Best sports roster photos bar none.

2023-24 Men's Cross Country/Track Roster - Santa Clara University


https://santaclarabroncos.com/sports/mens-cross-country/roster

*My 1st place goes to Luke.

calpoly said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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He lost money while he was president..that's a known fact.

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He lost money before he was the president...that's a known fact. He is a terrible business person.

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He lost money while he was president and donated his federal government salary.

tequila4kapp said:

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sycasey said:

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As soon as Trump drops out of the Presidenial race, I'll stop thinking about him.

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Not directed specifically at you...

People with TDS will never stop. Their hatred of him is their religion.

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The funniest thing about the accusations of from non-Trump GOPers like t4k about "TDS" and "religion" is that there actually is a new religion being created by people with actual TDS - the Q dorks.

The rest of us who see Trump for who he is aren't the problem, it's the fact that he continues to be the only conservative in America who matters any more and the fact that his plurality of the conservative movement has completely and irretrievably gone off the deep end.

Rather than attempt to do anything about that, we continue to see "never Trumpers" focus their ire on the sane people who recognize him as the threat he remains, and for the damage he's caused our country and world. Forgive me if I continue to hold conservatives accountable for failing to choose the right side in the debate and continuing to support Trump through actions, if not words.

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In a May 13th article published in The Atlantic, Adrienne LaFrance offers her readers a deep dive into the QAnon movement. The article argues that when surveying QAnon, we're not only examining a conspiracy theory, we're observing the birth of a new religion. LaFrance underscores this argument by highlighting the apocalypticism found in QAnon; its clear-cut dualism between the forces of good and evil; the study and analysis of Qdrops as sacred texts, and the divine mystery of Q.

Following the mass suicide of the Peoples Temple in Jonestown in 1978, historian Jonathan Z. Smith wrote an essay locating the study and definition of religion within an academic context, where he highlights that "almost no attempt was made to gain any interpretative framework" of what occurred at Jonestown by academics. Adrienne LaFrance's article on QAnon makes clear that the movement and its believers demand to be taken seriously. Her piece acts as a springboard to ask the question: Can QAnon be considered a religion?

Though many enjoy mocking the QAnon conspiracy theories and those who profit from them, it's important to note that the movement's adherents firmly believe in the theorieseven to the detriment of their families and communities. Therefore, in an effort to avoid the mistakes of the past and to better understand the movement as it continues to grow and evolve, I suggest that we view QAnon as a "hyper-real religion."

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My opinion…

Trump's true base is a combo of anti-establishment drain the swamp types and people who believe in his America First economic populist agenda (and who also overlook his personal foibles / disbelieve the worst of things that are reported about him as left wing bias). Those issues and people are neither traditional conservatives or traditional Republicans, which is exactly why nobody else in the Republican party can beat Trump. People who try to co-opt those issues are simply Trump Mini-Me's, mostly without credibility. So ideologically that means he has to be beat by an actual conservative. But 1) so called actual conservatives are commonly establishment Republican who will never appeal to drain the swamp types (see Bush, Jeb). And 2) Trump adopts enough Conservative issues (pro-life) and has credibility on them (SCOTUS nominations) that he beats conservatives on their own issues. Trump is either the smartest politician in a few generations or the luckiest guy politically ever. Trump's people are never going away. He will have to die before they potentially move on to another candidate, at which point they likely fracture and become a non-political force. Until then…Trump is the guy, and Dems will keep winning the presidency as long as they continue to adopt the Mitch McConnell method for finding candidates (be as milk-toast as possible to appeal to the so called middle 3rd of voters as 'safe')

tequila4kapp said:

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blungld said:

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BearHunter said:

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Liberals don't hate Trump's policies as much as they just hate Trump. Tequilla4kapp is right, it's a religion.

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Religion: the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship.

I know you think it's cute and somehow persuasive to call someone else's thoughts a religion. Here's the problem. Religion involves a lot more than opinion or guiding principle or even an ideology. It involves a God or supernatural entity and a whole set of institutional and ritual elements. So no, a person wanting Trump to be brought to justice is an opinion no matter how strongly felt, not a religion. And "hating" Trump does not match with your inference that it is religious as in requiring obsession, irrationality, and blind loyalty/faith. One having a commitment to holding criminals to account is not an obsession, it's having a moral or ethical core.

But what I find most interesting is that in this context you denigrate the word religion but I assume that you and most Trump supporters are religious. So don't you admire religion and commitment to faith or belief? And wouldn't you use rationalizations like faith (versus reason or evidence or science) as the justification for your religious belief? So in the case that a person exercising faithful religious commitment to hating Trump (though people against Trump do not do this), you would be expected to understand and applaud them.

In short, your trolling is lacking in logic and barb-worthiness. It's another internet faaart from you.

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As a Cal alum I should think you capable of understanding when something is metaphorical, not literal. Just in case, this phraseology is one of those times.

It is metaphorical because - although it's not based in the belief in a deity - the application of the belief is so pervasive that it colors and provides context for virtually all of the person's views, choices, beliefs, etc

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90% of the people who use the phrase TDS or think that opposition to Trump is a religion worship Trump and/or spend their time obsessing over Hunter Biden's junk.

The metaphor you are using is most commonly just projection. You don't strike me as the kind of person who dresses like the dudes below or thinks Hunter Biden is the most dangerous person in the US so surely you can see that the people who have been most heavily impacted by Trump are those that fall for his grift, not those of us who call it like we see it.

I would love to see what happens when a "normal conservative" like you goes to a Trump, rally. I think you might stop pretending that it's the normal people who have been warped by Trump when you see what's become of so many of your fellow conservatives.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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BearHunter said:

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calpoly said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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He lost money while he was president..that's a known fact.

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He lost money before he was the president...that's a known fact. He is a terrible business person.

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He lost money while he was president and donated his federal government salary.

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Trump made more money from charging Secret Service agents and foreign diplomats for rooms at Trump Hotels than he would have collected in Presidential salary.

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Again, where's your evidence?

blungld said:

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BearHunter said:

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Liberals don't hate Trump's policies as much as they just hate Trump. Tequilla4kapp is right, it's a religion.

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Religion: the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship.

I know you think it's cute and somehow persuasive to call someone else's thoughts a religion. Here's the problem. Religion involves a lot more than opinion or guiding principle or even an ideology. It involves a God or supernatural entity and a whole set of institutional and ritual elements. So no, a person wanting Trump to be brought to justice is an opinion no matter how strongly felt, not a religion. And "hating" Trump does not match with your inference that it is religious as in requiring obsession, irrationality, and blind loyalty/faith. One having a commitment to holding criminals to account is not an obsession, it's having a moral or ethical core.

But what I find most interesting is that in this context you denigrate the word religion but I assume that you and most Trump supporters are religious. So don't you admire religion and commitment to faith or belief? And wouldn't you use rationalizations like faith (versus reason or evidence or science) as the justification for your religious belief? So in the case that a person exercising faithful religious commitment to hating Trump (though people against Trump do not do this), you would be expected to understand and applaud them.

In short, your trolling is lacking in logic and barb-worthiness. It's another internet faaart from you.

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I see, you were being serious when you mentioned Hitler, Stalin, Manson, Capone. In that case, no, TDS isn't a religion, it's a mental disorder.

Unit2Sucks said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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blungld said:

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BearHunter said:

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Liberals don't hate Trump's policies as much as they just hate Trump. Tequilla4kapp is right, it's a religion.

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Religion: the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship.

I know you think it's cute and somehow persuasive to call someone else's thoughts a religion. Here's the problem. Religion involves a lot more than opinion or guiding principle or even an ideology. It involves a God or supernatural entity and a whole set of institutional and ritual elements. So no, a person wanting Trump to be brought to justice is an opinion no matter how strongly felt, not a religion. And "hating" Trump does not match with your inference that it is religious as in requiring obsession, irrationality, and blind loyalty/faith. One having a commitment to holding criminals to account is not an obsession, it's having a moral or ethical core.

But what I find most interesting is that in this context you denigrate the word religion but I assume that you and most Trump supporters are religious. So don't you admire religion and commitment to faith or belief? And wouldn't you use rationalizations like faith (versus reason or evidence or science) as the justification for your religious belief? So in the case that a person exercising faithful religious commitment to hating Trump (though people against Trump do not do this), you would be expected to understand and applaud them.

In short, your trolling is lacking in logic and barb-worthiness. It's another internet faaart from you.

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As a Cal alum I should think you capable of understanding when something is metaphorical, not literal. Just in case, this phraseology is one of those times.

It is metaphorical because - although it's not based in the belief in a deity - the application of the belief is so pervasive that it colors and provides context for virtually all of the person's views, choices, beliefs, etc

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90% of the people who use the phrase TDS or think that opposition to Trump is a religion worship Trump and/or spend their time obsessing over Hunter Biden's junk.

The metaphor you are using is most commonly just projection. You don't strike me as the kind of person who dresses like the dudes below or thinks Hunter Biden is the most dangerous person in the US so surely you can see that the people who have been most heavily impacted by Trump are those that fall for his grift, not those of us who call it like we see it.

I would love to see what happens when a "normal conservative" like you goes to a Trump, rally. I think you might stop pretending that it's the normal people who have been warped by Trump when you see what's become of so many of your fellow conservatives.

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We will never know because I won't be found at a Trump rally. Ever.

BearHunter said:

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I see, you were being serious when you mentioned Hitler, Stalin, Manson, Capone. In that case, no, TDS isn't a religion, it's a mental disorder.

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I see that you missed my point and latched onto the word Hitler rather than the point I was making that people who stop criminal are not obsessed as in irrational but rather committed to stopping the crimes and injustice. But go ahead and freakout by a name I listed and tell me that this articulate well-educated Cal fan has a mental disorder because it makes you feel better rather than addressing my point.

blungld said:

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BearHunter said:

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I see, you were being serious when you mentioned Hitler, Stalin, Manson, Capone. In that case, no, TDS isn't a religion, it's a mental disorder.

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I see that you missed my point and latched onto the word Hitler rather than the point I was making that people who stop criminal are not obsessed as in irrational but rather committed to stopping the crimes and injustice. But go ahead and freakout by a name I listed and tell me that this articulate well-educated Cal fan has a mental disorder because it makes you feel better rather than addressing my point.

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Come on now, nobody sees the names Hitler, Stalin, Manson and Capone and thinks "criminal". Bernie Madoff, Elizabeth Holmes, Martha Stewart, the Wolf of Wall Street...sure, fine. Your list is genocidal lunatic (5 million Jews), genocidal lunatic (6-9 million Ukranians and Russians), the single most notorious mass murderer of the 1960s, and one of the most notorious mobsters in history. We fought a world war to stop Hitler. And you use him as an example of standing up to a criminal????

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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BearHunter said:

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calpoly said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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He lost money while he was president..that's a known fact.

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He lost money before he was the president...that's a known fact. He is a terrible business person.

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He lost money while he was president and donated his federal government salary.

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Trump made more money from charging Secret Service agents and foreign diplomats for rooms at Trump Hotels than he would have collected in Presidential salary.

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Again, where's your evidence?

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You don't care about evidence. You will ignore evidence. You will pretend it doesn't exist and go on your way. A few months from now, if the topic comes up again - you wlll ask for the evidence. You are a black hole of informative thought. It's pointless to provide you with evidence of anything.

Evidence:
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1129491352/trump-hotels-overcharged-secret-service-agents
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2022/11/14/foreign-officials-spent-750000-at-trumps-dc-hotel-while-lobbying-us-government-lawmakers-say/?sh=7ac294291f5a

dajo9 said:

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BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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BearHunter said:

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calpoly said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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He lost money while he was president..that's a known fact.

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He lost money before he was the president...that's a known fact. He is a terrible business person.

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He lost money while he was president and donated his federal government salary.

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Trump made more money from charging Secret Service agents and foreign diplomats for rooms at Trump Hotels than he would have collected in Presidential salary.

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Again, where's your evidence?

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You don't care about evidence. You will ignore evidence. You will pretend it doesn't exist and go on your way. A few months from now, if the topic comes up again - you wlll ask for the evidence. You are a black hole of informative thought. It's pointless to provide you with evidence of anything.

Evidence:
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1129491352/trump-hotels-overcharged-secret-service-agents
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2022/11/14/foreign-officials-spent-750000-at-trumps-dc-hotel-while-lobbying-us-government-lawmakers-say/?sh=7ac294291f5a

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Indeed! That's why I don't waste much of my time with him. It's like trying to have a discussion with someone waggling his fingers in his ears and saying "LA LA LA LA LA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

sonofabear51 said:

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Catturd sucks and is garbage.

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So, I was just swatted during my podcast.

The caller pretended to be me and told the cops - "I've stabbed someone, had a gun, and was going to kill myself."

This is the result of being doxxed over and over by leftist outlets. You can imagine how dangerous this is.

I'm okay,…

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) September 25, 2023

Catturd triggers.

dajo9 said:

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BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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BearHunter said:

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calpoly said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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He lost money while he was president.that's a known fact.

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He lost money before he was the president...that's a known fact. He is a terrible business person.

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He lost money while he was president and donated his federal government salary.

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Trump made more money from charging Secret Service agents and foreign diplomats for rooms at Trump Hotels than he would have collected in Presidential salary.

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Again, where's your evidence?

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You don't care about evidence. You will ignore evidence. You will pretend it doesn't exist and go on your way. A few months from now, if the topic comes up again - you wlll ask for the evidence. You are a black hole of informative thought. It's pointless to provide you with evidence of anything.

Evidence:
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1129491352/trump-hotels-overcharged-secret-service-agents
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2022/11/14/foreign-officials-spent-750000-at-trumps-dc-hotel-while-lobbying-us-government-lawmakers-say/?sh=7ac294291f5a

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President Trump is the first President in modern history who actually lost money during his time in the White House. President Trump left office with a net worth of about $2.5 billion, down from $4.5 billion when he announced his candidacy for president in 2015.

President Trump also kept his promise and donated all of his $1.6 million in salary to charity during his time in the White House.

How much did Trump personally make from selling hotel rooms?

tequila4kapp said:

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blungld said:

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BearHunter said:

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I see, you were being serious when you mentioned Hitler, Stalin, Manson, Capone. In that case, no, TDS isn't a religion, it's a mental disorder.

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I see that you missed my point and latched onto the word Hitler rather than the point I was making that people who stop criminal are not obsessed as in irrational but rather committed to stopping the crimes and injustice. But go ahead and freakout by a name I listed and tell me that this articulate well-educated Cal fan has a mental disorder because it makes you feel better rather than addressing my point.

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Come on now, nobody sees the names Hitler, Stalin, Manson and Capone and thinks "criminal". Bernie Madoff, Elizabeth Holmes, Martha Stewart, the Wolf of Wall Street...sure, fine. Your list is genocidal lunatic (5 million Jews), genocidal lunatic (6-9 million Ukranians and Russians), the single most notorious mass murderer of the 1960s, and one of the most notorious mobsters in history. We fought a world war to stop Hitler. And you use him as an example of standing up to a criminal????

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I explained my usage in my post. Yes I chose names that are threats to people and governments rather than financial criminal or jaywalkers, but I did explain my meaning but you just decided that meant something else all on your own.

dajo9 said:

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BearHunter said:

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dajo9 said:

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BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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BearHunter said:

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calpoly said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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He lost money while he was president.that's a known fact.

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He lost money before he was the president...that's a known fact. He is a terrible business person.

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He lost money while he was president and donated his federal government salary.

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Trump made more money from charging Secret Service agents and foreign diplomats for rooms at Trump Hotels than he would have collected in Presidential salary.

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Again, where's your evidence?

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You don't care about evidence. You will ignore evidence. You will pretend it doesn't exist and go on your way. A few months from now, if the topic comes up again - you wlll ask for the evidence. You are a black hole of informative thought. It's pointless to provide you with evidence of anything.

Evidence:
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1129491352/trump-hotels-overcharged-secret-service-agents
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2022/11/14/foreign-officials-spent-750000-at-trumps-dc-hotel-while-lobbying-us-government-lawmakers-say/?sh=7ac294291f5a

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President Trump is the first President in modern history who actually lost money during his time in the White House. President Trump left office with a net worth of about $2.5 billion, down from $4.5 billion when he announced his candidacy for president in 2015.

President Trump also kept his promise and donated all of his $1.6 million in salary to charity during his time in the White House.

How much did Trump personally make from selling hotel rooms?

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The article I linked says revenue from selling Trump hotels to secret service and foreign diplomats was $5.75 million. Trump ripped off the secret service and donating salary doesn't justify that.

Also, Trump assets were down because of Covid. Trump is a habitual loser, liar, and conman.

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Oh and I forgot to add that government officials and foreign officials have stayed at his properties prior to him becoming president and continue to do so. For the Secret Service, the article says $1.4 million but how much of that exceeded GSA rates? The article doesn't say.

blungld said:

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BearHunter said:

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President Trump is the first President in modern history who actually lost money during his time in the White House. President Trump left office with a net worth of about $2.5 billion, down from $4.5 billion when he announced his candidacy for president in 2015.

President Trump also kept his promise and donated all of his $1.6 million in salary to charity during his time in the White House.

How much did Trump personally make from selling hotel rooms?

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This shows a fundamental lack of understanding of corporate accounting and the tax/revenue dodges that Trump executes, and a willing ignorance to accept his misrepresentation and PR. It's embarrassing. Yes, Trump made nothing off Saudi deals, overcharging for usage of his properties, inflated valuations as president, side deals, endorsements, write offs, political contributions, grift from family members and associates...nothing. He just lost that president's salary that is so much money and he gave it to orphans.

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As it is illegal for presidents to decline their salary, he instead donated the money to various federal agencies