SBGold said:

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DJT outsources when he could buy American.

Shameful

archivebuttons.com/articles?article=https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-suit-tag-reveals-his-jos-a-bank-suit-made-in-china-or-bangladesh/

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE TALARICO, OSSOFF, BECERRA, FLANAGAN, EL-SAYED, BROWN, PELTOLA AND JACKSON

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cal83dls79 said:

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I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.

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Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.

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What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

• Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
• $2,000 stimulus checks
• $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
• Free community college
• Free public college for families earning under $125,000
• $15 Federal minimum wage
• 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
• 7 paid sick days
• Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
• Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds

Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.

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how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

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We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.

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Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

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We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.

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Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran

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Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

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That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.

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Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.

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Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.

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I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

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Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?

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Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.

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There are a lot of versions of this that don't involve going to war in Iran.

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I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, Trump's "deal" with IRAN winds up looking a lot like the JCPOA that he ripped up and withdrew from in May of 2018.

Never mind that he and his Defense Secretary had repeatedly told us that we "obliterated their nuclear capability" last Summer in Operation Midnight Hammer.

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I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, no matter what happens, you will claim and Iranian victory.

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Iran has already won with how they have shown they can control the strait.

VOTE Blue and Vote Talarico, Peltola, Ossoff, Brown, El-Sayed, Jackson, Becerra, Turek, Cooper, Flanagan, Hamilton and Osborn

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Cal88 said:

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The pipelines can be bombed, as could the loading stations and the oil wells themselves, most of which are located near the Persian Gulf.

Also:

BREAKING — TANKER ATTACKS IN STRAIT OF HORMUZ HIT HIGHEST WEEKLY LEVEL SINCE START OF IRAN WAR

WHAT HAPPENED

At least 12 incidents involving oil, LNG and LPG tankers were recorded around the Strait of Hormuz between September 28 and October 5, according to three…

— World Context News (@WorldContextN) October 7, 2026

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ChudBear said:

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Cal88 said:

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The pipelines can be bombed, as could the loading stations and the oil wells themselves, most of which are located near the Persian Gulf.

Also:

BREAKING — TANKER ATTACKS IN STRAIT OF HORMUZ HIT HIGHEST WEEKLY LEVEL SINCE START OF IRAN WAR

WHAT HAPPENED

At least 12 incidents involving oil, LNG and LPG tankers were recorded around the Strait of Hormuz between September 28 and October 5, according to three…

— World Context News (@WorldContextN) October 7, 2026

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There is one nuance worth emphasizing: "12 incidents" does not mean 12 tankers were successfully struck. Reuters says the tally includes a broader category of hostile/security events, including attacks, drone surveillance, and harassment by Iran's Revolutionary Guards. Only three vessels are confirmed, by Reuters, to have actually been attacked.

It's important we tell the truth when doom posting.

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In the week of September 28-October 5, there had been at least 12 attacks on oil, liquefied natural gas and liquefied petroleum gas tankers around the Strait of Hormuz, according to data from three maritime security sources who analysed incidents based on information received from the area.

That was the highest number of attacks in a single week since the US war with Iran began on February 28, the sources said.

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Cal88 said:

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Cal88 said:

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The pipelines can be bombed, as could the loading stations and the oil wells themselves, most of which are located near the Persian Gulf.

Also:

BREAKING — TANKER ATTACKS IN STRAIT OF HORMUZ HIT HIGHEST WEEKLY LEVEL SINCE START OF IRAN WAR

WHAT HAPPENED

At least 12 incidents involving oil, LNG and LPG tankers were recorded around the Strait of Hormuz between September 28 and October 5, according to three…

— World Context News (@WorldContextN) October 7, 2026

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There is one nuance worth emphasizing: "12 incidents" does not mean 12 tankers were successfully struck. Reuters says the tally includes a broader category of hostile/security events, including attacks, drone surveillance, and harassment by Iran's Revolutionary Guards. Only three vessels are confirmed, by Reuters, to have actually been attacked.

It's important we tell the truth when doom posting.

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From the Reuters article:

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In the week of September 28-October 5, there had been at least 12 attacks on oil, liquefied natural gas and liquefied petroleum gas tankers around the Strait of Hormuz, according to data from three maritime security sources who analysed incidents based on information received from the area.

That was the highest number of attacks in a single week since the US war with Iran began on February 28, the sources said.

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Yes indeed, it's important to tell the truth.

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ChudBear said:

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Cal88 said:

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Cal88 said:

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The pipelines can be bombed, as could the loading stations and the oil wells themselves, most of which are located near the Persian Gulf.

Also:

BREAKING — TANKER ATTACKS IN STRAIT OF HORMUZ HIT HIGHEST WEEKLY LEVEL SINCE START OF IRAN WAR

WHAT HAPPENED

At least 12 incidents involving oil, LNG and LPG tankers were recorded around the Strait of Hormuz between September 28 and October 5, according to three…

— World Context News (@WorldContextN) October 7, 2026

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There is one nuance worth emphasizing: "12 incidents" does not mean 12 tankers were successfully struck. Reuters says the tally includes a broader category of hostile/security events, including attacks, drone surveillance, and harassment by Iran's Revolutionary Guards. Only three vessels are confirmed, by Reuters, to have actually been attacked.

It's important we tell the truth when doom posting.

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From the Reuters article:

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In the week of September 28-October 5, there had been at least 12 attacks on oil, liquefied natural gas and liquefied petroleum gas tankers around the Strait of Hormuz, according to data from three maritime security sources who analysed incidents based on information received from the area.

That was the highest number of attacks in a single week since the US war with Iran began on February 28, the sources said.

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Yes indeed, it's important to tell the truth.

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Which you didn't do. Your own source, Reuters, says that only three are confirmed to be actual attacks, the rest were just threats of some kind.

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Cal88 said:

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Cal88 said:

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The pipelines can be bombed, as could the loading stations and the oil wells themselves, most of which are located near the Persian Gulf.

Also:

BREAKING — TANKER ATTACKS IN STRAIT OF HORMUZ HIT HIGHEST WEEKLY LEVEL SINCE START OF IRAN WAR

WHAT HAPPENED

At least 12 incidents involving oil, LNG and LPG tankers were recorded around the Strait of Hormuz between September 28 and October 5, according to three…

— World Context News (@WorldContextN) October 7, 2026

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There is one nuance worth emphasizing: "12 incidents" does not mean 12 tankers were successfully struck. Reuters says the tally includes a broader category of hostile/security events, including attacks, drone surveillance, and harassment by Iran's Revolutionary Guards. Only three vessels are confirmed, by Reuters, to have actually been attacked.

It's important we tell the truth when doom posting.

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From the Reuters article:

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In the week of September 28-October 5, there had been at least 12 attacks on oil, liquefied natural gas and liquefied petroleum gas tankers around the Strait of Hormuz, according to data from three maritime security sources who analysed incidents based on information received from the area.

That was the highest number of attacks in a single week since the US war with Iran began on February 28, the sources said.

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Yes indeed, it's important to tell the truth.

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Which you didn't do. Your own source, Reuters, says that only three are confirmed to be actual attacks, the rest were just threats of some kind.

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So, quoting the article, " the highest number of attacks in a single week since the US war with Iran began" is nothing to worry about, really. OK.

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bearister said:

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27 stars for same poster on one page.

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27 stars for same poster on one page.

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27 stars for same poster on one page.

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Of all the people to make the complaint about having their "star count" inflated by the OT board, you are the least appropriate person to make it

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27 stars for same poster on one page.

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Of all the people to make the complaint about having their "star count" inflated by the OT board, you are the least appropriate person to make it

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Why? I'm 100 percent certain that Bearister has no sock puppets here

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bearister said:

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I just starred you to get your count up to the traditional 8.

I would have given you 5 more but someone will have to send me instructions regarding how to do that.

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• The refusal of counseling services based on marital status highlights a potential discriminatory practice.
• Such actions can undermine the well-being of military personnel who may need support regardless of their relationship status.

• The situation emphasizes the necessity for the Canadian Army to provide comprehensive support services that cater to all individuals, including those who are unmarried.
• Inclusive policies can help ensure that all members of the military community receive the assistance they need.

• This lawsuit could lead to changes in how the Canadian Army approaches counseling and support services.
• It may prompt a broader review of policies to ensure they are equitable and accessible to all service members, regardless of their marital status.

MinotStateBeav said:

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Came across this story about a lawsuit in Canada, suing the military because they didn't offer marriage counseling to an unmarried female soldier.

Overview of the Lawsuit
The Canadian Army has been criticized for its marriage counseling services, which allegedly denied assistance to a woman because she was unmarried. This incident has raised significant concerns regarding the inclusivity and accessibility of support services within the military.
Key Issues
Discrimination in Services

• The refusal of counseling services based on marital status highlights a potential discriminatory practice.
• Such actions can undermine the well-being of military personnel who may need support regardless of their relationship status.

Need for Inclusive Support

• The situation emphasizes the necessity for the Canadian Army to provide comprehensive support services that cater to all individuals, including those who are unmarried.
• Inclusive policies can help ensure that all members of the military community receive the assistance they need.

Implications

• This lawsuit could lead to changes in how the Canadian Army approaches counseling and support services.
• It may prompt a broader review of policies to ensure they are equitable and accessible to all service members, regardless of their marital status.

The outcome of this case could significantly impact the future of support services within the Canadian Armed Forces, promoting a more inclusive environment for all personnel.

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SBGold said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Came across this story about a lawsuit in Canada, suing the military because they didn't offer marriage counseling to an unmarried female soldier.

Overview of the Lawsuit
The Canadian Army has been criticized for its marriage counseling services, which allegedly denied assistance to a woman because she was unmarried. This incident has raised significant concerns regarding the inclusivity and accessibility of support services within the military.
Key Issues
Discrimination in Services

• The refusal of counseling services based on marital status highlights a potential discriminatory practice.
• Such actions can undermine the well-being of military personnel who may need support regardless of their relationship status.

Need for Inclusive Support

• The situation emphasizes the necessity for the Canadian Army to provide comprehensive support services that cater to all individuals, including those who are unmarried.
• Inclusive policies can help ensure that all members of the military community receive the assistance they need.

Implications

• This lawsuit could lead to changes in how the Canadian Army approaches counseling and support services.
• It may prompt a broader review of policies to ensure they are equitable and accessible to all service members, regardless of their marital status.

The outcome of this case could significantly impact the future of support services within the Canadian Armed Forces, promoting a more inclusive environment for all personnel.

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They need to be more inclusive with their benefits, hope she wins

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bearister said:

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27 stars for same poster on one page.

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Of all the people to make the complaint about having their "star count" inflated by the OT board, you are the least appropriate person to make it

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Why? I'm 100 percent certain that Bearister has no sock puppets here

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Ok, I'll come clean. I have one.

Aunburdened



I'm the Hardest Workin' Man in Show Bidness. I have to gouge in the mud and the blood and the beer to get even one star for my posts.

I don't do the internet equivalent of sh@rding against the wall and get 8 stars!

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DiabloWags said:

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27 stars for same poster on one page.

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Of all the people to make the complaint about having their "star count" inflated by the OT board, you are the least appropriate person to make it

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Why? I'm 100 percent certain that Bearister has no sock puppets here

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Ok, I'll come clean. I have one.

Aunburdened



I'm the Hardest Workin' Man in Show Bidness. I have to gouge in the mud and the blood and the beer to get even one star for my posts.

I don't do the internet equivalent of sh@rding against the wall and get 8 stars!

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Game, set, match.

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DiabloWags said:

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Oh boy
More MAGA CORRUPTION.






Who is Eric Deters? The MAGA donor Kimberly Guilfoyle sought $100K from for AmEx bill

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Tedhead94 the II said:

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Welp it's official. We suck. We deserve whatever happens to our society.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cmy0r96xygx6o

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Tedhead94 the II said:

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Welp it's official. We suck. We deserve whatever happens to our society.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cmy0r96xygx6o

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ChudBear said:

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Tedhead94 the II said:

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Welp it's official. We suck. We deserve whatever happens to our society.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cmy0r96xygx6o

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Dope. Don't want to watch it, then don't watch it.

This is also being discussed in another thread.

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Tedhead94 the II said:

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ChudBear said:

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Tedhead94 the II said:

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Welp it's official. We suck. We deserve whatever happens to our society.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cmy0r96xygx6o

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Dope. Don't want to watch it, then don't watch it.

This is also being discussed in another thread.

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Dope, eh?

That is something someone would say in a society that can't solve school shootings.

Oh, wait. My bad. Thoughts and prayers for us all.

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DiabloWags said:

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Tedhead94 the II said:

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Welp it's official. We suck. We deserve whatever happens to our society.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cmy0r96xygx6o

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Wow.

Is it going to be Pay per View?
Help decrease our budget deficit?

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