bearmanpg;842375257 said:
I'm back!!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
The shockster got you by the tip of your tongue, eh? Sure wasn't two bears ah dancin'.
bearmanpg;842375257 said:
I'm back!!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
socaltownie;842375054 said:
Re Serrano: OK....so I am sure to butcher some of the details (Sunday morning and I am still on cloud 9 from watching a blown FG attempt ;-) It is a running joke that there are 5 people in the entire state that fully understand school financing formulas and they are never allowed to travel together and one is always in a secure vault in case of disaster.
That said, what I understand is that Serrano V. Priest I, II, and III combined to say that there was an equal protection problem with the relationship between tax rates and per pupil spending in California COUNTIES. Essentially you had some counties, because of few kids and lots of property value where people where paying LESS in taxes (I believe in the case measured on a proportion of income) but getting more school. What the courts said is that this was illegal. It was mirrored/similar to a number of other challenges at the same time.
California's policy response was the "average daily attendance" formula - where the state said you would spend X per pupil per day of attendance. To get to X you took the property tax collected and then used state money to "get up" to the ADA levels. So you had this weird situation where locals where not BETTER off raising the property tax rate. The state wasn't going to allow that extra investment to flow to local schools - even though we know that there is a strong connection between school quality (perceived) and property values. Taxpayers rightly said "well then we would be DUMB to raise our property taxes". Fischel and Martin (see above) are really good on this. They have a great argument going on in the literature.
Re Prop 13 and the post prop "fix". The other thing that is important in Prop 13 is the legislative 'fix" enacted in 1978 (the precise Assembly resolution escapes me - My co-teacher covers that in my regionalism course). What that did was try to "equalize the pain". So the basics was that the state looked at how a dollar in property tax was divided up in 1975 and then kept that as the proportion that flowed to various property supported entities (counties, school districts, cities, special districts). What this did was have the effect that if you (county, city, Special district) were a big spender (or an urban county) prior to prop 13 you got to keep a lot more of your property tax money. In turn, the state backfills the local school district with ADA money. However, if you were a rural county (or ESPECIALLY an exurban county) you were screwed. Your local government units got very little property tax, your school districts got more, you got less ADA money and the state thanked you and sent you an XMAS card.
NOw this was supposed to be temporary. But because LA and SF are particularly big winners in this formula there has never been a majority that has been willing to do anything other than tweak around the edges. And local government adjusted. Anytime you see miles of automalls and other efforts to chase sales tax (distributed according to where the sale takes place) you can blame prop 13.
And now, like my undergrads, you have been bored spitless by a discussion of CA finance. Go back to relishing a missed FG and being in First place in the pac-12 north ;-)
OdontoBear66;842375359 said:
The shockster got you by the tip of your tongue, eh? Sure wasn't two bears ah dancin'.
HoopDreams;842375834 said:
Cal hosted ESPN Top 100 Kerwin Roach on an official visit
He watched the Cal coaches run the players through a practice, and presumably enjoyed a beautiful day in Berkeley
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Shocky1;842375950 said:
cuonzo martin is personally handling the recruitment of caleb swanigan, a top 10 2015 strongman from fort wayne, indiana...swanigan is known for his relentless rebounding motor & back to the basket power game along with a skillful soft touch from the perimeter with a nba future upside
caleb is 6'8" 275 lbs after losing 75 lbs from his days as a 6'4" 350 lbs middle schooler...at that time he left his family in utah to live with his current guardian roosevelt barnes jr, a former nfl player, who has mentored swanigan's healthier diet & dedicated cardio program
roosevelt barnes jr (also a 4 year player on the purdue basketball team) & cuonzo martin have a strong longtime friendship
swanigan has been offered by virtually every major program in the country including kentucky & local favorite michigan state (which is hedging its bet in the cb sweepstakes via izzo's active recruitment of wisconsin elite 5 henry ellenson)...the only official visit discussed is to surprisingly enough, chicago state, which was the 1st school to offer him back in the day but it has not been scheduled at this time...he is planning on unofficially visiting kentucky for their combine scouting practice on october 10th
dude is a smart guy, by working diligently in the classroom during summer school, swanigan has reclassified from the 2016 to the 2015 class...last season he had a 20 ppg & 12 rpg at homestead hs in fort wayne
caleb played on the usa team in dubai with bay area superstar ivan rabb & shot an unreal 69.6% for the victorious american team...both caleb & ivan have a lot in common from an outside interests (beyond basketball) perspective
swanigan's in homes visits to date include cal, michigan state, kentucky, pittsburgh, ucla, arizona, notre dame, purdue, auburn, new mexico, missouri, north carolina state, michigan & alabama
the key factor in this recruitment will be for cuonzo to secure an official visit from caleb to berkeley...if that happens, anything is possible at that point
diamond in the rough#
the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public university in the world (including the midwest)
Vineyardview;842376396 said:
[FONT=Arial]Arizona also recognizes Caleb Swanigan's enormous talent and Sean Miller is unrelenting in his recruiting effort.
Point Guard U @UofAPointGuardU Caleb Swanigan @Biggs_Swanigan will visit Arizona for the Red Blue game[/FONT]
It is an understatement to say Cuonzo will need to me at the top of his game to convince both Ivan Rabb and Caleb Swanigan to join the Cal Basketball team.
concordtom;842376484 said:
I think he will need to be on top of his game to convince EITHER Rabb OR Swanigan.
Being local, Rabb might appear to be the more likely of the 2, but shocky posted something about Martin having a pre-existing relationship with Swanigan's guardian, a fellow former Illinois athlete. I would think if I were Rabb or Swanigan, I might be interested in partnering up with some top end basketball buddies. That seems to be common with what Kentucky has been doing with their monster classes. And, of course, usual suspects like Arizona and Kentucky are indeed targeting both these guys.
Per my prior email above, I think it would be a pretty tantalizing offer Martin submits to these 2:
2015-16 lineup:
C Swanigan
PF Rabb
SF Domingo
SG Bird
PG Wallace
Bench: quality with SG Mathews, and either of Sampson/Roach/Dorsey, and size with two 7 footers, sr PF Berhens.
Those first 4 names are topflight. Wallace is not at all shabby, with some talk of his draftability, but not yet a pure PG. It will be interesting to see his continued development this year under new coach! If his play at point excels, that would be potential NBA talent at all 5 positions. What more would Rabb and Swanigan be seeking? Double depth at each position, a la Marcus Lee? (oh my god, I just broke a 6 months string without a ML reference!)
Vineyardview;842376396 said:
[FONT=Arial]Arizona also recognizes Caleb Swanigan's enormous talent and Sean Miller is unrelenting in his recruiting effort.
Point Guard U @UofAPointGuardU Caleb Swanigan @Biggs_Swanigan will visit Arizona for the Red Blue game[/FONT]
It is an understatement to say Cuonzo will need to me at the top of his game to convince both Ivan Rabb and Caleb Swanigan to join the Cal Basketball team.
ibelieveNyou;842378437 said:
Does anyone know how many of the current players have played on a championship team? Any level... name the championship?
teknofreek;842378501 said:
Salesian High with Jabari Bird beat Price in 2012 for the CIF Boys Division 4 title.
ibelieveNyou;842378602 said:
So we have Nick Hamilton at Westchester High School winning the 2012-2013 CIF LOS ANGELES CITY DIVISION 1 championship and Jabari Bird with Salesian High School winning Division 4 championship.
Other players? The reason for the question is to find out how many players "know" what it is to play for a championship team. These players, BIRD and HAMILTON bring to the team the emotions and leadership it takes to move forward.
Surely, there are more players - in order to challenge for a championship you must have players who know the feeling and want it bad enough to play outside their comfort zone - players who can encourage other players around them.
STRIVING for a championship begins before the season - it begins mentally!