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tequila4kapp
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concordtom said:

movielover said:



Maybe sex education is a good thing.
What this guy calls P0RN could be an avenue toward understanding human sexuality that all go through. Your accusations in little tweets are meaningless. Examination of the texts and age and context are required.
Have you ever experienced oral sex? Therefore, stfu with your bs.
This is a memoir in the form of a graphic novel that deals with the author's coming out as a lesbian and discovery that her father was homosexual. That is not sex education.

Here is the one page from the piece that's most controversial:


[Irony alert: the content filter for this web site is blocking the screen shot from the novel. It is 3 panels, 2 showing one girl's face in the harry vagina of her lover; in the other her face is merely between her lover's naked legs]

Context, the degree to which the graphic is necessary to advance the story and other things matter. I have not read it so I don't know. But my default position is pictorials of explicit sex acts is inappropriate for minor audiences. Straight vs gay is irrelevant - I would say the exact same thing if the graphic novel showed a women with a ***** in her mouth.
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

AunBear89 said:

Ah, the conservative credo: if it costs money, and our donor class can't make a profit off it, then it's bad - even if it helps fix something. Conservatives only fix things if they can make money from the process.


While Progressives are after Power. They also love their unproven, untested, often counter-productive, experimental programs. And when they don't work, it's bc said failed programs need more time, more Billions.


You mean like Trump's wall?
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
movielover
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Yah, all those Trump wars. s/
movielover
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DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

AunBear89 said:

Ah, the conservative credo: if it costs money, and our donor class can't make a profit off it, then it's bad - even if it helps fix something. Conservatives only fix things if they can make money from the process.


While Progressives are after Power. They also love their unproven, untested, often counter-productive, experimental programs. And when they don't work, it's bc said failed programs need more time, more Billions.


You mean like Trump's wall?



Trumps 570-odd miles of 30' Wall are very effective.

What's failed?

1. Biden canceled 200 more miles of approved new Wall
2. Biden canceled Remain in Mexico
3. Biden lost 28,000 Mexican troops guarding the border
4. Biden signaled illegal immigration to resume, just like Newsom
5. Multiple NGOs took signals and fired up a historic illegal invasion
6. Biden officials had gates in the Wall welded open
7. Sanctuary cities & the Feds offer reportedly $4-5,000 per month for illegals, health care, free lodging, etc.
Etc.
concordtom
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Cal88 said:



That book is pornographic, it should not be in a school library. You can see some of the content in that tweet thread. Pushing this content onto minors amounts to grooming.


Like, maybe the librarian hopes to be able to commit pedophilia after placing the book on the shelf?
concordtom
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tequila4kapp said:

concordtom said:

movielover said:



Maybe sex education is a good thing.
What this guy calls P0RN could be an avenue toward understanding human sexuality that all go through. Your accusations in little tweets are meaningless. Examination of the texts and age and context are required.
Have you ever experienced oral sex? Therefore, stfu with your bs.
This is a memoir in the form of a graphic novel that deals with the author's coming out as a lesbian and discovery that her father was homosexual. That is not sex education.

Here is the one page from the piece that's most controversial:


[Irony alert: the content filter for this web site is blocking the screen shot from the novel. It is 3 panels, 2 showing one girl's face in the harry vagina of her lover; in the other her face is merely between her lover's naked legs]

Context, the degree to which the graphic is necessary to advance the story and other things matter. I have not read it so I don't know. But my default position is pictorials of explicit sex acts is inappropriate for minor audiences. Straight vs gay is irrelevant - I would say the exact same thing if the graphic novel showed a women with a ***** in her mouth.

Without looking up the graphic in your post, I'll agree with your post.

Anyways, why are we even discussing this?
Oh yeah - because MovieLover posted another gay/trans phobic tweet, and I stupidly replied to it.

Maybe MovieLover is the one who should have the ***** in his mouth.
oski003
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concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

concordtom said:

movielover said:



Maybe sex education is a good thing.
What this guy calls P0RN could be an avenue toward understanding human sexuality that all go through. Your accusations in little tweets are meaningless. Examination of the texts and age and context are required.
Have you ever experienced oral sex? Therefore, stfu with your bs.
This is a memoir in the form of a graphic novel that deals with the author's coming out as a lesbian and discovery that her father was homosexual. That is not sex education.

Here is the one page from the piece that's most controversial:


[Irony alert: the content filter for this web site is blocking the screen shot from the novel. It is 3 panels, 2 showing one girl's face in the harry vagina of her lover; in the other her face is merely between her lover's naked legs]

Context, the degree to which the graphic is necessary to advance the story and other things matter. I have not read it so I don't know. But my default position is pictorials of explicit sex acts is inappropriate for minor audiences. Straight vs gay is irrelevant - I would say the exact same thing if the graphic novel showed a women with a ***** in her mouth.

Without looking up the graphic in your post, I'll agree with your post.

Anyways, why are we even discussing this?
Oh yeah - because MovieLover posted another gay/trans phobic tweet, and I stupidly replied to it.

Maybe MovieLover is the one who should have the ***** in his mouth.


You had a knee jerk emotional reaction and you were wrong, and you have resorted to calling someone homophobic because it makes you feel better when you defend having pornography in public schools.
Unit2Sucks
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Was this in a high school library or middle school or elementary school? Inexcusable to be in an elementary school.

That said, the GOP believes in taking child brides and thinks 10 year olds should be forced to carry their rapist's fetuses to term so I'm not sure where they like to draw the line. I think by the time kids hit high school, a comic book with sex in it should be the least of the parent's concerns and unfortunately for many kids they are already well beyond this in middle school.

I do understand why parents, even of high school aged children, would find this offensive and would agree that it's reasonable to challenge whether this book should be in a public high school library. But I don't think it's grooming or any of that other silliness that the grifters like to pretend is happening.

EDIT: Found this article. The book in question has been in the high school library for 16 years and has been checked out twice. Probably by people who have a good reason to read it. This seems like inappropriate outrage.

I also see another book on the ban request list - Drama by Reina Telgemeier, which both of my elementary school kids have read (so far it hasn't turned either gay).

All together, this is just more evidence of bad faith by the book ban people. This is far closer to christofascism than it is to protecting our kids from pornography. Wake me when these crusaders start banning the bible for rape, incest and genocide.
concordtom
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60 Minutes just ran a segment on the topic of book banning.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/book-ban-battle-south-carolina-school-district-60-minutes-video-2024-03-03/

Anyone who has engaged in this topic should watch it.
concordtom
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oski003 said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

concordtom said:

movielover said:



Maybe sex education is a good thing.
What this guy calls P0RN could be an avenue toward understanding human sexuality that all go through. Your accusations in little tweets are meaningless. Examination of the texts and age and context are required.
Have you ever experienced oral sex? Therefore, stfu with your bs.
This is a memoir in the form of a graphic novel that deals with the author's coming out as a lesbian and discovery that her father was homosexual. That is not sex education.

Here is the one page from the piece that's most controversial:


[Irony alert: the content filter for this web site is blocking the screen shot from the novel. It is 3 panels, 2 showing one girl's face in the harry vagina of her lover; in the other her face is merely between her lover's naked legs]

Context, the degree to which the graphic is necessary to advance the story and other things matter. I have not read it so I don't know. But my default position is pictorials of explicit sex acts is inappropriate for minor audiences. Straight vs gay is irrelevant - I would say the exact same thing if the graphic novel showed a women with a ***** in her mouth.

Without looking up the graphic in your post, I'll agree with your post.

Anyways, why are we even discussing this?
Oh yeah - because MovieLover posted another gay/trans phobic tweet, and I stupidly replied to it.

Maybe MovieLover is the one who should have the ***** in his mouth.


You had a knee jerk emotional reaction and you were wrong, and you have resorted to calling someone homophobic because it makes you feel better when you defend having pornography in public schools.


Uh, let's stop and think about this.
No, you're wrong.
I agreed with tequila's post.
I did have a knee jerk reaction to MovieLover's phobic post. Because it was and he is.
No regrets or hard feelings.
oski003
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concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

concordtom said:

movielover said:



Maybe sex education is a good thing.
What this guy calls P0RN could be an avenue toward understanding human sexuality that all go through. Your accusations in little tweets are meaningless. Examination of the texts and age and context are required.
Have you ever experienced oral sex? Therefore, stfu with your bs.
This is a memoir in the form of a graphic novel that deals with the author's coming out as a lesbian and discovery that her father was homosexual. That is not sex education.

Here is the one page from the piece that's most controversial:


[Irony alert: the content filter for this web site is blocking the screen shot from the novel. It is 3 panels, 2 showing one girl's face in the harry vagina of her lover; in the other her face is merely between her lover's naked legs]

Context, the degree to which the graphic is necessary to advance the story and other things matter. I have not read it so I don't know. But my default position is pictorials of explicit sex acts is inappropriate for minor audiences. Straight vs gay is irrelevant - I would say the exact same thing if the graphic novel showed a women with a ***** in her mouth.

Without looking up the graphic in your post, I'll agree with your post.

Anyways, why are we even discussing this?
Oh yeah - because MovieLover posted another gay/trans phobic tweet, and I stupidly replied to it.

Maybe MovieLover is the one who should have the ***** in his mouth.


You had a knee jerk emotional reaction and you were wrong, and you have resorted to calling someone homophobic because it makes you feel better when you defend having pornography in public schools.


Uh, let's stop and think about this.
No, you're wrong.
I agreed with tequila's post.
I did have a knee jerk reaction to MovieLover's phobic post. Because it was snd he is.
No regrets or hard feelings.


Yes, you had a knee jerk emotional reaction and you were wrong, and you have resorted to calling someone homophobic because it makes you feel better when you defend having pornography in public schools.
movielover
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The Guardian: Oregon undoes groundbreaking drug decriminalization law

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/02/oregon-overturn-drug-decriminalize-law
tequila4kapp
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movielover said:

The Guardian: Oregon undoes groundbreaking drug decriminalization law

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/02/oregon-overturn-drug-decriminalize-law
Thank God. Measure 110 has been a nightmare. The bill originally promised to replace prison with treatment. Shortly after the measure passed the Governor announced a lack of funding meant no treatment options for 2-3 years, and we were off an running for a disaster.

The devil will be in the details for the alleged fixes. For example, under 110 the treatment requirement was administered terribly. It has been reported people were given the contact info for treatment options but not required to participate. If the new fix is anything like that it won't work. But I digress. This state is a mess right now so anything even tries to fix this mess is really really welcome.
tequila4kapp
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SCOTUS unanimously holds states cannot remove candidates for federal office from the ballot per 14th Amendment's Insurrection clause; they can do it for state offices.

Jackson, Barret, Sotomayor and Kagan write separately to disagree with a section of the ruling which requires certain Congressional actions to use the clause.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.
oski003
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.


I heard this site was the #1 hacking target of an Iranian sleeper cell
concordtom
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oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

concordtom said:

movielover said:



Maybe sex education is a good thing.
What this guy calls P0RN could be an avenue toward understanding human sexuality that all go through. Your accusations in little tweets are meaningless. Examination of the texts and age and context are required.
Have you ever experienced oral sex? Therefore, stfu with your bs.
This is a memoir in the form of a graphic novel that deals with the author's coming out as a lesbian and discovery that her father was homosexual. That is not sex education.

Here is the one page from the piece that's most controversial:


[Irony alert: the content filter for this web site is blocking the screen shot from the novel. It is 3 panels, 2 showing one girl's face in the harry vagina of her lover; in the other her face is merely between her lover's naked legs]

Context, the degree to which the graphic is necessary to advance the story and other things matter. I have not read it so I don't know. But my default position is pictorials of explicit sex acts is inappropriate for minor audiences. Straight vs gay is irrelevant - I would say the exact same thing if the graphic novel showed a women with a ***** in her mouth.

Without looking up the graphic in your post, I'll agree with your post.

Anyways, why are we even discussing this?
Oh yeah - because MovieLover posted another gay/trans phobic tweet, and I stupidly replied to it.

Maybe MovieLover is the one who should have the ***** in his mouth.


You had a knee jerk emotional reaction and you were wrong, and you have resorted to calling someone homophobic because it makes you feel better when you defend having pornography in public schools.


Uh, let's stop and think about this.
No, you're wrong.
I agreed with tequila's post.
I did have a knee jerk reaction to MovieLover's phobic post. Because it was snd he is.
No regrets or hard feelings.


Yes, you had a knee jerk emotional reaction and you were wrong, and you have resorted to calling someone homophobic because it makes you feel better when you defend having pornography in public schools.


I REJECT the allegation and stand by my prior testimony.

You Trumpian types have really bought into the "say it enough times and it'll be true" mindset.

"Trump won, Trump won."
Oh, geez.



Note: you can tell this is AI because when he actually goes to jail his face will no longer be stained orange, his hair will grow to its natural white, and it won't be combed and artificially sprayed stiff.

In other words, he will look more like the POS he actually is.

The ironic thing is, there's nothing wrong with white hair and untanned skin. But there is something very wrong with deception, presenting things not as they are, outright lying and bold claims - which is precisely why he'll be going to jail.

And it's what's wrong about your post. Thankfully, you won't go to jail for it.
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

DiabloWags said:




You mean like Trump's wall?



Trumps 570-odd miles of 30' Wall are very effective.



You should use Fact-Checking.
You wouldn't appear so deaf, dumb, and blind here.
Or are you one of those rare birds that just enjoys being DUPED 24/7?

Facts First: Trump's "571 miles" claim is false, an even greater exaggeration than the inaccurate "561 miles" and "over 500 miles" claims he has made at other points of his campaign. An official report by US Customs and Border Protection, written two days after Trump left office and subsequently obtained by CNN's Priscilla Alvarez, said the total number built under Trump was 458 miles including both wall built where no barriers had existed before and wall built to replace previous barriers. Trump has sometimes put the figure, more correctly, at "nearly 500 miles."

Fifty-two of the 458 miles built under Trump was "primary" wall that was built in parts of the border where no barriers previously existed. The rest was 33 miles of "secondary" wall that was built in spots where no barriers previously existed, plus 373 miles of primary and secondary wall that was built to replace previous barriers the federal government says had become "dilapidated and/or outdated."

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
DiabloWags
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.

I nominate this post for POST OF THE YEAR.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
concordtom
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tequila4kapp said:

movielover said:

The Guardian: Oregon undoes groundbreaking drug decriminalization law

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/02/oregon-overturn-drug-decriminalize-law
Thank God. Measure 110 has been a nightmare. The bill originally promised to replace prison with treatment. Shortly after the measure passed the Governor announced a lack of funding meant no treatment options for 2-3 years, and we were off an running for a disaster.

The devil will be in the details for the alleged fixes. For example, under 110 the treatment requirement was administered terribly. It has been reported people were given the contact info for treatment options but not required to participate. If the new fix is anything like that it won't work. But I digress. This state is a mess right now so anything even tries to fix this mess is really really welcome.


Maybe the fix should be that Sesame Street and Barney should start brainwashing children at the earliest of ages that drug addiction is the very worst of outcomes for individuals and society as a whole.

Maybe we should censor all tv and film which shows people enjoying or even casually doing drugs.

Outlaw SNL drug jokes, which appear weekly and which normalize this insidious scourge for influential teens.
concordtom
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oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.


I heard this site was the #1 hacking target of an Iranian sleeper cell

I guess you'd know, he of the "front lines".
concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

DiabloWags said:




You mean like Trump's wall?



Trumps 570-odd miles of 30' Wall are very effective.



You should use Fact-Checking.
You wouldn't appear so deaf, dumb, and blind here.
Or are you one of those rare birds that just enjoys being DUPED 24/7?

Facts First: Trump's "571 miles" claim is false, an even greater exaggeration than the inaccurate "561 miles" and "over 500 miles" claims he has made at other points of his campaign. An official report by US Customs and Border Protection, written two days after Trump left office and subsequently obtained by CNN's Priscilla Alvarez, said the total number built under Trump was 458 miles including both wall built where no barriers had existed before and wall built to replace previous barriers. Trump has sometimes put the figure, more correctly, at "nearly 500 miles."

Fifty-two of the 458 miles built under Trump was "primary" wall that was built in parts of the border where no barriers previously existed. The rest was 33 miles of "secondary" wall that was built in spots where no barriers previously existed, plus 373 miles of primary and secondary wall that was built to replace previous barriers the federal government says had become "dilapidated and/or outdated."




Google Trump wall breached.
Plenty of stories.

I'm not saying it's not a deterrent, but there are thousands of miles. GOP has no perfect solution, but they sure want to blame democrats while not working with us on finding best options.

They like the problem.
They market off it.




oski003
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concordtom said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.


I heard this site was the #1 hacking target of an Iranian sleeper cell

I guess you'd know, he of the "front lines".


I don't think Iran uses Arby's drive thrus as sleeper cells. Regardless, I hope you eventually realize you defended pornography in a public school and attacked a poster for being homophobic because you didn't bother to see what was actually in that book. That is why I called it a emotional knee jerk reaction.
concordtom
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oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.


I heard this site was the #1 hacking target of an Iranian sleeper cell

I guess you'd know, he of the "front lines".


I don't think Iran uses Arby's drive thrus as sleeper cells. Regardless, I hope you eventually realize you defended pornography in a public school and attacked a poster for being homophobic because you didn't bother to see what was actually in that book. That is why I called it a emotional knee jerk reaction.

Or you could simply ask, "what was it about ML's post that gave you a knee jerk response calling him phobic?"
oski003
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concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.


I heard this site was the #1 hacking target of an Iranian sleeper cell

I guess you'd know, he of the "front lines".


I don't think Iran uses Arby's drive thrus as sleeper cells. Regardless, I hope you eventually realize you defended pornography in a public school and attacked a poster for being homophobic because you didn't bother to see what was actually in that book. That is why I called it a emotional knee jerk reaction.

Or you could simply ask, "what was it about ML's post that gave you a knee jerk response calling him phobic?"


Why would you make two posts implying the book isn't pornographic without actually looking to see if the book was pornographic? Why would you argue something without investigating it first?
Cal88
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oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.


I heard this site was the #1 hacking target of an Iranian sleeper cell

This kind of reminds me of a relative's business in Houston, optometry clinics. In the many years after 9/11, their business would drop drastically whenever the Homeland Department color code alert system went from yellow to orange or something like that...
tequila4kapp
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concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

movielover said:

The Guardian: Oregon undoes groundbreaking drug decriminalization law

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/02/oregon-overturn-drug-decriminalize-law
Thank God. Measure 110 has been a nightmare. The bill originally promised to replace prison with treatment. Shortly after the measure passed the Governor announced a lack of funding meant no treatment options for 2-3 years, and we were off an running for a disaster.

The devil will be in the details for the alleged fixes. For example, under 110 the treatment requirement was administered terribly. It has been reported people were given the contact info for treatment options but not required to participate. If the new fix is anything like that it won't work. But I digress. This state is a mess right now so anything even tries to fix this mess is really really welcome.
Maybe the fix should be that Sesame Street and Barney should start brainwashing children at the earliest of ages that drug addiction is the very worst of outcomes for individuals and society as a whole.

Maybe we should censor all tv and film which shows people enjoying or even casually doing drugs.

Outlaw SNL drug jokes, which appear weekly and which normalize this insidious scourge for influential teens.
Drug use and addiction has meaning to me because it has been very prevalent in my family. There is no compassion in enabling drug use; addiction is a brutal cross to bear for the addict and their family/friends.

Measure 110 has had legit and tangible negative effects. As but one minor example, I brought my softball team to a tournament in Salem. We were warming up in an open space between the softball fields and a forest. Turns out there is a massive homeless encampment inside the forest. A drugged out homeless person came out of the woods with a machete, waving it around and moving toward the girls. I got them out of there and reported it to security. Security refused to do anything or call the police. He explained the homeless commit crime but escape back in to the woods when they see the police coming, so there's no point in trying. We were so lucky that nobody got hacked up. Another example with a less fortunate outcome: the homeless took up residency on the corner opposite my place of employment, regularly doing drugs in the open. One day one of them found their way into my employer's place of business and violently attacked a security guard in the head with a hammer. There are variations of this theme all over the state. For as troubling as these near-violent incidences were for me they are worse for the addict. Nobody should live like that. This is not the way a civil society should be. Again, it was not always like this. Enabling drug use was a predictably stupid disaster.
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concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

concordtom said:

movielover said:



Maybe sex education is a good thing.
What this guy calls P0RN could be an avenue toward understanding human sexuality that all go through. Your accusations in little tweets are meaningless. Examination of the texts and age and context are required.
Have you ever experienced oral sex? Therefore, stfu with your bs.
This is a memoir in the form of a graphic novel that deals with the author's coming out as a lesbian and discovery that her father was homosexual. That is not sex education.

Here is the one page from the piece that's most controversial:


[Irony alert: the content filter for this web site is blocking the screen shot from the novel. It is 3 panels, 2 showing one girl's face in the harry vagina of her lover; in the other her face is merely between her lover's naked legs]

Context, the degree to which the graphic is necessary to advance the story and other things matter. I have not read it so I don't know. But my default position is pictorials of explicit sex acts is inappropriate for minor audiences. Straight vs gay is irrelevant - I would say the exact same thing if the graphic novel showed a women with a ***** in her mouth.

Without looking up the graphic in your post, I'll agree with your post.

Anyways, why are we even discussing this?
Oh yeah - because MovieLover posted another gay/trans phobic tweet, and I stupidly replied to it.

Maybe MovieLover is the one who should have the ***** in his mouth.


It's ok to say someone on the other side is right, uh, correct. And then stop.
concordtom
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tequila4kapp said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

movielover said:

The Guardian: Oregon undoes groundbreaking drug decriminalization law

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/02/oregon-overturn-drug-decriminalize-law
Thank God. Measure 110 has been a nightmare. The bill originally promised to replace prison with treatment. Shortly after the measure passed the Governor announced a lack of funding meant no treatment options for 2-3 years, and we were off an running for a disaster.

The devil will be in the details for the alleged fixes. For example, under 110 the treatment requirement was administered terribly. It has been reported people were given the contact info for treatment options but not required to participate. If the new fix is anything like that it won't work. But I digress. This state is a mess right now so anything even tries to fix this mess is really really welcome.
Maybe the fix should be that Sesame Street and Barney should start brainwashing children at the earliest of ages that drug addiction is the very worst of outcomes for individuals and society as a whole.

Maybe we should censor all tv and film which shows people enjoying or even casually doing drugs.

Outlaw SNL drug jokes, which appear weekly and which normalize this insidious scourge for influential teens.
Drug use and addiction has meaning to me because it has been very prevalent in my family. There is no compassion in enabling drug use; addiction is a brutal cross to bear for the addict and their family/friends.

Measure 110 has had legit and tangible negative effects. As but one minor example, I brought my softball team to a tournament in Salem. We were warming up in an open space between the softball fields and a forest. Turns out there is a massive homeless encampment inside the forest. A drugged out homeless person came out of the woods with a machete, waving it around and moving toward the girls. I got them out of there and reported it to security. Security refused to do anything or call the police. He explained the homeless commit crime but escape back in to the woods when they see the police coming, so there's no point in trying. We were so lucky that nobody got hacked up. Another example with a less fortunate outcome: the homeless took up residency on the corner opposite my place of employment, regularly doing drugs in the open. One day one of them found their way into my employer's place of business and violently attacked a security guard in the head with a hammer. There are variations of this theme all over the state. For as troubling as these near-violent incidences were for me they are worse for the addict. Nobody should live like that. This is not the way a civil society should be. Again, it was not always like this. Enabling drug use was a predictably stupid disaster.


Yes, my brother got engaged with drugs at 13, and though he's still alive and doing reasonably okay by comparison to many, his life has been pretty crappy compared to his potential. I'll spare all the horrible details.

Yes, we value freedom.
Freedom of speech, to own machine guns, to do what we want in the privacy of our own homes.
But it comes at a tremendous cost. Because mankind is foolish in the end.


DiabloWags
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concordtom said:



Google Trump wall breached.
Plenty of stories.

I'm not saying it's not a deterrent, but there are thousands of miles.

THOUSANDS OF MILES, EH?

That's pure fantasy.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
concordtom
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oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.


I heard this site was the #1 hacking target of an Iranian sleeper cell

I guess you'd know, he of the "front lines".


I don't think Iran uses Arby's drive thrus as sleeper cells. Regardless, I hope you eventually realize you defended pornography in a public school and attacked a poster for being homophobic because you didn't bother to see what was actually in that book. That is why I called it a emotional knee jerk reaction.

Or you could simply ask, "what was it about ML's post that gave you a knee jerk response calling him phobic?"


Why would you make two posts implying the book isn't pornographic without actually looking to see if the book was pornographic? Why would you argue something without investigating it first?


Reading comprehension, please.
I didn't say it "wasn't".
I suggested it could….. can we go back and parse text please.
concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

concordtom said:



Google Trump wall breached.
Plenty of stories.

I'm not saying it's not a deterrent, but there are thousands of miles.

THOUSANDS OF MILES, EH?

That's pure fantasy.



The border is thousands of miles, yes.
Like, 2500, give or take.

The current fence is fractional to that.

So, what I was saying is that the fence is a deterrent, not an absolute solution, AND can be defeated. Therefore, as Dems have been saying since forever, a more wholistic unified solution(s) needs to be found.

But Trump knows Americans are simpleminded lemmings:

"Build The Wall
Build The Wall
Build The Wall"

Not a solution.


I think you merely misunderstood me.
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82gradDLSdad said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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movielover said:



Maybe sex education is a good thing.
What this guy calls P0RN could be an avenue toward understanding human sexuality that all go through. Your accusations in little tweets are meaningless. Examination of the texts and age and context are required.
Have you ever experienced oral sex? Therefore, stfu with your bs.
This is a memoir in the form of a graphic novel that deals with the author's coming out as a lesbian and discovery that her father was homosexual. That is not sex education.

Here is the one page from the piece that's most controversial:


[Irony alert: the content filter for this web site is blocking the screen shot from the novel. It is 3 panels, 2 showing one girl's face in the harry vagina of her lover; in the other her face is merely between her lover's naked legs]

Context, the degree to which the graphic is necessary to advance the story and other things matter. I have not read it so I don't know. But my default position is pictorials of explicit sex acts is inappropriate for minor audiences. Straight vs gay is irrelevant - I would say the exact same thing if the graphic novel showed a women with a ***** in her mouth.

Without looking up the graphic in your post, I'll agree with your post.

Anyways, why are we even discussing this?
Oh yeah - because MovieLover posted another gay/trans phobic tweet, and I stupidly replied to it.

Maybe MovieLover is the one who should have the ***** in his mouth.


It's ok to say someone on the other side is right, uh, correct. And then stop.


Yes, but in this case I want ML to suck on it!!!
… or more like Choke, Gag, and be sprayed upon.

Hahaha. Where's Bearister when you need him?!?!
oski003
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concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

concordtom said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

It's amazing how quiet it gets in Off Topic when there are internet problems in Europe and the Middle East.


I heard this site was the #1 hacking target of an Iranian sleeper cell

I guess you'd know, he of the "front lines".


I don't think Iran uses Arby's drive thrus as sleeper cells. Regardless, I hope you eventually realize you defended pornography in a public school and attacked a poster for being homophobic because you didn't bother to see what was actually in that book. That is why I called it a emotional knee jerk reaction.

Or you could simply ask, "what was it about ML's post that gave you a knee jerk response calling him phobic?"


Why would you make two posts implying the book isn't pornographic without actually looking to see if the book was pornographic? Why would you argue something without investigating it first?


Reading comprehension, please.
I didn't say it "wasn't".
I suggested it could….. can we go back and parse text please.


Reading comprehension please.

Why would you make two posts IMPLYING the book isn't pornographic without actually looking to see if the book was pornographic? Why would you argue something without investigating it first?
SFCityBear
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DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

DiabloWags said:




You mean like Trump's wall?



Trumps 570-odd miles of 30' Wall are very effective.



You should use Fact-Checking.
You wouldn't appear so deaf, dumb, and blind here.
Or are you one of those rare birds that just enjoys being DUPED 24/7?

Facts First: Trump's "571 miles" claim is false, an even greater exaggeration than the inaccurate "561 miles" and "over 500 miles" claims he has made at other points of his campaign. An official report by US Customs and Border Protection, written two days after Trump left office and subsequently obtained by CNN's Priscilla Alvarez, said the total number built under Trump was 458 miles including both wall built where no barriers had existed before and wall built to replace previous barriers. Trump has sometimes put the figure, more correctly, at "nearly 500 miles."

Fifty-two of the 458 miles built under Trump was "primary" wall that was built in parts of the border where no barriers previously existed. The rest was 33 miles of "secondary" wall that was built in spots where no barriers previously existed, plus 373 miles of primary and secondary wall that was built to replace previous barriers the federal government says had become "dilapidated and/or outdated."


I'm not saying that any of Trump's statements are correct, but I would question your sources as much as you question Donald Trump's statements. What leads you to believe that "US Customs and Border Patrol", the "Federal Government" , and an employee of CNN, are all truthful when it comes to disseminating information? Customs and Border Protection is run by a very dishonest bird, and his trying to hide the invasion at the border is one example. Which government agency is well-trusted today when it comes to public statements? Let's start with the Center for Disease Control. How about Transportation? That's a real winner, on the sea, in the air, and the rails. Justice? The FBI? No, they are always accurate, aren't they? As for CNN, they have been in the pocket of the Far Left for as far back as my memory goes. There is a lot of propaganda out there on the airwaves, on all sides.
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