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DiabloWags
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DiabloWags said:




How do Trump supporters/apologists put a happy face on that turd?
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Isn't it the case that the reserve funds do not cover full SNAP payments? Where is the rest of the money supposed to come from?
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tequila4kapp said:

Isn't it the case that the reserve funds do not cover full SNAP payments? Where is the rest of the money supposed to come from?

SNAP's Contingency Reserve Is Available for Regular SNAP Benefits, as USDA and OMB Have Ruled in Past | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
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DiabloWags said:

tequila4kapp said:

Isn't it the case that the reserve funds do not cover full SNAP payments? Where is the rest of the money supposed to come from?

SNAP's Contingency Reserve Is Available for Regular SNAP Benefits, as USDA and OMB Have Ruled in Past | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


I have not followed it closely but I thought I read something like the contingency fund has @5B and full monthly payments are 9B.

The administration is taking a morally bankrupt and politically asinine position. Especially if you are willing to make things happen to pay military members (as the parent of a service member....thank you) you cannot do less for citizens and food. S T U P I D. It seems so patently obvious that the correct moral thing and politically smart thing would be to aggressively spend the contingency fund...send a pro-rata amount to each state and let them figure out how to divvy it up amongst their recipients (ie that whole states' rights / local control thing that Rs supposedly advocate for). Slow rolling food isn't going to put pressure on D's it is going to expose yourself as heartless *******s.
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tequila4kapp said:

DiabloWags said:

tequila4kapp said:

Isn't it the case that the reserve funds do not cover full SNAP payments? Where is the rest of the money supposed to come from?

SNAP's Contingency Reserve Is Available for Regular SNAP Benefits, as USDA and OMB Have Ruled in Past | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


I have not followed it closely but I thought I read something like the contingency fund has @5B and full monthly payments are 9B.

The administration is taking a morally bankrupt and politically asinine position. Especially if you are willing to make things happen to pay military members (as the parent of a service member....thank you) you cannot do less for citizens and food. S T U P I D. It seems so patently obvious that the correct moral thing and politically smart thing would be to aggressively spend the contingency fund...send a pro-rata amount to each state and let them figure out how to divvy it up amongst their recipients (ie that whole states' rights / local control thing that Rs supposedly advocate for). Slow rolling food isn't going to put pressure on D's it is going to expose yourself as heartless *******s.

It's especially politically asinine because Trump is out there talking about how HE is going to stop the shutdown and HE is going to do xyz thing with SNAP funds. He's actively destroying the Republican argument that the shutdown is the Democrats' fault and putting all the responsibility on himself. No wonder the polling keeps showing that more people blame the GOP.
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And morally bankrupt Democrsts want to allegedly fund HC for illegal immigrants, pay off Big Health Care / Big Pharma, and balance their profligate state budgets using funds intended / used illegally for illegal immigrants.

Pulling the funds for illegal immigrants supposedly cuts this Gordion Knot.

Red States are coughing up requested HC information regarding Billions in illegal payments for illegal immigrants, but Blue States are stonewalling. That's another battle unfolding.
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I do not see how those things are relevant to the SNAP discussion. The single most elemental component of the America First agenda is to take care of Americans. Maybe other than guarding against a military invasion nothing is more fundamental to that principle than feeding the most vulnerable. It is indefensible to withhold money appropriated for that purpose.
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tequila4kapp said:

DiabloWags said:

tequila4kapp said:

Isn't it the case that the reserve funds do not cover full SNAP payments? Where is the rest of the money supposed to come from?

SNAP's Contingency Reserve Is Available for Regular SNAP Benefits, as USDA and OMB Have Ruled in Past | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


I have not followed it closely but I thought I read something like the contingency fund has @5B and full monthly payments are 9B.

From Fox (emphasis added):
"U.S. District Judge John McConnell ordered the U.S. Department of Agriculture on Thursday to allocate $4 billion in alternative contingency funds as needed to fully fund the SNAP program through November, noting the urgency of the food aid and the need for distribution."

This appears to be extra money - the gap between the 9M and 5M. As a matter of law I suspect the court overstepped. I don't see how a District Court orders the Executive Branch to take action that seemingly violates the Legislative Branches' powers under Article 1 Section 9 (appropriations). Note that (per NPR) U.S. District Judge Indira Talwani in Boston had ordered the Trump administration to pay (at least) partial SNAP food benefits.
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tequila4kapp said:

I do not see how those things are relevant to the SNAP discussion. The single most elemental component of the America First agenda is to take care of Americans. Maybe other than guarding against a military invasion nothing is more fundamental to that principle than feeding the most vulnerable. It is indefensible to withhold money appropriated for that purpose.


At some point we should probably vet or re-qualify SNAP recipients for Americans. In 1980 we had approximately 20 million on food stamps, we're now a much richer nation, and now it's 42 million.
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movielover said:

tequila4kapp said:

I do not see how those things are relevant to the SNAP discussion. The single most elemental component of the America First agenda is to take care of Americans. Maybe other than guarding against a military invasion nothing is more fundamental to that principle than feeding the most vulnerable. It is indefensible to withhold money appropriated for that purpose.


At some point we should probably vet or re-qualify SNAP recipients for Americans. In 1980 we had approximately 20 million on food stamps, we're now a much richer nation, and now it's 42 million.
We're a much richer nation, but the increased wealth has skewed HEAVILY towards the top 2-3% of the population. The rich have gotten richer and the poor have gotten poorer. Factor in overall population growth and it's no surprise the number of people on food stamps has more than doubled.
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movielover said:


Dozens of concerning things going on in the country, but by God, we're going to get to the bottom of a minor issue from Jan 6th that might make Trump ever so slightly less bad.
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movielover said:

tequila4kapp said:

I do not see how those things are relevant to the SNAP discussion. The single most elemental component of the America First agenda is to take care of Americans. Maybe other than guarding against a military invasion nothing is more fundamental to that principle than feeding the most vulnerable. It is indefensible to withhold money appropriated for that purpose.


At some point we should probably vet or re-qualify SNAP recipients for Americans. In 1980 we had approximately 20 million on food stamps, we're now a much richer nation, and now it's 42 million.

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"In a late addition to her retirement announcement, Nancy Pelosi disclosed that all her family money is now being moved into mutual funds since she won't have access to the same information that allowed her to trade ahead of the market for 40 years."
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

movielover said:


Dozens of concerning things going on in the country, but by God, we're going to get to the bottom of a minor issue from Jan 6th that might make Trump ever so slightly less bad.


It was D.B. Cooper.




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movielover said:

@shipwreckedcrew

"In a late addition to her retirement announcement, Nancy Pelosi disclosed that all her family money is now being moved into mutual funds since she won't have access to the same information that allowed her to trade ahead of the market for 40 years."
I like crew members that are competent enough to avoid getting themselves shipwrecked.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

movielover said:

@shipwreckedcrew

"In a late addition to her retirement announcement, Nancy Pelosi disclosed that all her family money is now being moved into mutual funds since she won't have access to the same information that allowed her to trade ahead of the market for 40 years."

I like crew members that are competent enough to avoid getting themselves shipwrecked.


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Schumer / D's propose 1 year extension of ACA subsidies in exchange for opening the government; offer includes a bipartisan group of senators to work on a long term solution.

I don't see how R's say No to this. The bipartisan senators won't agree to anything and this will be an election year winning issue for Ds. D's are running circles around R's right now.
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More Free Money as we add another $2 Trillion in debt as we lavish Billions on Democrat States and illegal immigrants. The solution is always the same: more Spending; more kicking the can down the road.

Why doesn't this bipartisan group meet - NOW?
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I care about fiscal responsibility. But history clearly and unequivocally proves the country doesn't.
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movielover said:

More Free Money as we add another $2 Trillion in debt as we lavish Billions on Democrat States and illegal immigrants. The solution is always the same: more Spending; more kicking the can down the road.

Why doesn't this bipartisan group meet - NOW?

Because of the Repugs

Schumer said "ball is in their court."

MAGAts will fumble the pass out of bounds

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movielover said:

More Free Money as we add another $2 Trillion in debt as we lavish Billions on Democrat States and illegal immigrants. The solution is always the same: more Spending; more kicking the can down the road.




You didn't care about when Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill" added $3.5 TRILLION TO OUR DEBT.
So why do you care now?

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Democrats being pushed Left by their growing Communist wing?
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AI Overview: "According to non-partisan analyses from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and other policy centers, the bill's - [BBB] - spending effects over a 10-year period (FY 2025-2034) included:

"Overall Decrease in Planned Spending: The legislation reduced total non-interest federal outlays (spending) by approximately $1.3 trillion to $1.5 trillion over the decade."
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Democrats are obsessed by identity politics.

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Yes, but . . .

CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) estimate that enacting the bill would increase deficits over the 20252034 period by $2.4 trillion, excluding any macroeconomic or debtservice effects.

H.R. 1 would make numerous changes to tax provisions and spending programs. Although many of the changes would be permanent, expiration dates are indicated for some tax and spending provisions. Also under the bill, certain aspects of some other provisions would change over the next decade.

JCT has estimated that permanently enacting 16 of the tax provisions that would sunset under H.R. 1 at the end of 2028 or 2029 would increase primary deficits over the 20252034 period by an additional $1.4 trillion.

CBO estimates that if those provisions were made permanent, the additional debt-service costs would total $687 billion over the 10year period. That change would increase the cumulative deficit to $4.5 trillion. As a result, and net of any changes in borrowing for federal credit programs, CBO estimates that debt held by the public at the end of 2034 would increase from the January 2025 baseline projection of 117.1 percent to 127.7 percent of gross domestic product.


Effects on Deficits and the Debt of Enacting H.R. 1 and of Making Certain Tax Policies in H.R. 1 Permanent | Congressional Budget Office
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movielover said:

Democrats being pushed Left by their growing Communist wing?


That is a reaction to Republicans being pushed Right by the growing Nazi wing of the party led by the Neo Fuhrer.
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movielover said:

Democrats being pushed Left by their growing Communist wing?

I don't see any evidence of that with Schumer's proposal

MAGAts, dense AF

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He left the Democrat party years ago.
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movielover said:

Democrats are obsessed by identity politics.



Dang, Iowa is really woke

Imagine what Portland, Seattle or Chicago would do!

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Fox News: "EXCLUSIVE: A federal grand jury has subpoenaed former CIA Director John Brennan, former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and others as part of a DOJ investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, FOX News Digital has learned.

"Up to 30 subpoenas will be issued in coming days, law enforcement sources say."
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