cal's monster offensive line

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not trying to bend the narrative here, but maybe we make it a clean sweep fron SDSU and go jd wicker for AD and adela de la torre for Chancellor

embarrassing that we would have to do that, but maybe it's time to swallow our pride and go for results
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fun joel dahmen fact: binged net flix's full swing series last nite, they should've mentioned joel has passed on playing out of the upscale north scottsdale clubs like silverleaf & whisper rock with dozens of other pga pros like max, rahmbo etc. in order to stay at the modest mesa country club (where he routinely plays with members) because they were were "loyal" to him when he needed a place to practice back in the day
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econ, the 78 year old chancellor christ is receiving a lotta negative feedback re: the con artist but her time in berkeley is limited, assistant vice chancellor dan mogulof in charge of campus legal counsel issues could be the person to take down the con artist but his inexplicable defense of knowlton's public apology to the swimming families right after the mckeever termination & his abject failure to require the law firm of munger, tolles & olson to investigate as part of the mckeever report if senior administration of the cal athletic department wuz aware of any wrongdoing/engaged in a cover up suggests that the fix is in at least for right now in berkeley

once again donating to the cal athletic department (other than buying football tickets) is kinda like burning ur money in the dumpster behind haas

the sound of worthless bureaucrats#
why is the mercury news & not the bear insider writing this editorial demanding an investigation?
https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/02/07/editorial-did-cals-athletic-department-enable-mckeever-bullying/amp/

dan mogulof (dmogulof@berkeley.edu) is at best just another worthless berkeley bureaucrat & at worst a corrupt obstructionist who is tryna hide the truth re: the con artist & jennifer simon-o'neil

this is not gonna end well, the wasted athletic department dollars on defending & realistically losing (knowlton has already publicly apologized to the families) a multitude of swimming family lawsuits is gonna be financially staggering
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Shocky1 said:


cal's monster offensive line recruting update:

6'6" 285 lbs 83' wingspan offensive tackle mark schroller from mission viejo high school is gonna attend cal's 2024 junior day on saturday march 4th

mark is not a dumb azz, he got a 4.4 gpa

schroller got actionable offers nationwide but this is most likely gonna be a ucla (dad karl played for the bruins just like brayden rohme's dad michael back in the day) or stanford (which may not win single football game during the 2023 season) recruiting battle for them california golden bears

the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public (that means EVERYBODY is welcomed, don't be an entitled dumb azz) university in the world (that means yoga studios on every continent)
cal's 2024 junior day update (march 4th, 2023): mark schroller's teammate treyvon tolmaire gonna be in berkeley too


6' 175 lbs 3.6 gpa athletic corner back#
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cal's monster offensive line update:

6'3" 285 lbs offensive guard rayne mayo jr from valley christian high school (dad is the head football coach) is gonna be making the short drive from san jose to berkeley for cal's 2024 junior day on march 4th

stood next to the good looking fam on the field pregame prior to the stanford big game watching the o-line warm ups, yeah it would probably logistically work with the mayo clan to do friday night light's in san jose & then support jr on saturdays in person in berkeley in the future

rayne is not a dumb azz, he got a 3.67 gpa


the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public university in the world (including silicon valley)
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Shocky1 said:

Shocky1 said:



econ, the 78 year old chancellor christ is receiving a lotta negative feedback re: the con artist but her time in berkeley is limited, assistant vice chancellor dan mogulof in charge of campus legal counsel issues could be the person to take down the con artist but his inexplicable defense of knowlton's public apology to the swimming families right after the mckeever termination & his abject failure to require the law firm of munger, tolles & olson to investigate as part of the mckeever report if senior administration of the cal athletic department wuz aware of any wrongdoing/engaged in a cover up suggests that the fix is in at least for right now in berkeley

once again donating to the cal athletic department (other than buying football tickets) is kinda like burning ur money in the dumpster behind haas

the sound of worthless bureaucrats#
why is the mercury news & not the bear insider writing this editorial demanding an investigation?
https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/02/07/editorial-did-cals-athletic-department-enable-mckeever-bullying/amp/

dan mogulof (dmogulof@berkeley.edu) is at best just another worthless berkeley bureaucrat & at worst a corrupt obstructionist who is tryna hide the truth re: the con artist & jennifer simon-o'neil

this is not gonna end well, the wasted athletic department dollars on defending & realistically losing (knowlton has already publicly apologized to the families) a multitude of swimming family lawsuits is gonna be financially staggering

I hope pressure continues to build on Christ to do something.
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Did you guys see that a cross country runner at a Florida college committed suicide after 2 years of being bullied, body shamed and ultimately cut from the team? RIP and peace to her poor family. Thank God none of our girls went through with it.
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monster mailbag: the following is the just received email response from dan mogulof reprinted in its entirety

Bill,

Because of laws protecting personnel issues and privacy I cannot comment on a particular case, issue or set of allegations. Generally speaking, I can tell you that the university evaluates all allegations of policy violations that are presented to the university by on-the-record complainants, as opposed to allegations presented anonymously to media. The university then investigates all allegations which, if proved to be true, would represent a violation of policy.

Best

Dan
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monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation

Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.

It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?

Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.

You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.

Bill
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Bill,

Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.

Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.

Best

Dan
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"Jim Knowlton felt strongly that an apology was needed for conduct described in the report."
-Dan Mogulof, Assistant Vice Chancellor (reports to the Chancellor not the Athletic Department)
February 2nd, 2023

"Jim Knowlton, why he is apologizing to athletes when he knew how Teri coached the entire time he was there is beyond me. It makes no sense."
-Thomas Newkirk, Legal Counsel for Teri McKeever
February 3, 2023

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i, william sherlock schulz, based upon today's email conversation & a couple of unsolicited texts/emails of those who have worked directly with him in the past & respect his ability to do the right thing am offering a formal apology to dan mogulof for my earlier dumb azz snarky name calling...shocky is in time out, he's a bad boy

mogulof reports directly to the chancellor, he is the best situated person on planet earth to hold the con artist accountable for his actions prior to his employment contract's termination date in 2029

we will await the inevitable swimming families lawsuits & allegations against james arthur knowlton & jennifer simon-o'neil along with the mckeever employment practices lawsuit against the university, then an investigation will commence & **** will get real

full transparency note: the above apology has not been reviewed by daughter shay who is a 1st year at denver law & does not in any way restrict my ability to embarazz myself further at modern yoga with t-rex failed handstands

shocky's yoga mat is cobalt blue#
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Shocky1 said:

monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation

Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.

It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?

Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.

You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.

Bill
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Bill,

Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.

Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.

Best

Dan


Pretty sure that they do not need an "on the record complaint" and that most of the UC and California state compliance departments can initiate investigations based on an anonymous complaints or just evidence of possible violations from the Munger report.

Also, It was Dan Mogulof who announced in a press release the investigation into Cuonzo Martin's handling of the complaint against Hufnagel on March 16, 2016, just before the NCAA Tournament. That would very much seem to contradict his assertions here.
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A few things you can be sure of when you see a monster thread has a couple dozen new posts:
- many of them will be Shocks posts
- many of those will have nothing to do with the topic of the thread (but would be entirely appropriate in other threads not started by shocks)
- all of shocks posts will be long and full of incomprehensible in jokes or pictures of women.


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aun, got no idea wut u talking about

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cal's monster offensive line recruiting update:

coach bloesch has extended an offer to 6'4" 285 lbs offensive tackle jayce mitchell from destrehan louisiana...jayce's hudl footage shows a remarkable motor & foot speed to make 2nd level blocks

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get paid (in the national football league)#
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chad hansen update:

don't be a dumb azz (bears r smart)#
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cal's 2024 junior day update (march 4th, 2023):

6'2" 177 lbs 4.2 gpa defensive back rancho cucamonga#
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AunBear89 said:

A few things you can be sure of when you see a monster thread has a couple dozen new posts:
- many of them will be Shocks posts
- many of those will have nothing to do with the topic of the thread (but would be entirely appropriate in other threads not started by shocks)
- all of shocks posts will be long and full of incomprehensible in jokes or pictures of women.


Yawn
yawn, back at ya ... you do know you don't have to follow his thead
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Oakbear said:

AunBear89 said:

A few things you can be sure of when you see a monster thread has a couple dozen new posts:
- many of them will be Shocks posts
- many of those will have nothing to do with the topic of the thread (but would be entirely appropriate in other threads not started by shocks)
- all of shocks posts will be long and full of incomprehensible in jokes or pictures of women.


Yawn
yawn, back at ya ... you do know you don't have to follow his thead
I find the Monster Thread very amusing and have no issue with any of the above.
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Shocky1 said:

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right now the bears got 27 scholly departures (with more on the way):

daniel scott, safety...out of eligibility
odua isibor, edge defender...out of eligiblity
jamieson sheahan, punter...out of eligilbity
braxton croteau, outside linebacker...medical retirement
ryan lange, guard...football retirement
kyle smith, inside linebacker...portal as grad transfer
ryan puskas, inside linebacker...portal as grad transfer
orin patu, edge defender...grad transfer to arizona
patrick histake, edge defender...portal to hawaii...no berkeley degree
henry ikahihifo, outside linebacker...portal to nevada...no berkeley degree
femi oladejo, linebacker...portal to ucla...no berkeley degree
trey paster, linebacker...portal as grad transfer
ben coleman, guard...grad transfer to asu
spencer lovell, guard...grad transfer to kansas
nick alftin, tight end...portal as grad transfer
keleki latu, tight end...portal to nevada...no berkeley degree
jermaine terry, tight end...portal to oregon state...no berkeley degree
j michael sturdivant...portal to ucla...no berkeley degree
ashton hayes, running back...portal to nevada...no berkeley degree
chris street, running back...portal...no berkeley degree
damien moore, running back...portal to fresno state...no berkeley degree
decarlos brooks, running back...grad transfer portal to asu
slater zellers, longsnapper...grad transfer to asu
dario longhetto, kicker...grad transfer to asu
jack plummer, quarterback...grad transfer to louisville
kai milner, quarterback...portal to northern arizona...no berkeley degree
zach johnson, quarterback...portal as grad transfer



https://instagr.am/p/BixRSjoh6bS
important note: all potential player movement projections in this post reflect my opinions & not those necessarily of the staff

coach wilcox indicated in the recent football zoom meeting that he wuz targeting 5 additional scholly players when the transfer portal reopens in may...this will include a quarterback such as ideally ucla's justyn martin if he enters the portal & 1-2 more immediate impact guys for cal's monster offensive line...last season the o-line room wuz at only 14 schollys, it needs to be rightsized to 16+

in that the roster math for the scholly count is currently at 85 (27 additions & 27 departures, see above list), this means there will be another 5 scholly departures after spring ball before the portal reopens in may

so who's most likely gonna be crossing the road to life next's great adventure?

the monster is of the opinion that a majority (if not all) 5 players will come from tight end & wide receivers rooms

it's important to note that all 6 of these players are heading into their 4th year in berkeley this fall, in that these student athletes have had the opportunity to attend multiple summer school sessions there is absolutely no reason that they can't either graduate this summer or with one final semester next fall...nobody is gonna be leaving berkeley without a college degree like chris street, got it?

tight end room:

jake muller: virtually no snaps during his first 3 seasons, muller has been passed up on the depth chart by walk on jack endries & the 3 player rotation of elijah mojarro, asher alberding & jt byrne...teammates have also noted his substandard work ethic, jake needs to finish off his berkeley degree & enter the real world (monster odds of departure: 95%)

andy alfieri: will be competing for 5th/6th string this spring, those development snaps will go away when high upside ben marshall shows up this summer...andy is a good student, he needs to graduate with a berkeley degree & then if he's still interested in playing ball becoming a grad transfer at somewhere like portland state with 2 years of remaining eligibility (monster odds of departure: 90%)

wide receivers room:

mason magnum: not gonna participate in spring ball as he focuses on track again...mason is a terrific student & a talented sprinter, magnum is likely to spend his final year in berkeley on a track scholly (monster odds of departure: 95%)

aiden lee: injured all last season, lee is too slow to create separation at the pac 12 level...aiden could either take a medical retirement or quickly graduate & become a grad transfer at somewhere like northern arizona getting snaps & catching balls from kai milner with 2 years of remaining eligibility (monster odds of departure: 90%)

justin richard baker: very popular player that has embraced the full berkeley experience, justin got speed (electrifying 55 yard td pass against oregon & the 26 yard punt return against colorado last season are evidence of those skills) so does he wanna be buried in coach toler's remarkably deep wide receivers room again or graduate quickly with a berkeley degree & spend his final 2 years in a full spread offense that will showcase his talents? (monster odds of departure: 50%)

tommy christakos: like justin a strong student with physical tools but buried in the bears wr room, lacking top end separation speed christakos got the bad habit of ending on the ground after diving after every passing play that targets him...got height & could get a free 2 year mba somewhere while catching balls if that's the direction he wants to go (monster odds of departure: 50%)

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It's too bad about Aiden Lee. I was at the spring practice where Plummer threw a terrible pass that left him out to dry and ended up being the injury that knocked him out all last year. He was having a great camp up until then. That one terrible pass in practice probably results in a medical retirement
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calumnus said:

Shocky1 said:

monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation

Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.

It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?

Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.

You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.

Bill
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Bill,

Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.

Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.

Best

Dan


Pretty sure that they do not need an "on the record complaint" and that most of the UC and California state compliance departments can initiate investigations based on an anonymous complaints or just evidence of possible violations from the Munger report.

Also, It was Dan Mogulof who announced in a press release the investigation into Cuonzo Martin's handling of the complaint against Hufnagel on March 16, 2016, just before the NCAA Tournament. That would very much seem to contradict his assertions here.
That assertion seems illogical. You get unofficial notice that an employee is allegedly engaging in improper or illegal conduct and the university wouldn't start looking into it? That seems crazy because it would work to enable harm against students and subject the university to financial liability. The more responsible course of action would be to take some measures whenever any allegation is made regardless of form. Maybe it isn't correct to always call those actions 'investigations' but some 'investigatory' action should always follow any report.
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tequila4kapp said:

calumnus said:

Shocky1 said:

monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation

Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.

It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?

Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.

You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.

Bill
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Bill,

Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.

Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.

Best

Dan


Pretty sure that they do not need an "on the record complaint" and that most of the UC and California state compliance departments can initiate investigations based on an anonymous complaints or just evidence of possible violations from the Munger report.

Also, It was Dan Mogulof who announced in a press release the investigation into Cuonzo Martin's handling of the complaint against Hufnagel on March 16, 2016, just before the NCAA Tournament. That would very much seem to contradict his assertions here.
That assertion seems illogical. You get unofficial notice that an employee is allegedly engaging in improper or illegal conduct and the university wouldn't start looking into it? That seems crazy because it would work to enable harm against students and subject the university to financial liability. The more responsible course of action would be to take some measures whenever any allegation is made regardless of form. Maybe it isn't correct to always call those actions 'investigations' but some 'investigatory' action should always follow any report.


Yep, I call "BS" on that. People in charge of compliance are supposed to be verifying compliance every day, but also set up anonymous reporting sites and hotlines, but can do nothing unless there is a formal, on the record complaint? Makes no sense.
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SBGold said:

It's too bad about Aiden Lee. I was at the spring practice where Plummer threw a terrible pass that left him out to dry and ended up being the injury that knocked him out all last year. He was having a great camp up until then. That one terrible pass in practice probably results in a medical retirement
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goldy, hopefully u will be able to attend some spring practices this year & report back re: coach toler's room, ok?

wut do u think of the monster's current spring ball wr depth chart?

jeremiah hunter: undisputed leader of the room after a 2nd team all pac 12 season with 60 receptions for almost 1000 yards...can jeremiah be a 1st teamer in 2023?

mavin anderson: speedster caught 37 balls despite poor play calling by billy m that failed to get the playmaker in space on a consistent basis

monroe young: arguably the best route runner & blocking wideout on the team, he's earned a starting spot...this is not another wilcox dumb azz loyalty deal like starting damien moore over jaydn ott or dario longhetto over michael luckhurst...ro is the role model in the room for the young ones

brian hightower: 6th year physical specimen will be competing this spring to finally put it all together after an all american high school career, the time is now

mason starling: unreal combination of length & athleticism coming from the san mateo college fighting' benjis, looks like a nfl pro bowler in person...would be higher up the monster depth chart but will be held out of spring ball

marquis montgomery: the hawaii native has never played in an offense that showcases his talents, coach spav got schemes for wideouts to fulfill their destinies

jaiven plummer: the 6'3" 210 lbs blueshirt is gonna get his chance this spring ball with 4 years of remaining eligibility

nyziah hunter: elite upside talent will need to make the transition academically & in the film room before he starts leapfrogging his way up the depth chart muy rapido

there are also 5 very talented preferred walk ons in grant daley, kenden robinson jr, trond grizzell, chris rogers & jordan king

this is the deepest room in the program in terms of legit pac 12 talent & that's why the 4 wrs referenced above including aiden lee may be moving on without schollys after spring ball but secure in their unlimited futures with berkeley degrees

yeah there's only 1 football

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I like our room a lot, I do worry we don't have the burner type that stretches the field to open up things underneath. We probably have not had that since Trevor Davis or D Rob.

I met Trond Grizzell's mom at the NIL trading card table, she was looking for extra cards of her son. I opened a pack and had one and offered it to her. I think she traded me a Sturdivant card for her son's card. She was very nice, but she told me clearly "Some day you will be wanting my son's card." So I'm rooting for him to move up the list and be our Mike Caldwell from the early 90s
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best california golden bears name evah#
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Shocky1 said:

Shocky1 said:



this is a sorta friendly message/tutorial to all the fellow dumb azzs that wuz in haas/our palace yesterday evening for the bears epic victory

watch both of these videos carefully & take notes like u wuz at wheeler hall, this is how u ******* storm the floor, ok?

u don't send a 1 person broken down sorry azz fearless storm the floor "team" out there, got it?



next time, do better, got it?#
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conclusive photographic proof from taylor re: her dumb azz dad's failed 1 person stormin' the floor escapades after shaking hands with lars ("sprechen sie deutsch?") & in his last fleeting moments of freedom before being encircled by a 17 yellow jacketed armed security force that reports to fuhrer knowlton

but more importantly check out the faces in the crowd:

is that my partner in monstrous crimes hoop dreams clapping by the blue railings?

joel brown is still in shock thinking "that's my guy but he's definitely crazy as ****"

devin askew is smirking "if he calls me carrot top, he's done"

all the cal coaches (except one) just gonna ignore the monster, fun is not part of the deal

the curvy brunette yoga female in the 3rd row in the light blue puffer jacket is wondering if she can go to nooner modern yoga with me...her friend to the right with one lulu lemon leg dragged over the seat in front of her thinks the shockster should just be walked to his car, yeah she's absolutely sure

the lady with blue cal jacket in the 3rd row is photographing the monster for unknown reasons

my brothers from other mothers in the 7th row r laughing like this is kinda like marshawn driving the golf cart around or something

the lady wearing a black facemask on the far left in the 4th row is not amused by such childish behavior while the 2 females friends above her in the 6th row are celebrating like they just saw the loch ness monster

yeah its gonna take more than a cancellation to kill my vibe, forevah forevah

r u there?



the magic of cal basketball (cal's monster class)#
can the con artist totally destroy the magic of cal basketball???

tonite's attendance at haas vs the visiting university of washington: 1,329

tonite's attendance for them tarleton texans vs the visiting utah valley: 2,017
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Shocky1 said:

monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation

Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.

It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?

Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.

You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.

Bill
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Bill,

Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.

Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.

Best

Dan

"...the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated."

Did anyone else find this statement odd? Is that the law? Did Moguloff misspeak? Am I misunderstanding?
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GMP said:

Shocky1 said:

monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation

Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.

It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?

Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.

You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.

Bill
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Bill,

Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.

Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.

Best

Dan

"...the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated."

Did anyone else find this statement odd? Is that the law? Did Moguloff misspeak? Am I misunderstanding?


"While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met."

The way I read it he is saying that the fact they commented on the Munger report means there was no finding that policy was violated and that there is no investigation. This despite the fact that report specifically says they were not investigating anyone other than McKeever and tgere being multiple redacted sections and clear possible violations of university protocols and even State and Federal law. It reminds me of Barr and Trump claiming the Mueller report was a "complete exoneration."

Moreover, we know that Mogulof released a press statement, the day before we left for the NCAA Tournament, that Cuonzo Martin was being investigated for violating university protocol. Thus, his statement that the law does not permit him to comment on an investigation is patently false, unless he broke the law then or the law changed since then.
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GMP said:

Shocky1 said:

monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation

Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.

It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?

Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.

You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.

Bill
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Bill,

Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.

Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.

Best

Dan

"...the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated."

Did anyone else find this statement odd? Is that the law? Did Moguloff misspeak? Am I misunderstanding?
I cannot remember the details but a few years back Moduloff made public statements regarding an incident - maybe something around Sather Gate - that I really questioned the veracity of. These comments add to the mix. I appreciate Shocky saying he's a good dude but...
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calumnus said:

GMP said:

Shocky1 said:

monster mailbag part deux: the rest of the conversation

Dan, thank you for responding so quickly, that is appreciated.

It would then appear to be the university's policy to not commence any investigations until lawsuits are formally served but wouldn't it make strategic and expeditious sense to have had the Munger costly & lengthy report include any findings of potential senior administration department wrongdoing in order to get ahead of the high probability of future lawsuits?

Also appreciate your carefully selected choice of words when the Munger report was received that gave me the perception that you appeared to be not on board with Knowlton's apparently unilateral decision to apologize to the swimming families which no doubt will impact the university's ability to conduct a proper defense in future lawsuits.

You are in an interesting scenario of hopefully seeking the truth but also defending the university.

Bill
____________________________________________________________________________________

Bill,

Not quite. While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met.

Finally, while I'm not sure which words of mine you are referring to as "carefully selected," but I can assure you that I did not, in any way, intend to convey disapproval of any sort in regards to the Athletic Director's message. I can also assure you that in these situations all of our communications, including the AD's, are reviewed by our attorneys.

Best

Dan

"...the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated."

Did anyone else find this statement odd? Is that the law? Did Moguloff misspeak? Am I misunderstanding?


"While we do comment when there is litigation, the law does not allow us to release and comment on an investigation if and when there is finding that policy was violated. This is why we were able to release and comment on the Munger report. And, again, as I described below, there are set criteria for when investigations are launched so if an investigation was not conducted, that means the criteria were not met."

The way I read it he is saying that the fact they commented on the Munger report means there was no finding that policy was violated and that there is no investigation. This despite the fact that report specifically says they were not investigating anyone other than McKeever and tgere being multiple redacted sections and clear possible violations of university protocols and even State and Federal law. It reminds me of Barr and Trump claiming the Mueller report was a "complete exoneration."

Moreover, we know that Mogulof released a press statement, the day before we left for the NCAA Tournament, that Cuonzo Martin was being investigated for violating university protocol. Thus, his statement that the law does not permit him to comment on an investigation is patently false, unless he broke the law then or the law changed since then.
Is the Munger report the recent report about McKeever or something different?
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