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82gradDLSdad
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Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
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SBGold
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82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt
tequila4kapp
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SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt
she doesn't have any authority / ability to do anything, does she?
SBGold
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tequila4kapp said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt
she doesn't have any authority / ability to do anything, does she?
Uh, she's 2nd in command in the Executive Branch, hell yes she has authority
tequila4kapp
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SBGold said:

tequila4kapp said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt
she doesn't have any authority / ability to do anything, does she?
Uh, she's 2nd in command in the Executive Branch, hell yes she has authority
Not unless Biden officially gave them to her. The C lays out the 2 or 3 VP official duties and FEMA isn't one of them.
dimitrig
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movielover said:

I just watched a video of an Indian Democrat tech Billionaire who voted D in 2016 and 2020. He met Trump at a fundraiser and said he's funny and personable.

He said he woke up in 2022, and that Trump's persona overshadows his opposite.

Then he realized that the Charlottesville alleged racist comments weren't; and in fact President Trump said the exact opposite. So he appears to have flipped.


Well, he's funny and personable. Sounds good to me!
SBGold
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tequila4kapp said:

SBGold said:

tequila4kapp said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt
she doesn't have any authority / ability to do anything, does she?
Uh, she's 2nd in command in the Executive Branch, hell yes she has authority
Not unless Biden officially gave them to her. The C lays out the 2 or 3 VP official duties and FEMA isn't one of them.
Of course he gave the role to assist. She's done it with several other states.

According to the Hill site today:

"Alyssa Farah Griffin, a former Trump White House official-turned-critic of the former president, said on CNN that it was "entirely appropriate" for Harris to be reaching out to officials on the ground.

"I worked for Vice President Pence, and anytime there was a major natural disaster, he would also be calling governors, members of Congress in the areas that were affected. It's not just the president," she said."
bear2034
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SBGold said:

tequila4kapp said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt
she doesn't have any authority / ability to do anything, does she?
Uh, she's 2nd in command in the Executive Branch, hell yes she has authority
Doctor Jill Biden?
bear2034
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All the momentum that was generated after Kamala became the nominee has vanished. Democrats are in big trouble but we're still waiting for some October surprise.
SBGold
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You get triggered easily
bear2034
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SBGold said:

You get triggered easily
You project.
82gradDLSdad
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SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt


How far down any company line do you go when you've talked with the top person and you have a schedule full of things to do?
SBGold
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82gradDLSdad said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt


How far down any company line do you go when you've talked with the top person and you have a schedule full of things to do?
When it's handling a natural disaster of that kind of proportion, it's pretty far. It's easy to tell many of you have not been involved in governmental agencies that have had to be involved in handling public issues.
dimitrig
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Kamala is a horse**** candidate.

She would not have won the Democratic primary.

Biden's corpse stands a better chance of winning.

I just hope that enough people hate Donald to vote against him.
82gradDLSdad
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SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt


How far down any company line do you go when you've talked with the top person and you have a schedule full of things to do?
When it's handling a natural disaster of that kind of proportion, it's pretty far. It's easy to tell many of you have not been involved in governmental agencies that have had to be involved in handling public issues.


You're right about me. I sat behind a computer and worked with a friend that I met the first day of work 40 years ago. Pretty sweet deal...for me at least.
SBGold
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82gradDLSdad said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt


How far down any company line do you go when you've talked with the top person and you have a schedule full of things to do?
When it's handling a natural disaster of that kind of proportion, it's pretty far. It's easy to tell many of you have not been involved in governmental agencies that have had to be involved in handling public issues.


You're right about me. I sat behind a computer and worked with a friend that I met the first day of work 40 years ago. Pretty sweet deal...for me at least.
I would say so. Plus you get those Chick's Donuts on the weekly!
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dimitrig said:


Kamala is a horse**** candidate.

She would not have won the Democratic primary.

Biden's corpse stands a better chance of winning.

I just hope that enough people hate Donald to vote against him.

I think I would have preferred Shapiro.

If she loses, the next in line for the Dems in the next election will be fascinating. Probably Newsom's to lose
82gradDLSdad
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SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt


How far down any company line do you go when you've talked with the top person and you have a schedule full of things to do?
When it's handling a natural disaster of that kind of proportion, it's pretty far. It's easy to tell many of you have not been involved in governmental agencies that have had to be involved in handling public issues.


You're right about me. I sat behind a computer and worked with a friend that I met the first day of work 40 years ago. Pretty sweet deal...for me at least.
I would say so. Plus you get those Chick's Donuts on the weekly!


This is very true. I can testify that no one at Chick's on Saturday morning 5-8 has been in government either. Do sit with a couple of lawyers though.
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dimitrig said:


Kamala is a horse**** candidate.

She would not have won the Democratic primary.

Biden's corpse stands a better chance of winning.

I just hope that enough people hate Donald to vote against him.



At least a few on the Left see that she's a disaster who never garnered a single vote.

As Elon Musk said, it's not about her - its one puppet being exchanged for another.

That's another reason they hate Trump:

- he'll close the border (Congress blocked funding to do that)
- he'll stop the Russia-Ukraine war
- he'll lower runaway inflation

The MIC wants endless wars, this is clear.
movielover
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Fox News: "The network will debut "FOX Noticias," a daily one-hour Spanish-language program, starting October 15. The show will air weekdays at 4 p.m. ET on FOX Deportes. John Sylvester, Fox News Senior Vice President, shared the announcement on Tuesday. "FOX & Friends Weekend" co-host Rachel Campos-Duffy will be the face of the new program, leading the effort to expand FOX News Media's reach within the Spanish-speaking community."

Great timing, busy lady, mother to nine children.
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dimitrig said:


Kamala is a horse**** candidate.

She would not have won the Democratic primary.

Biden's corpse stands a better chance of winning.

I just hope that enough people hate Donald to vote against him.

People can be critical of the campaign, but I don't see the argument that Biden would have a better chance of winning. He bombed the debate and was behind in the polls before Kamala took over.
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movielover said:

Fox News: "The network will debut "FOX Noticias," a daily one-hour Spanish-language program, starting October 15. The show will air weekdays at 4 p.m. ET on FOX Deportes. John Sylvester, Fox News Senior Vice President, shared the announcement on Tuesday. "FOX & Friends Weekend" co-host Rachel Campos-Duffy will be the face of the new program, leading the effort to expand FOX News Media's reach within the Spanish-speaking community."

Great timing, busy lady, mother to nine children.
Rachel has been loony since the time she was on the Real World
bear2034
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dimitrig said:


Kamala is a horse**** candidate.

She would not have won the Democratic primary.

Biden's corpse stands a better chance of winning.

I just hope that enough people hate Donald to vote against him.


We can still write in Joe Biden's name on our ballots can't we?
bear2034
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sycasey said:

dimitrig said:


Kamala is a horse**** candidate.

She would not have won the Democratic primary.

Biden's corpse stands a better chance of winning.

I just hope that enough people hate Donald to vote against him.

People can be critical of the campaign, but I don't see the argument that Biden would have a better chance of winning. He bombed the debate and was behind in the polls before Kamala took over.

Kamala had a better debate performance with Trump than Biden did but people already knew Biden was slowing down. With Kamala, her inauthenticity, which was previously hidden (except on Twitter), is now being exposed for all to see.
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tequila4kapp said:

From there - assuming we are talking about 6 little boxes of self tests - it is a bad look, especially for a guy with an America First agenda. But if it turns out to be 6 self tests it doesn't materially affect the US population and it is probably smart and good for a President to foster good relations with other world leaders, even (maybe especially) an evil SOB like Putin.
And of course there is ZERO NADA ABSOLUTELY NO WAY you would come to this same "reasonable" dispassionate analysis if Obama or Biden had done the exact same thing. Most of the posters on the right on this board who remain are just not serious people who have detached from reality or have pushed their loyalty to cult-level adherence. You are one of the few who has not gone that far, but is a consistent hypocritical apologist who kids himself that he is more of a centrist.
The Bear will not quilt, the Bear will not dye!
bear2034
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I'll give credit to dajo9 who at least embraces his extremism and thinks the Biden admin could have been more radical.
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blungld said:


And of course there is ZERO NADA ABSOLUTELY NO WAY you would come to this same "reasonable" dispassionate analysis if Obama or Biden had done the exact same thing. Most of the posters on the right on this board who remain are just not serious people who have detached from reality or have pushed their loyalty to cult-level adherence.
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A friend and I saw this trend six or more months ago. My friend was convinced there was a notable swing; but I wondered about confirmation bias or such as I follow a couple of conservative AA sources.

The mass invasion of illegal immigrants given housing in upscale hotels, VA medical access, and thousands on debit cards has riled up some urban communities.

But Congressman Jim Clyburn still has the AME Church voter distribution and collection system in key swing states.
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SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

SBGold said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Why speak with the VP when you are already talking with the P.
Why not talk to her unless you a desanctimonius horse's butt


How far down any company line do you go when you've talked with the top person and you have a schedule full of things to do?
When it's handling a natural disaster of that kind of proportion, it's pretty far. It's easy to tell many of you have not been involved in governmental agencies that have had to be involved in handling public issues.
Ding! Ding! Ding!

Nailed it. As some who works in a governmental agency at a local level, people at the national levels have a limited and superficial idea about what's being done 4-6 levels down the departmental chain of command, even during a high profile emergency. They do their best, but they are coming in cold and trying to get caught up fast. They especially try not to get tripped up on the small details they haven't been well briefed on, so they don't get too deep into the weeds. At the same time, they encourage the local people to refer interviews and requests for information to national public affairs officers so the messaging stays consistent if bland.
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calpoly said:

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movielover said:

Cheers.


She has to get loose and relaxed to be able to perform all those hand gestures she uses for bait to hook an audience. She has more oh so smooth hand maneuvers than a centipede has legs, all designed to reel us in, and keep our attention away from her word salad. The hand movements look so practiced and perfectly timed. She must have practiced them for years, maybe since she was a babe in a cradle. Amazing.
You are f**cking weird. Get a life.
And I used to think Cal Poly was a great school. And it was, for practical knowledge. I used to hire engineers for construction work, and kids from Cal Poly had practical training. They knew how to make working drawings. They knew the difference between a bolt and a nut. My dad had an architectural firm for 50 years, and hired young architects as draftsmen. He said the Cal Poly grads were the best, because they knew right away how to make a working drawing, and he didn't have to spend time time teaching them how to do the basic work. The architecture grads from Cal could give you a Buckminster Fuller dome, but did not know how to put two pieces of wood together. Cal grads were taught ivory tower thinking, dreams.

I expected more from you, really.
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bear2034 said:

SBGold said:

You get triggered easily
You project.

Says the guy that has posted 44 times today and it's not even 5PM PST.

You're Living The Dream!

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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OsoDorado said:

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Precisely. Trump can't end the war "in one day" now because he obviously has no skills in real persuasion (i.e., real "deal-making"), so he could never do it (even hypothetically) unless he had the power to threaten Zelensky.

You want the war to end on Putin's terms (and keep Trump out of jail)? Vote Trump!

Untrue and simplistic.

....You have to be able to persuade so many people, all with their own interests at stake, to finish a (property development/construction) project successfully. Of course, you can hire some people to negotiate much of these issues, but the bigger decisions will require you to be persuasive yourself. You will sink or swim, depending on many things, one of which is your ability to persuade. Trump was successful there, loved by some, hated by some, but he was successful, and the buildings prove it.

Yes, I like simple explanations when they are true. But:

1) Whatever "skills in real persuasion" Trump may have had as a property developer in New York, you can only claim he still has them if you haven't noticed his precipitous cognitive decline, especially in the last 4 years ;

2) If he actually had the same "skills of persuasion" as before and such a great relationship with both Zelensky and Putin, why would he need "power" to convince both leaders his solution for ending the war is in their mutual interest? Also, do you really believe Trump's claim that he could end the war "in one day"? ; and finally

3) You didn't address my claim that (if elected) Trump would (use his new "power" to) try to force Zelensky to essentially accept Putin's demands in order to "end the war".

So, whose claims are "untrue and simplistic"?
Why do you feel the need to put your words in bold type, and then putting the ones you used before in bold type? Do you think I can't read?

What does "skills in real persuasion" even mean?

Who says Trump has had a "precipitous cognitive decline"? I think you have been watching too much MSNBC, where mental lightweights impersonate journalists for a living. What Trump may have lost in a little cognitive decline, he may have gained in all the wisdom he should now have after 4 years of accomplishments in a world unfamiliar to him, politics. Accomplishments with so much of the deck stacked against him, fighting the Democrats, and over half of the Republicans, along with oh, say, 98% of the media, and a lot of the people he hired in his own administration, all trying to sabotage him at every term. Hopefully, he will have gained enough wisdom to hire better people to help him. Elon Musk is a helluva start, don't you think?

I have no idea whether "Trump has a great relationship with Zelensky and Putin." And I don't think you know that either, do you?

I did not say he would need "power" to convince them of anything. I meant he had no status or no skin in the game (as a private citizen) to deal with these two men. He has nothing to offer them, except his personal wealth maybe, and why would he want to do that?

I don't believe the claims of any politicians. I try to pay little attention to their words. I try to look only at their accomplishments, after the fact, because so many of them lie like rugs.

As to your claim, I guess I failed to notice that. I don't know that Trump has to force Zelensky to cave to Putin. All he has to do is stop giving Mr Z all the weapons and ammo. Putin may take his gains and quit anyway. Who knows? He only likes to invade when a weak Democrat is in charge in Washington, (Obama or Biden). If it is Kamala, well, take a wild guess what Putin would do. I have no idea. I would rather have the devil I know than the devil I don't know in the White House.

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movielover said:

Obama peace deal: 0
Biden peace deals: 0
Trump peace deals: 5

Biden-Harris operatives talking about cognitive decline is rich.

Next.
Do those 5 peace deals include the one Trump (and Rick Grennel) brokered between Serbia and Kosovo?

Biden later sabotaged the deal by saying that the Balkans would not be a priority any longer.
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Biden shushes Kamala Harris, and then takes a little dig, referring to her as the President.

https://rumble.com/v5ibxi5-biden-shushes-kamala-during-live-conference-appears-to-hit-her-with-sly-dig.html
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