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Anyway, one thing that does seem likely is that whether or not Gameday comes to Berkeley, if Miami comes in undefeated I think the game is likely to be picked as a prime time ABC broadcast. Would be a great chance for Cal to do something on a big network TV stage, something we haven't had in a long while.

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Honestly, I think we get a national broadcast if either school loses a game.

Also, Miami - Vtech is no gimme for Miami.

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Anyway, one thing that does seem likely is that whether or not Gameday comes to Berkeley, if Miami comes in undefeated I think the game is likely to be picked as a prime time ABC broadcast. Would be a great chance for Cal to do something on a big network TV stage, something we haven't had in a long while.

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Honestly, I think we get a national broadcast if either school loses a game.

Also, Miami - Vtech is no gimme for Miami.

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We'll get some kind of national broadcast, but to get that prime time ABC slot (4:30 PT/7:30 ET) I think we need a highly ranked Miami. Otherwise they could easily throw another SEC matchup in there.

I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

DoubtfulBear said:

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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Texas vs Michigan was a top 10 v top 10 matchup. gameday isn't going to a B1G vs B1G matchup unless it is undefeated teams or OSU/PSU or OSU/Mich. A&M vs Mizzou far more likely than Washington/Mich.

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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Washington just lost to Washington state. Michigan lost to Texas. Neither is likely to host gameday.

Undefeated Miami and undefeated Cal would definitely get the nod. If either team is not undefeated it gets dicey.

Fingers crossed that USC beats Michigan

As much as I'd like to see it come to fruition, I can't say that it would be "definite" at all. Not when you have other games with more national buzz. I could even see Auburn at Georgia if Auburn wins out to that point, although Georgia has far more compelling games on its schedule for a GameDay.

The fact that we've beaten Auburn and yet 35 other teams have votes above us tells me all I need to know about our national brand. And we play before half empty crowds on top of that. I see as many as four games that might take priority before our game. But I do agree that our game should be a national game from a viewing perspective. If we win vs Miami, then I am thinking we can start talking about GameDay more seriously.

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It would be good if we got the Rose Bowl quarterfinal game in the playoff spot

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Ha!

Yes. It would.

But HA!!

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The fact that we've beaten Auburn and yet 35 other teams have votes above us tells me all I need to know about our national brand.

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Brilliant!
Tell me. When was the last time we won anything?

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As much as I'd like to see it come to fruition, I can't say that it would be "definite" at all. Not when you have other games with more national buzz. I could even see Auburn at Georgia if Auburn wins out to that point, although Georgia has far more compelling games on its schedule for a GameDay.

The fact that we've beaten Auburn and yet 35 other teams have votes above us tells me all I need to know about our national brand. And we play before half empty crowds on top of that. I see as many as four games that might take priority before our game. But I do agree that our game should be a national game from a viewing perspective. If we win vs Miami, then I am thinking we can start talking about GameDay more seriously.

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Brands are definitely important, but in our case, what set us up very low in terms of expectations is that we had a lackluster season last year, coming off several mediocre seasons. Compare with say Arizona, whose "brand" is similar to us, that started out ranked because they did well last year.

I think we get into the top 25 eating cheeseburgers on our bye week, should we win in Tallahassee.

I also think SC beats Michigan at Ann Arbor, and that might be the difference, especially if it's a convincing win. At 2-2, Michigan's record is going to trump Michigan's brand.

As well, any noise or online hype for GD in Berkeley and enthusiasm generated by our program's revival, the ACC realignment, the emergence of Miami as the top contender in the conference, and the side stories of a kid from Miami who dreamt of playing for the Canes now leading Cal against them, and their QB from Wazzou now being the top favorite for the Heisman, all of these items are going to factor in their choice, star power and side stories galore. The ESPN crew probably loves going to the Bay Area and will be looking for an excuse to weekend in SF.

If we beat what would then be an 0-4 FSU team, we'd have to jump over 10 teams. Just to get to #25. I'm not saying it's impossible, but imagine being say, Indiana in the same situation. Would you see that happening?

We all love our Bears but we have to realize the rest of the country doesn't see us the same way. Paul Finebaum flatly said before the Auburn game that Cal had "no chance" to beat them. This despite a down to the wire 14-10 loss last year. This is the perception we are up against. And after the win, the narrative was more about Thorne's bad play than about the fact that maybe, just maybe, Cal had something to do with that bad performance.

This is why I don't see a GameDay until after we've done something big, not before. Beating Miami would be a start. Increasing our attendance wouldn't hurt either.

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If we beat what would then be an 0-4 FSU team, we'd have to jump over 10 teams. Just to get to #25. I'm not saying it's impossible, but imagine being say, Indiana in the same situation. Would you see that happening?

We all love our Bears but we have to realize the rest of the country doesn't see us the same way. Paul Finebaum flatly said before the Auburn game that Cal had "no chance" to beat them. This despite a down to the wire 14-10 loss last year. This is the perception we are up against. And after the win, the narrative was more about Thorne's bad play than about the fact that maybe, just maybe, Cal had something to do with that bad performance.

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That can kind of play in our favor, similar to Duke's good start last year. BDW academic programs rising is a compelling story, they were the toast of CF last October.

The thing is that with us in the ACC, we have had more visibility than usual and people are noticing. If we confirm against FSU then our game will be at least as attractive as any other that week.

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If we beat what would then be an 0-4 FSU team, we'd have to jump over 10 teams. Just to get to #25. I'm not saying it's impossible, but imagine being say, Indiana in the same situation. Would you see that happening?

We all love our Bears but we have to realize the rest of the country doesn't see us the same way. Paul Finebaum flatly said before the Auburn game that Cal had "no chance" to beat them. This despite a down to the wire 14-10 loss last year. This is the perception we are up against. And after the win, the narrative was more about Thorne's bad play than about the fact that maybe, just maybe, Cal had something to do with that bad performance.

This is why I don't see a GameDay until after we've done something big, not before. Beating Miami would be a start. Increasing our attendance wouldn't hurt either.

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I think you discount the fact that Gameday WANTS to come to Cal. They want to go to every school. And a clash of undefeated teams with one being in the top ten give them adequate reason.

Also, I can see ESPN getting their writers to vote the Bears into 25th. Particularly, once teams start getting into conference play and chaos ensues which will happen over the next 2 weeks.

Alrighty! I will cross my fingers and hope you are right! I am a cautious sunshine pumper (i.e. realist) but I can certainly be wrong. I'll toast you should we get the GameDay prize...but I ain't betting the farm on it....

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Alrighty! I will cross my fingers and hope you are right! I am a cautious sunshine pumper (i.e. realist) but I can certainly be wrong. I'll toast you should we get the GameDay prize...but I ain't betting the farm on it....

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Well, both us and Miami need to win out. That is no guarantee either! My fingers are crossed as well.

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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Texas vs Michigan was a top 10 v top 10 matchup. gameday isn't going to a B1G vs B1G matchup unless it is undefeated teams or OSU/PSU or OSU/Mich. A&M vs Mizzou far more likely than Washington/Mich.

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Yea you're right. A&M vs. Mizzou is a virtual lock since 1) both teams are ranked and 2) both teams are SEC. There hasn't been a College Gameday this year that doesn't feature at least 1 SEC team and with Fox Big Noon going to OSU vs. Marshall, it's clear that ESPN will also be biased towards their premier conference

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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Texas vs Michigan was a top 10 v top 10 matchup. gameday isn't going to a B1G vs B1G matchup unless it is undefeated teams or OSU/PSU or OSU/Mich. A&M vs Mizzou far more likely than Washington/Mich.

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Yea you're right. A&M vs. Mizzou is a virtual lock since 1) both teams are ranked and 2) both teams are SEC. There hasn't been a College Gameday this year that doesn't feature at least 1 SEC team and with Fox Big Noon going to OSU vs. Marshall, it's clear that ESPN will also be biased towards their premier conference

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The argument against the A&M game is that they already went there in Week 1 and would probably like to go somewhere else. They've gone to the same location twice in a season before, so it's not out of the question but I suspect there's a desire to feature different locations when possible.

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?
Don't confuse "viewership" numbers for games the same as viewership for Game Day....definitely a smaller number with less fluctuation.
IF it was a rematch and both teams were top 10, maybe I would give this some play. The "rematch" factor has to be balanced with ESPN sitting there for a few hours talking (off and on) about a game on another Network.

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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Gameday is a marketing opportunity.

The perception of Cal was that it didn't have enough fans, or a market that was interested enough in college football to be worth buying by the B1G/Fox. We need every opportunity we can muster to prove that narrative wrong.

The billboards in Atlanta were a huge step in the right direction for that.

Gameday at Berkeley would be another huge opportunity. That said, students and fans would have to fulfill that opportunity by showing up in large numbers at 6am. If they do, it definitely sends a message to Fox and the B1G that maybe we should be included in the next round of re-alignment.

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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The B1G no longer having an ESPN contract is why I think the Michigan-Washington game is further down the pecking order. If both teams are highly ranked and it's clearly the best game then they will go there, sure. But if it's close at all then probably the B1G game loses the tiebreaker. They want to feature a game on ESPN or ABC.

mbBear said:

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mbBear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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At a time when cal desperately needs positive national exposure, gameday is like the big white whale. It's a 3 hour commercial focused on cal. There will be cal celebrities, in depth profiles on our program and players, interviews, beautiful shots of campus, etc.

Gameday hits way differently than just having a nationally broadcast game.

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mbBear said:

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sycasey said:

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mbBear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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At a time when cal desperately needs positive national exposure, gameday is like the big white whale. It's a 3 hour commercial focused on cal. There will be cal celebrities, in depth profiles on our program and players, interviews, beautiful shots of campus, etc.

Gameday hits way differently than just having a nationally broadcast game.

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I think it's helpful no doubt. Game numbers are generally (not always) higher...."hits differently?" Sure, but then you can't go out and lose to Miami 42-14...
Just saying, in 4 weeks, no one will remember who and where was GameDay....if by then Cal's only loss is to Miami? Bigger deal...sustained success, and rankings and features on Cal will be there anyway....
But let's have it all!! Game Day, winning, everything!!!!

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mbBear said:

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sycasey said:

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mbBear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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The B1G no longer having an ESPN contract is why I think the Michigan-Washington game is further down the pecking order. If both teams are highly ranked and it's clearly the best game then they will go there, sure. But if it's close at all then probably the B1G game loses the tiebreaker. They want to feature a game on ESPN or ABC.

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Exactly...and maybe Cal wasn't high on everyone's list when they were a "free agent" in conference realignment. But let's not lose track of trees and forests here: Cal having success is nothing but good news for the Mouse Ears....

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sycasey said:

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mbBear said:

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sycasey said:

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mbBear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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The B1G no longer having an ESPN contract is why I think the Michigan-Washington game is further down the pecking order. If both teams are highly ranked and it's clearly the best game then they will go there, sure. But if it's close at all then probably the B1G game loses the tiebreaker. They want to feature a game on ESPN or ABC.

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Exactly...and maybe Cal wasn't high on everyone's list when they were a "free agent" in conference realignment. But let's not lose track of trees and forests here: Cal having success is nothing but good news for the Mouse Ears....

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We are now one of only two major college football teams on the west coast that they have full TV rights to. They would love to see us or Stanford become a successful program again, for sure.

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mbBear said:

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sycasey said:

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mbBear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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At a time when cal desperately needs positive national exposure, gameday is like the big white whale. It's a 3 hour commercial focused on cal. There will be cal celebrities, in depth profiles on our program and players, interviews, beautiful shots of campus, etc.

Gameday hits way differently than just having a nationally broadcast game.

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I think it's helpful no doubt. Game numbers are generally (not always) higher...."hits differently?" Sure, but then you can't go out and lose to Miami 42-14...
Just saying, in 4 weeks, no one will remember who and where was GameDay....if by then Cal's only loss is to Miami? Bigger deal...sustained success, and rankings and features on Cal will be there anyway....
But let's have it all!! Game Day, winning, everything!!!!

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I don't know about no one remembers. I still find myself watching Ken jeong clips when he was on gameday. And I can tell you, that duke gameday (which I think could be similar to ours) made an impression on me.

Marshawn will go viral. I know for us old people that doesn't mean much, but trust me, it helps. People are going to remember that before remembering the actual game.

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mbBear said:

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sycasey said:

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mbBear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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At a time when cal desperately needs positive national exposure, gameday is like the big white whale. It's a 3 hour commercial focused on cal. There will be cal celebrities, in depth profiles on our program and players, interviews, beautiful shots of campus, etc.

Gameday hits way differently than just having a nationally broadcast game.

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I think it's helpful no doubt. Game numbers are generally (not always) higher...."hits differently?" Sure, but then you can't go out and lose to Miami 42-14...
Just saying, in 4 weeks, no one will remember who and where was GameDay....if by then Cal's only loss is to Miami? Bigger deal...sustained success, and rankings and features on Cal will be there anyway....
But let's have it all!! Game Day, winning, everything!!!!

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I think it is important to remove the stigma of being one of a handful of schools in a power conference to have never hosted. It removes a negative more than it adds a positive.

It adds to the storyline - "For the first time ever, coming to you from Berkeley, California..."

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mbBear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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At a time when cal desperately needs positive national exposure, gameday is like the big white whale. It's a 3 hour commercial focused on cal. There will be cal celebrities, in depth profiles on our program and players, interviews, beautiful shots of campus, etc.

Gameday hits way differently than just having a nationally broadcast game.

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This x1000. Don't get me wrong, winning the game matters more than having gameday and losing; but it's a big deal.

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As well, any noise or online hype for GD in Berkeley and enthusiasm generated by our program's revival, the ACC realignment, the emergence of Miami as the top contender in the conference, and the side stories of a kid from Miami who dreamt of playing for the Canes now leading Cal against them, and their QB from Wazzou now being the top favorite for the Heisman, all of these items are going to factor in their choice, star power and side stories galore.

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This is 100% right. There are way too many great stories for this game not to be GameDay IF (and it's a huge if) Cal can take another flight across the country and beat another football blue blood. Make no mistake. FSU is more talented than Auburn up and down the roster. They are a wounded giant animal. Eventually they will pull it together but hopefully not this week. IF we win and IF Miami wins, GameDay is coming to Berkeley. Book it.

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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At a time when cal desperately needs positive national exposure, gameday is like the big white whale. It's a 3 hour commercial focused on cal. There will be cal celebrities, in depth profiles on our program and players, interviews, beautiful shots of campus, etc.

Gameday hits way differently than just having a nationally broadcast game.

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This x1000. Don't get me wrong, winning the game matters more than having gameday and losing; but it's a big deal.

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I will blame the Old Blue in me, emphasis on Old, us Cal fans who were thrilled to be on national TV.... good points by everyone.

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As well, any noise or online hype for GD in Berkeley and enthusiasm generated by our program's revival, the ACC realignment, the emergence of Miami as the top contender in the conference, and the side stories of a kid from Miami who dreamt of playing for the Canes now leading Cal against them, and their QB from Wazzou now being the top favorite for the Heisman, all of these items are going to factor in their choice, star power and side stories galore.

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This is 100% right. There are way too many great stories for this game not to be GameDay IF (and it's a huge if) Cal can take another flight across the country and beat another football blue blood. Make no mistake. FSU is more talented than Auburn up and down the roster. They are a wounded giant animal. Eventually they will pull it together but hopefully not this week. IF we win and IF Miami wins, GameDay is coming to Berkeley. Book it.

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This right here. They are the most talented team we'll have faced so far and are desparate for a win. I think the loss to Memphis made this game more challenging for us.

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I think you guys underrate the impact of brand value and viewership on GameDay. There's a reason why Texas Michigan was that highest viewed game last week despite a blowout. Michigan Washington (championship rematch) is very likely at this point unless something crazy happens next week

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even though it's not going to be on ESPN or ABC?

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I think with Washington falling to WSU that this game is now in 3rd place at best to host that week.

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I think that's totally fair. And I can't say this enough times: it's a new world for ESPN....the Big is not their friend anymore relative to the ACC and SEC....we don't really know what that all means.
I will add here: I have been an active participant in this thread...I found it kind of fun. But if I am being honest, I don't consider having Game Day on campus as big of a deal as some others. The fact that Cal this week is on East Coast Prime Time is a lot more eyeballs than Game Day...

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At a time when cal desperately needs positive national exposure, gameday is like the big white whale. It's a 3 hour commercial focused on cal. There will be cal celebrities, in depth profiles on our program and players, interviews, beautiful shots of campus, etc.

Gameday hits way differently than just having a nationally broadcast game.

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This x1000. Don't get me wrong, winning the game matters more than having gameday and losing; but it's a big deal.

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Here's the thing, it isn't either or, it's both. Having Game Day in Berkeley is a huge opportunity to really hype the game to Cal students, alums and the Bay Area so we get a big noisy crowd that can help us beat Miami. And maybe that crowd keeps coming back.

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This is 100% right. There are way too many great stories for this game not to be GameDay IF (and it's a huge if) Cal can take another flight across the country and beat another football blue blood. Make no mistake. FSU is more talented than Auburn up and down the roster. They are a wounded giant animal. Eventually they will pull it together but hopefully not this week. IF we win and IF Miami wins, GameDay is coming to Berkeley. Book it.

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My recollection is that Cal has not performed particularly well against good Florida based teams in Florida over the years (yes, I know that past performance is not necessarily a predictor of future games), losing to Florida in 1974, and getting blown out by Florida and Miami in 1980 and 1989, respectively.

Although, Cal did manage to win a close one against a mediocre Miami team sixty years ago under Ray Willsey in 1964.

As a jaded Old Blue I expect that Cal will lose on Saturday to an FSU team that has so far not played to its potential, and all the Game Day discussion will become inoperative (as Ron Ziegler might put it).

I'd love to be surprised on Saturday, but pleasant Cal surprises have been in relatively short supply over the last sixty years.