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I tell you, it's going to be hard for many of us to soldier on in this world, without the great Meat Loaf.

Related: In somewhat less politically correct times, there was this kinda fat chick in college who we used to call Meat Loaf. I probably hadn't thought of her for 30+ years. This brings to mind that thread here recently about how many years will it be before there's a regular female poster on this forum. I'd take the over.

Really though, what a fantastic name, Meat Loaf. Sounds funny, visualizes funny, the works. I can't stop laughing, just thinking about it.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

DiabloWags said:

Me

He chose Paradise By The Ventilator Light. I'm sad to see him depart this mortal coil.
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Somewhere, Meat Loaf may well be laughing....
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Big C said:


I tell you, it's going to be hard for many of us to soldier on in this world, without the great Meat Loaf.

Related: In somewhat less politically correct times, there was this kinda fat chick in college who we used to call Meat Loaf. I probably hadn't thought of her for 30+ years. This brings to mind that thread here recently about how many years will it be before there's a regular female poster on this forum. I'd take the over.

Really though, what a fantastic name, Meat Loaf. Sounds funny, visualizes funny, the works. I can't stop laughing, just thinking about it.
When I think of Meat Loaf, I recall seeing an article about him in the New York Times where they referred to him as Mr. Loaf. It gave several of us a good laugh at the time. My wife told me yesterday that Eddie had died and it took me a few moments to make the connection to the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:


When I think of Meat Loaf, I recall seeing an article about him in the New York Times where they referred to him as Mr. Loaf. It gave several of us a good laugh at the time. My wife told me yesterday that Eddie had died and it took me a few moments to make the connection to the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
I saw Fight Club for the first time last night. I'm not all that into gratuitous violence and/or sex,****
but I'll gladly watch (and listen) to this film again. Mr. Pitt and Mr. Norton are fabulous, as is Mr. Loaf
in a much smaller role. Also, I've had a longtime crush on Helena Bonham Carter....so there's
that.

****I'm always up for gratuitous humor

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Out Of The Past said:

For years I had been hearing from many sources that the film "The 400 Blows" was a "do not miss" in French film history, indeed in all film history. After way too long, I finally watched it on "Kanopy", my local library streaming service. What they said is true. The grandfather of "this is how I grew up, this is what ordinary society looked like" films it is superb. Very glad I finally got to it.
Francois Truffaut, the director of "400 Blows", made several films based on his life, beginning with this film. They all starred Jean Pierre Leaud. "Stolen Kisses", and "Bed and Board" were two I remember, both much lighter, mostly romantic and somewhat comical, which I loved. A later film, "The Man Who Loved Women" was too close to home for me. I left the theater a changed man.
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You are a Renaissance Man. Equally comfortable analyzing a fast break and a French film.

When you look up the term Renaissance Man, there is a picture of Kris Kristofferson there. Most impressive resume I have ever seen….and he accomplished much of it stoned or drunk.

Kris Kristofferson - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kristofferson

1. While at Pomona College he wrote essays published in Atlantic Monthly;
2. In 1958 while at Pomona College appeared in Sports Illustrated's "Faces in the Crowd" on March 31 for his achievements in collegiate rugby union, American football, and track and field.
3. He graduated in 1958 with a Bachelor of Arts degree, summa cum laude, in literature. He was elected to Phi Beta Kappa his junior year.
4. Kristofferson earned a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University, studying at Merton College. While at Oxford, he was awarded a Blue for boxing, played rugby for his college, and began writing songs. Kristofferson graduated with a B.Phil. degree in English literature.
5. Kristofferson, under pressure from his family, joined the U.S. Army, was commissioned as a second lieutenant and attained the rank of captain. He became a helicopter pilot after receiving flight training at Fort Rucker, Alabama. He also completed Ranger School. During the early 1960s, he was stationed in West Germany as a member of the 8th Infantry.
6. The details of his successful successful music and film career are too lengthy to summarize here.
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bearister said:

You are a Renaissance Man. Equally comfortable analyzing a fast break and a French film.

When you look up the term Renaissance Man, there is a picture of Kris Kristofferson there. Most impressive resume I have ever seen….and he accomplished much of it stoned or drunk.

Kris Kristofferson - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kristofferson

1. While at Pomona College he wrote essays published in Atlantic Monthly;
2. In 1958 while at Pomona College appeared in Sports Illustrated's "Faces in the Crowd" on March 31 for his achievements in collegiate rugby union, American football, and track and field.
3. He graduated in 1958 with a Bachelor of Arts degree, summa cum laude, in literature. He was elected to Phi Beta Kappa his junior year.
4. Kristofferson earned a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University, studying at Merton College. While at Oxford, he was awarded a Blue for boxing, played rugby for his college, and began writing songs. Kristofferson graduated with a B.Phil. degree in English literature.
5. Kristofferson, under pressure from his family, joined the U.S. Army, was commissioned as a second lieutenant and attained the rank of captain. He became a helicopter pilot after receiving flight training at Fort Rucker, Alabama. He also completed Ranger School. During the early 1960s, he was stationed in West Germany as a member of the 8th Infantry.
6. The details of his successful successful music and film career are too lengthy to summarize here.

Thanks, Bearister, but you are too kind. Kristofferson is a true Renaissance man. He tried many paths and was an expert in several. I am chopped liver by comparison. I used to consider myself to be a "jack of all trades, master in none", but now I have lived long enough to be a little expert in some, I guess.

Here is another Renaissance Man, whom you may know, because I know you have in interest in jazz music. He was a helluva jazz man, and a Cal Alum to boot - Eddie Henderson.

Eddie was a guard on my first basketball team at Lowell High School in SF. I should have said I was a member of HIS team, as he was the star, while I sat at the far end of the bench. Eddie was named to the All-City team every year at Lowell, both in basketball and in track and field, where he was a sprinter or hurdler, and also tossed the shot put. He had this cool habit: In basketball, one of his traits was to chew on bubble gum during the game to keep his mouth from going dry. When he drove the lane, he used to start blowing a bubble, and as he got closer to the basket the bubble would get bigger. Just as he rose into the air for a floater, right as he let the shot go, he would suck the bubble back into his mouth, so it wouldn't pop, and he could go on chewing, as the ball went through the hoop.

Lowell was the best academic school in the City, and so students didn't have a lot of free time, but Eddie still managed to learn to become a figure skater on the ice, and won trophies, he was so good.

He met Louis Armstrong when he was 9, who gave him his first trumpet lesson, and then was mentored by Miles Davis (a friend of his mother). He went on to enroll at Cal, get a degree in Zoology, and then graduated from Howard Medical School. He eventually became a psychiatrist, while pursuing a career in music. He played for years with Herbie Hancock, and developed his own style.

In the 1970s or 1980s, I remember hearing that he was playing at the Both/And, a jazz club on Divisadero St. I had heard Miles Davis play there before. Eddie was by himself during a break, so I went over to talk with him. I was surprised that he remembered me, as we hadn't really been friends, only teammates many years before. He was really gracious, and he gave me one of his records. We talked for quite a while, reliving the old basketball days, and learning about his career. I should say careers, because not only did he produce a huge amount of recordings, but he continued to practice psychiatry. Some of his patients were musicians, Thellonius Monk for one.

There are lots of his recordings around, and some articles on his life. Here are two:

https://wusfjazz.org/trumpeter-eddie-henderson-at-80-a-renaissance-man/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Henderson_(musician)









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Wow! You just topped your Nate Thurmond story! Eddie is every bit as impressive as Kris. He clearly was a 10,000 Hour Club member…..and in more than one discipline.

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Wow, we went a whole week without any major deaths.

From Joan Didion on Dec. 23 to Louie Anderson on Jan. 21, there were so many iconic people dying.
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Every time I see that somebody has posted on this thread, I click on it to make sure I'm still alive.
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https://www.elephantjournal.com/2022/01/this-thich-nhat-hahn-poem-taught-me-mindful-drinking-donna-yates-ferris/

https://buddhism-guide.com/thich-nhat-hanh/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jan/28/personalised-playlists-online-dating-west-elm-caleb

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bearister said:

Wow! You just topped your Nate Thurmond story! Eddie is every bit as impressive as Kris. He clearly was a 10,000 Hour Club member…..and in more than one discipline.


Thanks. Eddie was only about 5-7 or 5-8, but he was the best basketball player in the school, IMO, and Tom Meschery of St Marys and Warriors fame was also a member of the studentbody, a 4-year starter on the varsity (and a high school All-American)

Not only that, but there was another jazz performer in the studentbody, who might have been in Eddie's Class or a year ahead of him, and you will likely know her as well, jazz singer Mary Stallings. I'd be pretty sure they knew each other. Mary has had an impressive career as well, and is still performing, at age 82, I believe.

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/mary-stallings-mn0000320763/biography

I can't leave the topic of jazz without mentioning a favorite of mine, Inez Jones, a jazz singer who lived in Oakland. When I was at Cal, I used to go sometimes over to a club on Union St in SF and listen to her. It was a club where minors could sometimes get in and hear a set or two. She's not as famous as Mary, but she was really good. "Love for sale" was one of her songs. A real tear-jerker.

https://www.jazzwax.com/2020/01/have-you-met-inez-jones.html
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okaydo said:

Wow, we went a whole week without any major deaths.

From Joan Didion on Dec. 23 to Louie Anderson on Jan. 21, there were so many iconic people dying.
R.I.P. Tommy

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bearister said:

Wow! You just topped your Nate Thurmond story! Eddie is every bit as impressive as Kris. He clearly was a 10,000 Hour Club member…..and in more than one discipline.


Thanks. Eddie was only about 5-7 or 5-8, but he was the best basketball player in the school, IMO, and Tom Meschery of St Marys and Warriors fame was also a member of the studentbody, a 4-year starter on the varsity (and a high school All-American)

Not only that, but there was another jazz performer in the studentbody, who might have been in Eddie's Class or a year ahead of him, and you will likely know her as well, jazz singer Mary Stallings. I'd be pretty sure they knew each other. Mary has had an impressive career as well, and is still performing, at age 82, I believe.

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/mary-stallings-mn0000320763/biography

I can't leave the topic of jazz without mentioning a favorite of mine, Inez Jones, a jazz singer who lived in Oakland. When I was at Cal, I used to go sometimes over to a club on Union St in SF and listen to her. It was a club where minors could sometimes get in and hear a set or two. She's not as famous as Mary, but she was really good. "Love for sale" was one of her songs. A real tear-jerker.

https://www.jazzwax.com/2020/01/have-you-met-inez-jones.html
I remember Inez and the jazz clubs in San Francisco. I believe one was the Blackhawk, can't remember other names at the moment. I recall about three clubs. The Blackhawk had a section screened off by wire mesh where those under legal drinking age could still hear the music and see the performers. Some referred to that section as the "turkey" section. After all, if you were really cool, you would score a fake ID somehow and get into the main room. I went there as a freshman, failed to score a fake ID, but wanted to hear the music anyway, sat in the "turkey" section. May have been Errol Garner on piano that night. Great music.
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All the guys I hung with made a communal purchase of Fakes from an entity called Nipco in Vegas via mail in 1973. All I remember is that my home address on it said Front Street, British Columbia.
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bearister said:

All the guys I hung with made a communal purchase of Fakes from an entity called Nipco in Vegas via mail in 1973. All I remember is that my home address on it said Front Street, British Columbia.
A fortunate man indeed, knew the right people at the right time. The rake ID business was still a few and far between business confined to Berkeley basements in 1961. The few I knew who had one (like 2 people), refused to reveal their sources. The Canadian DL seemed to be a preferred route to go, based on the assumption that few of those checking ID would know what a Canadian DL would actually look like. I believe Canada's DL's were issued by each Province.
By the time I reached my Junior year, one classmate had established his own business at making Canadian DL's in some obscure room somewhere. His method involved mounting a photographically enlarged copy of a Canadian DL to a wall as a backdrop for you to photographed in front of, while seated in the exact spot where the picture occurred on the DL. The enlarged backdrop was the size of a mural. The name and address lines had been blanked out to bed filled in with large type face. A picture of the whole set up, backdrop + human + large type, was taken in color, then developed and printed at the actual DL size. He then "stamped" it with a Canadian commemorative coin using an ink pad, leaving an image of Queen Elizabeth together with some inscription in Latin on the DL. It worked! Alas, too late for me. By then I was about 2 months away from my actual 21st. birthday, so I took a pass. Heard he did a thriving business with sorority women.
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CNN died.

The collapse of CNN is now complete: Nine-out-of-ten viewers, gone. Its top-rated anchor, Chris Cuomo, gone. Its network president, gone. Its integrity in shambles.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/592969-cnns-collapse-is-now-complete
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Syl Johnson, much-sampled blues, funk and soul singer, dies aged 85


https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/feb/06/syl-johnson-much-sampled-blues-funk-and-soul-singer-dies-aged-85?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/todd-gitlin-obit/


greatest Rock vocalist, bands Humble Pie, Small Faces . . . ?

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Jeremy Giambi

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Sad.

Breaking: Former MLB Player Jeremy Giambi Has Died (aol.com)
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RIP Betty Davis

Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
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Non foul play trauma to the back of the head in a hotel room. I have no memory of hearing about that one before.
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RIP Suresh Nawada. Died on the spot near Bommanahalli. Never got to see the Taj Mahal as he had dreamed of. Survived by wife and children.

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Chapman_is_Gone said:


RIP Suresh Nawada. Died on the spot near Bommanahalli. Never got to see the Taj Mahal as he had dreamed of. Survived by wife and children.

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I saw the Taj Majal.

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Me, too. I thought it was amazing and worth going far far out of the way to see.

It's a shame they never seem to have the surrounding fountains in working condition.
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Non foul play trauma to the back of the head in a hotel room. I have no memory of hearing about that one before.

Update:

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Question about Bob Saget autopsy results | Bear Insider


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The 10 year anniversary of Whitney's death, so I decided to revisit this thread


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