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In reply to tequila4kapp • 9:21a, 6/14/25
tequila4kapp said:
In an apparently political assassination a shooter impersonating a cop shot two D state senators and their spouses, killing 2 of them. Police have recovered the car and the shooter's manifesto.

Disgusting. Violence to settle political / policy differences is never right, is never the answer.

Slight correction, one was a State Senator, the other a State House rep.
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10:30a, 6/14/25


This psycho lib apparently shot these two dem politicians because they voted to remove funds for illegals health care in the minnesota budget (something they were sad about doing but compromised to get the budget done). No Kings Protest flyers were found in his vehicle. The democratic rhetoric is now getting their own politicians killed. At some point they have to stop.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 11:22a, 6/14/25
DiabloWags said:
Call it what it is.
Right-wing terrorism.

The suspect in the rampage shootings of Minnesota Democrat State Sen. John Hoffman and State Rep. Melissa Hortman and their spouses was an appointee of Democrat Governor Tim Walz.
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 11:32a, 6/14/25
MinotStateBeav said:

This psycho lib apparently shot these two dem politicians because they voted to remove funds for illegals health care in the minnesota budget (something they were sad about doing but compromised to get the budget done). No Kings Protest flyers were found in his vehicle. The democratic rhetoric is now getting their own politicians killed. At some point they have to stop.

Governor Gavin Newsom agrees.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 12:20p, 6/14/25
tequila4kapp said:
In an apparently political assassination a shooter impersonating a cop shot two D state senators and their spouses, killing 2 of them. Police have recovered the car and the shooter's manifesto.

Disgusting. Violence to settle political / policy differences is never right, is never the answer.

Unfortunately, the story will be buried.



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1:12p, 6/14/25
I hope they find this guy and bring him to justice ASAP.
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In reply to bear2034 • 1:32p, 6/14/25
bear2034 said:
DiabloWags said:
Call it what it is.
Right-wing terrorism.

The suspect in the rampage shootings of Minnesota Democrat State Sen. John Hoffman and State Rep. Melissa Hortman and their spouses was an appointee of Democrat Governor Tim Walz.


My apologies to all of the right-wing terrorists out there and your J6 buddies.
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1:32p, 6/14/25
Breaking...

The shelter-in-place order for Brooklyn Park, Minn., has been lifted.

An emergency alert noting the expiration of the order says that the suspect is not in custody, but that there is "reason to believe he is no longer in the area."
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In reply to DiabloWags • 1:36p, 6/14/25
DiabloWags said:
bear2034 said:
DiabloWags said:
Call it what it is.
Right-wing terrorism.

The suspect in the rampage shootings of Minnesota Democrat State Sen. John Hoffman and State Rep. Melissa Hortman and their spouses was an appointee of Democrat Governor Tim Walz.

My apologies to all of the right-wing terrorists out there and your J6 buddies.
I hope all this doesn't take the focus off that deranged Senator who tried to murder Kristi Noem.

That was close.
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2:19p, 6/14/25
We should wait for more information before deciding if this guy was a lefty or a righty.



My guess is that much like the Trump shooter his politics are some incoherent mishmash of anti-establishment grievance. Either that or he's just a conservative, and that's why the rest of his list were all Dems.

Why did he have "No Kings" flyers? Maybe because he was a lib . . . or maybe he was also planning to attend that protest so he could find more people to shoot.
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3:30p, 6/14/25
Shooter was an evangelical Christian and anti-abortion activist. Not a liberal.

https://www.wired.com/story/shooting-minnesota-melissa-hortman-vance-boelter/

Diablo was right. I will await apologies from the Trump fans who ran with a false narrative too quickly.
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3:56p, 6/14/25
My guess is that the murderer has been radicalized by inflammatory Right Wing propaganda portraying Democrats as an existential threat to the Republic and Western Civilization, you know, Trump's stock in trade.*




* On Monday, the president said it would be a "great thing" if border czar Tom Homan arrested Newsom;

With the protests, Trump, who has characterized them as "violent, insurrectionist mobs" and "Gavin Newscum inspired Riots,"

"Gavin Newsom's feckless leadership is directly responsible for the lawless riots and violent attacks on law enforcement in Los Angeles."

Trump lathers up the mentally unstable part of his base with comments that the sane laugh at and the insane start putting rounds into clips and making lists.
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4:27p, 6/14/25
"David Carlson lives at an address where the police executed a search warrant for the shooting suspect, Vance Boelter. In an interview at this home, Carlson said he and Boelter had been best friends since fourth grade, and he read a text message that the suspect had sent him early this morning, saying he might be dead soon and apologizing. The message did not describe any details of the attacks that unfolded, Carlson said.

Carlson said that the suspect worked at a funeral home, owned firearms and had voted for Donald Trump. He was a devout Christian who strongly opposed abortion, but had never mentioned either of the lawmakers who were shot, Carlson said, and had generally avoided talking about politics. His friend had been experiencing financial and mental health challenges, Carlson said."
Ernesto Londono, NYT
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4:42p, 6/14/25
It looks like more people showed up in Idaho for the No Kings Protest than showed up for Trump's pathetic parade in which he humiliated our armed forces by making them do something the American people do not want

https://bsky.app/profile/heathersdesk.bsky.social/post/3lrlpmxykws2a
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In reply to bearister • 5:03p, 6/14/25
bearister said:
"David Carlson lives at an address where the police executed a search warrant for the shooting suspect, Vance Boelter. In an interview at this home, Carlson said he and Boelter had been best friends since fourth grade, and he read a text message that the suspect had sent him early this morning, saying he might be dead soon and apologizing. The message did not describe any details of the attacks that unfolded, Carlson said.

Carlson said that the suspect worked at a funeral home, owned firearms and had voted for Donald Trump. He was a devout Christian who strongly opposed abortion, but had never mentioned either of the lawmakers who were shot, Carlson said, and had generally avoided talking about politics. His friend had been experiencing financial and mental health challenges, Carlson said."
Ernesto Londono, NYT


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In reply to dajo9 • 5:21p, 6/14/25
dajo9 said:
It looks like more people showed up in Idaho for the No Kings Protest than showed up for Trump's pathetic parade in which he humiliated our armed forces by making them do something the American people do not want

https://bsky.app/profile/heathersdesk.bsky.social/post/3lrlpmxykws2a
I watched 5-10 minutes of the Fox coverage of the Trump vanity event, which was about all I could stomach. It looked like Fox was trying to mostly air clips of past events and keeping live shots of the weak turnout to a minimum.
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5:58p, 6/14/25
The downside to Diversity.

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6:18p, 6/14/25
Can Trump recover from the humiliation he endured today? Is he already a lame duck?

We will see if he can get his tax cuts for the rich and health care cuts for the poor legislation passed.
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In reply to movielover • 6:18p, 6/14/25
movielover said:
The downside to Diversity.

Gee, a researcher who wrote a book 25 years ago about "declining civic engagement" conducted a survey that found declining civic engagement. What a shock!

It amuses me to think of how much effort has gone into finding news stories from decades in the past as if it provides some kind of meaningful gotcha moment in today's partisan wrangling. Times change, people change opinions change. Even Yogi once supported Democrats in the last decade.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 6:40p, 6/14/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
movielover said:
The downside to Diversity.

Gee, a researcher who wrote a book 25 years ago about "declining civic engagement" conducted a survey that found declining civic engagement. What a shock!


Also worth noting that Putnam's larger finding is that the loss of social cohesion with increased diversity is a SHORT TERM phenomenon, and that over time he finds that such diverse societies find new ways to maintain a social identity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Putnam

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x

This also makes intuitive sense, because if ethnic diversity were really such a hindrance, the United States would never have grown as powerful as it is.
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In reply to sycasey • 6:41p, 6/14/25
sycasey said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
movielover said:
The downside to Diversity.

Gee, a researcher who wrote a book 25 years ago about "declining civic engagement" conducted a survey that found declining civic engagement. What a shock!


Also worth noting that Putnam's larger finding is that the loss of social cohesion with increased diversity is a SHORT TERM phenomenon, and that over time he finds that such diverse societies find new ways to maintain a social identity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Putnam

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x

This also makes intuitive sense, because if ethnic diversity were really such a hindrance, the United States would never have grown as powerful as it is.


150 years ago the Protestants in my family wouldn't speak to the Catholics in my family.
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In reply to movielover • 7:34p, 6/14/25
movielover said:


Since my last post ruffled feathers enough to be deleted:

In my opinion, you're truly pathetic for posting stuff like this. If I could say F you here I would, but that's not appropriate apparently and would lead to another post deletion.

As I've pointed out previously, you're not likely to be a real person and that's ok.

The attempt by your First Order Stormtrooper twitter bot friend and other similarly aligned accounts to wish this murderer into being a crazy liberal backfired spectacularly. There are so many words for y'all to eat that can't be rescinded.

Y'all are shameless. Anyway, I hope happy hour at the Vladivostok Applebee's treats you well.
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 7:37p, 6/14/25
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This psycho lib apparently shot these two dem politicians because they voted to remove funds for illegals health care in the minnesota budget (something they were sad about doing but compromised to get the budget done). No Kings Protest flyers were found in his vehicle. The democratic rhetoric is now getting their own politicians killed. At some point they have to stop.


Oof, if only you'd stopped after the second word and added an ellipsis.

Nice work, doofus.
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In reply to movielover • 7:45p, 6/14/25
movielover said:
The downside to Diversity.



Well, look at that. An account named End Wokeness not realizing how ******* stupid they look trying to mock anyone else on the face of the planet when it comes to scrubbing things. Who'd have thunk they wouldn't realize it? Geniuses.
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In reply to dajo9 • 7:47p, 6/14/25
dajo9 said:
Can Trump recover from the humiliation he endured today? Is he already a lame duck?

Don't worry, his supporters will just lie about it.

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In reply to sycasey • 7:50p, 6/14/25
sycasey said:
dajo9 said:
Can Trump recover from the humiliation he endured today? Is he already a lame duck?

Don't worry, his supporters will just lie about it.



This is like when they'd announce the paid attendance for a Cal-Portland State game during the good years. We all know better.
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In reply to Haloski • 7:55p, 6/14/25
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MinotStateBeav said:


This psycho lib apparently shot these two dem politicians because they voted to remove funds for illegals health care in the minnesota budget (something they were sad about doing but compromised to get the budget done). No Kings Protest flyers were found in his vehicle. The democratic rhetoric is now getting their own politicians killed. At some point they have to stop.


Oof, if only you'd stopped after the second word and added an ellipsis.

Nice work, doofus.


I dont know if Ive ever come across a more ignorant poster on Bearinsider. And that's saying a lot.
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Introduction shocking.

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12:47p, 6/15/25
How embarassing for MinotStateBeav, movielover, and bear2034 to be exposed as marks. Again.

Anyway, it's no wonder they are not admitting to their repulsive, rush-to-judgement mistakes. They were fooled by the most obvious propagandists out there.

I still wish them all a happy Father's Day. May they break free of the criminal / con man's chains at some point.
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In reply to chazzed • 5:46p, 6/15/25
chazzed said:
How embarassing for MinotStateBeav, movielover, and bear2034 to be exposed as marks. Again.

Anyway, it's no wonder they are not admitting to their repulsive, rush-to-judgement mistakes. They were fooled by the most obvious propagandists out there.

I still wish them all a happy Father's Day. May they break free of the criminal / con man's chains at some point.

I think they're not "fooled." They know what they're doing.

Well, maybe not Minot. He just might not be too bright.
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In reply to chazzed • 9:17p, 6/15/25
chazzed said:
How embarassing for MinotStateBeav, movielover, and bear2034 to be exposed as marks. Again.

Anyway, it's no wonder they are not admitting to their repulsive, rush-to-judgement mistakes. They were fooled by the most obvious propagandists out there.

I still wish them all a happy Father's Day. May they break free of the criminal / con man's chains at some point.

Happy Father's Day and Happy No Kings Day to you too!
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In reply to sycasey • 9:27p, 6/15/25
sycasey said:
chazzed said:
How embarassing for MinotStateBeav, movielover, and bear2034 to be exposed as marks. Again.

Anyway, it's no wonder they are n weot admitting to their repulsive, rush-to-judgement mistakes. They were fooled by the most obvious propagandists out there.

I still wish them all a happy Father's Day. May they break free of the criminal / con man's chains at some point.

I think they're not "fooled." They know what they're doing.

Well, maybe not Minot. He just might not be too bright.


You're right, of course. I was being generous. Because what would you rather be: a sucker or a bad person?
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In reply to bearister • 9:33p, 6/15/25
bearister said:
Christy Walton* is making headlines these days regarding her role in The Resistance. Read the unlikely backstory of her late husband, John. Not the typical path of a rich boy. He and Trump would have hated each other.

She's rich, has TDS, with nothing to do since she doesn't serve on the board?
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