It was an email I received - I just got a "corrected' version as well. I don't know if it's posted on the CalBears website - it probably should be.KoreAmBear said:Where is this posted?LACalFan said:Dear Friend of Cal Athletics -Yogi Bear said:We don't know these people as well as we imagine we do. Let's not pretend that we do.LACalFan said:
Wilcox doesn't seem like the type of person to brush this kind of thing off. I'd be shocked if he didn't take it to the appropriate people.
I
am writing to you regarding a recent Facebook post that presents a series of
serious and disturbing allegations regarding the conduct of individuals
associated with our football program. Let me be absolutely clear: we will lend our full moral and operational
support to the campus inquiry into these allegations. We will support the
imposition of appropriate consequences as required by the outcome of that
inquiry. We believe in a culture that fosters dignity and respect. The alleged
actions run completely counter to the core values of Cal Athletics and our
University.
When
I, Coach Wilcox and my leadership team first became aware of these allegations,
we immediately, as per policy, referred the matter to the campus Office
for the Prevention of Harassment and Discrimination (OPHD), which is responsible for investigating allegations of discrimination and
harassment, including sexual harassment and sexual violence. We encourage anyone needing confidential support
or other campus resources to contact the campus' PATH
to Care Center.
These allegations are surfacing in the midst of a
concerted and ongoing effort across our department that began several years ago
to educate and engage our staff and student-athletes about preventing and
respondi ng to sexual harassment and violence. Through
formal training sessions for coaches, staff and student-athletes, we have been
clear and consistent about our refusal to tolerate this most egregious form of
misconduct. If necessary, we will do more.
I
have been in close communication with Coach Wilcox, and I know he shares these
values, principles and commitments.
As
the person entrusted with well-being of more than 1,000 student-athletes,
coaches and staff, I have no greater responsibility at this moment in time than
ensuring we do the right things in the right way. We will be as transparent as
possible every step of the way. You have my word on it.
Go Bears,
It appears that he went through the correct procedures, and reporting the matter to OPHD (Cal's Title IX office) right away would be it.
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There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or attention-seeking in her Instagram. Unless it's being judged by an extreme religious conservative. A young SoCal woman in a bikini? Oh, the humanity!NVBear78 said:flounder said:i agree, she sounds like an absolute nut job based on her decision to go to the hotel room and to the party. she is an adult and chose to start drinking the tequila. what kind of sane and rational adult would go to a party filled with people she feels uncomfortable around and starts binge drinking.TonyTiger said:
I'm sorry but I didn't read any further after she said she met a man at midnight who she felt was a sicko and stocking her. Its nonsensical. No woman would do that. I'm not saying she's lying but I had to reread it three times before simply moving on.
I did read a snippet somewhere else where she said she's dealing with mental illness, now that might explain why she went there for her mental illness would not allow her to think clearly and she was processing information wrong, either way don't they do background checks and wouldn't it not say somewhere that she's dealing with mental issues thus a high profile employer would probably not hire her.
If she's definitely got mental issues then I definitely side with her for it makes everything worst for she had the same ability to make major decisions as a child thus why she kept making wrong ones. Her mental illness actually makes this quite worst than simple Sexual Harassment.
Who hired her without talking to her fellow players I bet they knew based on her openness to admit it now.
based on the info she gave I'm betting its a former WR coach.
that being said, hopefully wilcox and knowlton did what they are legally and morally required to do.
If you look at her profile on social media and the multitude of scantily clad and suggestive pictures she is still posting you will see she is seeking attention. Amazing to see her also using social media to troll for her coming lawsuit, is that what what plaintiff sexual harassment lawyers really encourage now?
Patience is a virtue, but I’m not into virtue signaling these days.
I put this on the BI thread as well, but I thought I would take my chances on Growls...
My wife and I looked at some of this information online before going to work today. After reviewing the accusers FB post and online presence on IG, two things seem very very clear to both of us:
1) If PC is lying about the "poor college student unable to survive without her $600 stipend" line of argument, what else is she lying about? And, it is clear she is lying about the "poor college student" crap. From IG you can see MULTIPLE trips to the French Riviera, The Hamptons, and Martha's Vineyard - just during the last couple of years. Anyone taking multiple trips to France during their college years gets very little sympathy from either my wife or I - especially if that person claims to be so desperately broke that she needed her $600/month stipend above all else.
2) I realize that before I make this next statement, it will be greeted with horror and anger from many of you. However, I have lived in Texas for >30 years since graduating from Cal and my wife is a native Texan and southern conservative Christian lady. Thus, our frame of reference will be different from many of you on this board. Having said that ... What on earth is PC wearing in most of the IG pictures? If that combination of leggings and tank top (in the pic of her on the campus grass) is what she wore to her "job", then she should have been asked to change her outfit. That clothing is acceptable work attire only if you are a prostitute or stripper. I don't believe she is either of those.
Now, shame on the Cal AD if they don't understand they are running a multi-million dollar business and don't have employee handbooks, dress codes, etc. I hope they are smarter than that. Now, if they have no handbook, no published dress code, and enforced an ad-hoc dress code upon PC individually while allowing others to not adhere to this dress code - then SHAME ON THE CAL AD. I would recommend a dress code for ALL GENDERS (see how I included you nice California peeps there?) as follows:
+ Loose fitting Cal Polo Shirt (provided by employer)
+ Loose fitting Cal Shorts, no higher than 4 " above the knee (provided by employer)
+ If employee is cold, then tight fitting leggings or long sleeve shirts are acceptable attire for work - IF WORN UNDERNEATH THE REQUIRED ATTIRE (such additional cold weather attire to be provided by employee)
You put this dress code in the employee handbook that is signed by employee at time of employment. Why is this difficult? Truly these people running Cal AD have to be this smart, yes? SMDH....
My wife and I looked at some of this information online before going to work today. After reviewing the accusers FB post and online presence on IG, two things seem very very clear to both of us:
1) If PC is lying about the "poor college student unable to survive without her $600 stipend" line of argument, what else is she lying about? And, it is clear she is lying about the "poor college student" crap. From IG you can see MULTIPLE trips to the French Riviera, The Hamptons, and Martha's Vineyard - just during the last couple of years. Anyone taking multiple trips to France during their college years gets very little sympathy from either my wife or I - especially if that person claims to be so desperately broke that she needed her $600/month stipend above all else.
2) I realize that before I make this next statement, it will be greeted with horror and anger from many of you. However, I have lived in Texas for >30 years since graduating from Cal and my wife is a native Texan and southern conservative Christian lady. Thus, our frame of reference will be different from many of you on this board. Having said that ... What on earth is PC wearing in most of the IG pictures? If that combination of leggings and tank top (in the pic of her on the campus grass) is what she wore to her "job", then she should have been asked to change her outfit. That clothing is acceptable work attire only if you are a prostitute or stripper. I don't believe she is either of those.
Now, shame on the Cal AD if they don't understand they are running a multi-million dollar business and don't have employee handbooks, dress codes, etc. I hope they are smarter than that. Now, if they have no handbook, no published dress code, and enforced an ad-hoc dress code upon PC individually while allowing others to not adhere to this dress code - then SHAME ON THE CAL AD. I would recommend a dress code for ALL GENDERS (see how I included you nice California peeps there?) as follows:
+ Loose fitting Cal Polo Shirt (provided by employer)
+ Loose fitting Cal Shorts, no higher than 4 " above the knee (provided by employer)
+ If employee is cold, then tight fitting leggings or long sleeve shirts are acceptable attire for work - IF WORN UNDERNEATH THE REQUIRED ATTIRE (such additional cold weather attire to be provided by employee)
You put this dress code in the employee handbook that is signed by employee at time of employment. Why is this difficult? Truly these people running Cal AD have to be this smart, yes? SMDH....
Sorry, but this is no different from your position in your first post where you speculated. You weren't there either, yet you conclude she's more believable than not because she supposedly has nothing to gain. That is pure speculation. I see the ludicrousness of some of her other statements, put them in the context of reasonably common every day male / female interactions and conclude there's more to the story. Another poster spelled it out for us more clearly with the discussion of how common it is for a female who is supposedly afraid of someone to 1) tell her mom she is going to be gone for the entire night, 2) go to the hotel room at night and 3) lie down on the bed. If you can't see those facts and have real questions, much less draw some very basic common sense conclusions ...I don't know what to tell you.Another Bear said:Sorry but your gut means nothing in this case. You weren't there, you don't know her or the coach. Basing a gut instinct on heresay, interwebz fodder and before any real info is projection at best. You're speculating on a bunch of stuff...and the question is why are you speculating? My point is, I don't know what happened but clearly she gains nothing from this "exercise". I mean look at the hate and name calling already being spewed. What's the point?tequila4kapp said:I completely disagree. In this current environment of "always believe the women" we are invited to check our brain at the door and not use common sense or critical thinking.Another Bear said:
Agree, too early to judge or even analyze. I will say three things however:
a) False reporting is rare vs. real reports, like single digit % but when it happens it gets BIG press.
b) Most people never report this stuff, something like 80% never say anything.
c) Very little to gain by reporting, much to lose...which relates to b. Seems almost a no-win situation.
At this point, I'm going to give the intern the benefit of the doubt because she stands to gain nothing, could even hijjack her career, life. Let the investigation happen. I see no gain here except to help stop it. As for "it doesn't sound right"...toss that out the window.
Do you guys remember the 3-5 Cal students who sued UC because of the response/cover up to sexual harassment and rape? They did that after reporting...and they had to sue? None of this bodes well.
It is perfectly reasonable to question things like her going to the office inside the stadium at midnight while drunk, leaving her mother behind to meet a coach in his hotel room at night and being upset that a person likes your social media posts of yourself in a bikini. (Those invitations, if they happened, were horribly wrong. But the flip side has to be acknowledged too - what the hell is the women thinking going to meet them at those hours and locations? Under what circumstance does a hydration expert - water person - ever need to meet a coach in a hotel room? Is it even remotely believable that a student would seek help with an economics class from a football coach at midnight? Come on, there's some big self serving BS with her story).
My gut tells me there may have been sexual acts which the men believed to be consensual. On the whole I don't think most men say things like "I'm going to treat you like the hoe you are" just completely out of the blue. I won't be surprised if there are very different elements to this story from others.
Whatever...there are no winners here, only losers. Have a nice day.
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Or you are a dad. We have made it VERY clear to SCT Jr. (the girl one) that she is NOT to leave the house looking like a stripper unless....well....she doesn't want to ever leave the house until her 18th birthday.txwharfrat said:
I put this on the BI thread as well, but I thought I would take my chances on Growls...
My wife and I looked at some of this information online before going to work today. After reviewing the accusers FB post and online presence on IG, two things seem very very clear to both of us:
2) I realize that before I make this next statement, it will be greeted with horror and anger from many of you. However, I have lived in Texas for >30 years since graduating from Cal and my wife is a native Texan and southern conservative Christian lady. Thus, our frame of reference will be different from many of you on this board. Having said that ... What on earth is PC wearing in most of the IG pictures? I
Some interesting messages and ads showing up when you access her Instagram account. From looking for other cal employees harassed by employees (to have them contact her legal team) to a message claiming "the stadium will be empty if cal athletics doesn't act".
But yeah, I thought what she was wearing is typical attire especially if you are on a beach, let's not be prudes ....but struggling student, no way.
But yeah, I thought what she was wearing is typical attire especially if you are on a beach, let's not be prudes ....but struggling student, no way.
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The amount of fixation over what she's wearing on her IG is exactly what's wrong with this situation. Why the hell would any of that excuse a person harrassing her?
What? You mean there's knuckledragging going on around here?packawana said:
The amount of fixation over what she's wearing on her IG is exactly what's wrong with this situation. Why the hell would any of that excuse a person harrassing her?
Like.no.way.
It's funny, when a man gets shot in the head, ass or arm...no one asks or discusses what he's wearing. When an inmate gets raped in the shower...again, no one asks or discusses what he's wearing.
But of course it matters here because some perceive this as personal to them or their belief systems.
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Good job Dad!!!socaltownie said:Or you are a dad. We have made it VERY clear to SCT Jr. (the girl one) that she is NOT to leave the house looking like a stripper unless....well....she doesn't want to ever leave the house until her 18th birthday.txwharfrat said:
I put this on the BI thread as well, but I thought I would take my chances on Growls...
My wife and I looked at some of this information online before going to work today. After reviewing the accusers FB post and online presence on IG, two things seem very very clear to both of us:
2) I realize that before I make this next statement, it will be greeted with horror and anger from many of you. However, I have lived in Texas for >30 years since graduating from Cal and my wife is a native Texan and southern conservative Christian lady. Thus, our frame of reference will be different from many of you on this board. Having said that ... What on earth is PC wearing in most of the IG pictures? I
You missed the two key points:packawana said:
The amount of fixation over what she's wearing on her IG is exactly what's wrong with this situation. Why the hell would any of that excuse a person harrassing her?
1) Her IG feed doesn't jive with her "poverty" story in the FB post
2) It should have been OK for a staff member to ask her to wear something else (as long as EVERYONE in EVERY GENDER was being treated the same way).
I never wanted to insinuate that she brought this on herself by what she was wearing and I'm sorry it came across that way. You can never "blame the victim". My point was that her outfit was NOT APPROPRIATE for work. Period. If she wore what she wore in that picture on campus to work - then she should have been asked to change clothes. But, so should ALL EMPLOYEES wearing similar outfits.
This may be the rub - if she was indeed singled out, then this is WRONG on every level.
It doesn't, but you don't even know if anyone harassed her. Some folks may think everything is black and white, but others have the ability to think critically, observe context, and discuss without making finite statements.packawana said:
The amount of fixation over what she's wearing on her IG is exactly what's wrong with this situation. Why the hell would any of that excuse a person harrassing her?
I'm responding to you BG, but this isn't aimed at you. I AM picking on one phrase in your post as I think it is representative of a ton of posts here. That phrase is "I find it hard to believe..." I'm seeing this sentiment on both sides. Relatively neutral posts arguing we wait and see followed by a "I find it hard to believe" statement.BearGoggles said:
There have been several posts indicating that the women's story should be believed because false reports of crimes - particularly sexual harassment and rape - are rare. Most claims are true, but many are not.
I think in today's world, it is not accurate to suggest that a claimed victim has nothing to gain. Aside from potential legal recoveries (which have always been available), in today's world a claimed victim gets a ton of attention, the very coveted victim status, and an opportunity to promote an agenda (or in some cases, exact vengeance and/or revenge). The [url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/22/jussie-smollett-attack-hoax-allegation-bogus-police-reports-real-harm/2936672002/][/url]Jussie Smollett episode is only the most recent example. Understandably, many of us can't fathom that a famous relatively wealthy person would make a false claim. Yet is seems almost certain he did.
[url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/22/jussie-smollett-attack-hoax-allegation-bogus-police-reports-real-harm/2936672002/][/url]
There is reporting that false claims are more common than thought. In addition, many of the Title IX claims being litigated in courts on a nationwide basis have shown that the claims are sometimes made with improper motive (i.e., claims made after consensual relationships ended badly).
In this case (every case), the woman's claims should be fully investigated. But it sure seems that there's more to the story. I'm open to all possibilities, but I find it very difficult to believe that complaints were submitted to (and received by) JW or Cal admin and ignored.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/7/false-sex-assault-reports-not-rare-reported-studie/
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/another-sexual-assault-acquittal-reaffirms-the-need-to-believeevidence/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/17/sexual-assault-allegations-wait-facts-former-prosecutor-column/1659190002/
I'm sorry, if you live in this world, I find it hard to believe that any of you are so out of it that you still find anything hard to believe.
I find it hard to believe that people do scumbag things like are accused here. But it happens all the time, so I don't find it hard to believe.
I find it hard to believe that people make false accusations. But it happens all the time, so I don't find it hard to believe.
I find it hard to believe that smart people who receive these reports don't handle them properly, but it happens all the time, so I don't find it hard to believe.
I find it hard to believe (and frankly it hurts my heart) that any woman would feel such lack of empowerment to essentially not stand up to bullying to the point where they go to parties or others hotel rooms, but it happens all the time, so I don't find it hard to believe.
I don't find her story hard to believe. I don't find the possibility that she has made it up or exaggerated it hard to believe. I don't find the concept that Cal has done everything correctly hard to believe. I don't find the idea that Cal has failed miserably hard to believe. All of this has been seen over and over.
So here is what I'm going to do until I find out more. I'm going to treat this woman as if she is telling the truth. I'm going to treat the accused as if they are telling the truth.
And I'm going to submit to all of you that no one here is neutral. I think it is safe to say we all hope this is untrue. No one wants to think a young woman went through this. No one wants to think any of our representatives would do this. And let's face it, this would be severely damaging to our football program, and we are on a Cal football board because we care about the fate of our football program. (I would submit that if somehow I could demonstrate that her claims being true would somehow lead to a Rose Bowl while not hurting the reputation of the program, she would garner a lot more sympathy). On the flip side, a lot of people are also inclined to take a societal problem and statistics and apply them to an individual case when that is just not appropropriate.
And I don't claim to be neutral on this issue. The discussions around all of these cases always makes me uncomfortable. Sexual harassment and assault are not false reported any more than any other crime. Which is to say about 6-10% false reporting rate. That is certainly high enough to take the possibility of a false report seriously whether it is a pickpocketing or a sexual assault. What makes me uncomfortable is the speculation as to reasons. Hell, I don't know why anyone would false report anything. But they do. However, the woman scorned, gold digger, **** stories that can be made up spill over on the accuser, and speculation is just not helpful either in the individual case or in the societal case.
As I said, I am not neutral. I have daughters. The statistics are frightening. And as a society we have just flat out been horrible in prosecuting these types of cases. Sexual assault is about the easiest crime to get away with. The percentage of perpetrators that see jail time is shockingly low. In sheer numbers, the number of victims who do not see justice just swamps the number of innocent people who ever see consequences for a crime they don't commit. We really need to do something about this.
However, societal statistics don't mean a damned thing when it comes to an individual case. We've got to stop treating them like they do. And individual cases don't mean squat when it comes to judging a societal problem. We can't put the baggage of all of our history on every individual case. The question of innocence or guilt of an individual accused has nothing to do with how many people were unjustly let go or convicted in the past.
What we can do is stop jumping to conclusions on both sides. What we really must do is start treating all sides with fairness. Stop defending people you think you know. Stop judging situations you think you understand.
In this case, she has made claims that should produce witnesses. They don't always, but I'm hoping that there are enough good people in this world that someone will support her if they can corroborate. Even more importantly, she has made claims of communications that should be provable if they occurred.
What I ask is that Cal do a neutral and competent investigation and for everyone to treat EVERYBODY in the situation with respect until we know more. There will be plenty of time to cast stones at the accuser if she is lying or the accused if she is telling the truth.
My comments about wanting attention had nothing to do with what her photos show.
Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
So you are free to speculate while others are not, then when called on it, punt to the generic "there are no winners, only losers" and wrap it all up with the disingenuous "Have a nice day"
I agree ... Whatever.
I agree ... Whatever.
I don't think her FB post indicated that she was in "poverty", just that she was a student on financial aid/possibly work-study who needed the job to help finance her studies. It's not as if working a job and going on trips are mutually exclusive, and if you take a look at the IG feed of an average modern-day sorority sister, you'll probably find a similar amount of vacationing and whatnot.txwharfrat said:You missed the two key points:packawana said:
The amount of fixation over what she's wearing on her IG is exactly what's wrong with this situation. Why the hell would any of that excuse a person harassing her?
1) Her IG feed doesn't jive with her "poverty" story in the FB post
2) It should have been OK for a staff member to ask her to wear something else (as long as EVERYONE in EVERY GENDER was being treated the same way).
I never wanted to insinuate that she brought this on herself by what she was wearing and I'm sorry it came across that way. You can never "blame the victim". My point was that her outfit was NOT APPROPRIATE for work. Period. If she wore what she wore in that picture on campus to work - then she should have been asked to change clothes. But, so should ALL EMPLOYEES wearing similar outfits.
This may be the rub - if she was indeed singled out, then this is WRONG on every level.
Although that part of her post could be there just as spin to garner sympathy, it's still plausible for her to want or need her job, especially if she (as she stated in her post) needed the experience to get ahead in a career in physical therapy.
Conformational Bias.....Be carefulTheSouseFamily said:
Sure, "many" felt that Blasey Ford was lying. And by "many", I mean 41% of those polled. But even more - 48% of those polled - thought she was telling the truth. The discrepancy was even more pronounced in California with a 60-35 split. Interesting that the numbers generally mirror political affiliation. Goes to show that the lens through which we view our affiliations dictates how we interpret information.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/409318-poll-more-americans-believe-christine-blasey-ford-than
https://abc7news.com/politics/poll-60-percent-of-ca-believes-christine-blasey-fords-story/4360725/
Nope...I'm opting out of the back and forth. Nothing will be resolved here. Proceed if you like...or whatever. I stand by my statement there are no winners, only losers. This is a classic no-win situation where everyone gets crap on them...the university, the accuser, the prep, the AD, the FB team. Have a nice day, seriously.Beardog26 said:
So you are free to speculate while others are not, then when called on it, punt to the generic "there are no winners, only losers" and wrap it all up with the disingenuous "Have a nice day"
I agree ... Whatever.
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We won't know till we know. Let's all relax a little here.
Amen to that and everything here. Lots of assumptions being tossed around in this thread (that frankly reveal more about the poster than this woman's situation).OaktownBear said:
I'm responding to you BG, but this isn't aimed at you. I AM picking on one phrase in your post as I think it is representative of a ton of posts here. That phrase is "I find it hard to believe..." I'm seeing this sentiment on both sides. Relatively neutral posts arguing we wait and see followed by a "I find it hard to believe" statement.
I'm sorry, if you live in this world, I find it hard to believe that any of you are so out of it that you still find anything hard to believe.
BS, you were exposed and tried to divert. Save me the "seriously" crap. Though I hope you're not harmed in any way, I don't care what kind of day you have.
Oh okay...in that case, back at you big boy. You BIG OL'; ^$%($#!)!!!
Keep it up however. No back and forth on the topic...but you, sure. Com'n.
Keep it up however. No back and forth on the topic...but you, sure. Com'n.
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Another Bear said:Nope...I'm opting out of the back and forth. Nothing will be resolved here. Proceed if you like...or whatever. I stand by my statement there are no winners, only losers. This is a classic no-win situation where everyone gets crap on them...the university, the accuser, the prep, the AD, the FB team. Have a nice day, seriously.Beardog26 said:
So you are free to speculate while others are not, then when called on it, punt to the generic "there are no winners, only losers" and wrap it all up with the disingenuous "Have a nice day"
I agree ... Whatever.
Time for a musical interlude again:
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
... and even then we may not "KNOW"....NYCGOBEARS said:
We won't know till we know. Let's all relax a little here.
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Fyght4Cal said:There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or attention-seeking in her Instagram. Unless it's being judged by an extreme religious conservative. A young SoCal woman in a bikini? Oh, the humanity!NVBear78 said:flounder said:i agree, she sounds like an absolute nut job based on her decision to go to the hotel room and to the party. she is an adult and chose to start drinking the tequila. what kind of sane and rational adult would go to a party filled with people she feels uncomfortable around and starts binge drinking.TonyTiger said:
I'm sorry but I didn't read any further after she said she met a man at midnight who she felt was a sicko and stocking her. Its nonsensical. No woman would do that. I'm not saying she's lying but I had to reread it three times before simply moving on.
I did read a snippet somewhere else where she said she's dealing with mental illness, now that might explain why she went there for her mental illness would not allow her to think clearly and she was processing information wrong, either way don't they do background checks and wouldn't it not say somewhere that she's dealing with mental issues thus a high profile employer would probably not hire her.
If she's definitely got mental issues then I definitely side with her for it makes everything worst for she had the same ability to make major decisions as a child thus why she kept making wrong ones. Her mental illness actually makes this quite worst than simple Sexual Harassment.
Who hired her without talking to her fellow players I bet they knew based on her openness to admit it now.
based on the info she gave I'm betting its a former WR coach.
that being said, hopefully wilcox and knowlton did what they are legally and morally required to do.
If you look at her profile on social media and the multitude of scantily clad and suggestive pictures she is still posting you will see she is seeking attention. Amazing to see her also using social media to troll for her coming lawsuit, is that what what plaintiff sexual harassment lawyers really encourage now?
you're kidding, right?
oskioski said:Fyght4Cal said:There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or attention-seeking in her Instagram. Unless it's being judged by an extreme religious conservative. A young SoCal woman in a bikini? Oh, the humanity!NVBear78 said:flounder said:i agree, she sounds like an absolute nut job based on her decision to go to the hotel room and to the party. she is an adult and chose to start drinking the tequila. what kind of sane and rational adult would go to a party filled with people she feels uncomfortable around and starts binge drinking.TonyTiger said:
I'm sorry but I didn't read any further after she said she met a man at midnight who she felt was a sicko and stocking her. Its nonsensical. No woman would do that. I'm not saying she's lying but I had to reread it three times before simply moving on.
I did read a snippet somewhere else where she said she's dealing with mental illness, now that might explain why she went there for her mental illness would not allow her to think clearly and she was processing information wrong, either way don't they do background checks and wouldn't it not say somewhere that she's dealing with mental issues thus a high profile employer would probably not hire her.
If she's definitely got mental issues then I definitely side with her for it makes everything worst for she had the same ability to make major decisions as a child thus why she kept making wrong ones. Her mental illness actually makes this quite worst than simple Sexual Harassment.
Who hired her without talking to her fellow players I bet they knew based on her openness to admit it now.
based on the info she gave I'm betting its a former WR coach.
that being said, hopefully wilcox and knowlton did what they are legally and morally required to do.
If you look at her profile on social media and the multitude of scantily clad and suggestive pictures she is still posting you will see she is seeking attention. Amazing to see her also using social media to troll for her coming lawsuit, is that what what plaintiff sexual harassment lawyers really encourage now?
you're kidding, right?
1. I thought Instagram Stories disappear after 24 hours. Unless she wrote that in the past 24 hours or saved it?!?!
2. Wouldn't coaches be working at midnight. Or it feels like those offices wouldnt' be completely vacant at midnight. What about janitors?
is that real?oskioski said:Fyght4Cal said:There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or attention-seeking in her Instagram. Unless it's being judged by an extreme religious conservative. A young SoCal woman in a bikini? Oh, the humanity!NVBear78 said:flounder said:i agree, she sounds like an absolute nut job based on her decision to go to the hotel room and to the party. she is an adult and chose to start drinking the tequila. what kind of sane and rational adult would go to a party filled with people she feels uncomfortable around and starts binge drinking.TonyTiger said:
I'm sorry but I didn't read any further after she said she met a man at midnight who she felt was a sicko and stocking her. Its nonsensical. No woman would do that. I'm not saying she's lying but I had to reread it three times before simply moving on.
I did read a snippet somewhere else where she said she's dealing with mental illness, now that might explain why she went there for her mental illness would not allow her to think clearly and she was processing information wrong, either way don't they do background checks and wouldn't it not say somewhere that she's dealing with mental issues thus a high profile employer would probably not hire her.
If she's definitely got mental issues then I definitely side with her for it makes everything worst for she had the same ability to make major decisions as a child thus why she kept making wrong ones. Her mental illness actually makes this quite worst than simple Sexual Harassment.
Who hired her without talking to her fellow players I bet they knew based on her openness to admit it now.
based on the info she gave I'm betting its a former WR coach.
that being said, hopefully wilcox and knowlton did what they are legally and morally required to do.
If you look at her profile on social media and the multitude of scantily clad and suggestive pictures she is still posting you will see she is seeking attention. Amazing to see her also using social media to troll for her coming lawsuit, is that what what plaintiff sexual harassment lawyers really encourage now?
you're kidding, right?
oskioski said:Fyght4Cal said:There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or attention-seeking in her Instagram. Unless it's being judged by an extreme religious conservative. A young SoCal woman in a bikini? Oh, the humanity!NVBear78 said:flounder said:i agree, she sounds like an absolute nut job based on her decision to go to the hotel room and to the party. she is an adult and chose to start drinking the tequila. what kind of sane and rational adult would go to a party filled with people she feels uncomfortable around and starts binge drinking.TonyTiger said:
I'm sorry but I didn't read any further after she said she met a man at midnight who she felt was a sicko and stocking her. Its nonsensical. No woman would do that. I'm not saying she's lying but I had to reread it three times before simply moving on.
I did read a snippet somewhere else where she said she's dealing with mental illness, now that might explain why she went there for her mental illness would not allow her to think clearly and she was processing information wrong, either way don't they do background checks and wouldn't it not say somewhere that she's dealing with mental issues thus a high profile employer would probably not hire her.
If she's definitely got mental issues then I definitely side with her for it makes everything worst for she had the same ability to make major decisions as a child thus why she kept making wrong ones. Her mental illness actually makes this quite worst than simple Sexual Harassment.
Who hired her without talking to her fellow players I bet they knew based on her openness to admit it now.
based on the info she gave I'm betting its a former WR coach.
that being said, hopefully wilcox and knowlton did what they are legally and morally required to do.
If you look at her profile on social media and the multitude of scantily clad and suggestive pictures she is still posting you will see she is seeking attention. Amazing to see her also using social media to troll for her coming lawsuit, is that what what plaintiff sexual harassment lawyers really encourage now?
you're kidding, right?
Why is the timestamp 3:45?
oskioski said:Fyght4Cal said:There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or attention-seeking in her Instagram. Unless it's being judged by an extreme religious conservative. A young SoCal woman in a bikini? Oh, the humanity!NVBear78 said:flounder said:i agree, she sounds like an absolute nut job based on her decision to go to the hotel room and to the party. she is an adult and chose to start drinking the tequila. what kind of sane and rational adult would go to a party filled with people she feels uncomfortable around and starts binge drinking.TonyTiger said:
I'm sorry but I didn't read any further after she said she met a man at midnight who she felt was a sicko and stocking her. Its nonsensical. No woman would do that. I'm not saying she's lying but I had to reread it three times before simply moving on.
I did read a snippet somewhere else where she said she's dealing with mental illness, now that might explain why she went there for her mental illness would not allow her to think clearly and she was processing information wrong, either way don't they do background checks and wouldn't it not say somewhere that she's dealing with mental issues thus a high profile employer would probably not hire her.
If she's definitely got mental issues then I definitely side with her for it makes everything worst for she had the same ability to make major decisions as a child thus why she kept making wrong ones. Her mental illness actually makes this quite worst than simple Sexual Harassment.
Who hired her without talking to her fellow players I bet they knew based on her openness to admit it now.
based on the info she gave I'm betting its a former WR coach.
that being said, hopefully wilcox and knowlton did what they are legally and morally required to do.
If you look at her profile on social media and the multitude of scantily clad and suggestive pictures she is still posting you will see she is seeking attention. Amazing to see her also using social media to troll for her coming lawsuit, is that what what plaintiff sexual harassment lawyers really encourage now?
you're kidding, right?
YOU'RE kidding, right? That's fake.
No, of course not. (1) That's not her username; (2) "paigefinstacorn" is obviously fake (finsta); (3) It even says "meme".NYCGOBEARS said:is that real?oskioski said:Fyght4Cal said:There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or attention-seeking in her Instagram. Unless it's being judged by an extreme religious conservative. A young SoCal woman in a bikini? Oh, the humanity!NVBear78 said:flounder said:i agree, she sounds like an absolute nut job based on her decision to go to the hotel room and to the party. she is an adult and chose to start drinking the tequila. what kind of sane and rational adult would go to a party filled with people she feels uncomfortable around and starts binge drinking.TonyTiger said:
I'm sorry but I didn't read any further after she said she met a man at midnight who she felt was a sicko and stocking her. Its nonsensical. No woman would do that. I'm not saying she's lying but I had to reread it three times before simply moving on.
I did read a snippet somewhere else where she said she's dealing with mental illness, now that might explain why she went there for her mental illness would not allow her to think clearly and she was processing information wrong, either way don't they do background checks and wouldn't it not say somewhere that she's dealing with mental issues thus a high profile employer would probably not hire her.
If she's definitely got mental issues then I definitely side with her for it makes everything worst for she had the same ability to make major decisions as a child thus why she kept making wrong ones. Her mental illness actually makes this quite worst than simple Sexual Harassment.
Who hired her without talking to her fellow players I bet they knew based on her openness to admit it now.
based on the info she gave I'm betting its a former WR coach.
that being said, hopefully wilcox and knowlton did what they are legally and morally required to do.
If you look at her profile on social media and the multitude of scantily clad and suggestive pictures she is still posting you will see she is seeking attention. Amazing to see her also using social media to troll for her coming lawsuit, is that what what plaintiff sexual harassment lawyers really encourage now?
you're kidding, right?
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