Observations on 2021 Season

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BearoutEast67
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I wondered what the impact would be of 1) allowing additional eligibility due to last season's COVID-19 impact and 2) blanket approval for transfers from different teams. One product seems to be increased parity among teams. The other - at least for this season - seems to be journeyman players sticking around longer, and likely slowing the development of younger players while doing so. If he survives through mid-season, Wilcox will need to adapt from his slow staffing decisions and slower development of players for his team to start winning in this new world.

One of Wilcox's positive characteristics is his loyalty to players and staff. But this is also his weakness. We need a change at DC and ST coach. Our DC seems slow at play-calling during the game, with calls rarely allowing preemptive aggressive play. We are reactive instead.

ST is a tragic comedy under Ragle. Changing the placekicking holder should have occurred in Week 2. Working in special plays (onside kick, fake punts, 2-pt conversations) should have happened by now.

Positives this season? Hearns, Oladejo, and Iosefa are developing nicely with playing time on D. On O, OL seems to have three solid players at LT (Craig),LG, and C. But the OC needs to provide help on the right side where play is weak. Alternating RBs by play type or drive is not too much to ask. The WR and TEs appear to be running better routes but need to be able to fight for 50-50 balls and to find and sit in open pockets in zones. OC needs to use outlet routes by TEs to help Garbers.

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
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We're bottom dwelling wankers.
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82gradDLSdad
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This will not turn around under Wilcox. Nice guy but he's had his chance.
LunchTime
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BearoutEast67 said:

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
***?

There is absolutely zero chance the stadium was 2/3rds full.

Teams should be required to name tickets sold OR attendance, and not conflate them.

82gradDLSdad
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LunchTime said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
***?

There is absolutely zero chance the stadium was 2/3rds full.

Teams should be required to name tickets sold OR attendance, and not conflate them.




It works sort of like election voting.
BearDown2o15
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LunchTime said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
***?

There is absolutely zero chance the stadium was 2/3rds full.

Teams should be required to name tickets sold OR attendance, and not conflate them.




Teams are permitted to included all season tickets that are sold in the count for attendance….. whether the ticket is used or not
LunchTime
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BearDown2o15 said:

LunchTime said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
***?

There is absolutely zero chance the stadium was 2/3rds full.

Teams should be required to name tickets sold OR attendance, and not conflate them.




Teams are permitted to included all season tickets that are sold in the count for attendance….. whether the ticket is used or not
"Teams should be required to name tickets sold OR attendance, and not conflate them."
GoOskie
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How about Wilcox is demoted to DC and we hire back Dykes as OC. We don't need a HC.
Bobodeluxe
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DrunkOski as figurehead head case coach.
calumnus
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GoOskie said:

How about Wilcox is demoted to DC and we hire back Dykes as OC. We don't need a HC.


No one likes Sonny and his team is 5-0, but maybe Franklin? Definitely has a Cal spirit.
Bobodeluxe
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calumnus said:

GoOskie said:

How about Wilcox is demoted to DC and we hire back Dykes as OC. We don't need a HC.


No one likes Sonny and his team is 5-0, but maybe Franklin? Definitely has a Cal spirit.
Sonny was "forced" to show Franklin the door over his insistence on first-step-back O-line deployment. I loved Franklin. Met the Franklins on the Telegraph Ave Holiday Craft Show. A true Berkeley spirit.

Easy to see why so many on this site hated him.
BubbaBear
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Jake Spavital has my vote as HC. Musgrave as OC remains a total headscratcher. Was sure Garbers had turned the corner in 2019. Then Musgrave, 2020 and 2021, and Cheez-It bowl dj vu. Has hiring a 55 year old who had not coached college football in 18 years as OC ever worked? Who were the other candidates?
71Bear
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BubbaBear said:

Jake Spavital has my vote as HC. Musgrave as OC remains a total headscratcher. Was sure Garbers had turned the corner in 2019. Then Musgrave, 2020 and 2021, and Cheez-It bowl dj vu. Has hiring a 55 year old who had not coached college football in 18 years as OC ever worked? Who were the other candidates?
Spavital????

What are his credentials?

As a HC at Texas State, he has done nothing. Here is his 2021 record to date:

Baylor - L 20-29
Florida International - W 23-17 (OT)
Incarnate Word - L 34-42
Eastern Michigan - L 21-59

That looks like Sonny Dykes redux.

If Cal were to be looking for a new coach, this guy has to be near the bottom of list…..
calumnus
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Bobodeluxe said:

calumnus said:

GoOskie said:

How about Wilcox is demoted to DC and we hire back Dykes as OC. We don't need a HC.


No one likes Sonny and his team is 5-0, but maybe Franklin? Definitely has a Cal spirit.
Sonny was "forced" to show Franklin the door over his insistence on first-step-back O-line deployment. I loved Franklin. Met the Franklins on the Telegraph Ave Holiday Craft Show. A true Berkeley spirit.

Easy to see why so many on this site hated him.


I was living in Downtown Berkeley at the same time he was and would run into him in the restaurants, bars, cafe's and farmers markets regularly. Great guy. His podcast is enjoyable.

I do think that, especially in 2013 with the cratered defense, pushing tempo was a huge mistake. It is the same mistake Wyking Jones made in basketball with the same result. While tempo can increase your offensive efficiency, if your offensive ffecuency does not exceed your defensive efficiency, more possessions will lead to a worse result. Add to the fact that we just did not have bodies on defense, especially at DB, and we just needed to keep the defense off the field. We still would have list more games than we won, but we would have won a few that we lost.

However, Franklin is a very smart guy and he now sees the value of varying tempo (which can be a weapon in itself, keeping the defense off balance, drawing offsides penalties, stopping the defense from getting a jump).

The only offensive coordinators I liked as much were Mooch and Cortez. I did not think Spavital was as good. I really thought Mouse Davis could have been great for us, but he needed to be more flexible early, such as figuring out how to incorporate a great TE like David Lewis into his offense, as some later versions of the Run and Shoot have.

As a side note, while Hawaii has been relatively successful with the Run and Shoot over the years, I have always thought they were the worst school to adopt it. Hawaii's comparative advantage is big athletic Polynesian kids. If anyone should be running smash mouth schemes with tight ends, it is Hawaii. Instead they are highly dependent on recruiting lots of small, quick receivers from the mainland.
Golden One
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BearoutEast67 said:

I wondered what the impact would be of 1) allowing additional eligibility due to last season's COVID-19 impact and 2) blanket approval for transfers from different teams. One product seems to be increased parity among teams. The other - at least for this season - seems to be journeyman players sticking around longer, and likely slowing the development of younger players while doing so. If he survives through mid-season, Wilcox will need to adapt from his slow staffing decisions and slower development of players for his team to start winning in this new world.

One of Wilcox's positive characteristics is his loyalty to players and staff. But this is also his weakness. We need a change at DC and ST coach. Our DC seems slow at play-calling during the game, with calls rarely allowing preemptive aggressive play. We are reactive instead.

ST is a tragic comedy under Ragle. Changing the placekicking holder should have occurred in Week 2. Working in special plays (onside kick, fake punts, 2-pt conversations) should have happened by now.

Positives this season? Hearns, Oladejo, and Iosefa are developing nicely with playing time on D. On O, OL seems to have three solid players at LT (Craig),LG, and C. But the OC needs to provide help on the right side where play is weak. Alternating RBs by play type or drive is not too much to ask. The WR and TEs appear to be running better routes but need to be able to fight for 50-50 balls and to find and sit in open pockets in zones. OC needs to use outlet routes by TEs to help Garbers.

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
No way there were 40,000 fans at the WSU game. That may have been the paid attendance, but there were no more than 30,000 actual butts in the seats. The stadium was clearly less than half full.

And regarding the OL, it's not obvious to me that we have ANY talent at any of the positions. Garbers has virtually no time to throw on every passing play. No QB could be successful under the conditions he faces.
Golden One
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71Bear said:

BubbaBear said:

Jake Spavital has my vote as HC. Musgrave as OC remains a total headscratcher. Was sure Garbers had turned the corner in 2019. Then Musgrave, 2020 and 2021, and Cheez-It bowl dj vu. Has hiring a 55 year old who had not coached college football in 18 years as OC ever worked? Who were the other candidates?
Spavital????

What are his credentials?

As a HC at Texas State, he has done nothing. Here is his 2021 record to date:

Baylor - L 20-29
Florida International - W 23-17 (OT)
Incarnate Word - L 34-42
Eastern Michigan - L 21-59

That looks like Sonny Dykes redux.

If Cal were to be looking for a new coach, this guy has to be near the bottom of list…..
Yeah, his overall record at Texas State is 6-22.
calumnus
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Golden One said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I wondered what the impact would be of 1) allowing additional eligibility due to last season's COVID-19 impact and 2) blanket approval for transfers from different teams. One product seems to be increased parity among teams. The other - at least for this season - seems to be journeyman players sticking around longer, and likely slowing the development of younger players while doing so. If he survives through mid-season, Wilcox will need to adapt from his slow staffing decisions and slower development of players for his team to start winning in this new world.

One of Wilcox's positive characteristics is his loyalty to players and staff. But this is also his weakness. We need a change at DC and ST coach. Our DC seems slow at play-calling during the game, with calls rarely allowing preemptive aggressive play. We are reactive instead.

ST is a tragic comedy under Ragle. Changing the placekicking holder should have occurred in Week 2. Working in special plays (onside kick, fake punts, 2-pt conversations) should have happened by now.

Positives this season? Hearns, Oladejo, and Iosefa are developing nicely with playing time on D. On O, OL seems to have three solid players at LT (Craig),LG, and C. But the OC needs to provide help on the right side where play is weak. Alternating RBs by play type or drive is not too much to ask. The WR and TEs appear to be running better routes but need to be able to fight for 50-50 balls and to find and sit in open pockets in zones. OC needs to use outlet routes by TEs to help Garbers.

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
No way there were 40,000 fans at the WSU game. That may have been the paid attendance, but there were no more than 30,000 actual butts in the seats. The stadium was clearly less than half full.

And regarding the OL, it's not obvious to me that we have ANY talent at any of the positions. Garbers has virtually no time to throw on every passing play. No QB could be successful under the conditions he faces.


So why do we have him sit in the pocket and throw long sideline patterns (always)? Musgrave seems to have reverted to his last year/earlier strategy.

We need more outside zone running and then play action to draw the defense away from rushing straight up the middle, or if we do run play action on a run up the middle, Garbers needs to then bootleg outside the pocket with a pass or run option.

The bottom line is we cannot run plays that assume we have a good pass blocking line, because we don't, and then point the finger at them when those plays fail.

The OC needs to be able to assess what he has to work with and put the players in their best position to succeed. Garbers as a pocket passer throwing long on the same pattern every time behind this OL is the opposite of that.
BubbaBear
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71 Bear: Read Spav's bio. Not bad and with his Texas St record you could get him on the cheap. What could go wrong? We could be 2-7 over the past 9 games? Surprise here but Cal is not Alabama. You have to find the diamond in the rough. But as Cal fans we are fooled by shiny, new objects we reach/overpay for: Tedford, Dykes and, I pray I am wrong, Wilcox. Buy low.
Golden One
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calumnus said:

Golden One said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I wondered what the impact would be of 1) allowing additional eligibility due to last season's COVID-19 impact and 2) blanket approval for transfers from different teams. One product seems to be increased parity among teams. The other - at least for this season - seems to be journeyman players sticking around longer, and likely slowing the development of younger players while doing so. If he survives through mid-season, Wilcox will need to adapt from his slow staffing decisions and slower development of players for his team to start winning in this new world.

One of Wilcox's positive characteristics is his loyalty to players and staff. But this is also his weakness. We need a change at DC and ST coach. Our DC seems slow at play-calling during the game, with calls rarely allowing preemptive aggressive play. We are reactive instead.

ST is a tragic comedy under Ragle. Changing the placekicking holder should have occurred in Week 2. Working in special plays (onside kick, fake punts, 2-pt conversations) should have happened by now.

Positives this season? Hearns, Oladejo, and Iosefa are developing nicely with playing time on D. On O, OL seems to have three solid players at LT (Craig),LG, and C. But the OC needs to provide help on the right side where play is weak. Alternating RBs by play type or drive is not too much to ask. The WR and TEs appear to be running better routes but need to be able to fight for 50-50 balls and to find and sit in open pockets in zones. OC needs to use outlet routes by TEs to help Garbers.

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
No way there were 40,000 fans at the WSU game. That may have been the paid attendance, but there were no more than 30,000 actual butts in the seats. The stadium was clearly less than half full.

And regarding the OL, it's not obvious to me that we have ANY talent at any of the positions. Garbers has virtually no time to throw on every passing play. No QB could be successful under the conditions he faces.


So why do we have him sit in the pocket and throw long sideline patterns (always)? Musgrave seems to have reverted to his last year/earlier strategy.

We need more outside zone running and then play action to draw the defense away from rushing straight up the middle, or if we do run play action on a run up the middle, Garbers needs to then bootleg outside the pocket with a pass or run option.

The bottom line is we cannot run plays that assume we have a good pass blocking line, because we don't, and then point the finger at them when those plays fail.

The OC needs to be able to assess what he has to work with and put the players in their best position to succeed. Garbers as a pocket passer throwing long on the same pattern every time behind this OL is the opposite of that.
I completely agree.
Dgoldnbaer
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I've been attending games since 1963 and this past Saturday was really sad. At middle of 1st qtr. Max butts in seats was no more than 33,000 and more important, max # in seats at end of 3rd qtr. Was no more than 20,000. All of this occurring on a beautiful, gorgeous sunny day - perfect football weather!! Here's hoping the chancellor is aware of this & here's hoping such matters!!
Blueblood
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LunchTime said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
***?

There is absolutely zero chance the stadium was 2/3rds full.

Teams should be required to name tickets sold OR attendance, and not conflate them.


Fat chance. The world just ain'tgonna do what do you want.....get used to it.
LunchTime
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Blueblood said:

LunchTime said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
***?

There is absolutely zero chance the stadium was 2/3rds full.

Teams should be required to name tickets sold OR attendance, and not conflate them.


Fat chance. The world just ain'tgonna do what do you want.....get used to it.
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wifeisafurd
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BearoutEast67 said:

I wondered what the impact would be of 1) allowing additional eligibility due to last season's COVID-19 impact and 2) blanket approval for transfers from different teams. One product seems to be increased parity among teams. The other - at least for this season - seems to be journeyman players sticking around longer, and likely slowing the development of younger players while doing so. If he survives through mid-season, Wilcox will need to adapt from his slow staffing decisions and slower development of players for his team to start winning in this new world.

One of Wilcox's positive characteristics is his loyalty to players and staff. But this is also his weakness. We need a change at DC and ST coach. Our DC seems slow at play-calling during the game, with calls rarely allowing preemptive aggressive play. We are reactive instead.

ST is a tragic comedy under Ragle. Changing the placekicking holder should have occurred in Week 2. Working in special plays (onside kick, fake punts, 2-pt conversations) should have happened by now.

Positives this season? Hearns, Oladejo, and Iosefa are developing nicely with playing time on D. On O, OL seems to have three solid players at LT (Craig),LG, and C. But the OC needs to provide help on the right side where play is weak. Alternating RBs by play type or drive is not too much to ask. The WR and TEs appear to be running better routes but need to be able to fight for 50-50 balls and to find and sit in open pockets in zones. OC needs to use outlet routes by TEs to help Garbers.

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
Whoever the head coach is going forward (Wilcox or otherwise) needs to make an honest assessment of existing talent and then take a hard look at the transfer portal. The policy of not taking transfers or moving non-productive players out, while kindler and gentler, is seemingly an unrealistic luxury in today's college football environment.
71Bear
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wifeisafurd said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I wondered what the impact would be of 1) allowing additional eligibility due to last season's COVID-19 impact and 2) blanket approval for transfers from different teams. One product seems to be increased parity among teams. The other - at least for this season - seems to be journeyman players sticking around longer, and likely slowing the development of younger players while doing so. If he survives through mid-season, Wilcox will need to adapt from his slow staffing decisions and slower development of players for his team to start winning in this new world.

One of Wilcox's positive characteristics is his loyalty to players and staff. But this is also his weakness. We need a change at DC and ST coach. Our DC seems slow at play-calling during the game, with calls rarely allowing preemptive aggressive play. We are reactive instead.

ST is a tragic comedy under Ragle. Changing the placekicking holder should have occurred in Week 2. Working in special plays (onside kick, fake punts, 2-pt conversations) should have happened by now.

Positives this season? Hearns, Oladejo, and Iosefa are developing nicely with playing time on D. On O, OL seems to have three solid players at LT (Craig),LG, and C. But the OC needs to provide help on the right side where play is weak. Alternating RBs by play type or drive is not too much to ask. The WR and TEs appear to be running better routes but need to be able to fight for 50-50 balls and to find and sit in open pockets in zones. OC needs to use outlet routes by TEs to help Garbers.

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
Whoever the head coach is going forward (Wilcox or otherwise) needs to make an honest assessment of existing talent and then take a hard look at the transfer portal. The policy of not taking transfers or moving non-productive players out, while kindler and gentler, is seemingly an unrealistic luxury in today's college football environment.
Well said, WIAF…


Blueblood
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LunchTime said:

Blueblood said:

LunchTime said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I was pleased to see 40k fans at the game!
***?

There is absolutely zero chance the stadium was 2/3rds full.

Teams should be required to name tickets sold OR attendance, and not conflate them.


Fat chance. The world just ain'tgonna do what do you want.....get used to it.
Post a response to these, too. Do what I say, you child.

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Mmmmm....it's lunchtime!


I'm worrying you or something? You're afraid that I might just do it? Don't worry as a child I tire easily.....
yawn......
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