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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/violent-crime-soars-confidence-in-police-takes-hit/index.html

Violent crime rises during pandemic as confidence in police takes a hit. (CNN played a role undermining confidence in police and now reporting the consequences.)

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From May to June 2020, homicides in 20 major US cities increased by 37%, led by Chicago, Philadelphia and Milwaukee, according to new data from the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) think tank.

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What do these 3 cities have in common? Democrat mayors.

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Still waiting for the DNC speech that cites these Dem cities' successes and promises to roll out the same formula nationwide. That ought to attract swing voters!

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What policies and actions have big city Republican mayors used to limit crime in 2020?

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The starting point is probably refraining from demonizing local law enforcement officers.

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You think demonizing local law enforcement officers lead to an increase in homicides in those cities? Any evidence to support this claim?

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Pretty good knee in the Chicago curve in late May if you ask me: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

Portland's July had the most murders in 3 decades: https://nypost.com/2020/08/03/portland-sees-a-record-number-of-murders-in-july-amid-protests/

Minneapolis way up also: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

This is just too easy folks. When you create an anti-law enforcement, anti-prosecution atmosphere in your city, would-be criminals will exploit that environment. It's human nature 101.

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Once again: how do you know this isn't just continuing the homicide spike that began with the pandemic lockdowns?

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve I posted, you can clearly see that there's a knee in the curve in late May showing increased murders. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since the defund/abolish crowds have been active. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the liberal ideological house of cards.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/violent-crime-soars-confidence-in-police-takes-hit/index.html

Violent crime rises during pandemic as confidence in police takes a hit. (CNN played a role undermining confidence in police and now reporting the consequences.)

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From May to June 2020, homicides in 20 major US cities increased by 37%, led by Chicago, Philadelphia and Milwaukee, according to new data from the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) think tank.

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What do these 3 cities have in common? Democrat mayors.

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Still waiting for the DNC speech that cites these Dem cities' successes and promises to roll out the same formula nationwide. That ought to attract swing voters!

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What policies and actions have big city Republican mayors used to limit crime in 2020?

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The starting point is probably refraining from demonizing local law enforcement officers.

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You think demonizing local law enforcement officers lead to an increase in homicides in those cities? Any evidence to support this claim?

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Pretty good knee in the Chicago curve in late May if you ask me: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

Portland's July had the most murders in 3 decades: https://nypost.com/2020/08/03/portland-sees-a-record-number-of-murders-in-july-amid-protests/

Minneapolis way up also: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

This is just too easy folks. When you create an anti-law enforcement, anti-prosecution atmosphere in your city, would-be criminals will exploit that environment. It's human nature 101.

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Once again: how do you know this isn't just continuing the homicide spike that began with the pandemic lockdowns?

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve I posted, you can clearly see that there's a knee in the curve in late May showing increased murders. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since the defund/abolish crowds have been active. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the liberal ideological house of cards.

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Seriously? One spike in late May in one city is enough evidence for you? I suspect you just wanted it to be true already and will take any evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/violent-crime-soars-confidence-in-police-takes-hit/index.html

Violent crime rises during pandemic as confidence in police takes a hit. (CNN played a role undermining confidence in police and now reporting the consequences.)

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From May to June 2020, homicides in 20 major US cities increased by 37%, led by Chicago, Philadelphia and Milwaukee, according to new data from the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) think tank.

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What do these 3 cities have in common? Democrat mayors.

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Still waiting for the DNC speech that cites these Dem cities' successes and promises to roll out the same formula nationwide. That ought to attract swing voters!

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What policies and actions have big city Republican mayors used to limit crime in 2020?

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The starting point is probably refraining from demonizing local law enforcement officers.

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You think demonizing local law enforcement officers lead to an increase in homicides in those cities? Any evidence to support this claim?

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Pretty good knee in the Chicago curve in late May if you ask me: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

Portland's July had the most murders in 3 decades: https://nypost.com/2020/08/03/portland-sees-a-record-number-of-murders-in-july-amid-protests/

Minneapolis way up also: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

This is just too easy folks. When you create an anti-law enforcement, anti-prosecution atmosphere in your city, would-be criminals will exploit that environment. It's human nature 101.

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Once again: how do you know this isn't just continuing the homicide spike that began with the pandemic lockdowns?

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve I posted, you can clearly see that there's a knee in the curve in late May showing increased murders. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since the defund/abolish crowds have been active. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the liberal ideological house of cards.

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Seriously? One spike in late May in one city is enough evidence for you? I suspect you just wanted it to be true already and will take any evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion.

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And by the same token, I suspect that no matter what data is presented, you will never even raise an eyebrow, much less acknowledge it.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/violent-crime-soars-confidence-in-police-takes-hit/index.html

Violent crime rises during pandemic as confidence in police takes a hit. (CNN played a role undermining confidence in police and now reporting the consequences.)

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From May to June 2020, homicides in 20 major US cities increased by 37%, led by Chicago, Philadelphia and Milwaukee, according to new data from the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) think tank.

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What do these 3 cities have in common? Democrat mayors.

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Still waiting for the DNC speech that cites these Dem cities' successes and promises to roll out the same formula nationwide. That ought to attract swing voters!

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What policies and actions have big city Republican mayors used to limit crime in 2020?

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The starting point is probably refraining from demonizing local law enforcement officers.

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You think demonizing local law enforcement officers lead to an increase in homicides in those cities? Any evidence to support this claim?

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Pretty good knee in the Chicago curve in late May if you ask me: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

Portland's July had the most murders in 3 decades: https://nypost.com/2020/08/03/portland-sees-a-record-number-of-murders-in-july-amid-protests/

Minneapolis way up also: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

This is just too easy folks. When you create an anti-law enforcement, anti-prosecution atmosphere in your city, would-be criminals will exploit that environment. It's human nature 101.

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Once again: how do you know this isn't just continuing the homicide spike that began with the pandemic lockdowns?

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve I posted, you can clearly see that there's a knee in the curve in late May showing increased murders. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since the defund/abolish crowds have been active. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the liberal ideological house of cards.

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Seriously? One spike in late May in one city is enough evidence for you? I suspect you just wanted it to be true already and will take any evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion.

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve he posted, I think that also coincided with a heat wave and/or a full moon and/or something dumb Trump or one of his cronies said. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since Trump brought white nationalism into the white house. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the conservative ideological house of cards.

Did I do it right?

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sycasey said:

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/violent-crime-soars-confidence-in-police-takes-hit/index.html

Violent crime rises during pandemic as confidence in police takes a hit. (CNN played a role undermining confidence in police and now reporting the consequences.)

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From May to June 2020, homicides in 20 major US cities increased by 37%, led by Chicago, Philadelphia and Milwaukee, according to new data from the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) think tank.

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What do these 3 cities have in common? Democrat mayors.

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Still waiting for the DNC speech that cites these Dem cities' successes and promises to roll out the same formula nationwide. That ought to attract swing voters!

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What policies and actions have big city Republican mayors used to limit crime in 2020?

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The starting point is probably refraining from demonizing local law enforcement officers.

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You think demonizing local law enforcement officers lead to an increase in homicides in those cities? Any evidence to support this claim?

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Pretty good knee in the Chicago curve in late May if you ask me: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

Portland's July had the most murders in 3 decades: https://nypost.com/2020/08/03/portland-sees-a-record-number-of-murders-in-july-amid-protests/

Minneapolis way up also: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

This is just too easy folks. When you create an anti-law enforcement, anti-prosecution atmosphere in your city, would-be criminals will exploit that environment. It's human nature 101.

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Once again: how do you know this isn't just continuing the homicide spike that began with the pandemic lockdowns?

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve I posted, you can clearly see that there's a knee in the curve in late May showing increased murders. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since the defund/abolish crowds have been active. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the liberal ideological house of cards.

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Seriously? One spike in late May in one city is enough evidence for you? I suspect you just wanted it to be true already and will take any evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion.

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And by the same token, I suspect that no matter what data is presented, you will never even raise an eyebrow, much less acknowledge it.

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See, I did acknowledge the data and then provided additional data and context to question it. That's how this is supposed to work. Further narrowing the data to a single point and drawing a conclusion is NOT how this is supposed to work.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/violent-crime-soars-confidence-in-police-takes-hit/index.html

Violent crime rises during pandemic as confidence in police takes a hit. (CNN played a role undermining confidence in police and now reporting the consequences.)

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From May to June 2020, homicides in 20 major US cities increased by 37%, led by Chicago, Philadelphia and Milwaukee, according to new data from the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) think tank.

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What do these 3 cities have in common? Democrat mayors.

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Still waiting for the DNC speech that cites these Dem cities' successes and promises to roll out the same formula nationwide. That ought to attract swing voters!

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What policies and actions have big city Republican mayors used to limit crime in 2020?

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The starting point is probably refraining from demonizing local law enforcement officers.

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You think demonizing local law enforcement officers lead to an increase in homicides in those cities? Any evidence to support this claim?

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Pretty good knee in the Chicago curve in late May if you ask me: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

Portland's July had the most murders in 3 decades: https://nypost.com/2020/08/03/portland-sees-a-record-number-of-murders-in-july-amid-protests/

Minneapolis way up also: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

This is just too easy folks. When you create an anti-law enforcement, anti-prosecution atmosphere in your city, would-be criminals will exploit that environment. It's human nature 101.

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Once again: how do you know this isn't just continuing the homicide spike that began with the pandemic lockdowns?

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve I posted, you can clearly see that there's a knee in the curve in late May showing increased murders. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since the defund/abolish crowds have been active. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the liberal ideological house of cards.

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Seriously? One spike in late May in one city is enough evidence for you? I suspect you just wanted it to be true already and will take any evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion.

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve he posted, I think that also coincided with a heat wave and/or a full moon and/or something dumb Trump or one of his cronies said. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since Trump brought white nationalism into the white house. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the conservative ideological house of cards.

Did I do it right?

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You think you need to bat 1000 in order to hold your ground. I don't. I don't like Trump and I didn't vote for him. Beyond your forum posting, I suspect you live more like a Republican than I do.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/violent-crime-soars-confidence-in-police-takes-hit/index.html

Violent crime rises during pandemic as confidence in police takes a hit. (CNN played a role undermining confidence in police and now reporting the consequences.)

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From May to June 2020, homicides in 20 major US cities increased by 37%, led by Chicago, Philadelphia and Milwaukee, according to new data from the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) think tank.

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What do these 3 cities have in common? Democrat mayors.

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Still waiting for the DNC speech that cites these Dem cities' successes and promises to roll out the same formula nationwide. That ought to attract swing voters!

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What policies and actions have big city Republican mayors used to limit crime in 2020?

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The starting point is probably refraining from demonizing local law enforcement officers.

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You think demonizing local law enforcement officers lead to an increase in homicides in those cities? Any evidence to support this claim?

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Pretty good knee in the Chicago curve in late May if you ask me: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

Portland's July had the most murders in 3 decades: https://nypost.com/2020/08/03/portland-sees-a-record-number-of-murders-in-july-amid-protests/

Minneapolis way up also: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

This is just too easy folks. When you create an anti-law enforcement, anti-prosecution atmosphere in your city, would-be criminals will exploit that environment. It's human nature 101.

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Once again: how do you know this isn't just continuing the homicide spike that began with the pandemic lockdowns?

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve I posted, you can clearly see that there's a knee in the curve in late May showing increased murders. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since the defund/abolish crowds have been active. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the liberal ideological house of cards.

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Seriously? One spike in late May in one city is enough evidence for you? I suspect you just wanted it to be true already and will take any evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion.

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve he posted, I think that also coincided with a heat wave and/or a full moon and/or something dumb Trump or one of his cronies said. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since Trump brought white nationalism into the white house. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the conservative ideological house of cards.

Did I do it right?

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You think you need to bat 1000 in order to hold your ground. I don't. I don't like Trump and I didn't vote for him. Beyond your forum posting, I suspect you live more like a Republican than I do.

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What do you think Republicans live like? Is it a good thing to live like Republicans or a bad thing? I honestly have no idea what you're even talking about.

I don't think you need to bat .1000, but once in a while would it kill you to back up your assertions with an actual argument other than "a democrats was in the vicinity"?

We get it - you think that Democrats are responsible for all problems. If you came here to make assertions that you can't substantiate, don't be surprised to be called out on it. I've never claimed to have a perfect track record but at least I make an effort to connect the dots. I wish I could say the same for you.

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https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Most Dangerous Cities

https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Top 20 Cities for Crime, and What Party Runs Them

Top 20 cities are all run by Democrat mayors except for 2 which held non-partisan elections.

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Yep. It's impossible for the leftists to deny those cold, hard facts. No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate.

It's also true that virtually all of the recent violence, riots, arson, looting, and property destruction has occurred in Democrat-run cities: Portland, Seattle, Oakland, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. God help us if they win the election and start running the country.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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We're in the middle of a largely self-inflicted public health crisis, the economy is hobbled, Russia put bounties on our troops and our commander in chief is too scared to ask him about it, we have had people across the political spectrum protesting our government this year, Trump praises a conspiracy theory based on his involvement that he is too dumb to understand, the federal government is running at a larger deficit than ever ($4T and counting!), and the list goes on and on.

I hear all of the worst-case scenarios people like you have been warning us about and they all sound better than what we have right now. Is there anyone who really thinks we are better off now than we were under Obama? Can that argument be credibly made? If so, I certainly haven't heard it.

Based on the bolded statements in your post, I am somewhat heartened that you understand you've lost the debate.

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Prior to the China virus, we were, indeed, a lot better off than under Obama. Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. Lowest unemployment rate for blacks and hispanics in history. The economy was the best in our lifetimes. Trade imbalances were significantly reduced. The ISIS caliphate was destroyed. Two global terrorist leaders were killed. And best of all, Trump is the first President in 40 years to not have gotten the U.S. involved in a war. Obama can't claim any of that. When the China virus hit, Trump almost immediately banned all travel to the U.S. from China, and shortly thereafter from Europe. Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, and most other Democrats strongly criticized him for those travel bans. If he hadn't acted so promptly and decisively, the virus in our country would have been much worse. Plus he bailed out Gov. Cuomo by sending a fully staffed hospital ship to NYC and built a 1,500 bed hospital in the Javits
center within a matter of days. He promptly ramped up ventilator production by marshalling U.S. manufactures so that there was never a shortage of ventilators in the U.S. He also ramped up the production of PPE to levels never before achieved. He commissioned Operation Warp Speed, which is resulting in the quickest development of a vaccine that the world has ever seen. We now have 3 vaccines in stage 3 trials, just 5 months after the virus took hold in our country.

You folks with TDS are just plain nuts. You certainly have the right to hate Trump for whatever your reasons may be, but you don't have the right to make up facts that bear no resemblance to the truth or reality. So, please stop with your bullsh*t, because it's getting very old and tired. I don't like a lot of Trump's personality traits and his excessive tweeting. But I think his overall performance in office has been very good. It's tough when you're trying to cleanup the swamp of Washington, D.C., but I give him credit for taking on the task. No President in modern history has had the guts to even try.



Liberalism is a mental illness.

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Please help me understand your argument. Here is a chart of GDP growth. Please show me the Trumpism peak.
https://images.app.goo.gl/4CTnSxqbvnxyqP4U6

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Your chart proves my point in terms of sustained GDP growth.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Most Dangerous Cities

https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Top 20 Cities for Crime, and What Party Runs Them

Top 20 cities are all run by Democrat mayors except for 2 which held non-partisan elections.

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Yep. It's impossible for the leftists to deny those cold, hard facts. No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate.

It's also true that virtually all of the recent violence, riots, arson, looting, and property destruction has occurred in Democrat-run cities: Portland, Seattle, Oakland, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. God help us if they win the election and start running the country.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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We're in the middle of a largely self-inflicted public health crisis, the economy is hobbled, Russia put bounties on our troops and our commander in chief is too scared to ask him about it, we have had people across the political spectrum protesting our government this year, Trump praises a conspiracy theory based on his involvement that he is too dumb to understand, the federal government is running at a larger deficit than ever ($4T and counting!), and the list goes on and on.

I hear all of the worst-case scenarios people like you have been warning us about and they all sound better than what we have right now. Is there anyone who really thinks we are better off now than we were under Obama? Can that argument be credibly made? If so, I certainly haven't heard it.

Based on the bolded statements in your post, I am somewhat heartened that you understand you've lost the debate.

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Prior to the China virus, we were, indeed, a lot better off than under Obama. Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. Lowest unemployment rate for blacks and hispanics in history. The economy was the best in our lifetimes. Trade imbalances were significantly reduced.

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Why would anyone care about things the way they were before Trump mounted the world's worse defense to COVID?

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You folks with TDS are just plain nuts. You certainly have the right to hate Trump for whatever your reasons may be, but you don't have the right to make up facts that bear no resemblance to the truth or reality. So, please stop with your bullsh*t, because it's getting very old and tired. I don't like a lot of Trump's personality traits and his excessive tweeting. But I think his overall performance in office has been very good. It's tough when you're trying to cleanup the swamp of Washington, D.C., but I give him credit for taking on the task. No President in modern history has had the guts to even try.

Liberalism is a mental illness.

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Earlier today you said "No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate." I called you out for it and your response is to launch insults.

Trump will end his term in office with the lowest approval rating since they began tracking it with FDR. 175k people have died from a pandemic because Trump didn't care and he has the gall to attack New Zealand for having an outbreak when they had 9 cases in a day (and have had just under 2 dozen deaths to date). According to people like you, crime is on the rise. Sports are cancelled. Kids can't go to school in person. We are breaking all kinds of unemployment records, and not good ones. Listening to you give a half-hearted defense of the job Trump has done by reference to facts that haven't been true in many months makes me a little sad for you honestly. You sound like Baghdad Bob.

To the extent there can be any legitimate debate about Trump's performance, you know you've lost it.

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Like the other leftists on this site, you just make up stuff and represent that stuff as facts. You didn't address any of the Trump accomplishments I referenced, because you can't deny them. At least you should try to acknowledge them. You don't even have the common sense to acknowledge that the COVID pandemic is the cause of the economic slowdown and other problems of the last 6 months. You can blame Trump all you want, but his response to the pandemic was a helluva lot better than most of the Democrat governors, whom Trump had to bail out. Take Cuomo for example. Trump didn't force COVID patients into nursing homes, resulting in thousands of deaths. Trump didn't say New Yorkers were too strong to be affected by COVID. You Dems have serious blind spots.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Most Dangerous Cities

https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Top 20 Cities for Crime, and What Party Runs Them

Top 20 cities are all run by Democrat mayors except for 2 which held non-partisan elections.

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Yep. It's impossible for the leftists to deny those cold, hard facts. No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate.

It's also true that virtually all of the recent violence, riots, arson, looting, and property destruction has occurred in Democrat-run cities: Portland, Seattle, Oakland, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. God help us if they win the election and start running the country.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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We're in the middle of a largely self-inflicted public health crisis, the economy is hobbled, Russia put bounties on our troops and our commander in chief is too scared to ask him about it, we have had people across the political spectrum protesting our government this year, Trump praises a conspiracy theory based on his involvement that he is too dumb to understand, the federal government is running at a larger deficit than ever ($4T and counting!), and the list goes on and on.

I hear all of the worst-case scenarios people like you have been warning us about and they all sound better than what we have right now. Is there anyone who really thinks we are better off now than we were under Obama? Can that argument be credibly made? If so, I certainly haven't heard it.

Based on the bolded statements in your post, I am somewhat heartened that you understand you've lost the debate.

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Prior to the China virus, we were, indeed, a lot better off than under Obama. Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. Lowest unemployment rate for blacks and hispanics in history. The economy was the best in our lifetimes. Trade imbalances were significantly reduced. The ISIS caliphate was destroyed. Two global terrorist leaders were killed. And best of all, Trump is the first President in 40 years to not have gotten the U.S. involved in a war. Obama can't claim any of that. When the China virus hit, Trump almost immediately banned all travel to the U.S. from China, and shortly thereafter from Europe. Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, and most other Democrats strongly criticized him for those travel bans. If he hadn't acted so promptly and decisively, the virus in our country would have been much worse. Plus he bailed out Gov. Cuomo by sending a fully staffed hospital ship to NYC and built a 1,500 bed hospital in the Javits
center within a matter of days. He promptly ramped up ventilator production by marshalling U.S. manufactures so that there was never a shortage of ventilators in the U.S. He also ramped up the production of PPE to levels never before achieved. He commissioned Operation Warp Speed, which is resulting in the quickest development of a vaccine that the world has ever seen. We now have 3 vaccines in stage 3 trials, just 5 months after the virus took hold in our country.

You folks with TDS are just plain nuts. You certainly have the right to hate Trump for whatever your reasons may be, but you don't have the right to make up facts that bear no resemblance to the truth or reality. So, please stop with your bullsh*t, because it's getting very old and tired. I don't like a lot of Trump's personality traits and his excessive tweeting. But I think his overall performance in office has been very good. It's tough when you're trying to cleanup the swamp of Washington, D.C., but I give him credit for taking on the task. No President in modern history has had the guts to even try.



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Are you better off now than 3 1/2 years ago? NO. tRump took an economy from Obama that was strong and robust and has bankrupt and destroyed the country just like he has done to all of his business ventures. Look Golden Shower, your act is tired and old and you are a moron. Time to move on loser.

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Well, here is from one moron to another. Hell yes, I'm a lot better off today (prior to COVID) than I was
3 1/2 year ago, and I'll bet you are too. You just don't want to admit it.


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That just means you owned a lot of assets going in (thank you Obama) or you run a funeral parlor

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You're wrong as usual. I don't own a funeral parlor, and my assets when Obama left office have substantially increased in value under Trump. Anyone invested in the stock market will say the same thing.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/violent-crime-soars-confidence-in-police-takes-hit/index.html

Violent crime rises during pandemic as confidence in police takes a hit. (CNN played a role undermining confidence in police and now reporting the consequences.)

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From May to June 2020, homicides in 20 major US cities increased by 37%, led by Chicago, Philadelphia and Milwaukee, according to new data from the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) think tank.

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What do these 3 cities have in common? Democrat mayors.

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Still waiting for the DNC speech that cites these Dem cities' successes and promises to roll out the same formula nationwide. That ought to attract swing voters!

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What policies and actions have big city Republican mayors used to limit crime in 2020?

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You think demonizing local law enforcement officers lead to an increase in homicides in those cities? Any evidence to support this claim?

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Pretty good knee in the Chicago curve in late May if you ask me: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

Portland's July had the most murders in 3 decades: https://nypost.com/2020/08/03/portland-sees-a-record-number-of-murders-in-july-amid-protests/

Minneapolis way up also: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

This is just too easy folks. When you create an anti-law enforcement, anti-prosecution atmosphere in your city, would-be criminals will exploit that environment. It's human nature 101.

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Once again: how do you know this isn't just continuing the homicide spike that began with the pandemic lockdowns?

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve I posted, you can clearly see that there's a knee in the curve in late May showing increased murders. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since the defund/abolish crowds have been active. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the liberal ideological house of cards.

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Seriously? One spike in late May in one city is enough evidence for you? I suspect you just wanted it to be true already and will take any evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion.

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Don't know for sure, but in the case of the Chicago curve he posted, I think that also coincided with a heat wave and/or a full moon and/or something dumb Trump or one of his cronies said. That's enough evidence for me, but I do understand that no one can prove it definitively. But let's be honest, hostilities have increased to a fever pitch since Trump brought white nationalism into the white house. I don't see how acknowledging that destabilizes the conservative ideological house of cards.

Did I do it right?

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You think you need to bat 1000 in order to hold your ground. I don't. I don't like Trump and I didn't vote for him. Beyond your forum posting, I suspect you live more like a Republican than I do.

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What do you think Republicans live like? Is it a good thing to live like Republicans or a bad thing? I honestly have no idea what you're even talking about.

I don't think you need to bat .1000, but once in a while would it kill you to back up your assertions with an actual argument other than "a democrats was in the vicinity"?

We get it - you think that Democrats are responsible for all problems. If you came here to make assertions that you can't substantiate, don't be surprised to be called out on it. I've never claimed to have a perfect track record but at least I make an effort to connect the dots. I wish I could say the same for you.

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I think it's pretty elementary to say that the Democrat mayors of the large cities have allowed--and even encouraged through inaction or worse--chaos to reign on their watch. Only an unreasonable person would deny this. They've caved to the most radical fringes of the party. They've left small business people alone to fend for themselves while backing what they feel passes for protests. It's something you just need to own. I own that Trump is a dangerous idiot; you need to own that the Democrat mayors have abdicated their core responsibilities . Try it. It's cathartic.

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https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Most Dangerous Cities

https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Top 20 Cities for Crime, and What Party Runs Them

Top 20 cities are all run by Democrat mayors except for 2 which held non-partisan elections.

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Yep. It's impossible for the leftists to deny those cold, hard facts. No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate.

It's also true that virtually all of the recent violence, riots, arson, looting, and property destruction has occurred in Democrat-run cities: Portland, Seattle, Oakland, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. God help us if they win the election and start running the country.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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We're in the middle of a largely self-inflicted public health crisis, the economy is hobbled, Russia put bounties on our troops and our commander in chief is too scared to ask him about it, we have had people across the political spectrum protesting our government this year, Trump praises a conspiracy theory based on his involvement that he is too dumb to understand, the federal government is running at a larger deficit than ever ($4T and counting!), and the list goes on and on.

I hear all of the worst-case scenarios people like you have been warning us about and they all sound better than what we have right now. Is there anyone who really thinks we are better off now than we were under Obama? Can that argument be credibly made? If so, I certainly haven't heard it.

Based on the bolded statements in your post, I am somewhat heartened that you understand you've lost the debate.

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Prior to the China virus, we were, indeed, a lot better off than under Obama. Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. Lowest unemployment rate for blacks and hispanics in history. The economy was the best in our lifetimes. Trade imbalances were significantly reduced. The ISIS caliphate was destroyed. Two global terrorist leaders were killed. And best of all, Trump is the first President in 40 years to not have gotten the U.S. involved in a war. Obama can't claim any of that. When the China virus hit, Trump almost immediately banned all travel to the U.S. from China, and shortly thereafter from Europe. Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, and most other Democrats strongly criticized him for those travel bans. If he hadn't acted so promptly and decisively, the virus in our country would have been much worse. Plus he bailed out Gov. Cuomo by sending a fully staffed hospital ship to NYC and built a 1,500 bed hospital in the Javits
center within a matter of days. He promptly ramped up ventilator production by marshalling U.S. manufactures so that there was never a shortage of ventilators in the U.S. He also ramped up the production of PPE to levels never before achieved. He commissioned Operation Warp Speed, which is resulting in the quickest development of a vaccine that the world has ever seen. We now have 3 vaccines in stage 3 trials, just 5 months after the virus took hold in our country.

You folks with TDS are just plain nuts. You certainly have the right to hate Trump for whatever your reasons may be, but you don't have the right to make up facts that bear no resemblance to the truth or reality. So, please stop with your bullsh*t, because it's getting very old and tired. I don't like a lot of Trump's personality traits and his excessive tweeting. But I think his overall performance in office has been very good. It's tough when you're trying to cleanup the swamp of Washington, D.C., but I give him credit for taking on the task. No President in modern history has had the guts to even try.



Liberalism is a mental illness.

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Please help me understand your argument. Here is a chart of GDP growth. Please show me the Trumpism peak.
https://images.app.goo.gl/4CTnSxqbvnxyqP4U6

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Your chart proves my point in terms of sustained GDP growth.


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Then Trump's big economic claim is no better than what any other President since FDR can claim. Are we supposed to be impressed?

And then, with his bungling of the virus response, Trump sent the economy crashing down.

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https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Most Dangerous Cities

https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Top 20 Cities for Crime, and What Party Runs Them

Top 20 cities are all run by Democrat mayors except for 2 which held non-partisan elections.

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Yep. It's impossible for the leftists to deny those cold, hard facts. No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate.

It's also true that virtually all of the recent violence, riots, arson, looting, and property destruction has occurred in Democrat-run cities: Portland, Seattle, Oakland, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. God help us if they win the election and start running the country.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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We're in the middle of a largely self-inflicted public health crisis, the economy is hobbled, Russia put bounties on our troops and our commander in chief is too scared to ask him about it, we have had people across the political spectrum protesting our government this year, Trump praises a conspiracy theory based on his involvement that he is too dumb to understand, the federal government is running at a larger deficit than ever ($4T and counting!), and the list goes on and on.

I hear all of the worst-case scenarios people like you have been warning us about and they all sound better than what we have right now. Is there anyone who really thinks we are better off now than we were under Obama? Can that argument be credibly made? If so, I certainly haven't heard it.

Based on the bolded statements in your post, I am somewhat heartened that you understand you've lost the debate.

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Prior to the China virus, we were, indeed, a lot better off than under Obama. Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. Lowest unemployment rate for blacks and hispanics in history. The economy was the best in our lifetimes. Trade imbalances were significantly reduced. The ISIS caliphate was destroyed. Two global terrorist leaders were killed. And best of all, Trump is the first President in 40 years to not have gotten the U.S. involved in a war. Obama can't claim any of that. When the China virus hit, Trump almost immediately banned all travel to the U.S. from China, and shortly thereafter from Europe. Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, and most other Democrats strongly criticized him for those travel bans. If he hadn't acted so promptly and decisively, the virus in our country would have been much worse. Plus he bailed out Gov. Cuomo by sending a fully staffed hospital ship to NYC and built a 1,500 bed hospital in the Javits
center within a matter of days. He promptly ramped up ventilator production by marshalling U.S. manufactures so that there was never a shortage of ventilators in the U.S. He also ramped up the production of PPE to levels never before achieved. He commissioned Operation Warp Speed, which is resulting in the quickest development of a vaccine that the world has ever seen. We now have 3 vaccines in stage 3 trials, just 5 months after the virus took hold in our country.

You folks with TDS are just plain nuts. You certainly have the right to hate Trump for whatever your reasons may be, but you don't have the right to make up facts that bear no resemblance to the truth or reality. So, please stop with your bullsh*t, because it's getting very old and tired. I don't like a lot of Trump's personality traits and his excessive tweeting. But I think his overall performance in office has been very good. It's tough when you're trying to cleanup the swamp of Washington, D.C., but I give him credit for taking on the task. No President in modern history has had the guts to even try.



Liberalism is a mental illness.

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Are you better off now than 3 1/2 years ago? NO. tRump took an economy from Obama that was strong and robust and has bankrupt and destroyed the country just like he has done to all of his business ventures. Look Golden Shower, your act is tired and old and you are a moron. Time to move on loser.

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Well, here is from one moron to another. Hell yes, I'm a lot better off today (prior to COVID) than I was
3 1/2 year ago, and I'll bet you are too. You just don't want to admit it.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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That just means you owned a lot of assets going in (thank you Obama) or you run a funeral parlor

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You're wrong as usual. I don't own a funeral parlor, and my assets when Obama left office have substantially increased in value under Trump. Anyone invested in the stock market will say the same thing.


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Yes, that's what I said. When the Obama Presidency had ended you had built up a nice asset base to invest (thank you Obama). Those assets are now worth more. People without assets are screwed.

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https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Most Dangerous Cities

https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Top 20 Cities for Crime, and What Party Runs Them

Top 20 cities are all run by Democrat mayors except for 2 which held non-partisan elections.

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Yep. It's impossible for the leftists to deny those cold, hard facts. No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate.

It's also true that virtually all of the recent violence, riots, arson, looting, and property destruction has occurred in Democrat-run cities: Portland, Seattle, Oakland, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. God help us if they win the election and start running the country.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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We're in the middle of a largely self-inflicted public health crisis, the economy is hobbled, Russia put bounties on our troops and our commander in chief is too scared to ask him about it, we have had people across the political spectrum protesting our government this year, Trump praises a conspiracy theory based on his involvement that he is too dumb to understand, the federal government is running at a larger deficit than ever ($4T and counting!), and the list goes on and on.

I hear all of the worst-case scenarios people like you have been warning us about and they all sound better than what we have right now. Is there anyone who really thinks we are better off now than we were under Obama? Can that argument be credibly made? If so, I certainly haven't heard it.

Based on the bolded statements in your post, I am somewhat heartened that you understand you've lost the debate.

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Prior to the China virus, we were, indeed, a lot better off than under Obama. Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. Lowest unemployment rate for blacks and hispanics in history. The economy was the best in our lifetimes. Trade imbalances were significantly reduced.

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Why would anyone care about things the way they were before Trump mounted the world's worse defense to COVID?

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You folks with TDS are just plain nuts. You certainly have the right to hate Trump for whatever your reasons may be, but you don't have the right to make up facts that bear no resemblance to the truth or reality. So, please stop with your bullsh*t, because it's getting very old and tired. I don't like a lot of Trump's personality traits and his excessive tweeting. But I think his overall performance in office has been very good. It's tough when you're trying to cleanup the swamp of Washington, D.C., but I give him credit for taking on the task. No President in modern history has had the guts to even try.

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Earlier today you said "No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate." I called you out for it and your response is to launch insults.

Trump will end his term in office with the lowest approval rating since they began tracking it with FDR. 175k people have died from a pandemic because Trump didn't care and he has the gall to attack New Zealand for having an outbreak when they had 9 cases in a day (and have had just under 2 dozen deaths to date). According to people like you, crime is on the rise. Sports are cancelled. Kids can't go to school in person. We are breaking all kinds of unemployment records, and not good ones. Listening to you give a half-hearted defense of the job Trump has done by reference to facts that haven't been true in many months makes me a little sad for you honestly. You sound like Baghdad Bob.

To the extent there can be any legitimate debate about Trump's performance, you know you've lost it.

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Like the other leftists on this site, you just make up stuff and represent that stuff as facts. You didn't address any of the Trump accomplishments I referenced, because you can't deny them. At least you should try to acknowledge them. You don't even have the common sense to acknowledge that the COVID pandemic is the cause of the economic slowdown and other problems of the last 6 months. You can blame Trump all you want, but his response to the pandemic was a helluva lot better than most of the Democrat governors, whom Trump had to bail out. Take Cuomo for example. Trump didn't force COVID patients into nursing homes, resulting in thousands of deaths. Trump didn't say New Yorkers were too strong to be affected by COVID. You Dems have serious blind spots.


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I suppose I should say that I agree if your lifetime started in 2017 this was the best economy in our lifetimes, but many of us were born before that. The economy was better under Bush II before he cratered it. The economy was better under Clinton before the dotcom boom. I think you would probably say the economy was better in the 80's under your hero Reagan as well.

Trump's continuation of the economic expansion that started under Obama will be noteworthy because he fueled it with ever higher levels of government debt and he made it even harder to respond to the crisis he eventually caused. In other words, history will remember how Trump killed the economy, not how he continued it to that point.

I posted some graphs in response to a discussion with LMK5 in February which I will link to: here. If you actually click on the link and read the post, I would be happy to discuss your response.

I'll post just a few charts for those that won't click - these charts show trends that started under Obama with an end date of late 2019.







It's quite obvious that the economy is in shambles now because of COVID. That's not an argument in favor of Trump. You give him all of the credit in the world for an economy that he didn't build, and accord him none of the blame for the downturn caused by his indifference. You love to blame democrat governors for their failures early in the pandemic but have not a peep for the many many failures of republican governors (Florida, Texas, Arizona, Georgia) when it was beyond obvious what needed to be done. We are performing worse against COVID than any peer nation. No credible person would believe that the federal government has no responsibility in the matter but you continue to defend the person who has both said that he takes no responsibility and has also demanded credit for his response.

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Thank you for proving my point. Now, head back to the kids table, because the grownups are talking important stuff and your babbling and pooh throwing aren't helping, junior.

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We get it - you think that Democrats are responsible for all problems. If you came here to make assertions that you can't substantiate, don't be surprised to be called out on it. I've never claimed to have a perfect track record but at least I make an effort to connect the dots. I wish I could say the same for you.

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LMK does connect the dots. He connects two dots of his choosing and calls it a day.

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https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Most Dangerous Cities

https://www.countable.us/articles/45179-america-s-top-20-cities-crime-party-runs

America's Top 20 Cities for Crime, and What Party Runs Them

Top 20 cities are all run by Democrat mayors except for 2 which held non-partisan elections.

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Yep. It's impossible for the leftists to deny those cold, hard facts. No doubt, however, they will pull their usual B.S. and launch insults at you, call you a racist, and refer to by various uncomplimentary names. That's what they do when they lose the debate.

It's also true that virtually all of the recent violence, riots, arson, looting, and property destruction has occurred in Democrat-run cities: Portland, Seattle, Oakland, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. God help us if they win the election and start running the country.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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We're in the middle of a largely self-inflicted public health crisis, the economy is hobbled, Russia put bounties on our troops and our commander in chief is too scared to ask him about it, we have had people across the political spectrum protesting our government this year, Trump praises a conspiracy theory based on his involvement that he is too dumb to understand, the federal government is running at a larger deficit than ever ($4T and counting!), and the list goes on and on.

I hear all of the worst-case scenarios people like you have been warning us about and they all sound better than what we have right now. Is there anyone who really thinks we are better off now than we were under Obama? Can that argument be credibly made? If so, I certainly haven't heard it.

Based on the bolded statements in your post, I am somewhat heartened that you understand you've lost the debate.

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Prior to the China virus, we were, indeed, a lot better off than under Obama. Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. Lowest unemployment rate for blacks and hispanics in history. The economy was the best in our lifetimes. Trade imbalances were significantly reduced. The ISIS caliphate was destroyed. Two global terrorist leaders were killed. And best of all, Trump is the first President in 40 years to not have gotten the U.S. involved in a war. Obama can't claim any of that. When the China virus hit, Trump almost immediately banned all travel to the U.S. from China, and shortly thereafter from Europe. Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, and most other Democrats strongly criticized him for those travel bans. If he hadn't acted so promptly and decisively, the virus in our country would have been much worse. Plus he bailed out Gov. Cuomo by sending a fully staffed hospital ship to NYC and built a 1,500 bed hospital in the Javits
center within a matter of days. He promptly ramped up ventilator production by marshalling U.S. manufactures so that there was never a shortage of ventilators in the U.S. He also ramped up the production of PPE to levels never before achieved. He commissioned Operation Warp Speed, which is resulting in the quickest development of a vaccine that the world has ever seen. We now have 3 vaccines in stage 3 trials, just 5 months after the virus took hold in our country.

You folks with TDS are just plain nuts. You certainly have the right to hate Trump for whatever your reasons may be, but you don't have the right to make up facts that bear no resemblance to the truth or reality. So, please stop with your bullsh*t, because it's getting very old and tired. I don't like a lot of Trump's personality traits and his excessive tweeting. But I think his overall performance in office has been very good. It's tough when you're trying to cleanup the swamp of Washington, D.C., but I give him credit for taking on the task. No President in modern history has had the guts to even try.



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I noticed another swap member (Bannon) from the tRump crime ring was arrested for fraud. When are tRump supporters going to finally figure out you are nothing but suckers used to enrich the tRump crime family.

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Suspect in Portland Beating Turns Himself in.

https://news.yahoo.com/suspect-portland-beating-turns-himself-202118922.html

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These lefties are scary. And they're cowards. Right AunBear?
Hey, I see your pal, Zach Greenberg is back in the news. It seems he stabbed someone. The article says Zack's assault case at Sproul hasn't been heard. Slimy *****.

57 shot, 5 fatally, so far this weekend in Chicago.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/8/23/21396881/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-august-21-24

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Sick little pervert gets his jollies over other people getting murdered. Disgusting excuse for a human. The right is full of sick little f&cks like you.

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The sick are those doing the shooting and the left wing media that refuses to report this.

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57 shot, 5 fatally, so far this weekend in Chicago.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/8/23/21396881/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-august-21-24

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Typical weekend in a Democrat-run city.


Liberalism is a mental illness.

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Sick little pervert gets his jollies over other people getting murdered. Disgusting excuse for a human. The right is full of sick little f&cks like you.

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The sick are those doing the shooting and the left wing media that refuses to report this.

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If the media refuses to report on any of this, where are you getting your article links form?

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Not CNN.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/01/us/chicago-homicides-shootings-july/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/nyc-chicago-gun-violence/index.html

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CNN has a narrative, it's gun violence in both articles. In other words, blame the guns.