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Shocky1;842098017 said:


carpet in my room breaks one cup right to left...vegas baby


You need to do like that old Bird-Magic commercial.
"Out the bathroom,
over the tile/carpet threshold,
off the door,
over the minibar,
bounce off the bed,
roll down the pillow,
nothing but net."

No, I wasn't trying to be silly, but come to think of it, you'd better have some company with you!
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ricky don't lose that number#
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More honors for Rooks: CIF Player of the Year (San Diego area, I think)

http://carlsbad.patch.com/articles/carlsbad-athletes-named-to-all-cif-teams-for-winter-sports#photo-9276190


Player of the Year
Kameron Rooks -> Cal

Also on First Team
Cheikh N'Diaye 7'1" -> Oregon State
Jeff Van Dyke -> Pepperdine
Brynton Lemar -> UC Davis
Xavier Williams -> Colorado State (football scholarship)
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ocean league mvp & lure nightclub vip jordan matthews scored 19 pts including a fatal 3pter with 2 seconds left as the santa monica vikings (29-6) continued their 5 month invasion of the soutland vs loyola (25-8) 53-50 in the so cal d1 finals

"i knew we were going to hit them with a dagger...i felt good about hitting it" said jm

who does matthews body type & skill set resemble?

jm reminds me of a slightly taller justin "ice man" cobbs...both have good (but not elite) speed but are physically relentless in attacking the rim, possess very strong shooting skills & are willing to grind on d...both also are highly intelligent with compatible cal bb program fit gpas (jm-3.55 gpa & jc-3.3 gpa)

sm hc james hecht, sounding like monty after the oregon game, said "big time players make big time shots...we wanted the ball in jordan's hands"

potential 2014 bears thomas welsh 7' after being scoreless in the 1st half awakened from his cubs hibernation with 17 pts including a clutch basket with under 2 minutes to tie the game at 50-50...welsh with a 3.8 gpa is not stooopid & is a bears priority
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j matthews, nba 3 pt ice in the veins shooter, named mvp of the cif so cal regional championships
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Point Guard U - U of A's fan site predicts that Aaron Gordon will announce his college decision at the McDonalds All American Game. The 36th annual Boys Game at Chicago's United Center will be held on April 3, 2013.http://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/content/dam/allamerican/pdfs/2013FinalTeamRosters3.pdf
Aaron Gordon STRAIGHT KILLS ONE DOWN THE LANE!!!! Mitty off to STATE!!!!
http://po.st/9Nn4X4
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Vineyardview;842100152 said:

Point Guard U - U of A's fan site predicts that Aaron Gordon will announce his college decision at the McDonalds All American Game. The 36th annual Boys Game at Chicago's United Center will be held on April 3, 2013.http://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/content/dam/allamerican/pdfs/2013FinalTeamRosters3.pdf
Aaron Gordon STRAIGHT KILLS ONE DOWN THE LANE!!!! Mitty off to STATE!!!!
http://po.st/9Nn4X4


If Alan Crabbe could(would?) do that, he'd be a lock for the NBA.
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Vineyardview;842100152 said:

Point Guard U - U of A's fan site predicts that Aaron Gordon will announce his college decision at the McDonalds All American Game. The 36th annual Boys Game at Chicago's United Center will be held on April 3, 2013.http://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/content/dam/allamerican/pdfs/2013FinalTeamRosters3.pdf
Aaron Gordon STRAIGHT KILLS ONE DOWN THE LANE!!!! Mitty off to STATE!!!!
http://po.st/9Nn4X4


There is also a story on a Rival site that confirms the story. This week Gavin Schilling and Jukius Randle - among others - announce on Wednesday. Check out this tweet from Joe Davidson of the SacBee on AG's list and a possible finalist..
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Joe Davidson writer at the ‏@SacBee_JoeD confirms that Cal is still in it to win it!

Aaron Gordon said he will announce his college during McDonald's All-American game next month. Down to Washington,Oregon,Kentucky,Cal,Az?...
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Joe Davidson seems to be rooting for a A Gordon to Cal commitment in his tweet: "Also wonder how cool it'd be to see Aaron Gordon teaming w Jabari Bird of Salesian at Cal. Mike Montgomery likely offers, "Yes please!"...

We Agree it would Beary good for Cal, Northern California and the Pac 12 basketball!!
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how will cal fans truly know that the bears have a chance of signing ag?

if during ag's announcement @mcdonalds all american game with 5 hats on the table, you see standing with the gordon family in the background friend jabari bird with a redunkulous smile on his face, that's gotta be a pretty good clue

ocean league mvp jordan matthews will lead the santa monica vikings (29-6) invasion of pleasant grove (27-6) this friday at sacramento's sleep (love) train arena @8:00 pm for the california state d1 championship
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Shocky1;842100940 said:


ocean league mvp jordan matthews will lead the santa monica vikings (29-6) invasion of pleasant grove (27-6) this friday at sacramento's sleep (love) train arena @8:00 pm for the california state d1 championship


I'm planning on going, and only wishing that more of the Cal recruits could have made it. Jabari would have faced off vs. AG. Rooks and the Loyola kid lost to Mathews on the path, so I guess I don't know what I'm actually saying - maybe if Campo had won 1 more miracle game that would be fun. Or Marcus Lee was also 1 game short. Oh well. Go SaMoHi.
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who b these guys in the ncaa tnt?

bears starting five:

alan crabbe (jr) obama 3.39 gpa@price 2013 pac 12 mvp
justin cobbs (jr) the ice man 3.3 gpa@bishop montgomery 2014 pac 12 mvp?
tyronne wallace (fr) t-wall 3.5 gpa@bakersfield smiling energizer bear
david kravish (so) doc kravish 4.1 gpa@lee's summit north smartest pac 12 starter
richard solomon (jr) solo 3.5 gpa@price late maturer huge upside
6th man ricky kreklow (so) 3.72 gpa@rocky bridge deadly 3 pt shooter

bears monster class:

jabari bird (2013) 3.0+ gpa@salesian mcdonalds all american
jordan matthews (2013) 3.55 gpa@santa monica clutch ocean league mvp
sam singer (2013) 3.4 gpa@ransom everglades 2135 hs pts
kameron rooks (2013) 3.5 gpa @mission hills cif sd section mvp
amhaad rorie (2014) 3.8 gpa@lincoln 2014 washington state mvp?

key returner for 2014:

christian behrens (so) 3.5 gpa@tahoma athletic big will compete for frontline pt

the only dumb azz in berkelely is oski who still hasn't graduated...


the university of california, berkelely=#1 ranked public university in the world
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the santa monica vikings pirate boat (ok, actually a chartered bus) left this morning for tomorrow night's invasion in sacramento

jordan matthews is averaging 24.6 ppg heading into the d1 championship game

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. check out the booty (not a reference to kim kardashian), mate...
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the thurminator: urban berkeley super hero#
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6 critical slam dunks in a march madness ncaa tnt game aside, is the thurminator truly a super hero?

robert thurman originally attended d3 norwich college in vermont on a full engineering academic scholarship after being on the north edwards hs honor roll all 4 yrs...our hero was kern county's delegate for boys state & was awarded the good scientist award at the california state science fair...it is unknown if he saved any little old ladies from burning buildings or vaporized any villains terrorizing kern county

the thurminator then arrived in cal and settled in berkeley with the assistance of jamal boykin...according to his dad walter his clothes then came from a combination of goodwill, thrift shops & walter's bro due to tight finances

although rt walked on at cal, thru hard work monty eventually awarded him a much appreciated bb scholly & the rest b history

thank you walter & shelley for sharing the thurminator with the bears family & the free world

cal bb=amazing student athletes


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the thurminator does not embarazzz himself by carrying gucci purses like shabaazzz

super hero with standards#
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ucla just offered bear pf 2014 target idrissa diallo

of course, if ben "where's my rogaine" howland gets fired next week...

in gottlieb we trust#
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life of a coach:

jordan and jonah matthews' dad phil (previously the hc at usf) will miss his sons' once in a lifetime hs game tonight while coaching the bruins (what a pain in the butt designing plays to make sure shabazzz gets to jack up enough shots) vs minnesota in austin in the dance

hopefully j&j's mom margie will represent the matthews tonight in sacramento against a local crowd favorite pleasant grove (elk grove) in the cif d1 championship game

go vikings
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jordan matthews hs career ended with only 9 pts due to 2 separate injuries that put him on the bench along with fouling out early in the 4 q as the santa monica vikings (29-7) were conquered by highly disciplined pleasant grove 73-57 in the cif d1 championship game

jm will hopefully use this disappointment as fuel for his summer workouts as he arrives early in berkeley this july...he has been able to outmuscle hs players with his relentless driving in the paint but will need to work on his quickness for the next level as a key guard in the bears rotation next season
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local article about Bird

http://richmondconfidential.org/2013/03/21/salesian-high-basketball-star-prepares-for-future-at-cal-and-all-american-basketball-game/
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concordtom;842103955 said:

local article about Bird

http://richmondconfidential.org/2013/03/21/salesian-high-basketball-star-prepares-for-future-at-cal-and-all-american-basketball-game/


"it's a blessing," said bird of his selection to the all american team, "but school is part of my daily job...for me to be successful in basketball i need to be successful in school first...that's just a part of everything i do"

cal bb=amazing student athletes

young dude with big dreams!#
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"It's like a dream come true," Bird said of her son playing so close to home. "To be very honest we thought at one point he'd be going away. And at the last minute, that last visit to Cal Berkeley, the love that he felt from everybody sealed the deal for him."

"Basically I wanted to stay home and have all my friends and family be able to see me on a regular basis," Bird said of his decision to play at Cal. "It hit me around the eighth and ninth grade [about my talent] when I started dunking the ball with ease and got a couple looks from colleges here-and-there. I got my first offer from Cal in the ninth grade and it kind of went off in my head that I was kind of good at this sport."


Shocky1;842103961 said:

"it's a blessing," said bird of his selection to the all american team, "but school is part of my daily job...for me to be successful in basketball i need to be successful in school first...that's just a part of everything i do"

cal bb=amazing student athletes

young dude with big dreams!#
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the 2013 overachieving bears were limited for a simple reason: non productive 3 pt shooters

the bears were a shocking .302 from 3 pt land during the entire season which placed them around #300 among d1 teams

the bears leading 3 pt shooter alan crabbe was a non impressive .348 which does not even place him among the top 100 3 pt shooters in d1

the bears monster class deadly shooters of bird, singer & matthews will significantly upgrade this fatal flaw in 2014

shooting matters#
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Shocky1;842104627 said:

the 2013 overachieving bears were limited for a simple reason: non productive 3 pt shooters

the bears were a shocking .302 from 3 pt land during the entire season which placed them around #300 among d1 teams

the bears leading 3 pt shooter alan crabbe was a non impressive .348 which does not even place him among the top 100 3 pt shooters in d1

the bears monster class deadly shooters of bird, singer & matthews will significantly upgrade this fatal flaw in 2014

shooting matters#


OR, taking a step further back beyond those numbers.... maybe it's that we don't have enough BIGS for opponents to defend to let those 3-pt shooters get better, open, looks. It's been no secret all year long that the way to beat Cal is stop Cobbs and Crabbe. Let everyone else beat you. So, safe to assume those C&C shots were covered as good as possible, as often as possible.

3FGA:
Crabbe, 179
Wallace, 90
Cobbs, 75
Smith, 27...

They let Wallace take as many as he could.
I suppose your argument is valid - if there could have been some help. I'm surprised Cobbs took so few.

I'll stand by my prior quote about Rooks potentially being huge for Cal. As quick as he can develop..... Not only do we need to replace Thurman NOW, we'll need to replace Solo next year this time. There's room for quality bigs at Cal. Come one, come all. Set the table for Mathews, Bird and Singer.
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concordtom;842104636 said:

OR, taking a step further back beyond those numbers.... maybe it's that we don't have enough BIGS for opponents to defend to let those 3-pt shooters get better, open, looks. It's been no secret all year long that the way to beat Cal is stop Cobbs and Crabbe. Let everyone else beat you. So, safe to assume those C&C shots were covered as good as possible, as often as possible.

3FGA:
Crabbe, 179
Wallace, 90
Cobbs, 75
Smith, 27...

They let Wallace take as many as he could.
I suppose your argument is valid - if there could have been some help. I'm surprised Cobbs took so few.

I'll stand by my prior quote about Rooks potentially being huge for Cal. As quick as he can develop..... Not only do we need to replace Thurman NOW, we'll need to replace Solo next year this time. There's room for quality bigs at Cal. Come one, come all. Set the table for Mathews, Bird and Singer.


This. It is the missing cog in the wheel. Consider how amazing the current team would have been with a 4 like Harper starting and David coming off the bench. We need a guy who can create in the post.
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socaltownie;842104696 said:

This. It is the missing cog in the wheel. Consider how amazing the current team would have been with a 4 like Harper starting and David coming off the bench. We need a guy who can create in the post.


Offensively a Harper would have been an upgrade over David. However, not defensively or on the boards.

Having added depth would have helped, of course.

Go Bears!
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south bender;842104712 said:

Offensively a Harper would have been an upgrade over David. However, not defensively or on the boards.

Having added depth would have helped, of course.

Go Bears!


True - but I thought where this team's upside was limited was its ability to get its scoring average up 5-7 points and to get its outside guys better looks. Our defense with David was very good but it is just really hard to score with our line up when people don't have to respect the post.
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for those of you with a new totally hot gf (or bf, whatever) that you met at pietro de positano on italy's sun drenched amalfi coast on the hotel's private boat on the way over to capri during spring break, here's an overview for them re: your bears

who is oski?

oski is a cranky, sometimes socially insensitive, slightly overweight bears icon who stomps around haas pointing & glaring at the refs

how is this oski different than monty?

no difference

oski=monty except he also has a classy wife sarah and very cute daughter anne

after ben braun's academic slide into the abyss (shades of jt's final years), is monty recruiting better student athletes?

bears starting line up:

alan crabbe-3.39 gpa@price
justin cobbs-3.3 gpa@bishop montgomery
tyrone wallace-3.5 gpa@bakersfield
david kravish-4.1 gpa@lee's summit north
richard solomon-3.5 gpa@price
6th man ricky kreklow-3.72@rocky bridge
potential 1st big off the bench christian behrens-3.5@tahoma

bears monster class:

jabari bird-3.0+gpa@salesian
jordan matthews-3.55 gpa@santa montica
sam singer-3.4 gpa@ransom everglades
kameron rooks-3.5 gpa@mission hills
amhaad rorie-3.8 gpa@lincoln

did monty fully understand the unique challenges of recruiting student athletes to cal when he first arrived in berkeley?

no and mistakes were made...organizational personnel changes have addresssed this past liability

how strong is the bears current recruiting team?

travis, gottlieb & monty jr under jay john's watchful eye are relentless & work as hard as any staff on the west coast

monty is a good closer but not interested in watching 200 aau games every summer

will there be any player roster changes (plural) this offseason?

yes-most likely

what is the worst case scenario for alan crabbe?

mpl (maximum potential loss) is ac being drafted in the 2nd round (which means no guaranteed money), getting cut and then playing in the development league or playing abroad (remember this is a guy who until this last year went home to la every summer rather than stay in berkeley), becoming burned out with the ruthless grind and then being a 25 year old guy looking for work with no diploma

who are the key recruits for 2014?

pg faciilitator/distributor amhaad rorie is blowing up nationally and his strong relationship with decuire is key

diallo-3.3 gpa devon hardin jr
fitzner-3.0+ gpa ryan anderson jr
welsh-3.8 gpa blue collar guy

denmark's 7' sami eleraky continues to make academic progress

loyola's max hazzard 2015 pg is likely a key target-describes cal as "a dream school" and will play for the oakland soldiers this summer

2015 #1 ivan rabb is critical

what college would ir select if he had to sign today?

based upon his growing direct relationship with mr cranky pants, the proximity of home to berkelely and his grandfather being a longtime bears fan, ir would be a golden bear imo...but today ain't nsd

how abysmal was the bears 3 pt shooting in 2012/2013?

the bears .302 places them around #300 among d1 teams and the bottom of the pac 12

the bears best 3 pt shooter ac shot .348 which does not place him among the top 100 in d1 (or even the top 20 in the pac 12)

will the bears monster class improve this weakness?

aubrey shelton, amhaad rorie's hs hc, sent me an email today advising that ar shot 45% this season

bird, singer & matthews are also excellent shooters

justin cobbs wore out as the season progressed which impacted his jumper but with less minutes likely played next season due to the incoming high quality depth he will be fresher down the stretch

ricky kreklow needs to get 100% healthy and shoot the rock like he did in hs when he was named mr missouri basketball

t-wall will work on his shooting and perhaps his mechanics with the staff

if the bears were such lousy shooters in 2012/2013 how did they finish 2nd in the pac 12 and win 21 games including a ncaa tnt game?

the bears played stingy d and led the pac 12 in fg % defense with .393..if the players adopt a tougher mental resolve to take charges and chase down loose balls like their hair is on fire, then even more d improvement is possible in 2013/2014

wouldn't it make sense for the bears to recruit a big with inside scoring post moves rather than improving their 3 pt shooting?

7' guys with inside scoring post moves that have strong academic profiles are as common as big foot or shareef abdur-rahim who graduated from cal recently with a 3.8 gpa

what are the most stoooopid comments made about the cal bb team?

"why doesn't monty just recruit a jc or international big?"

msf was a rare diamond who worked both academically and conditioning (lost 40 lbs) to compete and graduate from cal

monty isn't going to recruit a total db like transfer tony woods, oregon's starting center, who was asked to leave wake forrest after he beat the crap out of his live in gf (he is 6'10" 250 lbs) causing her serious spinal injuries...btw, monty has clownpunked the ducks for 11 consecutive victories in a row which will be extended next season even with one & dumb ag rolling like a shabazzz

if you feel compelled to mention another dumb azz player that "monty should have recruited," try including the player's gpa and academic profile too, ok?

where is the cal bb program positioned today in the pac 12?

arizona is outrecruitng everybody but in key games with comparable talent sean miller will be worked cuz he don't know xxx's and ooo's

ucla has major chemistry problems and needs a new hc...with larry drew & shabazz departing westwood, if kyle anderson declares for the draft (his meddling dad was a ben howland supporter), jordan adams mends slowly from his broken right foot and fatboy tony parker transfers back to georgia, the bruins might not win 10 games next season

colorado under tad boyle is doing everything the right way but as long as the bears outrecruit him for guys like wallace, kravish & matthews the bears will be ok vs the buffs

oregon's dana altman is a as sleazy but more successful kevin oneill with his transfers and non-academic playahs but with no rebounding next season his smoke & mirrors of cutting corners will crash & burn

washington is imploding with gaddy, ndiaye and suggs all graduating...if wilcox declares for the draft, then the huskies will win 7-8 games next season...lorenzo romar is a solid family man with admirable values but his inexplicable decision to not suspend venroy overton when he was first charged with pimping underage girls has resulted in his recruiting to drop off the map

stanford will be strong next season but then their 6 key srs will graduate and then the cards will be the worst team in the pac 12 the following year & mr personality johnny dawkins will be fired

bottom line, during the last 5 years under monty's guidance, the bears have won more leagues games than any other school in the pac 12, have made the big dance 4 times & produced 3 pac mvps while also cleaning up ben braun's academic nightmare

what will be the bears best roadtrip in 2013/2014?

other than true wingman powers scoping out the desert babes, maui baby!

can the bears win a national championship with monty?

if the bears can sign ivan rabb, then the 2015/2016 bears will start:

ivan rabb (fr)-future lottery pick
jabari bird (jr)-future lottery pick
kameron rooks (jr)-if he progresses like his dad sean...you can't teach soft hands, shooting skills and strength (sorry ml)
back up bigs among diallo (so), fitzner (so), welsh (so) and maybe sami (jr)
2 guards among: wallace (sr), matthews (jr), singer (jr) and rorie (so)

that's an elite 8 team or better imo

if they all return in 2016/2017 (other than t-wall graduating), then the bears will have the elite physical talent with big game experience coupled with the necessary gameday coaching/planning to potentially win a ncaa national championship in d1 basketball


the university of california, berkelely=#1 ranked public university in the world
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Shocky1, I enjoyed your post, its scope and its optimism.

Keep it up!

Go Bears!
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Thanks for responding to my thread. Very informative!
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don't forget 2015 means dr. k will be a senior with 3 prior yrs experience as a starter.
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Great stuff.
Keep building this basketball program.
Excited for the future!
Go Bears!!!
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On the downside, the article includes this:
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Bird will join Matt Beeuwsaert (1984), Jason Kidd (1992), Shareef Abdur-Rahim (1995) and Leon Powe (2003) as the only McDonald's All Americans to play basketball at Cal.

As the article notes, Aaron Gordon is a McD's player this year. Throwaway thought by random writer still a bad omen..
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concordtom;842105674 said:

don't forget 2015 means dr. k will be a senior with 3 prior yrs experience as a starter.


dk will graduate after the 2014/2015 season
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