BearHunter said:

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Well, it seems like you're making the argument Donald Trump should appoint only MAGA people in 2024. I agree. The last 7 years revealed a lot.

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No, I'm simply suggesting that you have no idea what you're talking about.
They were ALL TRUMP APPOINTEES.

Shocking, but true.

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Shocking, but true.

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Hunter Avoids Jail Time After Pleading Biden https://t.co/h9LxWRlSaA pic.twitter.com/Hwje7YrLwb

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) June 20, 2023

You know it's true.

dimitrig said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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dimitrig said:

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Why do people hate Hillary Clinton?

I suspect it is because she's a strong woman and people fear strong women.

If you classify her with a jackass game show host like Trump you probably shouldn't be voting. Our country would be so much better off today if a few more people would have voted for her and Trump went back to his game show.

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Yeah, you nailed it. HRC is perfect. She is warm and friendly and everyone should love her. The ONLY reason anyone could even feign disdain in her general direction is misogyny, especially toward "strong" women. Jesus, what a stupid take, even by stupid OT standards.

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Why don't you answer the question?

I don't want a warm and friendly President.

If Hillary was a man she would have won.

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What modern American WH candidate called 40-50% of the potential voters "deplorables"? Smart? These were read remarks from her written script. Idiot.

Same woman who gifted for millions didn't pull construction permits on two homes in upstate New York. Cheap too.

BearHunter said:

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DiabloWags said:

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U.S. Attorney David Weiss was appointed by DONALD TRUMP.

Trump only hires the BEST PEOPLE!

Lmfao.

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The swamp protects itself.

1. Merrick Garland picked Robert Hur.

2. Robert Hur was the longtime protg of Chris Wray.

3. Chris Wray was the longtime protg of Rod Rosenstein, Obama's only 8-year Bush 43 U.S. Attorney holdover.

4. Robert Hur became the protg of Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, who managed Mueller probe against President Trump.

5. Chris Wray was also the longtime protg of James Comey, who Wray replaced as FBI Director when President Trump fired Comey.

6. Bill Barr, who clearly hates Trump, picked Durham and Weiss.

7. Chris Christie recommended Bill Barr to Trump.

8. Merrick Garland controls both Special Counsel investigations:

a. Jack Smith (Trump's lawful possession of his presidential records)

b. Rob Hur (Biden's unlawful possession of stolen classified records from Obama and Senate)

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Has Hunter converted?

concordtom said:

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If you want to get into prostitution /women comparisons with Hunter and Trump, pffft! Trump is far more guilty in this area of life.

If you want to get into comparisons about cheating on taxes, Trump is far more guilty in this comparison of life.

I'm shocked you are trying to equate the two.

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You are so blinded by Trump that you only see things from the lens of Trump vs non-Trump.

If a serial killer said he doesn't like Trump, you will find a reason why the serial killer is not bad.

My point about his prostitution and enablement of human trafficking by Russians is that he actually had prior bad acts that are considered when determining sentencing.

Inner city kids without any priors are getting jail time with possession being the most serious charge.

I am not comparing with Trump. My world does not revolve around Trump vs. non-Trump like you.

My brain can actually function, and I can say that Trump deserves to go jail while also saying that Hunter Biden deserves to go to jail. Saying that Hunter is a rich person and, therefore, of course he will be given privilege is no more acceptable to me than saying of course Trump should not go to jail as a rich former president.

And if you think lying to get a gun is OK, then what the **** are we talking about more gun control and back ground check. Apparently it's all a joke.

What does President Trump deserve to go to jail for. Beating Hillary and the Globalists?

..."After years of burying the story, the media is now attempting an even more precarious exercise. It is called controlled demolition: the implosion of a scandal to limit any blast effect on nearby structures or individuals." https://t.co/WwoRzM2Qxm

— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) June 20, 2023

For news junkies, there has been a remarkable and sudden shift in the media in the coverage of the Hunter Biden scandal. The shift is the very fact that there is suddenly coverage of the Hunter Biden scandal. From CNN to NPR, reporters are now acknowledging that the infamous laptop is not "Russian disinformation" as was widely claimed before the 2020 election. After years of burying the story, the media is now attempting an even more precarious exercise.

It is called controlled demolition: the implosion of a scandal to limit any blast effect on nearby structures or individuals. Like those buildings dropped between other structures, it takes precision and, most importantly, cooperation to pull off. Specifically, this controlled demolition will require the perfect timing of the media, Democratic politicians, and most importantly, the Justice Department.

Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

movielover said:

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So you buy the MSM claptrap.

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I buy the indictment and the confessions and confirmations that Trump has provided on subsequent interviews like an idiot.

dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

"Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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Poor Hunter. Always persecuted and treated so unfairly. Republicans usually get their kids $60K a month job with a foreign government funded companies but he only got $50K a month despite having no expertise other than having access to then VP. And he had to settle for Russian human trafficking ring instead of the domestic kind.

As far as how Feds usually treat people for lying on government forms, I think count 37 of the Trump indictment should clue you in on how they are treating Trump for making false statements on a government form. But Hunter is treated so much worse.

My heart breaks for Hunter for being so underprivileged and never getting a fair shake.

As I mentioned, despite all the virtue signaling, none of the outrage against Trump or Biden was about principle. It was about tribal identity. Each side is willing to forgive so easily anyone on their tribe and condemn anyone on the other side.

All theatrics, and no principles.

"Indeed, if Hunter's were a typical case, we could have expected a much more aggressive DOJ response. Mixing illegal drugs and firearms is usually a quick trip to the land of five- or seven-year mandatory minimum sentences. Whole initiatives, such as Project Safe Neighborhoods, have been built around getting offenders combining drugs and weapons off the streets."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

The DOJ did commit one cardinal sin... this Democrat White Privilege move should have been revealed in a Friday afternoon.

movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

"Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

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So, you're just lumping him in with armed robbers?

dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

"Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

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So, you're just lumping him in with armed robbers?

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No just other people accused of the same crime but are not sons of a rich corrupt president. Ridiculous to compare poor people with families of presidents who should be above the law. At least he is not Trump so he should have instead been given a medal of honor for obtaining guns illegally.

Biden is THE most corrupt president in history, and his administration is a mob operation.https://t.co/wLy5uxOvpp

— Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) June 20, 2023

movielover said:

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"Indeed, if Hunter's were a typical case, we could have expected a much more aggressive DOJ response. Mixing illegal drugs and firearms is usually a quick trip to the land of five- or seven-year mandatory minimum sentences. Whole initiatives, such as Project Safe Neighborhoods, have been built around getting offenders combining drugs and weapons off the streets."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

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Good to see TRUMP APPOINTED U.S. ATTORNEY DAVID WEISS "MAKING AMERICA SAFE AGAIN!"

Trump only appoints the BEST people!

Right Movielover?

James O'Keefe and OMG out Biden's BlackRock.

New undercover video from@JamesOKeefeIII exposes BlackRock:

-buying US Senators for $10k

-profiting off the Ukraine war

-Insider trading

-using $20 Trillion in assets to control much of the world

This is long overdue exposure of BlackRock’s evil
pic.twitter.com/BsyIkA646m

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) June 20, 2023

calbear93 said:

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dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

"Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

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So, you're just lumping him in with armed robbers?

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No just other people accused of the same crime but are not sons of a rich corrupt president. Ridiculous to compare poor people with families of presidents who should be above the law. At least he is not Trump so he should have instead been given a medal of honor for obtaining guns illegally.

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So you don't have the requested data either, huh?

Well, the powers-that-be have made it clear it’s time to move on from Hunter Biden. Okay, fine by me…moving on to the Big Guy and DOJ and FBI folks who conspired to obstruct justice.

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) June 20, 2023

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calbear93 said:

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dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

"Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

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So, you're just lumping him in with armed robbers?

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No just other people accused of the same crime but are not sons of a rich corrupt president. Ridiculous to compare poor people with families of presidents who should be above the law. At least he is not Trump so he should have instead been given a medal of honor for obtaining guns illegally.

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So you don't have the requested data either, huh?

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What?!

What are you now demanding from strangers?

Provide me with data that Biden didn't influence, despite messaging loud and clear that his son did nothing wrong while holding the power of the presidency and control of the DOJ, and that this was not a sweetheart deal despite the DATA that movielover provided that less than 1% of charges of illegally obtaining guns results in pretrial diversion and the link from the Marshall Project showing how often black kids in Chicago are sent to prison for illegal gun possession being the most severe charge without priors.

Show me the data that this was not a sweetheart deal and was not corruption by the Bidens.

I'm waiting.

Figured, no requested data, huh? Knew you were just making crap up.

dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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They threw the book at Hunter.

We have a two-tiered justice system that favors Republicans.

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody) (@AOCpressTwo) June 20, 2023

dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

"Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

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So, you're just lumping him in with armed robbers?

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That's the big question to me: are prosecutors usually tough on someone who illegally owns a gun but never seemed to have used it in any other crime? My guess is no, but I don't have the data.

sycasey said:

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dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

"Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

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So, you're just lumping him in with armed robbers?

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That's the big question to me: are prosecutors usually tough on someone who illegally owns a gun but never seemed to have used it in any other crime? My guess is no, but I don't have the data.

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So you liberals keep asking for data and ignore the data that we have provided, including from such conservative sources as the Marshall Project:

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/03/23/gun-violence-possession-police-chicago


"But in Chicago, a town labeled as "ChiRaq," a "war zone," and a "murder capital," gun enforcement overwhelmingly focuses on possession crimes not use.

A Marshall Project analysis found that from 2010 to 2022, the police made more than 38,000 arrests for illegal gun possession. These arrests almost always a felony doubled during this timeframe. While illegal possession is the most serious offense in most of the cases we analyzed, the charges often bear misleading names that imply violence, like "aggravated unlawful use of a weapon."

Recent research shows that most people convicted in Illinois for felony gun possession don't go on to commit a violent crime, and the majority of those sentenced to prison for gun possession don't have past convictions for violence. Instead, people who already committed violent crimes are more likely to do so again."

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calbear93 said:

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sycasey said:

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dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Once again the Democrat is treated worse than the Trumps but Hunter Biden is at least being indicted for Federal crimes. When the Republican Senate recommended perjury charges for Trump Jr, the Trump DOJ did nothing.

I don't know how the Feds usually treat people who lie on gun forms. Would be good to get some info on that. No evidence of any interference from Joe Biden which is a good thing.

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"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

"Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

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So, you're just lumping him in with armed robbers?

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That's the big question to me: are prosecutors usually tough on someone who illegally owns a gun but never seemed to have used it in any other crime? My guess is no, but I don't have the data.

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So you liberals keep asking for data and ignore the data that we have provided, including from such conservative sources as the Marshall Project

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The Marshall Project looked like it was mostly state law enforcement. Maybe I'm wrong - can't say I read it all. Definitely a two tiered system being applied there and in most places. going4roses tries to bring it to our attention all the time.

What I'm asking about are how these Federal charges are usually handled. I've looked around this afternoon but haven't found anything I find trustworthy (having rejected things I've read from the right and the left).

Today the Feds indicted Hunter for Federal crimes. If Delaware is coming with more indictments for state crimes I'm all for it as long as they are legitimate indictments.

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Maybe look at the DATA that moviehunter provided:

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/hunter-bidens-charges-are-nothing-but-a-diversion/

"The feds are notoriously tough on firearms. Nationally, for example, 94.2 percent of federal firearms convictions in 2022 involved some prison time, and the median sentence was 39 months.

Of course, Hunter won't even have to end up with a conviction. This is an even rarer event. In 2021, fewer than 1 percent of cases filed by U.S. attorneys in federal court resulted in the kind of pretrial diversion offered to Hunter.

But that's clearly not how things are shaking out in practice at DOJ, and President Biden has expressed an ongoing willingness to harshly punish firearms offenses. His DOJ is defending this law in court, and he signed a law in 2021 to increase maximum penalties from 10 years to 15 years in prison. Apparently, President Biden does not believe offenders should be treated with kid gloves at least when it's not his kid.

Indeed, if Hunter's were a typical case, we could have expected a much more aggressive DOJ response. Mixing illegal drugs and firearms is usually a quick trip to the land of five- or seven-year mandatory minimum sentences. Whole initiatives, such as Project Safe Neighborhoods, have been built around getting offenders combining drugs and weapons off the streets."