Crime is Surging in U.S. Cities

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Unit2Sucks
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LMK5 said:

chazzed said:

Maybe the uptick is simply due to Republican politicians being caught for their crimes.

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/07/21/ohio-house-speaker-larry-householder-arrested-in-connection-with-60-million-in-bribes
That guy's an amateur: https://www.nprillinois.org/post/chicago-reigns-countrys-corruption-capital-report
Please explain how your response is relevant to an Ohio lawmaker involved in a racketeering case involving $60M in bribes. What would a professional do in these circumstances?
LMK5
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Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

chazzed said:

Maybe the uptick is simply due to Republican politicians being caught for their crimes.

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/07/21/ohio-house-speaker-larry-householder-arrested-in-connection-with-60-million-in-bribes
That guy's an amateur: https://www.nprillinois.org/post/chicago-reigns-countrys-corruption-capital-report
Please explain how your response is relevant to an Ohio lawmaker involved in a racketeering case involving $60M in bribes. What would a professional do in these circumstances?
The point of the post I responded to emphasized that the politician was a Republican--that's his point. My post is a friendly counter showing that Illinois, a Democrat machine state, has brought corruption to the degree of high art.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
Unit2Sucks
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LMK5 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

chazzed said:

Maybe the uptick is simply due to Republican politicians being caught for their crimes.

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/07/21/ohio-house-speaker-larry-householder-arrested-in-connection-with-60-million-in-bribes
That guy's an amateur: https://www.nprillinois.org/post/chicago-reigns-countrys-corruption-capital-report
Please explain how your response is relevant to an Ohio lawmaker involved in a racketeering case involving $60M in bribes. What would a professional do in these circumstances?
The point of the post I responded to emphasized that the politician was a Republican--that's his point. My post is a friendly counter showing that Illinois, a Democrat machine state, has brought corruption to the degree of high art.
Please tell us more about how "Illinois, a Democrat machine state has brought corruption to the degree of high art."

I guess you didn't actually read the report that you linked. If you look at the state results, you would have seen that Illinois wasn't at the top of the list. As it turns out, Ohio is 8th for per capita corruption convictions so it's no stranger to corruption. In case you were wondering, I'll save you the trouble of reading your own link and provide you with the actual data.



If you had looked at the city level data, you would have seen that although this report is based on convictions between 1976 and 2018, Chicago wasn't the leader over the last decade or two decades. There were 3 other cities ahead of Chicago during the last 2 decades. If you had read the report, you also would have seen that this is based on the number of federal public corruption convictions by judicial district and not based on the size of corrupt acts - eg no sense of scale as to individual crimes.

I would be interested to hear what the "reasonable people" and "intelligent people" that you seem to enjoy bringing up would think about a politician involved in a $60M bribery scheme. I'm not one of them, but from my point of view, $60M in bribes seems like "high art". The only major recent Illinois corrupt actor I can think of that comes close was Rod Blagojevich who would still be in jail if the national poster boy for corruption (your favorite president - 45) hadn't granted him clemency last year.


chazzed
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LMK5 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

chazzed said:

Maybe the uptick is simply due to Republican politicians being caught for their crimes.

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/07/21/ohio-house-speaker-larry-householder-arrested-in-connection-with-60-million-in-bribes
That guy's an amateur: https://www.nprillinois.org/post/chicago-reigns-countrys-corruption-capital-report
Please explain how your response is relevant to an Ohio lawmaker involved in a racketeering case involving $60M in bribes. What would a professional do in these circumstances?
The point of the post I responded to emphasized that the politician was a Republican--that's his point. My post is a friendly counter showing that Illinois, a Democrat machine state, has brought corruption to the degree of high art.


This is an interesting study from a few years ago on criminal convictions of politicians:
https://rantt.com/gop-admins-had-38-times-more-criminal-convictions-than-democrats-1961-2016

Rantt Media is left-leaning, but it sticks to the facts well:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rantt-media/
dajo9
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chazzed said:

LMK5 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

chazzed said:

Maybe the uptick is simply due to Republican politicians being caught for their crimes.

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/07/21/ohio-house-speaker-larry-householder-arrested-in-connection-with-60-million-in-bribes
That guy's an amateur: https://www.nprillinois.org/post/chicago-reigns-countrys-corruption-capital-report
Please explain how your response is relevant to an Ohio lawmaker involved in a racketeering case involving $60M in bribes. What would a professional do in these circumstances?
The point of the post I responded to emphasized that the politician was a Republican--that's his point. My post is a friendly counter showing that Illinois, a Democrat machine state, has brought corruption to the degree of high art.


This is an interesting study from a few years ago on criminal convictions of politicians:
https://rantt.com/gop-admins-had-38-times-more-criminal-convictions-than-democrats-1961-2016

Rantt Media is left-leaning, but it sticks to the facts well:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rantt-media/


The media lens is an interesting dynamic of all this. You will frequently hear about the "scandal ridden" Clinton Presidency. There was 1 criminal conviction from the Clinton Presidency. You never hear anything about scandal with the Reagan Presidency. His Administration had 16 criminal convictions (same as GWB).
bearister
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" You never hear anything about scandal with the Reagan Presidency. "

Iran/Contra. Fawn Hall:*




*She married the manager of the Doors.
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dajo9
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bearister said:

" You never hear anything about scandal with the Reagan Presidency. "

Iran/Contra. Fawn Hall:*




*She married the manager of the Doors.


Of course, the Reagan Presidency was full of scandal but that is not how media portrays the Reagan Presidency.
LMK5
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Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

chazzed said:

Maybe the uptick is simply due to Republican politicians being caught for their crimes.

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/07/21/ohio-house-speaker-larry-householder-arrested-in-connection-with-60-million-in-bribes
That guy's an amateur: https://www.nprillinois.org/post/chicago-reigns-countrys-corruption-capital-report
Please explain how your response is relevant to an Ohio lawmaker involved in a racketeering case involving $60M in bribes. What would a professional do in these circumstances?
The point of the post I responded to emphasized that the politician was a Republican--that's his point. My post is a friendly counter showing that Illinois, a Democrat machine state, has brought corruption to the degree of high art.
Please tell us more about how "Illinois, a Democrat machine state has brought corruption to the degree of high art."

I guess you didn't actually read the report that you linked. If you look at the state results, you would have seen that Illinois wasn't at the top of the list. As it turns out, Ohio is 8th for per capita corruption convictions so it's no stranger to corruption. In case you were wondering, I'll save you the trouble of reading your own link and provide you with the actual data.



If you had looked at the city level data, you would have seen that although this report is based on convictions between 1976 and 2018, Chicago wasn't the leader over the last decade or two decades. There were 3 other cities ahead of Chicago during the last 2 decades. If you had read the report, you also would have seen that this is based on the number of federal public corruption convictions by judicial district and not based on the size of corrupt acts - eg no sense of scale as to individual crimes.

I would be interested to hear what the "reasonable people" and "intelligent people" that you seem to enjoy bringing up would think about a politician involved in a $60M bribery scheme. I'm not one of them, but from my point of view, $60M in bribes seems like "high art". The only major recent Illinois corrupt actor I can think of that comes close was Rod Blagojevich who would still be in jail if the national poster boy for corruption (your favorite president - 45) hadn't granted him clemency last year.



Does your bar chart prove my point or yours? The runaway keader, DC, hasn't had a Republican leader since 1910 LOL, and the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat. I thank you for your support.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
BearChemist
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If the crimes are truly surging in US cities, why does Trump campaign (death star) pick a stock photo of police of former Ukraine regime (read: Putin's puppet) suppressing demonstrators?

Unit2Sucks
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LMK5 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

chazzed said:

Maybe the uptick is simply due to Republican politicians being caught for their crimes.

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/07/21/ohio-house-speaker-larry-householder-arrested-in-connection-with-60-million-in-bribes
That guy's an amateur: https://www.nprillinois.org/post/chicago-reigns-countrys-corruption-capital-report
Please explain how your response is relevant to an Ohio lawmaker involved in a racketeering case involving $60M in bribes. What would a professional do in these circumstances?
The point of the post I responded to emphasized that the politician was a Republican--that's his point. My post is a friendly counter showing that Illinois, a Democrat machine state, has brought corruption to the degree of high art.
Please tell us more about how "Illinois, a Democrat machine state has brought corruption to the degree of high art."

I guess you didn't actually read the report that you linked. If you look at the state results, you would have seen that Illinois wasn't at the top of the list. As it turns out, Ohio is 8th for per capita corruption convictions so it's no stranger to corruption. In case you were wondering, I'll save you the trouble of reading your own link and provide you with the actual data.



If you had looked at the city level data, you would have seen that although this report is based on convictions between 1976 and 2018, Chicago wasn't the leader over the last decade or two decades. There were 3 other cities ahead of Chicago during the last 2 decades. If you had read the report, you also would have seen that this is based on the number of federal public corruption convictions by judicial district and not based on the size of corrupt acts - eg no sense of scale as to individual crimes.

I would be interested to hear what the "reasonable people" and "intelligent people" that you seem to enjoy bringing up would think about a politician involved in a $60M bribery scheme. I'm not one of them, but from my point of view, $60M in bribes seems like "high art". The only major recent Illinois corrupt actor I can think of that comes close was Rod Blagojevich who would still be in jail if the national poster boy for corruption (your favorite president - 45) hadn't granted him clemency last year.



Does your bar chart prove my point or yours? The runaway keader, DC, hasn't had a Republican leader since 1910 LOL, and the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat. I thank you for your support.
Bless your heard for not realizing the federal government is located in DC. In your simplistic world, wouldn't all of DC be attributable to your favorite Republican president Donald Trump?

As for the other states, only NY and IL are long-time democrat strongholds. TN and GA are obviously republican strongholds.

The other states are all mixed and in many cases more red than blue. It seems like you are pretty familiar with NJ based on your discussions with dajo and you may recall that NJ had everyone's favorite corrupt R as governor (Chris Christie, in case you don't remember) for many years. Both of LA's senators have been R for a long time and their previous longtime governor was none other than Bobby Jindal (I guess every corrupt Republican state governor ran for president in 2016). Ohio's current governor is R as was it's previous long-time governor (Kasich - another 2016 presidential candidate) and they are turning red. PA is purple and seems to go back and forth between R and D for its governor each term and obviously the subject $60M bribery scheme was Republican related. Virginia is certainly purple and turning blue (thanks Trump!) but that's fairly recent as they voted R for president in every single election from 1968-2004.

I recognize that this sort of analysis and nuance may not be to your taste because you seem to prefer simple pigeonholing but maybe you can ask some of the "intelligent people" that you are so fond of to explain to you how this chart disproves your contention that Illinois has raised public corruption to "high art" when it's not even an outlier at this point.
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LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
LMK5
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sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time (TN, GA, OH). Not knowing the statistic, I would think that total crimes or total dollars in corruption might also be an interesting statistic.

A key part of corruption that is not tallied is the organized crime tax. The mob controls many trade industries back east, raising construction costs. I'm talking things like concrete and other materials. Back east it's called the "mafia tax." It's very common in large cities where the Democrats and the unions are strong. That's an insidious form of corruption that doesn't make it into official statistics, and it's why places like Illinois, New York, and New Jersey have such an infamous reputation for corruption.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time.
Except the chart shows data from 1978-2018 so leadership at this time doesn't mean s***.
LMK5
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sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time.
Except the chart shows data from 1978-2018 so leadership at this time doesn't mean s***.
We can slice and dice all we want sycasey, but I think it's fair to say that the reputation for corruption--and well deserved--is in the heavily unionized and Democrat urban centers. It's just part of life there.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
sycasey
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time.
Except the chart shows data from 1978-2018 so leadership at this time doesn't mean s***.
We can slice and dice all we want sycasey, but I think it's fair to say that the reputation for corruption--and well deserved--is in the heavily unionized and Democrat urban centers. It's just part of life there.
So now your argument rests on some kind vague "reputation" and not actual data. Got it.
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Thank heavens that photo is from the Ukraine!
For a split second I thought rioters were attacking police all across this country!
chazzed
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LMK5 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LMK5 said:

chazzed said:

Maybe the uptick is simply due to Republican politicians being caught for their crimes.

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/07/21/ohio-house-speaker-larry-householder-arrested-in-connection-with-60-million-in-bribes
That guy's an amateur: https://www.nprillinois.org/post/chicago-reigns-countrys-corruption-capital-report
Please explain how your response is relevant to an Ohio lawmaker involved in a racketeering case involving $60M in bribes. What would a professional do in these circumstances?
The point of the post I responded to emphasized that the politician was a Republican--that's his point. My post is a friendly counter showing that Illinois, a Democrat machine state, has brought corruption to the degree of high art.


Mr. Gaetz has found another way to get in the news:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/22/gaetz-florida-house-ethics-rules-377098
LMK5
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sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time.
Except the chart shows data from 1978-2018 so leadership at this time doesn't mean s***.
We can slice and dice all we want sycasey, but I think it's fair to say that the reputation for corruption--and well deserved--is in the heavily unionized and Democrat urban centers. It's just part of life there.
So now your argument rests on some kind vague "reputation" and not actual data. Got it.
No my friend. You asked how many were Democrat and I pointed out that only 3 were Republican (out of a list of 10). That really bothered you, so you tried to nullify it by saying that leadership doesn't mean "s***" because of the timeline. Naturally, you didn't include in your post exactly what does give meaning to the data.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
sycasey
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time.
Except the chart shows data from 1978-2018 so leadership at this time doesn't mean s***.
We can slice and dice all we want sycasey, but I think it's fair to say that the reputation for corruption--and well deserved--is in the heavily unionized and Democrat urban centers. It's just part of life there.
So now your argument rests on some kind vague "reputation" and not actual data. Got it.
No my friend. You asked how many were Democrat and I pointed out that only 3 were Republican (out of a list of 10). That really bothered you, so you tried to nullify it by saying that leadership doesn't mean "s***" because of the timeline. Naturally, you didn't include in your post exactly what does give meaning to the data.
No, you said a majority of those states were "solidly Democrat." Your version of "solidly Democrat" appears to be "has a Democratic leader right now." That's even though the data in the chart doesn't even cover the current year and goes back more than 20 years. I'd say it's you who needs to do a better job of proving which states are "solidly Democrat."

I suspect you don't want to because if you go back over the full time frame that covers those numbers you'll find that a lot of those states actually had mixed D/R leadership or even majority Republican.
Unit2Sucks
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time.
Except the chart shows data from 1978-2018 so leadership at this time doesn't mean s***.
We can slice and dice all we want sycasey, but I think it's fair to say that the reputation for corruption--and well deserved--is in the heavily unionized and Democrat urban centers. It's just part of life there.
So now your argument rests on some kind vague "reputation" and not actual data. Got it.
No my friend. You asked how many were Democrat and I pointed out that only 3 were Republican (out of a list of 10). That really bothered you, so you tried to nullify it by saying that leadership doesn't mean "s***" because of the timeline. Naturally, you didn't include in your post exactly what does give meaning to the data.
Just so we're clear, you are the one who selected that data and have failed to provide any analytical justification for it. The rest of us understand that you don't really read for content and just skim things so you can throw an R or D label at it, but you should really recall that it was your data to begin with.

Since the data goes through 2018, in your simplistic worldview we should really just look at which states had republican governors on 1/1/18 in addition to TN, GA and OH: Bruce Rauner in IL and Chris Christie in NJ. So that gives 5 R governors to 4 D governors.

And DC is where Trump's federal government sits so either exclude it entirely or lump it into your R category. With DC, you're at 6 Rs (gasp, 50% more than the Ds).

Obviously this is an absurd argument to begin with, but if you are going to make absurd arguments (which based on your history seems to be your preference), at least try to follow through with it).
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sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time.
Except the chart shows data from 1978-2018 so leadership at this time doesn't mean s***.
We can slice and dice all we want sycasey, but I think it's fair to say that the reputation for corruption--and well deserved--is in the heavily unionized and Democrat urban centers. It's just part of life there.
So now your argument rests on some kind vague "reputation" and not actual data. Got it.
No my friend. You asked how many were Democrat and I pointed out that only 3 were Republican (out of a list of 10). That really bothered you, so you tried to nullify it by saying that leadership doesn't mean "s***" because of the timeline. Naturally, you didn't include in your post exactly what does give meaning to the data.
No, you said a majority of those states were "solidly Democrat." Your version of "solidly Democrat" appears to be "has a Democratic leader right now." That's even though the data in the chart doesn't even cover the current year and goes back more than 20 years. I'd say it's you who needs to do a better job of proving which states are "solidly Democrat."

I suspect you don't want to because if you go back over the full time frame that covers those numbers you'll find that a lot of those states actually had mixed D/R leadership or even majority Republican.
OK we agree. Politicians are corrupt.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

the majority of the states on the graph are firmly Democrat.
They are? Please name which ones are "firmly Democrat." Since there are 9 states listed (excluding DC) you need five.
Only 3 on the list have Republican leadership at this time.
Except the chart shows data from 1978-2018 so leadership at this time doesn't mean s***.
We can slice and dice all we want sycasey, but I think it's fair to say that the reputation for corruption--and well deserved--is in the heavily unionized and Democrat urban centers. It's just part of life there.
So now your argument rests on some kind vague "reputation" and not actual data. Got it.
No my friend. You asked how many were Democrat and I pointed out that only 3 were Republican (out of a list of 10). That really bothered you, so you tried to nullify it by saying that leadership doesn't mean "s***" because of the timeline. Naturally, you didn't include in your post exactly what does give meaning to the data.
No, you said a majority of those states were "solidly Democrat." Your version of "solidly Democrat" appears to be "has a Democratic leader right now." That's even though the data in the chart doesn't even cover the current year and goes back more than 20 years. I'd say it's you who needs to do a better job of proving which states are "solidly Democrat."

I suspect you don't want to because if you go back over the full time frame that covers those numbers you'll find that a lot of those states actually had mixed D/R leadership or even majority Republican.
OK we agree. Politicians are corrupt.
Your backpedaling is duly noted.
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https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-funeral-home-auburn-gresham-news/6328593/

Chicago shooting at funeral home injures 15 in Auburn Gresham; 'We thought it was a war,' witness says

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/22/sources-multiple-people-shot-near-funeral-home-in-auburn-gresham/

Appears to be gang related.

Bear70
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BearForce2 said:

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-funeral-home-auburn-gresham-news/6328593/

Chicago shooting at funeral home injures 15 in Auburn Gresham; 'We thought it was a war,' witness says

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/22/sources-multiple-people-shot-near-funeral-home-in-auburn-gresham/

Appears to be gang related.




The article says police were notified there could be a shooting at the funeral.

How can we defund them and eliminate resources on one hand and then expect them to be funeral security on the other?
Krugman Is A Moron
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Bear70 said:

BearForce2 said:

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-funeral-home-auburn-gresham-news/6328593/

Chicago shooting at funeral home injures 15 in Auburn Gresham; 'We thought it was a war,' witness says

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/22/sources-multiple-people-shot-near-funeral-home-in-auburn-gresham/

Appears to be gang related.
The article says police were notified there could be a shooting at the funeral.

How can we defund them and eliminate resources on one hand and then expect them to be funeral security on the other?
Don't have to worry about that. Our second amendment rights were the heroes here, as the people at the funeral returned fire.

Isn't that always the justification for why the need to bear arms is always mentioned during these mass shootings?
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Bear70 said:

BearForce2 said:

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-funeral-home-auburn-gresham-news/6328593/

Chicago shooting at funeral home injures 15 in Auburn Gresham; 'We thought it was a war,' witness says

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/22/sources-multiple-people-shot-near-funeral-home-in-auburn-gresham/

Appears to be gang related.




The article says police were notified there could be a shooting at the funeral.

How can we defund them and eliminate resources on one hand and then expect them to be funeral security on the other?

Quote:

It's also useful to keep in mind that few Americans of any racial group support some of the more radical changes demanded by some activists. For instance, few people support calls to abolish or defund the police: 9 in 10 black, white and Hispanic Americans oppose reducing the number of police officers in their communityand a third say their community needs more officers the Cato survey found. And a Yahoo/Yougov survey found that only 16% of Americans favor cutting funding for police departments, including 12% of whites, 33% of blacks, and 17% of Hispanics.

Americans Don't Want to #Defund Police, Instead They Agree on Reform. White, blacks, across the board.

https://www.cato.org/blog/americans-agree-policing-reform
LMK5
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BearForce2 said:

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-funeral-home-auburn-gresham-news/6328593/

Chicago shooting at funeral home injures 15 in Auburn Gresham; 'We thought it was a war,' witness says

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/22/sources-multiple-people-shot-near-funeral-home-in-auburn-gresham/

Appears to be gang related.


Lori Lightweight is on a roll. I'm sure she'll be re-elected by a landslide. You get what you pay for.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
BearForce2
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LMK5 said:

BearForce2 said:

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-funeral-home-auburn-gresham-news/6328593/

Chicago shooting at funeral home injures 15 in Auburn Gresham; 'We thought it was a war,' witness says

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/22/sources-multiple-people-shot-near-funeral-home-in-auburn-gresham/

Appears to be gang related.


Lori Lightweight is on a roll. I'm sure she'll be re-elected by a landslide. You get what you pay for.
Who knows, she meets the specific requirements for the Democrat Vice President position.
LMK5
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BearForce2 said:

LMK5 said:

BearForce2 said:

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-funeral-home-auburn-gresham-news/6328593/

Chicago shooting at funeral home injures 15 in Auburn Gresham; 'We thought it was a war,' witness says

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/22/sources-multiple-people-shot-near-funeral-home-in-auburn-gresham/

Appears to be gang related.


Lori Lightweight is on a roll. I'm sure she'll be re-elected by a landslide. You get what you pay for.
Who knows, she meets the specific requirements for the Democrat Vice President position.
I think Joe would be afraid of her.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
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We all know who would really be afraid of a strong black woman
BearForce2
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dajo9 said:

We all know who would really be afraid of a strong black woman


Candace Owens triggers Democrats on race.
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https://www.amny.com/news/nyc-shootings-man-slain-near-peace-march-in-brooklyn-five-others-wounded/

New York City
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Six people were shot Saturday night into Sunday morning as citywide gun violence rages on. One of the shootings, which claimed a man's life, happened a few blocks away from a Brooklyn peace march that Mayor Bill de Blasio attended in Brooklyn on Saturday night

smh
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from a forgotten palo alto boy band comes a song for our times..
muting more than 300 handles, turnaround is fair play
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What in the world is wrong with Chicago?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/us/chicago-shootings/index.html

In Chicago, 25 people were shot Monday after 12 people were killed over the weekend

LMK5
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BearForce2 said:

What in the world is wrong with Chicago?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/us/chicago-shootings/index.html

In Chicago, 25 people were shot Monday after 12 people were killed over the weekend


Lori Lightweight is asking the same question. The police have resorted to pleading.
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
 
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