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8:12a, 9/25/24
That is kind of surprising:



Jill Stein at 4% among young voters, pretty significant. Gaza is a factor here.
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:19a, 9/25/24
Dr. Michael Savage called it years ago, Latinos like a strong leader, and many Central and South Americans understand the evils of Socialism.

More country stars alleged drugging, Freak Offs, rapes, alleged ... murder? Jay Z?

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In reply to movielover • 11:03a, 9/25/24
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MICC or idiots Blinken and Sullivan? Or is this Mrs. Jill Biden?

If Turkey would do this to Russia what makes us think they won't turn around and do the same thing to us? What a horrible horrible "ally"
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In reply to movielover • 11:07a, 9/25/24
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Dr. Michael Savage called it years ago, Latinos like a strong leader, and many Central and South Americans understand the evils of Socialism.

More country stars alleged drugging, Freak Offs, rapes, alleged ... murder? Jay Z?

And many are rooted in Catholicism / traditional definitions of things. There is an entire swath of the liberal social agenda that is at odds with that demographic.
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In reply to bearister • 11:09a, 9/25/24
bearister said:
Principles of Donald Trump:

Winning is the supreme value

Never apologize

Never admit being wrong

Losers are beneath contempt

Impatience is a virtue

Never let them see you sweat (Corollary: Never sweat)

A loud lie becomes truth

Poor people are losers

When hit, hit back harder

Label your enemies with unflattering tags and repeat relentlessly

Intimidate whenever possible

Humility is for losers

If you don't know the answer, change the subject

-Steven N. Czetli
The bolded are not unique to Trump or Trump's side of the isle. And don't forget to also include Lawfare and the deep state on the D's side of the ledger.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 2:12p, 9/25/24
tequila4kapp said:
movielover said:
Dr. Michael Savage called it years ago, Latinos like a strong leader, and many Central and South Americans understand the evils of Socialism.

More country stars alleged drugging, Freak Offs, rapes, alleged ... murder? Jay Z?

And many are rooted in Catholicism / traditional definitions of things. There is an entire swath of the liberal social agenda that is at odds with that demographic.

The economy - inflation and the decline in purchasing power is also a factor. Ironically, purchasing power has been on the rise in Mexico and parts of central America, El Salvador for example is booming, net migration with the US in now negative.
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5:27a, 9/26/24
FBI Whistleblowers - short - FBI over classifying, ...





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2:57p, 9/26/24
I'm so sick of this, $16.7 billion that doesn't exist being printed and given away. Maybe our politicians need to start an Only Fans so they can pay us back for their reckless decisions.







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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 5:41p, 9/26/24
MinotStateBeav said:
I'm so sick of this, $16.7 billion that doesn't exist being printed and given away. Maybe our politicians need to start an Only Fans so they can pay us back for their reckless decisions.








Honestly, I would find it refreshing if a candidate said something like,,,

"Sorry, I know nobody likes to pay taxes, but I do not plan on lowering them. And I want servers in restaurants to vote for me, but I'm not going to pander to them. I support Ukraine and Israel, but we don't have unlimited money to give them. People need to understand that the annual budget deficit and the national debt are getting out of hand. Again, sorry, but that's the truth: Vote for me for telling it like it is!"
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In reply to Big C • 6:13a, 9/27/24
Big C said:
MinotStateBeav said:
I'm so sick of this, $16.7 billion that doesn't exist being printed and given away. Maybe our politicians need to start an Only Fans so they can pay us back for their reckless decisions.








Honestly, I would find it refreshing if a candidate said something like,,,

"Sorry, I know nobody likes to pay taxes, but I do not plan on lowering them. And I want servers in restaurants to vote for me, but I'm not going to pander to them. I support Ukraine and Israel, but we don't have unlimited money to give them. People need to understand that the annual budget deficit and the national debt are getting out of hand. Again, sorry, but that's the truth: Vote for me for telling it like it is!"


Yes!

I'd start with folks who go against their own party's beliefs. Dean Phillips is one. Even Chris Christie still hates Trump (last I checked) and is still a Republican. No one is perfect but geez a lot of these people are such shills. They are using the 'running for class president ' strategy: whatever I need to promise; it doesn't cost me anything.
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In reply to movielover • 8:55a, 9/27/24
movielover said:
He is fighting for his life. Literally. He doesn't know who's going to win, he's just being pragmatic in engaging both parties. Kinda like how corporations donate to both sides.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 8:59a, 9/27/24
tequila4kapp said:
movielover said:
He is fighting for his life. Literally. He doesn't know who's going to win, he's just being pragmatic in engaging both parties. Kinda like how corporations donate to both sides.
This is of course the obvious answer, but the Loomers of the world just gotta keep slinging those conspiracy theories around.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 9:20a, 9/27/24
tequila4kapp said:
movielover said:
He is fighting for his life. Literally. He doesn't know who's going to win, he's just being pragmatic in engaging both parties. Kinda like how corporations donate to both sides.


Maybe Trump Weapons Inc is looking for new customers.
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In reply to 82gradDLSdad • 10:37a, 9/27/24
Note: all the wars ans Afghanistan giveaway started under Biden - Harris.
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In reply to movielover • 11:28a, 9/27/24
movielover said:

It's kind of promising for Ukrainians yet to be drafted and their families to know that one of the two main presidential candidates will work towards stopping the ongoing Ukrainian conscript meat grinder.

Mearsheimer however doesn't think that Trump will be able to overcome the neocon/MIC/Blackrock blob that wants endless war in Ukraine, or at least the war to go on to the last Ukrainian...
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In reply to Cal88 • 12:39p, 9/27/24
Cal88 said:
movielover said:

It's kind of promising for Ukrainians yet to be drafted and their families to know that one of the two main presidential candidates will work towards stopping the ongoing Ukrainian conscript meat grinder.

Mearsheimer however doesn't think that Trump will be able to overcome the neocon/MIC/Blackrock blob that wants endless war in Ukraine, or at least the war to go on to the last Ukrainian...


We'll know if Trump gets close to stopping the war. He'll get JFKed.
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In reply to 82gradDLSdad • 1:44p, 9/27/24
82gradDLSdad said:
Cal88 said:
movielover said:

It's kind of promising for Ukrainians yet to be drafted and their families to know that one of the two main presidential candidates will work towards stopping the ongoing Ukrainian conscript meat grinder.

Mearsheimer however doesn't think that Trump will be able to overcome the neocon/MIC/Blackrock blob that wants endless war in Ukraine, or at least the war to go on to the last Ukrainian...

We'll know if Trump gets close to stopping the war. He'll get JFKed.

If Trump didn't turn his head in Butler, Pennsylvania, he would have been.
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In reply to movielover • 2:06p, 9/27/24
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?
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In reply to OsoDorado • 2:19p, 9/27/24
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.
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In reply to Cal88 • 2:27p, 9/27/24
Cal88 said:
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.

He hasn't articulated why being President would change his "very good" relationship with Putin, so why doesn't he leverage that good relationship now and prove he's as great of a deal-maker as he claims?

Edit: Answer is he won't do it because he's a liar and a fraud. If he could do it now, he would win the election and stay out of jail, which proves he can't.
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In reply to OsoDorado • 2:32p, 9/27/24
OsoDorado said:
Cal88 said:
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.

He hasn't articulated why being President would change his "very good" relationship with Putin, so why doesn't he leverage that good relationship now and prove he's as great of a deal-maker as he claims?

Edit: Answer is he won't do it because he's a liar and a fraud. If he could do it now, he would win the election and stay out of jail, which proves he can't.

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.
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In reply to OsoDorado • 3:05p, 9/27/24
OsoDorado said:
Cal88 said:
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.

He hasn't articulated why being President would change his "very good" relationship with Putin, so why doesn't he leverage that good relationship now and prove he's as great of a deal-maker as he claims?

Edit: Answer is he won't do it because he's a liar and a fraud. If he could do it now, he would win the election and stay out of jail, which proves he can't.
Ridiculous. He can do nothing right now, because he is not President. He has no power. He has no control over our support of Ukraine. He has no chips in this game. What is he going to offer Putin or Zelensky? The executive suite in one of his hotels? Free golf at Doral or Mar a Lago for a day? Trump has to get elected, in order for either Putin or Zelensky to listen to him and agree to move an inch. Zelensky might cave to a bribe, with Trump spending his personal fortune on him. But Putin probably is richer (and certainly is more powerful) than Trump, and probably can't be bribed in that way.
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In reply to SFCityBear • 3:29p, 9/27/24
SFCityBear said:
OsoDorado said:
Cal88 said:
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.

He hasn't articulated why being President would change his "very good" relationship with Putin, so why doesn't he leverage that good relationship now and prove he's as great of a deal-maker as he claims?

Edit: Answer is he won't do it because he's a liar and a fraud. If he could do it now, he would win the election and stay out of jail, which proves he can't.
Ridiculous. He can do nothing right now, because he is not President. He has no power. He has no control over our support of Ukraine. He has no chips in this game. What is he going to offer Putin or Zelensky?

Precisely. He can't end the war "in one day" now because he obviously has no skills in real persuasion (i.e., real "deal-making"), so he could never do it (even hypothetically) unless he had the power to threaten Zelensky.

You want the war to end on Putin's terms (and keep Trump out of jail)? Vote Trump!
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In reply to OsoDorado • 3:40p, 9/27/24


Zelensky looked extremely uncomfortable during the entire meeting. He looked so different compared to the other day when he was all smiles as he was signing bombs in Pennsylvania.
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In reply to OsoDorado • 5:14p, 9/27/24
OsoDorado said:
SFCityBear said:
OsoDorado said:
Cal88 said:
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.

He hasn't articulated why being President would change his "very good" relationship with Putin, so why doesn't he leverage that good relationship now and prove he's as great of a deal-maker as he claims?

Edit: Answer is he won't do it because he's a liar and a fraud. If he could do it now, he would win the election and stay out of jail, which proves he can't.
Ridiculous. He can do nothing right now, because he is not President. He has no power. He has no control over our support of Ukraine. He has no chips in this game. What is he going to offer Putin or Zelensky?

Precisely. He can't end the war "in one day" now because he obviously has no skills in real persuasion (i.e., real "deal-making"), so he could never do it (even hypothetically) unless he had the power to threaten Zelensky.

You want the war to end on Putin's terms (and keep Trump out of jail)? Vote Trump!
Even more ridiculous. Trump kept Putin out of Ukraine for 4 years just by being President.
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In reply to SFCityBear • 5:19p, 9/27/24
SFCityBear said:
OsoDorado said:
SFCityBear said:
OsoDorado said:
Cal88 said:
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.

He hasn't articulated why being President would change his "very good" relationship with Putin, so why doesn't he leverage that good relationship now and prove he's as great of a deal-maker as he claims?

Edit: Answer is he won't do it because he's a liar and a fraud. If he could do it now, he would win the election and stay out of jail, which proves he can't.
Ridiculous. He can do nothing right now, because he is not President. He has no power. He has no control over our support of Ukraine. He has no chips in this game. What is he going to offer Putin or Zelensky?

Precisely. He can't end the war "in one day" now because he obviously has no skills in real persuasion (i.e., real "deal-making"), so he could never do it (even hypothetically) unless he had the power to threaten Zelensky.

You want the war to end on Putin's terms (and keep Trump out of jail)? Vote Trump!
Even more ridiculous. Trump kept Putin out of Ukraine for 4 years just by being President.

It's "ridiculous" to say Trump winning would keep him out of jail and do everything possible to end the war on Putin's Terms? How so?
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In reply to OsoDorado • 7:15p, 9/27/24
1. Trump is a leader; Biden is a grifter now sadly using a sippy cup on a beach

2. Trump had no new wars and 5 peace deals

3. Not one American soldier was harmed in 18 months in Afghanistan as President Trump delivered a threat to protect American servicemen to the terrorist leader. (Sadly, his Swamp advisors and MIC shills didn't start removing tens of Billions of stockpiles of American military equipment in advance of a planned pullout)

4. President Trump also gave Vladimir Putin a stern warning to prevent an invasion of Ukraine
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In reply to SFCityBear • 8:06p, 9/27/24
SFCityBear said:
OsoDorado said:
SFCityBear said:
OsoDorado said:
Cal88 said:
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.

He hasn't articulated why being President would change his "very good" relationship with Putin, so why doesn't he leverage that good relationship now and prove he's as great of a deal-maker as he claims?

Edit: Answer is he won't do it because he's a liar and a fraud. If he could do it now, he would win the election and stay out of jail, which proves he can't.
Ridiculous. He can do nothing right now, because he is not President. He has no power. He has no control over our support of Ukraine. He has no chips in this game. What is he going to offer Putin or Zelensky?

Precisely. He can't end the war "in one day" now because he obviously has no skills in real persuasion (i.e., real "deal-making"), so he could never do it (even hypothetically) unless he had the power to threaten Zelensky.

You want the war to end on Putin's terms (and keep Trump out of jail)? Vote Trump!
Even more ridiculous. Trump kept Putin out of Ukraine for 4 years just by being President.


Washington is a bigger prize than Kiev
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In reply to sonofabear51 • 9:12p, 9/27/24
sonofabear51 said:
tRump is not a leader, has never been a leader, and is nothing more than a bully and a grifter. F you, and F him.

And I agree with dajo9 a bit here, that DC is a much bigger prize than Kiev.

Oh, BTW, just go away.

NOW


Hitting the bottle early?

Trump: no new wars, 5 peace deals, secure border, no inflation, no threat of nuclear war, Ukraine safe

Biden-Harris: TWO major wars, over one million DEAD, 0 peace deals, border wide open, 10-20 million new illegal immigrants here, historic inflation, real nuclear war potential, Ukraine and NATO wrecked
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In reply to sonofabear51 • 11:21p, 9/27/24
sonofabear51 said:
tRump is not a leader, has never been a leader, and is nothing more than a bully and a grifter. F you, and F him.

And I agree with dajo9 a bit here, that DC is a much bigger prize than Kiev.

Oh, BTW, just go away.

NOW

sonofabear51 is having his concordtom moment for all to see. They all do eventually.

take slow deep breaths....
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9:41a, 9/28/24


Which include:

The data says that, among those not in detention, there are;

2,521 convicted kidnappers

13,099 convicted murderers

14,301 convicted of burglary

15,811 convicted of sexual assault

56,533 with drug convictions

62,231 convicted of assault
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In reply to OsoDorado • 2:26p, 9/28/24
OsoDorado said:
SFCityBear said:
OsoDorado said:
SFCityBear said:
OsoDorado said:
Cal88 said:
OsoDorado said:
movielover said:

Trump says he "has a very good relationship with both Zelensky and Putin," and that he "will end the war in Ukraine in one day" (if elected again).

But if he has such a good relationship with Putin right now, why doesn't he end the war today? Why does he want to wait to first be elected to end the war?

Because he's not the president right now, he's just a dude from Queens who spends a lot of time in his Florida shack.

He hasn't articulated why being President would change his "very good" relationship with Putin, so why doesn't he leverage that good relationship now and prove he's as great of a deal-maker as he claims?

Edit: Answer is he won't do it because he's a liar and a fraud. If he could do it now, he would win the election and stay out of jail, which proves he can't.
Ridiculous. He can do nothing right now, because he is not President. He has no power. He has no control over our support of Ukraine. He has no chips in this game. What is he going to offer Putin or Zelensky?

Precisely. He can't end the war "in one day" now because he obviously has no skills in real persuasion (i.e., real "deal-making"), so he could never do it (even hypothetically) unless he had the power to threaten Zelensky.

You want the war to end on Putin's terms (and keep Trump out of jail)? Vote Trump!
Even more ridiculous. Trump kept Putin out of Ukraine for 4 years just by being President.

It's "ridiculous" to say Trump winning would keep him out of jail and do everything possible to end the war on Putin's Terms? How so?
It is ridiculous to say "You want....." when you have no idea of what I want. Know your own mind, before you try and tell others what their minds are thinking.
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