Gonzo journalism meets at the intersection of history and travel guide genres.

I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

TMZ has obtained footage showing the males allegedly involved in the deadly Kansas City Super Bowl rally mass shooting. A mother of two was shot dead and dozens of others, including children, were injured. The mass shooting has not garnered walk to wall attention on national… pic.twitter.com/xWlx4Nr3bc

— Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) February 18, 2024

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

bearister said:

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Gonzo journalism meets at the intersection of history and travel guide genres.

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Unfortunately I'm not a reader. Incredible right. My philosophy degree required nothing but reading and writing. I love my experiences walking throughout the entire city for a dozen years and I'd have no problem talking with anyone about there experiences but I couldn't handle sitting down and reading a book about SF. I do appreciate though you taking the time to bring this book to my attention. Just like folks are flabbergasted that I don't have any desire to take trips they are equally surprised that I don't enjoy reading books. The Cal degree fools them, I guess.

concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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Jesus Christ. What an insane interpretation. Spin.
Maybe Off Topic IS a cesspool, when the insane show up! I don't know how you people outdo yourselves.

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You expose your levels of TDS with these supposed outrages.

movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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You must be living in a cave.
As expected.

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Developer Trump used tried and true methods to evaluate his properties, which was reviewed by dozens of accountants, lawyers, real estate and government officials. He took out a loan (loans), and repaid the loans. Everybody was satisfied.


Do I have it right?

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No, you don't.

Timely and total repayment of loans does not extinguish the harm that false and misleading statements inflict on the marketplace.

oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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There is a widely viewed video of bystanders tackling one of the shooters. You can feed your obsession with race by going through that video frame by frame to determine his race. As for whether it was gang related, the news stories I saw described it as a personal dispute between a few people. That could be gang related or it could be a "you stole my girlfriend" or "you clowned me on Tik Tok" situation.

The Daily Mail published photos of those arrested the next day. The British tabs don't give a cat's arse.

AunBear89 said:

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Oh, shut up!

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USA! USA!

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Shut the hell up!

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USA! USA!

[Patriotism] is in itself a kind of religion: it does not reason, but it acts from the impulse of faith and sentiment.

Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

Ol' Alex saw you MAGA clowns and GOP goosesteppers coming almost 200 years ago.

pic.twitter.com/f2sRVXywVX

— Alexis de Tocqueville (@Tocqueville_DIA) August 15, 2022

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oski003 said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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I find your continued focus on the color of people's skin to be lamentable, at best.

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Whoops
Didn't mean to reply to my own post.

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concordtom said:

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Jesus Christ. What an insane interpretation. Spin.
Maybe Off Topic IS a cesspool, when the insane show up! I don't know how you people outdo yourselves.

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You expose your levels of TDS with these supposed outrages.

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Yes.
My level of "TDS" is extremely high.

Being able to express it here allows me to process, make sense of, the crazy things I see him say and do. Thank you, BI OT!

Please see Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger for a more restrained expression style.
They have the same level of TDS as me.

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concordtom said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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I find your continued focus on the color of people's skin to be lamentable, at best.

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I find yours lamentable as well.

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Please read the BOLD part of my post.
That's a takeaway that should trouble everyone.

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Developer Trump used tried and true methods to evaluate his properties…..

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Hahahaha!!

That's truly very funny!!!!!

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Now years later, Democrat Lawfare tactics have criminalized this lawful business conduct….

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Hahahaha!

This is also funny!
On two counts.

1) the use of this word "lawfare". You guys think this is a clever new concept word. It's getting used on each Foxnews show at least once. Allow me to reintroduce the word your actuall

2) "criminalized this lawful business conduct"…. No. It is NOT lawful. And that's why he's been charged AND CONVICTED!!!


sadly, not funny, I think the word you're looking for is ANARCHY. You and Trump seek ANARCHY.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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There is a widely viewed video of bystanders tackling one of the shooters. You can feed your obsession with race by going through that video frame by frame to determine his race. As for whether it was gang related, the news stories I saw described it as a personal dispute between a few people. That could be gang related or it could be a "you stole my girlfriend" or "you clowned me on Tik Tok" situation.

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Oski003 sees blacks + guns = gangs.
Jail, Elimination follow the thought process.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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There is a widely viewed video of bystanders tackling one of the shooters. You can feed your obsession with race by going through that video frame by frame to determine his race. As for whether it was gang related, the news stories I saw described it as a personal dispute between a few people. That could be gang related or it could be a "you stole my girlfriend" or "you clowned me on Tik Tok" situation.

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I don't have an obsession with race. I rarely post about it in a vacuum. 95% of the time it is in response to someone here asking for reparations, disparaging white people or Asians, or at least already in a racial discussion.

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Hmmm.
Allow me to guess.
This otherwise "vacuum" you live in is a white bubble, right? Engaging in such discussions here on BI is getting out there and mixing with the crowd, right?

AunBear89 said:

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[Patriotism] is in itself a kind of religion: it does not reason, but it acts from the impulse of faith and sentiment.

Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

Ol' Alex saw you MAGA clowns and GOP goosesteppers coming almost 200 years ago.

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8th grade social studies teacher had written on the board: "patriotism is great, except when it leads to war."

I wonder if he knew he would be quoted 40+ hence. I should look him up and see if he's still alive.

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— Alexis de Tocqueville (@Tocqueville_DIA) August 15, 2022

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Surely some aspects of America were distinct from what he previously knew in Europe. Certainly he was not referring to slavery. Not great.

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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There is a widely viewed video of bystanders tackling one of the shooters. You can feed your obsession with race by going through that video frame by frame to determine his race. As for whether it was gang related, the news stories I saw described it as a personal dispute between a few people. That could be gang related or it could be a "you stole my girlfriend" or "you clowned me on Tik Tok" situation.

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Oski003 sees blacks + guns = gangs.
Jail, Elimination follow the thought process.

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I said, "This seems more like a gang shooting" than a mass shooting, which brings images of Columbine. You two sure bring your own prejudice into things. It is certainly hard to debate things when you accuse or imply that folks are racist whenever anything negative is said about people of a minority group.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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There is a widely viewed video of bystanders tackling one of the shooters. You can feed your obsession with race by going through that video frame by frame to determine his race. As for whether it was gang related, the news stories I saw described it as a personal dispute between a few people. That could be gang related or it could be a "you stole my girlfriend" or "you clowned me on Tik Tok" situation.

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I don't have an obsession with race. I rarely post about it in a vacuum. 95% of the time it is in response to someone here asking for reparations, disparaging white people or Asians, or at least already in a racial discussion.

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Hmmm.
Allow me to guess.
This otherwise "vacuum" you live in is a white bubble, right? Engaging in such discussions here on BI is getting out there and mixing with the crowd, right?

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No, the vacuum would be me bringing up race without folks here already bringing up race. That should be clear for folks who objectively read my post. I live far from a white bubble. As I type this, the last 3 folks I just spoke to at my work were not white. I live in a big city and employ many workers, many of which are not white. My life is integrated with many races. I do not live in a gated community. I see folks of all races work hard and succeed or sometimes struggle. I also see folks of all races who don't have the drive to succeed, are incredibly immature, yet expect things to be given to them. I am on or at least near the front line.

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Touche!
From one fund manager to one non-"white-bubble" worker, you win this point!
Good on you!


PS: although, maybe that "front line" bit gives you away. Is that what makes you, uh, shall we say, "race focused"?

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I wonder why this mass killing has received no wall-to-wall coverage.

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. . . it has, though?

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Who are the mass shooters?

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These came to mind. Along with the Sandy hook guy.

But Wikipedia says:


According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men. By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[50][51] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[52] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[51] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50% of all mass shooters in the US.[53] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American.[30]

According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by white, middle-aged males. Felony-related mass shootings (connected with a previous crime) tend to be committed by young Black or Hispanic males with extensive criminal records, typically against people of the same ethnic group. Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole.[54][55] Other than gender, the demographic profiles of public mass shooters are too varied to draw firm conclusions.[54] In its 2014 active shooter incidents review, the FBI found that the perpetrator was female in only 6 of the 160 incidents (4%) and that in only 2 incidents (1%) was there more than one perpetrator.[42] Analogously, in December 2013, the Journal of Forensic Sciences published a sociodemographic network characteristics and antecedent behaviors survey of 119 lone-actor terrorists in the United States and Europe that found that 96.6% were male.

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I agree that white people are proportional to their population in premeditated mass shootings, like school shootings. Is that what happened here? This seems more like a gang shooting, which is predominantly done by minorities, despite being less of the population. We really don't know what race the shooters are because the media is being incredibly tight-lipped about it; far from simply naming names.

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There is a widely viewed video of bystanders tackling one of the shooters. You can feed your obsession with race by going through that video frame by frame to determine his race. As for whether it was gang related, the news stories I saw described it as a personal dispute between a few people. That could be gang related or it could be a "you stole my girlfriend" or "you clowned me on Tik Tok" situation.

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I don't have an obsession with race. I rarely post about it in a vacuum. 95% of the time it is in response to someone here asking for reparations, disparaging white people or Asians, or at least already in a racial discussion.

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Hmmm.
Allow me to guess.
This otherwise "vacuum" you live in is a white bubble, right? Engaging in such discussions here on BI is getting out there and mixing with the crowd, right?

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No, the vacuum would be me bringing up race without folks here already bringing up race. That should be clear for folks who objectively read my post. I live far from a white bubble. As I type this, the last 3 folks I just spoke to at my work were not white. I live in a big city and employ many workers, many of which are not white. My life is integrated with many races. I do not live in a gated community. I see folks of all races work hard and succeed or sometimes struggle. I also see folks of all races who don't have the drive to succeed, are incredibly immature, yet expect things to be given to them. I am on or at least near the front line.

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Touche!
From one fund manager to one non-"white-bubble" worker, you win this point!
Good on you!


PS: although, maybe that "front line" bit gives you away. Is that what makes you, uh, shall we say, "race focused"?

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Your interpretation of what I posted certainly reinforces that you are race focused.


Frontline workers:
Frontline workers are employees in an organization that provide some essential service to the general public. Not all essential workers are considered frontline workers.

The distinction is based on how much interaction they have with people, and whether they're customers or recipients of the service provided. For example, frontline workers have a higher rate of face-to-face interactions than essential workers, who aren't necessarily required to work in public-facing roles.

Some essential workers can work from home, while frontline workers usually have to report in-person to complete their job responsibilities. Both essential and frontline workers help society function and contribute to the economic growth of the communities in which they live and serve.