with tech companies to ban their political opponents. Our government just moved nukes to Europe and we're the delusional ones? If I seem defensive at times, that's because we're talking politics. It's not for everyone, if you don't want to participate, there are other places to hang out. You and your amigos seem to think this space is only for you to pat each other on the back, it's not.blungld said:No. That didn't hurt me. But I take it that your defensive reaction means that you know inside that you are going too far and don't like this side of you. Maybe instead of the reflex to defend yourself and just go further, be a bigger man and apologize (maybe that is a bridge too far?) or at the very least just take the temperature down, go back to a pre-Trump Minot, and get a grip of yourself. I'll say it agin. You used to be somewhat reasonable. Your devotion to your politics has changed you and I don't think that is really who you are or what you really stand for or how you want to be in the world.MinotStateBeav said:What insult did I use? clown? That hurt you? lol.blungld said:Mods please. We have another poster here who has and is crossing the line (especially this last month). He doesn't seem to be able to self-regulate or contribute non-trolling, non-hateful posts. He is strictly insults and arguments and just keeps going further. It's time to step in and add him to the list of the banned.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
Just take a look at this. Maybe this isn't you either?
It wasn't me.
It's a shame that this is all you are taking away from my sincere attempt to communicate. Am I wrong to try? You just come here to argue and don't care if you are part of a community and how you can best be a part of it? I would think that how long-standing members react to you would be important information. I know it would effect me tremendously the advice given to me by others here on the board.MinotStateBeav said:I didn't say anything pro violence so, this straw man you keep throwing out there looks pathetic. Keep crying for me to be banned, but you can put me on ignore and not read anything I write.blungld said:Then how about just be against violence and start there now? And we can all denounce violence together no matter who is attacked or their political party. Okay?MinotStateBeav said:
I would show you examples but the search function won't go farther than 1 year out.
I generally only insult as a form of humor, but if I'm being thrown insults, I respond in kind. Thanks for the lesson on how to argue, but we have about 3 conservatives on this board (all of whom you guys try to get banned) who get dog piled by your team, the rest of us got banned by your side because you don't like "how we argue". Apparently its a serious conservative trait to make libs super mad. We can't help it. Showing your hypocrisy isn't trolling, its holding up a mirror.blungld said:That is completely wrong. I very much want to participate in political talk and there are really serious issue at play in the world in country. That's why I come to these boards, for political talk and to discuss these problems. What I don't come here for is the type of banter you have perpetuated and gone further with. Political talk doesn't have to sound like the way you do it. That's a false assumption. I would be very interested in you expressing your concerns and what you think should be done about them. But that doesn't seem to be what you do. Your opinions are seemingly always coached in attacks or insults (and often contain a lot of misinformation). An actual political talk would be that you state your concern and proposed solution. Then you listen to another person's reaction and perhaps their solution. And the two of you bring some light and understanding to the topic.MinotStateBeav said:We're in a depression and our government is dumping money fresh off the presses. They're working with tech companies to ban their political opponents. Our government just moved nukes to Europe and we're the delusional ones? If I seem defensive at times, that's because we're talking politics. It's not for everyone, if you don't want to participate, there are other places to hang out. You and your amigos seem to think this space is only for you to pat each other on the back, it's not.blungld said:No. That didn't hurt me. But I take it that your defensive reaction means that you know inside that you are going too far and don't like this side of you. Maybe instead of the reflex to defend yourself and just go further, be a bigger man and apologize (maybe that is a bridge too far?) or at the very least just take the temperature down, go back to a pre-Trump Minot, and get a grip of yourself. I'll say it agin. You used to be somewhat reasonable. Your devotion to your politics has changed you and I don't think that is really who you are or what you really stand for or how you want to be in the world.MinotStateBeav said:What insult did I use? clown? That hurt you? lol.blungld said:Mods please. We have another poster here who has and is crossing the line (especially this last month). He doesn't seem to be able to self-regulate or contribute non-trolling, non-hateful posts. He is strictly insults and arguments and just keeps going further. It's time to step in and add him to the list of the banned.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
Just take a look at this. Maybe this isn't you either?
It wasn't me.
But you don't do the listening part. And you don't present issues in the affirmative here is what I think. You present issues largely as "here is what you think" or "here is what the Dems are doing". That is tribal culture war stuff tat takes no responsibility for self or your own thoughts. It is aggressive and trolling. The problem isn't that I am such a wuss that I can't take earnest political talk. The problem is that you are not actually participating or creating earnest political talk. See the difference?
Reportedly Paul Pelosi attacker is David Depape — a Castro supporting nudist transient from Berkeley CA (he’s on the far LEFT literally and figuratively) pic.twitter.com/nR46npzcM6
— Lidia Curanaj (@LidiaNews) October 28, 2022
I don't see what I posted as "tribal". In the light of breaking news with few details, I was pointing out rather sarcastically that an attack inside the home of a polarizing political figure was likely to be politically motivated. I would have felt the same way if it happened at Mar-A-Lago or the home of MTG. I was right given what has been reported so far. That it was apparently a far leftist rather than a far rightist doesn't change the fact that a hammer attack on an octogenarian is despicable.oski003 said:blungld said:Mods please. We have another poster here who has and is crossing the line (especially this last month). He doesn't seem to be able to self-regulate or contribute non-trolling, non-hateful posts. He is strictly insults and arguments and just keeps going further. It's time to step in and add him to the list of the banned.MinotStateBeav said:
Well Nancy said crime isn't a top problem for the american people, so this is probably a one off.
Don't have such a hysterical hissy fit. The first post was tribal and it wasn't Minot. It was Eastern Oregon Bear. You can't just cry when the other side politicizes these things. Cry when your side does too.
"High profile political spouses get hospitalized in home invasion hammer attacks all the time. I'm sure it was just a homeless person looking for crack."
LOL no you don't. You run and hide.MinotStateBeav said:
but if I'm being thrown insults, I respond in kind.
Exactly what I was thinking. Being a Q-Anon guy isn't far-left.wraptor347 said:
The tweet suggests he's far left but his recent activity on social media suggests he was deep in the Q-hole.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/28/politics/pelosi-attack-suspect-conspiracy-theories-invs/index.html
blungld said:No, I didn't cry nor do I "threaten bans" as an ongoing activity to Minot. I just right now (as in once) suggested that Minot should be banned as a result of the overall tone and trolling nature of his posts, the way they have trended, the past few months. He has reached the level of non-communication and advocating uncivil discourse and action that I (as in this is my opinion) he should be banned. It would be great if he could get himself under control and just have discussions here, but he seems incapable of doing that and frankly appears to like trolling and attacking posters and getting them angry: "owning the Libs."oski003 said:
Which is exactly what Eastern Oregon did, but you only cry and threaten bans when Minot does it.
The first reply to the news...
"High profile political spouses get hospitalized in home invasion hammer attacks all the time. I'm sure it was just a homeless person looking for crack."
I don't think that's what these boards are for. Do you? Do you think if you read his posts 10 years ago you would have said, boy the internet will really become great and that looks like a reasonable way to communicate to other people?
Again, the subject here is Minot. You especially (as do all the right leaning posters) really like to change the subject in your posts. By comparing Minot to Eastern Oregon it sounds like you are saying that you agree that Minot is bad, but you also think Eastern is bad. But you never say that. You skip the first part. If you want to make a case for banning me or Eastern, go for it, but we are in agreement that what Minot has been posting is bad as evidenced by your use of him as a measuring stick against Eastern?
wraptor347 said:
The tweet suggests he's far left but his recent activity on social media suggests he was deep in the Q-hole.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/28/politics/pelosi-attack-suspect-conspiracy-theories-invs/index.html
I think you'll find (and probably already know this) that the posters here are pretty bright. We can tell the difference between intelligent discourse and trolling. We are also not so thin-skinned that we ban people for disagreeing with us. Do you sincerely understand the difference between discussion and debate versus arguing, insulting, and trolling? There is a big difference and the only calls for bans has been when the trolling has mounted over a long long time and the offenses have gotten so egregious and despicable that the cohesion, compatibility, and enjoyment of all outweighs the access of the negative, instigating, and false voice. It's never the case that a liberal on the board has said, "Oh my, that conservative made a really good point, quick gag them! Or. "That really well presented argument burns my tender little snowflake ears, ban him!" You know this isn't the case so why even make that argument?MinotStateBeav said:
I generally only insult as a form of humor, but if I'm being thrown insults, I respond in kind. Thanks for the lesson on how to argue, but we have about 3 conservatives on this board (all of whom you guys try to get banned) who get dog piled by your team, the rest of us got banned by your side because you don't like "how we argue". Apparently its a serious conservative trait to make libs super mad. We can't help it. Showing your hypocrisy isn't trolling, its holding up a mirror.
Hissy fit? You really think that describes what I did? I reacted to a post by Minot. Expressed my reaction clearly. If you disagree or think it was subjective or hypocritical, fine. But it's pretty weak to have to discount other's opinions as hissy fits so that you don't have to consider them or that you can write them off as "crazy." Are women who complain "hysterical" too?oski003 said:
Don't have such a hysterical hissy fit.
That is what the first post is about, the thread that you interjected yourself in was not about that, but nice smug parsing. Think you made a good important point that added anything? I don't. But you did do a really good job of totally ignoring what I said and not responding to the substance of my post.oski003 said:
The subject is actually the attack on Paul Pelosi. You and others made it about Minot. Thanks.
blungld said:That is what the first post is about, the thread that you interjected yourself in was not about that, but nice smug parsing. Think you made a good important point that added anything? I don't. But you did do a really good job of totally ignoring what I said and not responding to the substance of my post.oski003 said:
The subject is actually the attack on Paul Pelosi. You and others made it about Minot. Thanks.