Bernie Sanders doubled his income last year by writing a best-selling book that condemns capitalism, per BI.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) May 20, 2023

MinotStateBeav said:

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Bernie Sanders doubled his income last year by writing a best-selling book that condemns capitalism, per BI.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) May 20, 2023

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OK, which one of us on BI has been flapping their gums to the media about Bernie Sanders income?

movielover said:

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Do you think he knew Fang Fang?

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"我的爱人方方不会再因为我在电视直播中把我的臭尿布吹成巧克力爆炸而搞砸了."

- Eric Swalwell

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) May 19, 2023

Not sure, but Eric Swalwell sure did.

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okaydo said:

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Spotted on Independence Ave…things not to do when riding scooters around DC pic.twitter.com/BjFau8hFuc

— Washingtonian Problems (@WashProbs) May 20, 2023

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It's always a dad. Mom must be horrified after viewing this.

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Scooter aside, I never liked the baby on my back anyways. We did have a decent backup with external frame, but, nah. The Bjorne on the front is the way to go.

oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Since this is a college sports site, you have to wonder how this is going to affect the NCAA arms race. It would only take a couple of trans athletes on a team to dominate NCAAW hoops.

There is now a path towards a scholarship and professional sports league for average biological male players if trans players are normalized, and the same applies in NCAAW and most other women's sports. You wonder if this is going to completely disrupt the women's tennis circuit, where the financial incentive is huge, a male player with an average to mediocre athletic potential could transition and dominate the sport.

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Navratilova wants to protect women's tennis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11903643/amp/Martina-Navratilova-says-banning-trans-athletes-womens-events-step-right-direction.html

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I think maybe there should be levels of competition where it's allowed and where it's not allowed. Anything up to 18, have at it!! That's all recreation for individual/personal development.

Where it starts getting dicey for me is professional, paid ranks. College is amateur, no?

Cal88 said:

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There is a political battle looming between 2nd generation feminists (which include members of the LGBT community like Navratilova or Camille Paglia) and 2020s woke culture advocates championing the trans movement who view biological males trans women competing in womens sports as a Promothean basic human right. I think the latter are going to win, them being at the forefront of the current social justice movement.

This will change the face of women's sports in the West (I guess literally as well as figuratively...)

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Please shut up with the usage of the word "woke".
Anyone who uses that in their battle cry is a fugging idiot.

It's like, okay, I stopped reading right there.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Also, Renee Richards didn't change the landscape of women's tennis all those years ago.

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Her autobiography, Tennis Without Balls, was a solid read.

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It was pretty hard to get through.

Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Where is this huge wave of trans athletes dominating women's sports? I only see a few here and there with only occasional success at best. I seriously doubt anyone would transition just to do that.

Also, Renee Richards didn't change the landscape of women's tennis all those years ago.

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It's still pretty early, I think the floodgates will start opening once there is a successful role model star trans athlete. In NCAAW BB, we could start seeing that once there are trans players coming out from HS, The colleges that will recruit them first will have a big step up over the competition.

The differential is very clear in sports like swimming or T&F, where the performance delta is readily quantified, but that differential is the same in sports like BB, soccer etc, where for instance the world champion USWMNT would get crushed by a decent boys' high school team.

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Cool story.

Do you actually believe that a trans high school athlete just shows up in college and competes without making any changes?

You might want to do some homework in order to become better informed.

For starters, each sports National Governing Body makes the rules.
If there is no NGB, then the policy would be determined by that sport's international federation. And if there is no international federation, the policy would then be determined by the IOC.

Doesnt sound like you are actually aware of the Rules governing trans athletes.

For participation in last year's Winter and Spring Championships, documentation by an athlete had to include compliance with the 2010 NCAA policy, which stipulates ONE YEAR OF TESTOSTERONE SUPPRESSION TREATMENT.

How many Colleges do you know will be recruiting transgender athletes if they have to sit out a year on suppression meds?

Doesnt sound like a very economic way of utilizing one's scholarship funds.

Transgender Student-Athlete Participation Policy - NCAA.org

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Thomas went from a mediocre/average male swimmer at UPenn to D1 NCAAW champ after transitioning.

You'd have to be more braindead than a Pennsylvania senator to believe that Thomas didn't have the physiological advantages of a biological male in blowing out the field of women's swimming.

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Sure he did.
He/she had a man's skeleton. Advantage.

But so what.
I really don't care!
UPenn womens swimming.
Don't care!
Doesn't affect me or you or anyone we know or will likely ever come into contact with. And this is not the same as not caring about innocent Iraqis killed in Desert Storm II who I will also never know.

It's not life and death.
It's seeing who can swim faster from one side of the pool to the other. In college. And do any of us really care????

Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Nancy Pelosi's eldest daughter is Dianne Feinstein's primary caregiver. Nothing corrupt there.https://t.co/CAbCYVL0so

— Yogi Bear (@YogiHydra) May 19, 2023

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What would be corrupt about that?

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Yogi being unbanned on Twitter!

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Yeah.
You know, sometimes I just remind myself that there are quite possibly some seriously mentally disturbed people I'm talking to here on BI. Sometimes best to just leave well alone and stop trying to have a rational discussion.

"Because they're out there."

concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Where is this huge wave of trans athletes dominating women's sports? I only see a few here and there with only occasional success at best. I seriously doubt anyone would transition just to do that.

Also, Renee Richards didn't change the landscape of women's tennis all those years ago.

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It's still pretty early, I think the floodgates will start opening once there is a successful role model star trans athlete. In NCAAW BB, we could start seeing that once there are trans players coming out from HS, The colleges that will recruit them first will have a big step up over the competition.

The differential is very clear in sports like swimming or T&F, where the performance delta is readily quantified, but that differential is the same in sports like BB, soccer etc, where for instance the world champion USWMNT would get crushed by a decent boys' high school team.

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Cool story.

Do you actually believe that a trans high school athlete just shows up in college and competes without making any changes?

You might want to do some homework in order to become better informed.

For starters, each sports National Governing Body makes the rules.
If there is no NGB, then the policy would be determined by that sport's international federation. And if there is no international federation, the policy would then be determined by the IOC.

Doesnt sound like you are actually aware of the Rules governing trans athletes.

For participation in last year's Winter and Spring Championships, documentation by an athlete had to include compliance with the 2010 NCAA policy, which stipulates ONE YEAR OF TESTOSTERONE SUPPRESSION TREATMENT.

How many Colleges do you know will be recruiting transgender athletes if they have to sit out a year on suppression meds?

Doesnt sound like a very economic way of utilizing one's scholarship funds.

Transgender Student-Athlete Participation Policy - NCAA.org

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Thomas went from a mediocre/average male swimmer at UPenn to D1 NCAAW champ after transitioning.

You'd have to be more braindead than a Pennsylvania senator to believe that Thomas didn't have the physiological advantages of a biological male in blowing out the field of women's swimming.

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Sure he did.
He/she had a man's skeleton. Advantage.

But so what.
I really don't care!
UPenn womens swimming.
Don't care!
Doesn't affect me or you or anyone we know or will likely ever come into contact with. And this is not the same as not caring about innocent Iraqis killed in Desert Storm II who I will also never know.

It's not life and death.
It's seeing who can swim faster from one side of the pool to the other. In college. And do any of us really care????

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For here on out, concordtom has declared all BI discussions must involve life and death.

Since this is a football site, we can start here.

oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Where is this huge wave of trans athletes dominating women's sports? I only see a few here and there with only occasional success at best. I seriously doubt anyone would transition just to do that.

Also, Renee Richards didn't change the landscape of women's tennis all those years ago.

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It's still pretty early, I think the floodgates will start opening once there is a successful role model star trans athlete. In NCAAW BB, we could start seeing that once there are trans players coming out from HS, The colleges that will recruit them first will have a big step up over the competition.

The differential is very clear in sports like swimming or T&F, where the performance delta is readily quantified, but that differential is the same in sports like BB, soccer etc, where for instance the world champion USWMNT would get crushed by a decent boys' high school team.

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Cool story.

Do you actually believe that a trans high school athlete just shows up in college and competes without making any changes?

You might want to do some homework in order to become better informed.

For starters, each sports National Governing Body makes the rules.
If there is no NGB, then the policy would be determined by that sport's international federation. And if there is no international federation, the policy would then be determined by the IOC.

Doesnt sound like you are actually aware of the Rules governing trans athletes.

For participation in last year's Winter and Spring Championships, documentation by an athlete had to include compliance with the 2010 NCAA policy, which stipulates ONE YEAR OF TESTOSTERONE SUPPRESSION TREATMENT.

How many Colleges do you know will be recruiting transgender athletes if they have to sit out a year on suppression meds?

Doesnt sound like a very economic way of utilizing one's scholarship funds.

Transgender Student-Athlete Participation Policy - NCAA.org

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Thomas went from a mediocre/average male swimmer at UPenn to D1 NCAAW champ after transitioning.

You'd have to be more braindead than a Pennsylvania senator to believe that Thomas didn't have the physiological advantages of a biological male in blowing out the field of women's swimming.

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Sure he did.
He/she had a man's skeleton. Advantage.

But so what.
I really don't care!
UPenn womens swimming.
Don't care!
Doesn't affect me or you or anyone we know or will likely ever come into contact with. And this is not the same as not caring about innocent Iraqis killed in Desert Storm II who I will also never know.

It's not life and death.
It's seeing who can swim faster from one side of the pool to the other. In college. And do any of us really care????

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For here on out, concordtom has declared all BI discussions must involve life and death.

Since this is a football site, we can start here.

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Funny clip.
But, you know, what would actually happen if men transition and start competing in women's sports… it's not that guns would be pulled out in a life-n-death situation, but the women would start popping pills so they can out-man the men.

Okay, why don't you and the other lgtbq phobes just start all your lgbtq-phobic posts with a disclaimer acknowledging who you are. Then we can just bypass.

Or better yet, I can put those I don't like on Ignore. Yes, that's a better idea.

Movielover, goodbye!
Who's next?

PS: insane choice for lighting by the director. Must be going for the Caravaggio in a sound stage cinematography award.

concordtom said:

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Where it starts getting dicey for me is professional, paid ranks. College is amateur, no?

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College hasnt been amateur for awhile now.

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Where is this huge wave of trans athletes dominating women's sports? I only see a few here and there with only occasional success at best. I seriously doubt anyone would transition just to do that.

Also, Renee Richards didn't change the landscape of women's tennis all those years ago.

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It's still pretty early, I think the floodgates will start opening once there is a successful role model star trans athlete. In NCAAW BB, we could start seeing that once there are trans players coming out from HS, The colleges that will recruit them first will have a big step up over the competition.

The differential is very clear in sports like swimming or T&F, where the performance delta is readily quantified, but that differential is the same in sports like BB, soccer etc, where for instance the world champion USWMNT would get crushed by a decent boys' high school team.

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Cool story.

Do you actually believe that a trans high school athlete just shows up in college and competes without making any changes?

You might want to do some homework in order to become better informed.

For starters, each sports National Governing Body makes the rules.
If there is no NGB, then the policy would be determined by that sport's international federation. And if there is no international federation, the policy would then be determined by the IOC.

Doesnt sound like you are actually aware of the Rules governing trans athletes.

For participation in last year's Winter and Spring Championships, documentation by an athlete had to include compliance with the 2010 NCAA policy, which stipulates ONE YEAR OF TESTOSTERONE SUPPRESSION TREATMENT.

How many Colleges do you know will be recruiting transgender athletes if they have to sit out a year on suppression meds?

Doesnt sound like a very economic way of utilizing one's scholarship funds.

Transgender Student-Athlete Participation Policy - NCAA.org

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Thomas went from a mediocre/average male swimmer at UPenn to D1 NCAAW champ after transitioning.

You'd have to be more braindead than a Pennsylvania senator to believe that Thomas didn't have the physiological advantages of a biological male in blowing out the field of women's swimming.

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Sure he did.
He/she had a man's skeleton. Advantage.

But so what.
I really don't care!
UPenn womens swimming.
Don't care!
Doesn't affect me or you or anyone we know or will likely ever come into contact with. And this is not the same as not caring about innocent Iraqis killed in Desert Storm II who I will also never know.

It's not life and death.
It's seeing who can swim faster from one side of the pool to the other. In college. And do any of us really care????

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For here on out, concordtom has declared all BI discussions must involve life and death.

Since this is a football site, we can start here.

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Funny clip.
But, you know, what would actually happen if men transition and start competing in women's sports… it's not that guns would be pulled out in a life-n-death situation, but the women would start popping pills so they can out-man the men.

Okay, why don't you and the other lgtbq phobes just start all your lgbtq-phobic posts with a disclaimer acknowledging who you are. Then we can just bypass.

Or better yet, I can put those I don't like on Ignore. Yes, that's a better idea.

Movielover, goodbye!
Who's next?

PS: insane choice for lighting by the director. Must be going for the Caravaggio in a sound stage cinematography award.

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You can certainly put people on ignore. It is not LGBTQ phobic to post concerns about biological men competing with women in sports. If anything, it is so clearly and obviously wrong, it is easy to discuss. It is nearly black and white while other trans issues are fairly gray. It is unfortunate that misguided trans advocates are ruining women's sports.

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No, this one is also fairly gray. If a trans woman athlete has been taking hormones, doing surgeries, etc., that will reduce their athletic performance. That's not in dispute. The questions are over HOW MUCH reduction there is and if there is still too much unfair advantage remaining (and the advantage might also be different for different sports). Also, there are going to be differences depending on WHEN you started the physical transition process. Pre puberty or post?

Not black and white at all. And a lot of this needs more study, because . . . well, there just haven't been a lot of historical examples to measure.

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Add one or two trans divisions. This is fairly black and white. Perhaps one could be for biological men who transitioned relatively early and have reduced most of the gender advantages. The other could be for those who haven't done so. Or they could just be in one division. Problem solved.

Cant help but notice that not a single poster here that acts like they "know" everything .... has never mentioned the 2010 NCAA Policy stipulating the requirement of hormone suppression meds for an entire year + testing of those levels.

The suggestion that a NCAA D-1 program would offer a scholarship to a transgender athlete out of high school who has to sit out a full year taking meds, is absurd.

If this was realistic, we would have seen a scholarship offered by now during the last dozen years. But we havent.

But Cal88 would tell you different.
Lolz.

DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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Where it starts getting dicey for me is professional, paid ranks. College is amateur, no?

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College hasnt been amateur for awhile now.

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Certainly not for basketball or football.
But that's been the NCAA-monopoly's little secret, hasn't it?

concordtom said:

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movielover said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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There is a political battle looming between 2nd generation feminists (which include members of the LGBT community like Navratilova or Camille Paglia) and 2020s woke culture advocates championing the trans movement who view biological males trans women competing in womens sports as a Promothean basic human right. I think the latter are going to win, them being at the forefront of the current social justice movement.

This will change the face of women's sports in the West (I guess literally as well as figuratively...)

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Where is this huge wave of trans athletes dominating women's sports? I only see a few here and there with only occasional success at best. I seriously doubt anyone would transition just to do that.

Also, Renee Richards didn't change the landscape of women's tennis all those years ago.

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We've just recently seen the wider occurrence of trans athletes, and though it appears the numbers are relatively small, they often dominate. It appears highly disproportional (male identifying as female).

Has a girl identifying as male ever dominated?

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Honestly, why do you care?!?!?!?!

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Fairness. The photo of the swimmers w Lia Thomas is telling, and wasn't widely distributed.

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Where is this huge wave of trans athletes dominating women's sports? I only see a few here and there with only occasional success at best. I seriously doubt anyone would transition just to do that.

Also, Renee Richards didn't change the landscape of women's tennis all those years ago.

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It's still pretty early, I think the floodgates will start opening once there is a successful role model star trans athlete. In NCAAW BB, we could start seeing that once there are trans players coming out from HS, The colleges that will recruit them first will have a big step up over the competition.

The differential is very clear in sports like swimming or T&F, where the performance delta is readily quantified, but that differential is the same in sports like BB, soccer etc, where for instance the world champion USWMNT would get crushed by a decent boys' high school team.

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Cool story.

Do you actually believe that a trans high school athlete just shows up in college and competes without making any changes?

You might want to do some homework in order to become better informed.

For starters, each sports National Governing Body makes the rules.
If there is no NGB, then the policy would be determined by that sport's international federation. And if there is no international federation, the policy would then be determined by the IOC.

Doesnt sound like you are actually aware of the Rules governing trans athletes.

For participation in last year's Winter and Spring Championships, documentation by an athlete had to include compliance with the 2010 NCAA policy, which stipulates ONE YEAR OF TESTOSTERONE SUPPRESSION TREATMENT.

How many Colleges do you know will be recruiting transgender athletes if they have to sit out a year on suppression meds?

Doesnt sound like a very economic way of utilizing one's scholarship funds.

Transgender Student-Athlete Participation Policy - NCAA.org

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Thomas went from a mediocre/average male swimmer at UPenn to D1 NCAAW champ after transitioning.

You'd have to be more braindead than a Pennsylvania senator to believe that Thomas didn't have the physiological advantages of a biological male in blowing out the field of women's swimming.

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Sure he did.
He/she had a man's skeleton. Advantage.

But so what.
I really don't care!
UPenn womens swimming.
Don't care!
Doesn't affect me or you or anyone we know or will likely ever come into contact with. And this is not the same as not caring about innocent Iraqis killed in Desert Storm II who I will also never know.

It's not life and death.
It's seeing who can swim faster from one side of the pool to the other. In college. And do any of us really care????

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For here on out, concordtom has declared all BI discussions must involve life and death.

Since this is a football site, we can start here.

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Funny clip.
But, you know, what would actually happen if men transition and start competing in women's sports… it's not that guns would be pulled out in a life-n-death situation, but the women would start popping pills so they can out-man the men.

Okay, why don't you and the other lgtbq phobes just start all your lgbtq-phobic posts with a disclaimer acknowledging who you are. Then we can just bypass.

Or better yet, I can put those I don't like on Ignore. Yes, that's a better idea.

Movielover, goodbye!
Who's next?

PS: insane choice for lighting by the director. Must be going for the Caravaggio in a sound stage cinematography award.

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You can certainly put people on ignore. It is not LGBTQ phobic to post concerns about biological men competing with women in sports. If anything, it is so clearly and obviously wrong, it is easy to discuss. It is nearly black and white while other trans issues are fairly gray. It is unfortunate that misguided trans advocates are ruining women's sports.

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No, this one is also fairly gray. If a trans woman athlete has been taking hormones, doing surgeries, etc., that will reduce their athletic performance. That's not in dispute. The questions are over HOW MUCH reduction there is and if there is still too much unfair advantage remaining (and the advantage might also be different for different sports). Also, there are going to be differences depending on WHEN you started the physical transition process. Pre puberty or post?

Not black and white at all. And a lot of this needs more study, because . . . well, there just haven't been a lot of historical examples to measure.

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Add one or two trans divisions. This is fairly black and white. Perhaps one could be for biological men who transitioned relatively early and have reduced most of the gender advantages. The other could be for those who haven't done so. Or they could just be in one division. Problem solved.

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We'll fly in the 1 swimmer from PA and the 2 in TX to join the 3 in California. It'll be the Big Race, 30 seconds across the pool, after tens of thousands of dollars in transportation costs.

Sorry, come up with another remedy to your problem.

dimitrig said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Where is this huge wave of trans athletes dominating women's sports? I only see a few here and there with only occasional success at best. I seriously doubt anyone would transition just to do that.

Also, Renee Richards didn't change the landscape of women's tennis all those years ago.

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It's still pretty early, I think the floodgates will start opening once there is a successful role model star trans athlete. In NCAAW BB, we could start seeing that once there are trans players coming out from HS, The colleges that will recruit them first will have a big step up over the competition.

The differential is very clear in sports like swimming or T&F, where the performance delta is readily quantified, but that differential is the same in sports like BB, soccer etc, where for instance the world champion USWMNT would get crushed by a decent boys' high school team.

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Cool story.

Do you actually believe that a trans high school athlete just shows up in college and competes without making any changes?

You might want to do some homework in order to become better informed.

For starters, each sports National Governing Body makes the rules.
If there is no NGB, then the policy would be determined by that sport's international federation. And if there is no international federation, the policy would then be determined by the IOC.

Doesnt sound like you are actually aware of the Rules governing trans athletes.

For participation in last year's Winter and Spring Championships, documentation by an athlete had to include compliance with the 2010 NCAA policy, which stipulates ONE YEAR OF TESTOSTERONE SUPPRESSION TREATMENT.

How many Colleges do you know will be recruiting transgender athletes if they have to sit out a year on suppression meds?

Doesnt sound like a very economic way of utilizing one's scholarship funds.

Transgender Student-Athlete Participation Policy - NCAA.org

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Thomas went from a mediocre/average male swimmer at UPenn to D1 NCAAW champ after transitioning.

You'd have to be more braindead than a Pennsylvania senator to believe that Thomas didn't have the physiological advantages of a biological male in blowing out the field of women's swimming.

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Sure he did.
He/she had a man's skeleton. Advantage.

But so what.
I really don't care!
UPenn womens swimming.
Don't care!
Doesn't affect me or you or anyone we know or will likely ever come into contact with. And this is not the same as not caring about innocent Iraqis killed in Desert Storm II who I will also never know.

It's not life and death.
It's seeing who can swim faster from one side of the pool to the other. In college. And do any of us really care????

---

For here on out, concordtom has declared all BI discussions must involve life and death.

Since this is a football site, we can start here.

---

Funny clip.
But, you know, what would actually happen if men transition and start competing in women's sports… it's not that guns would be pulled out in a life-n-death situation, but the women would start popping pills so they can out-man the men.

Okay, why don't you and the other lgtbq phobes just start all your lgbtq-phobic posts with a disclaimer acknowledging who you are. Then we can just bypass.

Or better yet, I can put those I don't like on Ignore. Yes, that's a better idea.

Movielover, goodbye!
Who's next?

PS: insane choice for lighting by the director. Must be going for the Caravaggio in a sound stage cinematography award.

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You can certainly put people on ignore. It is not LGBTQ phobic to post concerns about biological men competing with women in sports. If anything, it is so clearly and obviously wrong, it is easy to discuss. It is nearly black and white while other trans issues are fairly gray. It is unfortunate that misguided trans advocates are ruining women's sports.

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No, this one is also fairly gray. If a trans woman athlete has been taking hormones, doing surgeries, etc., that will reduce their athletic performance. That's not in dispute. The questions are over HOW MUCH reduction there is and if there is still too much unfair advantage remaining (and the advantage might also be different for different sports). Also, there are going to be differences depending on WHEN you started the physical transition process. Pre puberty or post?

Not black and white at all. And a lot of this needs more study, because . . . well, there just haven't been a lot of historical examples to measure.

---

Add one or two trans divisions. This is fairly black and white. Perhaps one could be for biological men who transitioned relatively early and have reduced most of the gender advantages. The other could be for those who haven't done so. Or they could just be in one division. Problem solved.

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There aren't enough trans athletes to create such a division which is why this is so stupid.

As for the athletes themselves, I think it is very selfish of them to continue competing at the highest levels as their new gender.

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Agreed.
But who cares for high school. If some guy wants to run around the track with girls, let him!

It goes to the "integrity" of sport Tom.

Should be obvious, no matter what level of competition.

You may not give a damn about high school competition, but thats irrelevant. Im pretty sure the high school athletes care.

The IOC (no longer allows it) at the Olympic level, so why should it be allowed at the high school level?