not trying to bend the narrative here, but maybe we make it a clean sweep fron SDSU and go jd wicker for AD and adela de la torre for Chancellor
embarrassing that we would have to do that, but maybe it's time to swallow our pride and go for results
why is the mercury news & not the bear insider writing this editorial demanding an investigation?Shocky1 said:
econ, the 78 year old chancellor christ is receiving a lotta negative feedback re: the con artist but her time in berkeley is limited, assistant vice chancellor dan mogulof in charge of campus legal counsel issues could be the person to take down the con artist but his inexplicable defense of knowlton's public apology to the swimming families right after the mckeever termination & his abject failure to require the law firm of munger, tolles & olson to investigate as part of the mckeever report if senior administration of the cal athletic department wuz aware of any wrongdoing/engaged in a cover up suggests that the fix is in at least for right now in berkeley
once again donating to the cal athletic department (other than buying football tickets) is kinda like burning ur money in the dumpster behind haas
the sound of worthless bureaucrats#
cal's 2024 junior day update (march 4th, 2023): mark schroller's teammate treyvon tolmaire gonna be in berkeley tooShocky1 said:Back in action! First session back with @AllegianceOL. Truly the best in the business. @AllegianceArch @ChrisWardOL @KodyAfusia @missionfootball pic.twitter.com/Wf8Ba8dvhP
— Mark Schroller (@MarkSchroller06) January 16, 2023
cal's monster offensive line recruting update:
6'6" 285 lbs 83' wingspan offensive tackle mark schroller from mission viejo high school is gonna attend cal's 2024 junior day on saturday march 4th
mark is not a dumb azz, he got a 4.4 gpa
schroller got actionable offers nationwide but this is most likely gonna be a ucla (dad karl played for the bruins just like brayden rohme's dad michael back in the day) or stanford (which may not win single football game during the 2023 season) recruiting battle for them california golden bears
the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public (that means EVERYBODY is welcomed, don't be an entitled dumb azz) university in the world (that means yoga studios on every continent)
Coaches!!! This kid needs to be on EVERY 2024 top CB board https://t.co/Luqf7XIpC4
— Premium Sports (@premiumsportsla) January 16, 2023
@raynemayojr C/O 2024. 6'3, 285 OG. 3.67gpa. Valley Christian San Jose CA. Yes, there's the transfer portal but also beasts like him needing an opp @VinceAmey @CoachTuitele @TevitaLose @coachsapolu @CoachDSanders@CoachDKeller @LoniFangupo @CoachManningWOUhttps://t.co/dmYVurcoQ4 pic.twitter.com/olev06ivm3
— VEE Sports (@VEE_Sports) February 5, 2023
Had a great time at CAL for the “BigGame”rivalry and battle for the axe. Thank you @CalRecruiting for the invite !!!. @BenjiPalu_Cal @MWCherrington @CoachToler @Coach_Sooto @AllenBrown_4 @CoachTreW @CoachTB02 @CoachPerrone @BrandonHuffman @VEE_Sports @_Todd_Olson @browning_coach pic.twitter.com/8FOoO9gjJe
— raynemayojr (@raynemayojr) November 20, 2022
Shocky1 said:why is the mercury news & not the bear insider writing this editorial demanding an investigation?Shocky1 said:
econ, the 78 year old chancellor christ is receiving a lotta negative feedback re: the con artist but her time in berkeley is limited, assistant vice chancellor dan mogulof in charge of campus legal counsel issues could be the person to take down the con artist but his inexplicable defense of knowlton's public apology to the swimming families right after the mckeever termination & his abject failure to require the law firm of munger, tolles & olson to investigate as part of the mckeever report if senior administration of the cal athletic department wuz aware of any wrongdoing/engaged in a cover up suggests that the fix is in at least for right now in berkeley
once again donating to the cal athletic department (other than buying football tickets) is kinda like burning ur money in the dumpster behind haas
the sound of worthless bureaucrats#
https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/02/07/editorial-did-cals-athletic-department-enable-mckeever-bullying/amp/
dan mogulof (dmogulof@berkeley.edu) is at best just another worthless berkeley bureaucrat & at worst a corrupt obstructionist who is tryna hide the truth re: the con artist & jennifer simon-o'neil
this is not gonna end well, the wasted athletic department dollars on defending & realistically losing (knowlton has already publicly apologized to the families) a multitude of swimming family lawsuits is gonna be financially staggering
Shocky1 said:
monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation
Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.
It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?
Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.
You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.
Bill
____________________________________________________________________________________
Bill,
Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.
Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.
Best
Dan
Blessed to receive an offer from Cal!#pac12 #GoBears pic.twitter.com/5Sfouck4rX
— Jayce Mitchell⚡️ (@Jaycemitxh2) February 22, 2023
𝒉𝒐𝒎𝒆 sweet 𝒉𝒐𝒎𝒆 🏠#ProBears pic.twitter.com/9GgfcWOnOz
— Cal Football (@CalFootball) February 22, 2023
*intercom noises* There is a Wide Reciever named Chad lost at the ticket counter, could their head coach or guardian please pick up Chad at the ticket counter, thank you. https://t.co/R7wVzMzh8m
— Sickos Committee (@SickosCommittee) February 23, 2023
Let's go!! Thank You!!@CalFootball @MWCherrington#RideWithRancho pic.twitter.com/cRdAvCWQwu
— Kyren Condoll (@KCondoll) October 27, 2022
yawn, back at ya ... you do know you don't have to follow his theadAunBear89 said:
A few things you can be sure of when you see a monster thread has a couple dozen new posts:
- many of them will be Shocks posts
- many of those will have nothing to do with the topic of the thread (but would be entirely appropriate in other threads not started by shocks)
- all of shocks posts will be long and full of incomprehensible in jokes or pictures of women.
Yawn
I find the Monster Thread very amusing and have no issue with any of the above.Oakbear said:yawn, back at ya ... you do know you don't have to follow his theadAunBear89 said:
A few things you can be sure of when you see a monster thread has a couple dozen new posts:
- many of them will be Shocks posts
- many of those will have nothing to do with the topic of the thread (but would be entirely appropriate in other threads not started by shocks)
- all of shocks posts will be long and full of incomprehensible in jokes or pictures of women.
Yawn
https://instagr.am/p/BixRSjoh6bSShocky1 said:Quote:Best thing I've seen at the World Cup so far pic.twitter.com/wTB6SyzPLI
— Gecko🦋❤ (@AcevenGecko) December 9, 2022
right now the bears got 27 scholly departures (with more on the way):
daniel scott, safety...out of eligibility
odua isibor, edge defender...out of eligiblity
jamieson sheahan, punter...out of eligilbity
braxton croteau, outside linebacker...medical retirement
ryan lange, guard...football retirement
kyle smith, inside linebacker...portal as grad transfer
ryan puskas, inside linebacker...portal as grad transfer
orin patu, edge defender...grad transfer to arizona
patrick histake, edge defender...portal to hawaii...no berkeley degree
henry ikahihifo, outside linebacker...portal to nevada...no berkeley degree
femi oladejo, linebacker...portal to ucla...no berkeley degree
trey paster, linebacker...portal as grad transfer
ben coleman, guard...grad transfer to asu
spencer lovell, guard...grad transfer to kansas
nick alftin, tight end...portal as grad transfer
keleki latu, tight end...portal to nevada...no berkeley degree
jermaine terry, tight end...portal to oregon state...no berkeley degree
j michael sturdivant...portal to ucla...no berkeley degree
ashton hayes, running back...portal to nevada...no berkeley degree
chris street, running back...portal...no berkeley degree
damien moore, running back...portal to fresno state...no berkeley degree
decarlos brooks, running back...grad transfer portal to asu
slater zellers, longsnapper...grad transfer to asu
dario longhetto, kicker...grad transfer to asu
jack plummer, quarterback...grad transfer to louisville
kai milner, quarterback...portal to northern arizona...no berkeley degree
zach johnson, quarterback...portal as grad transfer— Out Of Context Football (@nocontextfooty) December 24, 2022
That assertion seems illogical. You get unofficial notice that an employee is allegedly engaging in improper or illegal conduct and the university wouldn't start looking into it? That seems crazy because it would work to enable harm against students and subject the university to financial liability. The more responsible course of action would be to take some measures whenever any allegation is made regardless of form. Maybe it isn't correct to always call those actions 'investigations' but some 'investigatory' action should always follow any report.calumnus said:Shocky1 said:
monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation
Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.
It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?
Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.
You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.
Bill
____________________________________________________________________________________
Bill,
Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.
Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.
Best
Dan
Pretty sure that they do not need an "on the record complaint" and that most of the UC and California state compliance departments can initiate investigations based on an anonymous complaints or just evidence of possible violations from the Munger report.
Also, It was Dan Mogulof who announced in a press release the investigation into Cuonzo Martin's handling of the complaint against Hufnagel on March 16, 2016, just before the NCAA Tournament. That would very much seem to contradict his assertions here.
tequila4kapp said:That assertion seems illogical. You get unofficial notice that an employee is allegedly engaging in improper or illegal conduct and the university wouldn't start looking into it? That seems crazy because it would work to enable harm against students and subject the university to financial liability. The more responsible course of action would be to take some measures whenever any allegation is made regardless of form. Maybe it isn't correct to always call those actions 'investigations' but some 'investigatory' action should always follow any report.calumnus said:Shocky1 said:
monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation
Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.
It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?
Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.
You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.
Bill
____________________________________________________________________________________
Bill,
Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.
Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.
Best
Dan
Pretty sure that they do not need an "on the record complaint" and that most of the UC and California state compliance departments can initiate investigations based on an anonymous complaints or just evidence of possible violations from the Munger report.
Also, It was Dan Mogulof who announced in a press release the investigation into Cuonzo Martin's handling of the complaint against Hufnagel on March 16, 2016, just before the NCAA Tournament. That would very much seem to contradict his assertions here.
https://instagr.am/p/CjYzsYQgNHYSBGold said:
It's too bad about Aiden Lee. I was at the spring practice where Plummer threw a terrible pass that left him out to dry and ended up being the injury that knocked him out all last year. He was having a great camp up until then. That one terrible pass in practice probably results in a medical retirement
Great seeing you again coach! https://t.co/JpvR3TuhmI
— Trond Grizzell (@TrondGrizzell) October 5, 2022
can the con artist totally destroy the magic of cal basketball???Shocky1 said:https://instagr.am/p/Cm4nv1MP6TgShocky1 said:
this is a sorta friendly message/tutorial to all the fellow dumb azzs that wuz in haas/our palace yesterday evening for the bears epic victory
watch both of these videos carefully & take notes like u wuz at wheeler hall, this is how u ******* storm the floor, ok?
u don't send a 1 person broken down sorry azz fearless storm the floor "team" out there, got it?
next time, do better, got it?#
conclusive photographic proof from taylor re: her dumb azz dad's failed 1 person stormin' the floor escapades after shaking hands with lars ("sprechen sie deutsch?") & in his last fleeting moments of freedom before being encircled by a 17 yellow jacketed armed security force that reports to fuhrer knowlton
but more importantly check out the faces in the crowd:
is that my partner in monstrous crimes hoop dreams clapping by the blue railings?
joel brown is still in shock thinking "that's my guy but he's definitely crazy as ****"
devin askew is smirking "if he calls me carrot top, he's done"
all the cal coaches (except one) just gonna ignore the monster, fun is not part of the deal
the curvy brunette yoga female in the 3rd row in the light blue puffer jacket is wondering if she can go to nooner modern yoga with me...her friend to the right with one lulu lemon leg dragged over the seat in front of her thinks the shockster should just be walked to his car, yeah she's absolutely sure
the lady with blue cal jacket in the 3rd row is photographing the monster for unknown reasons
my brothers from other mothers in the 7th row r laughing like this is kinda like marshawn driving the golf cart around or something
the lady wearing a black facemask on the far left in the 4th row is not amused by such childish behavior while the 2 females friends above her in the 6th row are celebrating like they just saw the loch ness monster
yeah its gonna take more than a cancellation to kill my vibe, forevah forevah
r u there?
the magic of cal basketball (cal's monster class)#
Shocky1 said:
monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation
Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.
It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?
Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.
You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.
Bill
____________________________________________________________________________________
Bill,
Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.
Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.
Best
Dan
GMP said:Shocky1 said:
monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation
Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.
It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?
Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.
You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.
Bill
____________________________________________________________________________________
Bill,
Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.
Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.
Best
Dan
"...the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated."
Did anyone else find this statement odd? Is that the law? Did Moguloff misspeak? Am I misunderstanding?
I cannot remember the details but a few years back Moduloff made public statements regarding an incident - maybe something around Sather Gate - that I really questioned the veracity of. These comments add to the mix. I appreciate Shocky saying he's a good dude but...GMP said:Shocky1 said:
monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation
Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.
It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?
Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.
You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.
Bill
____________________________________________________________________________________
Bill,
Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.
Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.
Best
Dan
"...the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated."
Did anyone else find this statement odd? Is that the law? Did Moguloff misspeak? Am I misunderstanding?
Is the Munger report the recent report about McKeever or something different?calumnus said:GMP said:Shocky1 said:
monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation
Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.
It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?
Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.
You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.
Bill
____________________________________________________________________________________
Bill,
Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.
Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.
Best
Dan
"...the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated."
Did anyone else find this statement odd? Is that the law? Did Moguloff misspeak? Am I misunderstanding?
"While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met."
The way I read it he is saying that the fact they commented on the Munger report means there was no finding that policy was violated and that there is no investigation. This despite the fact that report specifically says they were not investigating anyone other than McKeever and tgere being multiple redacted sections and clear possible violations of university protocols and even State and Federal law. It reminds me of Barr and Trump claiming the Mueller report was a "complete exoneration."
Moreover, we know that Mogulof released a press statement, the day before we left for the NCAA Tournament, that Cuonzo Martin was being investigated for violating university protocol. Thus, his statement that the law does not permit him to comment on an investigation is patently false, unless he broke the law then or the law changed since then.
Incredible @WMPhoenixOpen story from @MaxHoma23. 😂
— Caddie Network (@CaddieNetwork) February 24, 2023
(🎥: @BussinWTB) pic.twitter.com/BGco1AAZCj
belay brummell, 6'2" 190 lbs, quarterback, wheaton academy warriors (chicago, 3.88 gpa, adopted from ethiopia at age 5)Shocky1 said:mateen bhaghani, 5'11" 145 lbs, kicker, del norte nighthawks (san diego)Shocky1 said:
2023 california golden bears 6 preferred walk ons:
rj stephens, 6'2" 250 lbs, defensive line, sacred heart fightin' irishHad a great visit @CalFootball ! Thank you @browning_coach (and Happy Birthday) along with all the other coaches and staff for an amazing time! #Monstar @BenjiPalu_Cal @BenjaminGaus @MWCherrington pic.twitter.com/16cegwYSeI
— 🌟MONSTAR🌟 (@rj_stephens_) January 29, 2023
brady weingart, 6'3" 205 lbs, quarterback, redwood giants (transferred from the stinson beach dumb azz shockys)Sunday morning work. @Get__Recruited Thanks for the hands @MattGreco20 @JR_Bosch33 @Drew_Ramos5 @CooperHaswell pic.twitter.com/b9p1x0foOA
— brady weingart (@WeingartBrady) May 2, 2022
wesley brown, 6'4" 215 lbs, longsnapper, san mateo fightin' benjisThank you to @coachTcsm, @trenchxchief, and @CoachDovenberg for my time at College of San Mateo. That being said I am blessed to announce my commitment to @CalFootball pic.twitter.com/DjRWfp1NzL
— Wesley Brown (@Wesleyshb) January 27, 2023
tyler murphy, 6'4" 275 lbs, offensive guard, acalanes donsHad a great time competing at @CalFootball camp this past weekend. Great advice along with a solid workout. Appreciate the coaching from @Booof38 @Angus_McClure @themikesaffell @Coach_Nady pic.twitter.com/PzjAYbyfWk
— Tyler Murphy (@TylerMurphy_77) June 9, 2022
50 year decisions (and friendships)#
the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public university in the world (including its territories such as ibiza & so forth)✅ Signed
— Kohl's Kicking Camps (@KohlsKicking) February 2, 2023
Mateen Bhaghani, 5-star kicker in the #KohlsKicking Class of 2023, has officially signed with the University of California.
🎥 Film & Eval: https://t.co/O4mNsrbqlG pic.twitter.com/nW9BgdSAhA