concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
They could have broken AR by throwing him straight into the fire. At least with GB he was able to sit and learn behind Favre for a while. At that point SF was extremely dysfunctional.concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
Never heard of Strong before reading a few stories during the game, and they didn't recruit him because he was hurt? Were they hoping he would play as a true freshman? Hindsight being what it is, a head scratcher why he wasn't pursued at all. Who was the QB cal took that year instead?concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
Ah this is the BI I know. Things are getting back to normal.Yogidamus said:Good God, you are as ****ing dumb of a homer as you ever wereGMP said:I mean come on. He was not that good. I don't know what Petros was going on about - his arm looked weak to me.concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
Yogidamus said:Good God, you are as ****ing dumb of a homer as you ever wereGMP said:I mean come on. He was not that good. I don't know what Petros was going on about - his arm looked weak to me.concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
Looks like we didn't take a QB in 2018.62bear said:Never heard of Strong before reading a few stories during the game, and they didn't recruit him because he was hurt? Were they hoping he would play as a true freshman? Hindsight being what it is, a head scratcher why he wasn't pursued at all. Who was the QB cal took that year instead?concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
Where's the video of that bomb down the left sideline vs Garber's weak int down the right sideline, played side-by-side?GMP said:concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
I mean come on. He was not that good. I don't know what Petros was going on about - his arm looked weak to me.
concordtom said:Where's the video of that bomb down the left sideline vs Garber's weak int down the right sideline, played side-by-side?GMP said:concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
I mean come on. He was not that good. I don't know what Petros was going on about - his arm looked weak to me.
In the meantime, you can read here about how he was rated the #1 QB in the draft in a recent poll.
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/carson-strong-grew-up-watching-cal
SoCalie said:
BUT, he continues to play him
dimitrig said:SoCalie said:
BUT, he continues to play him
Who else do we got?
SmellinRoses said:
Yep. Watched a lot of games - worst play calling I have ever seen.
CalGrad95 said:
If Garners vs the Modster/McIlwain dumpster fire is the best we can do, then we need a new coaching staff.
I have always agreed with this but I think if we have any young guy who has even challenged Garbers, now might be the time tom give him a shot.sycasey said:CalGrad95 said:
If Garners vs the Modster/McIlwain dumpster fire is the best we can do, then we need a new coaching staff.
Possibly. I'm just saying the problem is not our failure to sit the starting QB.
Strykur said:
I have a lot to say about tonight, will put a thread up in a few hours, stay tuned.
Short of it: this could be turned around, but Wilcox has less than a week to do it.
This article, for whatever it's worth, rates Strong as the 15th best college QB going into the 2021 season. Admittedly, we would all be thrilled to have the 15th best QB in college football, and Cal has only had two QBs in this century who were better than that and no others who were even close.concordtom said:Where's the video of that bomb down the left sideline vs Garber's weak int down the right sideline, played side-by-side?GMP said:concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
I mean come on. He was not that good. I don't know what Petros was going on about - his arm looked weak to me.
In the meantime, you can read here about how he was rated the #1 QB in the draft in a recent poll.
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/carson-strong-grew-up-watching-cal
The good news (for Cal, not for the conference) might be that this average Nevada team is better than five of the teams in the Pac-12 North, of course including the Bears.CalGrad95 said:
4 years at the starting position, no downfield passing game at all. 4.7 y/a won't cut it.
That was a very average Nevada team we just lost to. A better PAC 12 team just loads up to stuff the run, and dares Garbers to beat them with his arm, which he can't do.
Time to see what the backups offer, before this season becomes a rout like 2020.
Yes the underlying thread is Wilcox. He just doesn't seem to have a feel for what he wants in an offense.sycasey said:
Offense went completely brain dead in the last three sequences.
1. After gashing them on runs to get down to the 10, no more handoffs or even play-action. We go backwards and miss the FG.
2. Nevada fails on their possession so we get it back. Try to run again? Suck in the DBs with play action? Nope, deep sideline pass, poorly thrown and picked. DB was never fooled.
3. Now we have it with no time outs and need to move quickly. So of course now it's short passes that don't get out of bounds. No need to tell you this drive failed.
Long passes when we don't need them, short passes when we need long ones, going away from the running game that was working. *** was the plan there? And it's worth noting that I was often asking this with the last OC too.
KoreAmBear said:Yes the underlying thread is Wilcox. He just doesn't seem to have a feel for what he wants in an offense.sycasey said:
Offense went completely brain dead in the last three sequences.
1. After gashing them on runs to get down to the 10, no more handoffs or even play-action. We go backwards and miss the FG.
2. Nevada fails on their possession so we get it back. Try to run again? Suck in the DBs with play action? Nope, deep sideline pass, poorly thrown and picked. DB was never fooled.
3. Now we have it with no time outs and need to move quickly. So of course now it's short passes that don't get out of bounds. No need to tell you this drive failed.
Long passes when we don't need them, short passes when we need long ones, going away from the running game that was working. *** was the plan there? And it's worth noting that I was often asking this with the last OC too.
calumnus said:KoreAmBear said:They can't stop the running back runs so pass, run a QB draw and another slow developing pass, then FGA.sycasey said:
LOL classic
Please make this stop.
When you are running well, at least have a running back in the backfield and fake the run. Empty backfield????
Mussgrave wanted to mix things up to keep them guessing with an empty backfield.TrueBlue42 said:
We're averaging 5.7 yards per rush..and 4.9 per attempt.
calumnus said:01Bear said:
***?!?!? Why a deep pass on first down there? F*ck!
Sideline pass to a WR does not take advantage of the situation.
Play action to suck in the defense, then throw deep to a TE over the middle behind the Safeties
concordtom said:Don't hold your breath.sycasey said:
Well, Nevada gave us another gift by screwing up that sequence. One more chance.
And, there's always the OT board to take out our frustrations on the idiots over there after the game!
Strong has an NFL arm. With NFL receivers, he will be a very good player at that level.Yogidamus said:Good God, you are as ****ing dumb of a homer as you ever wereGMP said:I mean come on. He was not that good. I don't know what Petros was going on about - his arm looked weak to me.concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
Most teams in the league could have had Rodgers. He was fortunate to fall to a team that was able to put him in a position sit a few years before playing regularly.pingpong2 said:They could have broken AR by throwing him straight into the fire. At least with GB he was able to sit and learn behind Favre for a while. At that point SF was extremely dysfunctional.concordtom said:
Which is worse?
A) 49ers could have had Aaron Rodgers Year 1, but passed him over.
B) Cal could have had Vacaville's QB Strong, but passed him over.
GMP said:I have always agreed with this but I think if we have any young guy who has even challenged Garbers, now might be the time tom give him a shot.sycasey said:CalGrad95 said:
If Garners vs the Modster/McIlwain dumpster fire is the best we can do, then we need a new coaching staff.
Possibly. I'm just saying the problem is not our failure to sit the starting QB.
