OFFICIAL BEARINSIDER WARRIORS PLAYOFF THREAD

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sonofabear51
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Lot of home cooking' going on here, IMHO
Start Slowly and taper off
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Fox is an aficionado of the Keith Smith stop and pop.
The game stats are fairly even but Warriors shooting the 3 ball at higher %.
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Even more home cooking'. Don't like that call
Start Slowly and taper off
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Sabonis is a drama queen. Wes Unseld would have him out of a game in 2 minutes nursing his bruised mangina.
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"F@UCK!"

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Witnessing the end of a semi-dynasty? Even if they somehow get past the Kings, I'm not sure how long the Warriors can keep this up. And with this aging core, maybe time to start fresh.
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Kings seem like the better team. It seems more likely they are going to get a score than the Warriors a stop when it matters.
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Mitchell did a great job on Curry- no easy looks from 3. They'll let him drive all night. Kings bench/ depth/ speed much better now. Fun series
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Lakers fan here. There was talk the Lakers wanted the 6 seed to get Sacramento. If they get passed Memphis they may regret wanting that because the Kings look damn good.

Agree with the sentiments above that GS just looks like they are a touch on the downside of this run…but that could be more about Sactown being really good than anything else. Also, the discussion might be different if Dramond doesn't make an idiot move that really hurts the team.
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philbert said:

Tonight's Dubs game is on TNT. If you missed the Dr. Pimple Popper commercials yesterday, I'm sure they will be running non-stop again tonight.....


I chose to watch Bob and Kelena call the game on NBCSportsBayArea.
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concordtom said:

philbert said:

Tonight's Dubs game is on TNT. If you missed the Dr. Pimple Popper commercials yesterday, I'm sure they will be running non-stop again tonight.....


I chose to watch Bob and Kelena call the game on NBCSportsBayArea.
TNT must have gotten lots of complaints. I didn't see that commercial once after seeing it ad nauseum yesterday.
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Big C said:


Witnessing the end of a semi-dynasty? Even if they somehow get past the Kings, I'm not sure how long the Warriors can keep this up. And with this aging core, maybe time to start fresh.


"We've crushed them on the basketball court, and we're going to for years because of the way we've built this team," he said. But what really set the franchise apart, he said, was the way it operated as a business. "We're light-years ahead of probably every other team in structure, in planning, in how we're going to go about things," he said. "We're going to be a handful for the rest of the N.B.A. to deal with for a long time."
-What Happened When Venture Capitalists Took Over the Golden State Warriors By Bruce Schoenfeld, NY Times, March 30, 2016

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bearister said:

Big C said:


Witnessing the end of a semi-dynasty? Even if they somehow get past the Kings, I'm not sure how long the Warriors can keep this up. And with this aging core, maybe time to start fresh.


"We've crushed them on the basketball court, and we're going to for years because of the way we've built this team," he said. But what really set the franchise apart, he said, was the way it operated as a business. "We're light-years ahead of probably every other team in structure, in planning, in how we're going to go about things," he said. "We're going to be a handful for the rest of the N.B.A. to deal with for a long time."
-What Happened When Venture Capitalists Took Over the Golden State Warriors By Bruce Schoenfeld, NY Times, March 30, 2016



Draft well (Draymond, Curry, Klay), make opportunistic trades (KD, Wiggins), massively go over the salary cap even if it means paying tremendous penalties.

Yeah, nobody's ever run an organization that way. The venture capitalists are BRILLIANT!

Note - the Dubs are something like .500 since KD left.
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These are the smartest guys in the room who banked at Silicon Valley.
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Games like last night are renewing faith in the nba. I felt like the calls were tilted toward the Warriors, but others feel the opposite so I guess it cancels out. I do feel like Green deserved a flagrant 2 but Sabonis did, too, for the grabbing the leg. Kings got lucky there. On the flip side, Green purposely allowed his "momentum" to knock Sabonis over earlier and that call should have stood. Also, Curry clearly charged and that heel was off the wood. There was nothing on the paint of the circle and that call shouldn't have been overturned either, imo. If it's the plane of the arc and not the actual physical contact, fine, but that's not how the announcers described the rule. Kings got hosed on that very same call in game 1, too. I hate that stupid arc. A charge should be a charge, plain and simple. Kings shot like absolute hot garbage most of the game, including from the line, but this time, they played harder and wanted it more. I'm sure the Ws will take game 3. Probably all of the home games. They want this thing to go 7. Word is getting out and there's no excitement like this matchup, anywhere. What would be awesome is Kings/Lakers on round 2.
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Warriors have been out of sync all year and these playoff games are no different. Kings seem to want it more, and why wouldn't they?

Assuming they lose this series, am I mad at the front office? Not really. They won the whole damn thing last year! Repeating is hard.
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bearister said:

Big C said:


Witnessing the end of a semi-dynasty? Even if they somehow get past the Kings, I'm not sure how long the Warriors can keep this up. And with this aging core, maybe time to start fresh.


"We've crushed them on the basketball court, and we're going to for years because of the way we've built this team," he said. But what really set the franchise apart, he said, was the way it operated as a business. "We're light-years ahead of probably every other team in structure, in planning, in how we're going to go about things," he said. "We're going to be a handful for the rest of the N.B.A. to deal with for a long time."
-What Happened When Venture Capitalists Took Over the Golden State Warriors By Bruce Schoenfeld, NY Times, March 30, 2016



People keep throwing this around as an example of unearned hubris, but . . . the franchise has won three titles (more than anyone else) since the interview was given. Was he wrong?
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sonofabear51 said:

Lot of home cooking' going on here, IMHO


You mean like how the W's were handing the ball to the home team?
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bearister said:

Sabonis is a drama queen. Wes Unseld would have him out of a game in 2 minutes nursing his bruised mangina.


His acting was entertaining, though, and sports is essentially paid entertainment. So, we appreciated it!
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Big C said:


Witnessing the end of a semi-dynasty? Even if they somehow get past the Kings, I'm not sure how long the Warriors can keep this up. And with this aging core, maybe time to start fresh.


Wasn't this clear all season?
And last season, too?

I think that's why the W's were so thrilled to have won last year! Even THEY knew it.
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bearister said:

Kings seem like the better team. It seems more likely they are going to get a score than the Warriors a stop when it matters.


Fox has been the inspiring storyline to me. Everything else is as expected. Warriors have been wildly inconsistent (and undersized) all season.
Rest of Kings are simply what a 3-seed should be, but Fox is a difference maker.
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sycasey said:

Warriors have been out of sync all year and these playoff games are no different. Kings seem to want it more, and why wouldn't they?

Assuming they lose this series, am I mad at the front office? Not really. They won the whole damn thing last year! Repeating is hard.

Exactly!

But it's going to be very interesting to see this off-season.
I bet they don't extend Klay or dray and we run same mediocre show next year, then it blows up. I don't see dray opting out.
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sycasey said:

bearister said:

Big C said:


Witnessing the end of a semi-dynasty? Even if they somehow get past the Kings, I'm not sure how long the Warriors can keep this up. And with this aging core, maybe time to start fresh.


"We've crushed them on the basketball court, and we're going to for years because of the way we've built this team," he said. But what really set the franchise apart, he said, was the way it operated as a business. "We're light-years ahead of probably every other team in structure, in planning, in how we're going to go about things," he said. "We're going to be a handful for the rest of the N.B.A. to deal with for a long time."
-What Happened When Venture Capitalists Took Over the Golden State Warriors By Bruce Schoenfeld, NY Times, March 30, 2016



People keep throwing this around as an example of unearned hubris, but . . . the franchise has won three titles (more than anyone else) since the interview was given. Was he wrong?


Well, they blew the wiseman pick BIG TIME, and as their stars age out, what do they have going next?

If you're "light years ahead", I think you should be able to have consistent returns year over year.
But it's looking more like it has all depended on the splash brothers.

Klay is past his prime.
Dray too.

Mike Brown and other wise coaches easily see that if you just harass Steph at half court, the team doesn't have any threat inside. That's not light years.

Let's face it, W's got lucky last year with the draw. Denver was decimated with injuries. Memphis lost Morant. #1 Suns lost to Dallas. And Middleton was gone from Bucks, and Durant was ousted by an inch.
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bearsandgiants said:

Games like last night are renewing faith in the nba. I felt like the calls were tilted toward the Warriors, but others feel the opposite so I guess it cancels out. I do feel like Green deserved a flagrant 2 but Sabonis did, too, for the grabbing the leg. Kings got lucky there. On the flip side, Green purposely allowed his "momentum" to knock Sabonis over earlier and that call should have stood. Also, Curry clearly charged and that heel was off the wood. There was nothing on the paint of the circle and that call shouldn't have been overturned either, imo. If it's the plane of the arc and not the actual physical contact, fine, but that's not how the announcers described the rule. Kings got hosed on that very same call in game 1, too. I hate that stupid arc. A charge should be a charge, plain and simple. Kings shot like absolute hot garbage most of the game, including from the line, but this time, they played harder and wanted it more. I'm sure the Ws will take game 3. Probably all of the home games. They want this thing to go 7. Word is getting out and there's no excitement like this matchup, anywhere. What would be awesome is Kings/Lakers on round 2.


I disagree on two calls you highlighted.
Green's butt bump out of bounds on sabonis is a clear non call! Great to correct that.
And sabonis clearly stepped up and under Steph as he had begun his upward move. Block!

I like it when refs call charges! They don't call them enough (contrary to W's announcer Bob Fitz's opinion), but sabonis blocked, not curry charge.

King deserved to win, again, and will win the series as I predicted.

Still watching, though. Happy for Sacramento kings, rooting for warriors. But they don't deserve it. They've been lax all year.
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tequila4kapp said:



Note - the Dubs are something like .500 since KD left.

So you're saying it comes down to star players?
What a surprise.
What's the Warriors record without Steph and KD?
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sycasey
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concordtom said:

sycasey said:

bearister said:

Big C said:


Witnessing the end of a semi-dynasty? Even if they somehow get past the Kings, I'm not sure how long the Warriors can keep this up. And with this aging core, maybe time to start fresh.


"We've crushed them on the basketball court, and we're going to for years because of the way we've built this team," he said. But what really set the franchise apart, he said, was the way it operated as a business. "We're light-years ahead of probably every other team in structure, in planning, in how we're going to go about things," he said. "We're going to be a handful for the rest of the N.B.A. to deal with for a long time."
-What Happened When Venture Capitalists Took Over the Golden State Warriors By Bruce Schoenfeld, NY Times, March 30, 2016



People keep throwing this around as an example of unearned hubris, but . . . the franchise has won three titles (more than anyone else) since the interview was given. Was he wrong?


Well, they blew the wiseman pick BIG TIME, and as their stars age out, what do they have going next?
I mean, this is just how the NBA works. You get a big star and a good core and have a championship window. Eventually the star leaves and you have to build one again. Some franchises can do it more quickly than others, but they all have to do it.
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Kings played better but Warriors could have played better. I blame Kerr for not bringing in DiVincenzo at point in the 4th quarter to free up Curry who didn't seem to have any open looks. There was no effort to get Thompson the ball either as he was heating up late.
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sycasey said:

concordtom said:

sycasey said:

bearister said:

Big C said:


Witnessing the end of a semi-dynasty? Even if they somehow get past the Kings, I'm not sure how long the Warriors can keep this up. And with this aging core, maybe time to start fresh.


"We've crushed them on the basketball court, and we're going to for years because of the way we've built this team," he said. But what really set the franchise apart, he said, was the way it operated as a business. "We're light-years ahead of probably every other team in structure, in planning, in how we're going to go about things," he said. "We're going to be a handful for the rest of the N.B.A. to deal with for a long time."
-What Happened When Venture Capitalists Took Over the Golden State Warriors By Bruce Schoenfeld, NY Times, March 30, 2016



People keep throwing this around as an example of unearned hubris, but . . . the franchise has won three titles (more than anyone else) since the interview was given. Was he wrong?


Well, they blew the wiseman pick BIG TIME, and as their stars age out, what do they have going next?
I mean, this is just how the NBA works. You get a big star and a good core and have a championship window. Eventually the star leaves and you have to build one again. Some franchises can do it more quickly than others, but they all have to do it.


Correct.
So there's nothing "light years ahead" about it.
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BearHunter said:

Kings played better but Warriors could have played better. I blame Kerr for not bringing in DiVincenzo at point in the 4th quarter to free up Curry who didn't seem to have any open looks. There was no effort to get Thompson the ball either as he was heating up late.


That's because the kings defend 4/5ths of the entire front court. The Warriors have no counter to this intense pressure. I keep thinking "just throw it to the big man on the block for an easy 1v1 pivot move. Alas, we have no size - both Sabonis and Len have inches and pounds over our guys, who are decidedly NOT post scorers!

Our disadvantage is by design.

….last season, some teams started ball hawking Curry all over. It worked. Sacramento is doing the same. Coach Mike Brown knows how to cut off the head of our snake. Because he used to coach us.
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concordtom said:

BearHunter said:

Kings played better but Warriors could have played better. I blame Kerr for not bringing in DiVincenzo at point in the 4th quarter to free up Curry who didn't seem to have any open looks. There was no effort to get Thompson the ball either as he was heating up late.


That's because the kings defend 4/5ths of the entire front court. The Warriors have no counter to this intense pressure. I keep thinking "just throw it to the big man on the block for an easy 1v1 pivot move. Alas, we have no size - both Sabonis and Len have inches and pounds over our guys, who are decidedly NOT post scorers!

Our disadvantage is by design.

….last season, some teams started ball hawking Curry all over. It worked. Sacramento is doing the same. Coach Mike Brown knows how to cut off the head of our snake. Because he used to coach us.
That may be true. Sac was effective last night because D Mitchell is such a good on the ball defender. He's probably elite in that regard. Fox is uber quick but he's not actually a great on the ball defender. He has quick hands for steals though
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is Sac pulling the broom out of the closet?
 
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