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Cal88
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sycasey said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals

Ashli Babbitt.
And this is a relevant example how?

Unarmed protestor gunned down, peanut gallery approves.
philly1121
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bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals
Not really. When you consider that Dylan Roof killed 9 African American people in a church with the express intent of starting a race war (his words) but Luigi Mangione kills one CEO and is now charged as a domestic terrorist. Nope. Doesn't make me wonder.
philly1121
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Cal88 said:

sycasey said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals

Ashli Babbitt.
And this is a relevant example how?

Unarmed protestor gunned down, peanut gallery approves.
Almost 4 years on and you're still on about this? Seen her videos? Went into a building of her own accord. FAFO. I blame the Great Leader.
MinotStateBeav
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If Speaker Johnson passes this CR he's an absolute traitor man. Thomas Massie called it 3 months ago.
1500 page omnibus with cutouts for a new NFL stadium in D.C., more ukraine money....cuz why not? Just stuffed with pork nobody has read that was made behind closed doors and it's so bad he needs democrat votes to pass it.
Here is massie 3 months ago.


oski003
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philly1121 said:

Cal88 said:

sycasey said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals

Ashli Babbitt.
And this is a relevant example how?

Unarmed protestor gunned down, peanut gallery approves.
Almost 4 years on and you're still on about this? Seen her videos? Went into a building of her own accord. FAFO. I blame the Great Leader.


I am in a building right now. Should I be gunned down?
smh
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> I am in a building right now. Should I be gunned down?

that's a hard one. if you're breaking down a door, defended by overwhelmed security, ummm, probably?
muting more than 300 handles, turnaround is fair play
sycasey
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Cal88 said:

sycasey said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals

Ashli Babbitt.
And this is a relevant example how?

Unarmed protestor gunned down, peanut gallery approves.
Unarmed protestor trying to break into a part of the Capitol Building.
bear2034
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philly1121 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals
Not really. When you consider that Dylan Roof killed 9 African American people in a church with the express intent of starting a race war (his words) but Luigi Mangione kills one CEO and is now charged as a domestic terrorist. Nope. Doesn't make me wonder.

No wonder you're confused.
bear2034
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MinotStateBeav said:

If Speaker Johnson passes this CR he's an absolute traitor man. Thomas Massie called it 3 months ago.
1500 page omnibus with cutouts for a new NFL stadium in D.C., more ukraine money....cuz why not? Just stuffed with pork nobody has read that was made behind closed doors and it's so bad he needs democrat votes to pass it.

The CR includes an emergency 40% pay raise for members of Congress. Speaker Johnson has got to go.
tequila4kapp
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oski003 said:

philly1121 said:

Cal88 said:

sycasey said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals

Ashli Babbitt.
And this is a relevant example how?

Unarmed protestor gunned down, peanut gallery approves.
Almost 4 years on and you're still on about this? Seen her videos? Went into a building of her own accord. FAFO. I blame the Great Leader.


I am in a building right now. Should I be gunned down?
This is an incomplete / disingenuous retelling of that event. She was not alone. There was a policeman with a gun drawn - pointed at her - and she STILL went through the door/window. I mean, how fricking stupid can you be?
sycasey
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Here's the problem Johnson has:

Republicans have a super-narrow majority. They also have the far-right Freedom Caucus who basically will accept no compromise and just want to cut everything. You can't pass anything just on their votes, though, and moderate R's and Democrats will not support such drastic cuts.

So his only choice for passing a budget and not shutting down the government (which will be very unpopular and which Republicans will definitely be blamed for) is to get some Democratic votes, which means making a lot of concessions to them. Democracy and compromise!
bear2034
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Shutting down the government seems more popular than ever. How do you stop the uni-party from spending our way to oblivion?

tequila4kapp
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sycasey said:

Here's the problem Johnson has:

Republicans have a super-narrow majority. They also have the far-right Freedom Caucus who basically will accept no compromise and just want to cut everything. You can't pass anything just on their votes, though, and moderate R's and Democrats will not support such drastic cuts.

So his only choice for passing a budget and not shutting down the government (which will be very unpopular and which Republicans will definitely be blamed for) is to get some Democratic votes, which means making a lot of concessions to them. Democracy and compromise!
There is absolutely no way a Republican leaders should have moved that bill forward. Zero. If you are for that bill what does it meant to be a Republican? Strategically the smart political move is to fight for a saled back version, let it fail then move toward the middle with spending.
Anarchistbear
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The purpose of appropriations is spending not saving. Both parties have vested interest in this bill including Republicans big time with disaster relief in their states. Republicans controlling three parts of government aren't going to ring in the new year with a shutdown
bear2034
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Reduce the 1500 page bill to 20 pages so Congress can know what's actually in it.
dimitrig
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The Republican Party is frustrated that they can't govern by fiat with a narrow majority.

Don't worry, Trump will fix that by declaring himself Supreme Ruler.

sycasey
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bear2034 said:

Shutting down the government seems more popular than ever.
I say this very sincerely:

Good luck with that.
bear2034
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philly1121
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bear2034 said:

philly1121 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals
Not really. When you consider that Dylan Roof killed 9 African American people in a church with the express intent of starting a race war (his words) but Luigi Mangione kills one CEO and is now charged as a domestic terrorist. Nope. Doesn't make me wonder.

No wonder you're confused.
I form my own opinions with facts and evidence. You listen to the Great Leader.
bear2034
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philly1121 said:

bear2034 said:

philly1121 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals
Not really. When you consider that Dylan Roof killed 9 African American people in a church with the express intent of starting a race war (his words) but Luigi Mangione kills one CEO and is now charged as a domestic terrorist. Nope. Doesn't make me wonder.

No wonder you're confused.
I form my own opinions with facts and evidence. You listen to the Great Leader.
We are all entitled to our own whacked opinions. Trump is your daddy.
philly1121
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bear2034 said:

philly1121 said:

bear2034 said:

philly1121 said:

bearister said:

Our country is a wee bit creepy:


Data: Emerson College Polling. Chart: Axios Visuals
Not really. When you consider that Dylan Roof killed 9 African American people in a church with the express intent of starting a race war (his words) but Luigi Mangione kills one CEO and is now charged as a domestic terrorist. Nope. Doesn't make me wonder.

No wonder you're confused.
I form my own opinions with facts and evidence. You listen to the Great Leader.
We are all entitled to our own whacked opinions. Trump is your daddy.
Putin is yours.
Big C
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bear2034 said:


Reduce the 1500 page bill to 20 pages so Congress can know what's actually in it.

Vivek taking crash course in how government works. Is surprised
bear2034
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Big C said:

bear2034 said:


Reduce the 1500 page bill to 20 pages so Congress can know what's actually in it.

vivek taking crash course in how government works

I think part of the problem is government doesn't work.
dimitrig
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Big C said:

bear2034 said:


Reduce the 1500 page bill to 20 pages so Congress can know what's actually in it.

Vivek taking crash course in how government works. Is surprised


No one elected this idiot and he doesn't work for government in any capacity.

He can go away now.

82gradDLSdad
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"No one elected this idiot"
You mean like Kamala?
tequila4kapp
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Anarchistbear said:

The purpose of appropriations is spending not saving. Both parties have vested interest in this bill including Republicans big time with disaster relief in their states. Republicans controlling three parts of government aren't going to ring in the new year with a shutdown
. And this is a CR, just designed to keep the government from shutting down. And just because appropriations is spending doesn't mean you spend without limit or responsibility
dimitrig
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82gradDLSdad said:

"No one elected this idiot"
You mean like Kamala?


Kamala was elected as the Vice President of the US and was a US Senator before that
82gradDLSdad
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dimitrig said:

82gradDLSdad said:

"No one elected this idiot"
You mean like Kamala?


Kamala was elected as the Vice President of the US and was a US Senator before that

Elected as VP. Ok, you go with that.
sycasey
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82gradDLSdad said:

dimitrig said:

82gradDLSdad said:

"No one elected this idiot"
You mean like Kamala?


Kamala was elected as the Vice President of the US and was a US Senator before that

Elected as VP. Ok, you go with that.
You know how a Presidential ticket works, right?
82gradDLSdad
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sycasey said:

82gradDLSdad said:

dimitrig said:

82gradDLSdad said:

"No one elected this idiot"
You mean like Kamala?


Kamala was elected as the Vice President of the US and was a US Senator before that

Elected as VP. Ok, you go with that.
You know how a Presidential ticket works, right?
Yah sure. You go with it too. Kamala was elected.
sycasey
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82gradDLSdad said:

sycasey said:

82gradDLSdad said:

dimitrig said:

82gradDLSdad said:

"No one elected this idiot"
You mean like Kamala?


Kamala was elected as the Vice President of the US and was a US Senator before that

Elected as VP. Ok, you go with that.
You know how a Presidential ticket works, right?
Yah sure. You go with it too. Kamala was elected.
Elected to the same extent any VP is elected, yes. Both names go on the ballot.

And as has been noted, she has won other elections before. Which ones has Vivek won?
82gradDLSdad
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sycasey said:

82gradDLSdad said:

sycasey said:

82gradDLSdad said:

dimitrig said:

82gradDLSdad said:

"No one elected this idiot"
You mean like Kamala?


Kamala was elected as the Vice President of the US and was a US Senator before that

Elected as VP. Ok, you go with that.
You know how a Presidential ticket works, right?
Yah sure. You go with it too. Kamala was elected.
Elected to the same extent any VP is elected, yes. Both names go on the ballot.

And as has been noted, she has won other elections before. Which ones has Vivek won?
You guys can stop. Or continue. I'm done.
MinotStateBeav
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sycasey said:

Here's the problem Johnson has:

Republicans have a super-narrow majority. They also have the far-right Freedom Caucus who basically will accept no compromise and just want to cut everything. You can't pass anything just on their votes, though, and moderate R's and Democrats will not support such drastic cuts.

So his only choice for passing a budget and not shutting down the government (which will be very unpopular and which Republicans will definitely be blamed for) is to get some Democratic votes, which means making a lot of concessions to them. Democracy and compromise!
They could have given us a skinny CR of 2 or 3 pages until the next congress...hrmm why didn't they do that?
bear2034
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sycasey said:

82gradDLSdad said:

sycasey said:

82gradDLSdad said:

dimitrig said:

82gradDLSdad said:

"No one elected this idiot"
You mean like Kamala?


Kamala was elected as the Vice President of the US and was a US Senator before that

Elected as VP. Ok, you go with that.
You know how a Presidential ticket works, right?
Yah sure. You go with it too. Kamala was elected.
Elected to the same extent any VP is elected, yes. Both names go on the ballot.

And as has been noted, she has won other elections before. Which ones has Vivek won?

Vivek ran in the primaries for president. Kamala didn't.
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