RJABear said:BearSD said:
From Twitter:
Beautiful. That made my day
Might have to plagiarize for the Arizona game, with "U of Pay" on the back.
Just make sure to keep it blue!
RJABear said:BearSD said:
From Twitter:
Beautiful. That made my day
Might have to plagiarize for the Arizona game, with "U of Pay" on the back.
Second this. And they are looking to roll heads in order to advance.concernedparent said:As much as we like to laugh about government workers hamming it up, and punching clock for a pension, federal attorneys don't **** around. They by and large come from top schools or are laterals from top firms, turn down far more lucrative careers purely for the chance to take on cases like this, have reach and resources second to none. If these coaches are as dirty as we think they are, this is going to be huge.Cal89 said:
Wow, just wow.
From someone who does investigations for my employer, and has for 15 or so years, I am quite happy to hear this news. I often pitch the schemes I uncover to the FBI, and then work closely with them over many months and years to get closure. I'm batting 1,000 as they have taken every case I've presented. Everything changes when the feds get involved. Whole new ballgame folks...
The Special Agents I've worked with are damn smart, thorough and have some serious authority of course. I've been in on search warrants with them, in interviews and proffer sessions, and when at the table with these guys, others get ratted-out and fast, grown men cry.
The NCAA? They likely don't know for a damn good reason. My guess is that they are on the radar too, if not already, for being complicit. Either way, they are the mouse watching the cheese and as we know, it's not always in their best interest to crack-down on such shenanigans.
Really curious where this goes...
I was wondering about that, given his name. His grandfather recruited some of the greatest basketball athletes Cal has had, but couldn't always figure out what to do with them. Also, some were not great in the classroom, I've been told.UrsaMajor said:
Now Padgett is left without assistant coaches and Louisville is "re-thinking" it's Adidas contract.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20935925/louisville-cardinals-place-assistant-coaches-kenny-johnson-jordan-fair-paid-leave
BTW: Cal connection--Coach Padgett is Jim Padgett's grandson.
FIFYJeff82 said:
I was wondering about that, given his name. His grandfather recruited some of the greatest basketball athletes Cal has had, but couldn't ever figure out what to do with them. Also, some were not great in the classroom, I've been told.
UrsaMajor said:
Now Padgett is left without assistant coaches and Louisville is "re-thinking" it's Adidas contract.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20935925/louisville-cardinals-place-assistant-coaches-kenny-johnson-jordan-fair-paid-leave
BTW: Cal connection--Coach Padgett is Jim Padgett's grandson.
Agree. Interestingly, there are 2 black head coaches in the Pac-12 (Wyking and Ernie Kent, although Ernie may not be long for the job). This is down from the time when Graham was at ASU, Romar at UDub, Johnson at Stanfurd, Patton at CU, Kent at UO, Robinson at OSU.EricBear said:
I think this is an important point and am glad JA Adande wrote about it:
https://theundefeated.com/features/black-assistant-coaches-get-hurt-the-most-in-recruiting-scandals/
Speaks to a lot of underlying issues in this scandal. Rick PItino, Sean Miller, Bruce Pearl, etc.: they all know what's going on.
>" . . . couldn't always figure out what to do . . . I've been told . . . "<Jeff82 said:I was wondering about that, given his name. His grandfather recruited some of the greatest basketball athletes Cal has had, but couldn't always figure out what to do with them. Also, some were not great in the classroom, I've been told.UrsaMajor said:
Now Padgett is left without assistant coaches and Louisville is "re-thinking" it's Adidas contract.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20935925/louisville-cardinals-place-assistant-coaches-kenny-johnson-jordan-fair-paid-leave
BTW: Cal connection--Coach Padgett is Jim Padgett's grandson.
You know where. N-I-K-E.EricBear said:
I wonder where Book Richardson, who had been with Miller for 11 years, was going to get that $150k?
One can guess the other programs likely to be implicated in this. Kansas would top my guess list. Followed closely by Syracuse, UNC, Kentucky, Oregon and Florida St.TheSouseFamily said:
Some interesting comments in the LA Times about the investigation.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-college-basketball-scandal-20171010-story,amp.html
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"Two people involved in the case, who spoke on the condition they not be identified because of the ongoing legal proceedings, said they expect more college coaches and others involved with grassroots basketball programs to be charged later this month.
"This is the tip of the iceberg," one of them said.
One former high-major college coach who retains deep connections in the business said he believes the case will lead to 40 to 50 job openings for head and assistant coaches by the spring."
MilleniaBear said:
Something is brewing about Kansas....anybody got the skinny?
No skinny but the numbers of top players that find their way to Lawrence Kansas to play hoops over the years is absolutely mind boggling. They have a long history and have fielded great teams. But starting with Wilt Chamberlain the Jayhawks seemingly attract an endless supply of top players to the school. Lets again remind ourselves of where the school is located. Lawrence Kansas. All these great HS players decide that Lawrence Kansas is where they want to be. Yeah sure.MilleniaBear said:
Something is brewing about Kansas....anybody got the skinny?
6956bear said:One can guess the other programs likely to be implicated in this. Kansas would top my guess list. Followed closely by Syracuse, UNC, Kentucky, Oregon and Florida St.TheSouseFamily said:
Some interesting comments in the LA Times about the investigation.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-college-basketball-scandal-20171010-story,amp.html
* * *
"Two people involved in the case, who spoke on the condition they not be identified because of the ongoing legal proceedings, said they expect more college coaches and others involved with grassroots basketball programs to be charged later this month.
"This is the tip of the iceberg," one of them said.
One former high-major college coach who retains deep connections in the business said he believes the case will lead to 40 to 50 job openings for head and assistant coaches by the spring."
They have tradition. Phog Allen, for whom Allen Fieldhouse is named, was coached by James Naismith, who invented the game. In his autobiography, Chamberlain said he never considered any West Coast schools, because at the time he believed their brand of basketball was inferior, something he said in the book he was mistaken about. (Cal played him under Newell, but lost.) I'm sorry, but your comment reeks of hoops ignorance.6956bear said:No skinny but the numbers of top players that find their way to Lawrence Kansas to play hoops over the years is absolutely mind boggling. They have a long history and have fielded great teams. But starting with Wilt Chamberlain the Jayhawks seemingly attract an endless supply of top players to the school. Lets again remind ourselves of where the school is located. Lawrence Kansas. All these great HS players decide that Lawrence Kansas is where they want to be. Yeah sure.MilleniaBear said:
Something is brewing about Kansas....anybody got the skinny?
Lots of places have tradition. John Wooden widely considered one of the greatest coaches ever established a tradition with an amazing number of championships. Yet in one of the greatest "open secrets" ever he had a bagman named Sam Gilbert help with developing that tradition. Coach Wooden wrote books and often spoke of the "pillars of success". Funny but I do not recall his bagman ever being mentioned as one of the pillars. College hoops has been dirty for a long, long time. Our own Golden Bears have some history in that area as well.Jeff82 said:They have tradition. Phog Allen, for whom Allen Fieldhouse is named, was coached by James Naismith, who invented the game. In his autobiography, Chamberlain said he never considered any West Coast schools, because at the time he believed their brand of basketball was inferior, something he said in the book he was mistaken about. (Cal played him under Newell, but lost.) I'm sorry, but your comment reeks of hoops ignorance.6956bear said:No skinny but the numbers of top players that find their way to Lawrence Kansas to play hoops over the years is absolutely mind boggling. They have a long history and have fielded great teams. But starting with Wilt Chamberlain the Jayhawks seemingly attract an endless supply of top players to the school. Lets again remind ourselves of where the school is located. Lawrence Kansas. All these great HS players decide that Lawrence Kansas is where they want to be. Yeah sure.MilleniaBear said:
Something is brewing about Kansas....anybody got the skinny?
Well the ADs are arguing that because they benefit (tremendously).UrsaMajor said:
There was an article in the Chronic today including interviews w/ MW and Bernard Muir (AD at Stanfurd). Not terribly enlightening--other than Stanfurd refused to say what their Nike contract was, and MW said that eliminating all apparel company contracts wouldn't work. Muir did say, however, that he thought the problem was "much less widespread" than the media think. I guess one way to avoid breathing the smoke is to keep your head firmly in the sand.