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The Byrds > The Doors

but Bing > David.

RIP.

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Bing was a mean drunk that beat his sons like a demon. Two of them committed suicide.

okaydo said:

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basically sucked ...guitar and drums pretty ok ...keyboard was awful ..his bass with left hand was abysmal, horrible ...square wheel bad ...and Morrison was no effing good as a singer or poet ..poser ....sorry https://t.co/XPzLQ6gLtf

— David Crosby (@thedavidcrosby) April 20, 2019

god I hope not !

— David Crosby (@thedavidcrosby) April 20, 2019

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Condolences to his family, friends and fans.

Photo Courtesy of Getty Images.#DavidCrosby

— The Doors (@TheDoors) January 20, 2023

For those who don't know: David Crosby's dad was Oscar-winning cinematographer Floyd Crosby, who filmed High Noon and these other films:

bearister said:

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Cal88 said:

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The Byrds > The Doors

but Bing > David.

RIP.

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Bing was a mean drunk that beat his sons like a demon. Two of them committed suicide.

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You might be right on this, I can't say I know much about his personal background, but Wikipedia doesn't agree with you:

"After Crosby's death, his eldest son, Gary, wrote a highly critical memoir, Going My Own Way (1983), depicting his father as cruel, cold, remote, and physically and psychologically abusive.
While acknowledging that corporal punishments took place, there were reports of all of Gary's immediate siblings distancing themselves from the abuse claims, either in public or in private.

Crosby's younger son Phillip disputed his brother Gary's claims about their father. Around the time Gary published his claims, Phillip stated to the press that "Gary is a whining, *****ing crybaby, walking around with a two-by-four on his shoulder and just daring people to nudge it off." Nevertheless, Phillip did not deny that Crosby believed in corporal punishment. In an interview with People magazine, Phillip stated that "we never got an extra whack or a cuff we didn't deserve".

Shortly before Gary's book was actually published, Lindsay said, "I'm glad [Gary] did it. I hope it clears up a lot of the old lies and rumors." Unlike Gary, Lindsay stated that he preferred to remember "all the good things I did with my dad and forget the times that were rough". "Lindsay Crosby supported his brother (Gary) at the time of its publication but had a tempered view of its revelations. 'I never expected affection from my father so it didn't bother me,' he once told an interviewer.'" However, after the book was published, Lindsay addressed the abuse claims and what the media had made out of them:

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He was a good father. It was a happy childhood. We had our differences, but we were raised to respect our parents, to do what they said. If we didn't, we got punished. As far as I know [Gary] wrote it because it was about himself and what he felt his life was about. I don't think it had anything to do with Daddy Dearest. I understand what he's trying to prove. I don't think he did anything wrong.

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Dennis Crosby reportedly "said his older brother (Gary) was the most severely treated of the four boys. 'He got the first licking, and we got the second.'"
Gary's first wife of 19 years, Barbara Cosentino, of whom Gary wrote in his book, "I could confide in her about Mom and Dad and my childhood", and with whom Gary stayed friendly after the divorce, stated:

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I do not know if what's in the book is true but he never said anything to me about whippings. I think it all got a little out of hand. I certainly never witnessed anything between him and his father. I couldn't believe it when I read the book because it just didn't sound like Gary. I can't pinpoint it. Gary said to me before I read it, "It's not the same book I wrote."

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Gary Crosby's adopted son, Steven Crosby, said in a 2003 interview:

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In the early years, I think, like any family you are going to butt heads with your mom, your dad and your brothers and sisters. I think there was some father-son stuff that everyone has. The book was I think an attempt of my dad to come to grips with some things in his life.

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Bing's younger brother, singer and jazz bandleader Bob Crosby, recalled at the time of Gary's revelations that Bing was a "disciplinarian", as their mother and father had been. He added, "We were brought up that way." In an interview for the same article, Gary clarified that Bing "was like a lot of fathers of that time. He was not out to be vicious, to beat children for his kicks."

The author of the most recent biography on Bing Crosby, Gary Giddins, claims that Gary Crosby's memoir is not reliable on many instances and cannot be trusted on the abuse stories."

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For those who don't know: David Crosby's dad was Oscar-winning cinematographer Floyd Crosby, who filmed High Noon and these other films:

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Here is the story in a 1970 issue of Life Magazine about Rock stars and their parents from which that photo of Crosby comes. I was was 15 or 16 at the time and vividly remember that article and the photos. It was a big deal for me seeing Clapton and Ginger Baker in the story since I was a Cream worshiper.

Clapton, Zappa, Elton John: Photos of Rock Stars With Their Parents


https://www.life.com/arts-entertainment/life-with-rock-stars-and-their-parents/

*Joe Cocker had some long @$$ hair there

David Crosby Remembers Jerry Garcia: 'He Was Always Chasing the Notes' - Variety


https://variety.com/2020/music/news/david-crosby-remembers-jerry-garcia-grateful-dead-anniversary-1234729939/

"He [Jerry Garcia] would walk in the room and, yeah, he would talk to you about regular s and he could be a regular guy and you could go have a meal or a beer. But what he really wanted to do was pick up the guitar. And the minute he and I started to play anything, it got good, right away, immediately which is not possible, all the time. But every single time that I sat down with him to play anything, it got magical. And you can't ignore a thing like that, if it happens right in front of you over and over again. .. I just was entranced by that.

….And trying to learn the Grateful Dead's music, you better be in the Grateful Dead for life if you want to learn that s. That is some complex s, and in odd time signatures and with all kinds of arrangement differences. Because they liked complex s. It makes it interesting for 'em. But trying to sit in with the Dead?

…… Did you ever hear what I think their kind of music is, what Jerry and Phil (Lesh) and them invented? Well, it's four running streams of melody at the same time. It's the lead guitar, the second guitar, the bass and the keyboard. They're all playing a melodic line all at the same time, all the time. That's Dixieland. The trombone and the clarinet and the trumpet and the sax, they're all playing melody at the same time. That's what the Grateful Dead is doing, playing four rambling, running, explosive, inventive lines of melody at the same time. I call it electronic Dixieland. I think nobody else ever invented it. They thought it up, and it works. It's a kind of jazz. It's a new kind of American music, same way bluegrass we thought up and jazz we thought up. The singer-songwriter bands expanding and extending themselves into jazz area of improvisation, that's the thing the Grateful Dead pioneered.

~ deadhead sub thread, Crosby Garcia Slick Kantner Perro sessions, Mountain Song, parts 2 & 3

After Jeff Beck's and David Crosby's passings, do you think some phone calls like this are being made among old Rockers:

When Roy Orbison died, George Harrison called Tom Petty and the first thing he said to Tom was: "Aren't you glad it wasn't you?" (Tom Petty in Martin Scorsese's documentary, George Harrison: Living in the Material World)


George Harrison: Living in the Material World (2011) - IMDb


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1113829/

Had to pay tribute to one of our all-time-great rockers and posters in the only appropriate way possible: by posting my new post about his posts (and his music) https://t.co/w5ic51vAP3

— Nitish Pahwa (@pahwa_nitish) January 20, 2023

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Almost cut my hair
It happened just the other day
It's gettin' kinda long
I coulda said it wasn't in my way
But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
Yes, I feel like I owe it to someone
Must be because I had a flu for Christmas
And I'm not feeling up to par
It increases my paranoia
Like looking at my mirror and seeing a police car
But I'm not giving in an inch to fear
'Cause I promised myself this year
I feel like I owe it to someone
When I finally get myself together
I'm going to get down in that sunny southern weather
And I'll find a place inside to laugh
Separate the wheat from the chaff
I feel like I owe it
To someone, yeah
Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: David Crosby

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The Complications of David Crosby (@hitsville - @vulture) https://t.co/WFURXhgmv6

— MusicREDEF (@MusicREDEF) January 20, 2023

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But fans didn't know that, far from his public image, Crosby was an entitled Hollywood rich kid with a moral screw or two loose. He contributed a just-this-side-of-toxic element to everything he joined and worked with, and only managed to be a success because of an undeniable voice that could meld effortlessly and alluringly with just about everyone he sang with. Crosby undermined his fellow members, fostered dissatisfaction for his own advantage, and was a compulsive manipulator. Beyond that, he wasn't really a guitarist and didn't write songs. The message from his fellow Byrd-mates, who knew him well, was with the exception of the crack about his singing right on the money.

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Crosby's personality and shiftiness mark the memories of the time. He had a natural charisma, an infectious enthusiasm, and a sense of humor. Still, sentences like "So and so was wary of Crosby … " appear again and again in histories of the era. Even by the standards of that colorful moment, Crosby's sex life, his drug use, and ever-present entourage drew attention.

An early sideman to Crosby was guitarist Don Felder, who would go on to join the Eagles and write the music to the Eagles' classic song "Hotel California." "David Crosby … was the first person I'd ever met who used excessive amounts of cocaine," Felder would write later, "and the energy that came off him in consequence was paranoid, tense, and fearful." He didn't treat women well, either. "David was charming around chicks," a scenester is quoted in Hoskyns's book. "But there was a revolving door with him one girl in, one girl out. And if a girl got pregnant, he was mean to her and dumped her."

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Even more cruelly, after so many years of bad behavior to his friends, bandmates, and family, he found himself isolated 60 years and a world away from the Laurel Canyon scene with a star or future star on every block. Near the end of his life, he acknowledged publicly, virtually all of the other artists he'd made his name with wouldn't talk to him anymore.

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Meh

Great Vulture article. Thanks for posting.

1. I always liked his backup vocal on this Gram Parsons Tribute album:



2. Dennis Hopper said David Crosby was his inspiration for the character Billy in Easy Rider.


3. In 1968, Stephen Stills went into a studio with only an acoustic guitar and recorded these two songs. Crosby added so much to both songs with his vocals on the CS&N debut album.





*The original version of The Return of the Grievous Angel with Gram and Emmylou Harris:



Keef and Gram:

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Sal was 78, and he died of cancer.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35497381/former-athletics-captain-brewers-gm-sal-bando-dies-78?platform=amp

Carl Reiner died in 2020, but they've opened a museum featuring his life.
Sunday Morning did a piece on it and some might consider it interesting reflection:

a queen died..

It was an immense pleasure to meet Annie Wersching, #StarTrekPicard's Borg Queen, at last year's Mission Chicago convention - our condolences to her family and friends.#AnnieWersching pic.twitter.com/lPZjUUJslL

— TrekCore.com 🖖 (@TrekCore) January 29, 2023

Annie Wersching Dies: Actress In ‘24’, ‘Bosch’ And ‘Timeless’ Was 45 https://t.co/X3HdomdzJh

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) January 29, 2023

Lisa Loring, dies at 64.
Complications from a stroke caused by smoking and high blood pressure.

She played Wednesday on the original "The Addams Family"

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CntOg6Jhjea/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Pro Skier Kyle Smaine died while skiing in Japan after an avalanche threw the ski champ 50 feet, killing him. Kyle was 31 years old. https://t.co/NnwmcgxdZt

— TMZ (@TMZ) January 30, 2023

The artist who writes fake obituaries of icons, from Dolly Parton to Greta Thunberg


https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/jan/30/dolly-parton-greta-thunberg-adam-mcewen-fake-obituaries-warhol-sherman?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

DiabloWags said:

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Lisa Loring, dies at 64.
Complications from a stroke caused by smoking and high blood pressure.

She played Wednesday on the original "The Addams Family"

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of the main crew only Gomez is not dead yet, still working too..
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057729/mediaindex?refine=nm0040014&ref_=ttmi_ref_nm
https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch/?sort=year&explore=title_type&role=nm0040014&ref_=nm_ql_flmg_1

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DiabloWags said:

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Lisa Loring, dies at 64.
Complications from a stroke caused by smoking and high blood pressure.

She played Wednesday on the original "The Addams Family"

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of the main crew only Gomez is not dead yet, still working too..
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057729/mediaindex?refine=nm0040014&ref_=ttmi_ref_nm
https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch/?sort=year&explore=title_type&role=nm0040014&ref_=nm_ql_flmg_1

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Morticia Addams made a big impact on me as a young lad.

….and his son with Patty Duke is a Hobbit.

Today on Fresh Air with Terry Gross:

After cancer diagnosis, a neurosurgeon sees life, death and his career in a new way




https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1152038098

Williams died in Los Angeles at age 75 on Wednesday after a brief illness, her children, Zak and Emily Hudson, said in a statement released through family spokeswoman Liza Cranis.

"The passing of our kind, hilarious mother, Cindy Williams, has brought us insurmountable sadness that could never truly be expressed," the statement said. "Knowing and loving her has been our joy and privilege. She was one of a kind, beautiful, generous and possessed a brilliant sense of humor and a glittering spirit that everyone loved."



And now they are both gone.

Father of Peeps. So sad. Oh so sad. So much death.

https://www.sfgate.com/living/article/father-of-peeps-bob-born-dies-at-98-17752279.php

Cindy Williams married Bill Hudson after he was married to Goldie Hawn. So technically, she's the stepmom of Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. But Kate and Oliver were estranged from their father.

Bill Hudson, who had two kids with Williams, went on to have a child in 2006 when Oliver Hudson was 30.

Chapman_is_Gone said:

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Father of Peeps. So sad. Oh so sad. So much death.

https://www.sfgate.com/living/article/father-of-peeps-bob-born-dies-at-98-17752279.php

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Doesn't 98 qualify you for Life Pig status? Too soon?
As Sam Kinison said: "When sugar and salt kick your @$$, GET IN THE F@UCKIN' BOX!"

okaydo said:

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Cindy Williams married Bill Hudson after he was married to Goldie Hawn. So technically, she's the stepmom of Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. But Kate and Oliver were estranged from their father.

Bill Hudson, who had two kids with Williams, went on to have a child in 2006 when Oliver Hudson was 30.

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So, I looked it up.
Hudson had a 30 year gap between kids - and he was 57 when he had his last.

That's nothing!!
My step father had a kid in 1945 and 1988, a 43 year spread. And he was 65, my mom was 44, for a combined age of 109!

A lot had been made of Tony Randall.
He was born in 1920, married Heather Harlan in 1995 when he was 75 and she 25.
They had a kid in 97, another in 98.
So, he was 78 and she 28, combined ages only 106.
Losers!
Randall died in 2004. My step father beat him out there, too. Aged 93 vs 84.

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Chapman_is_Gone said:

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Father of Peeps. So sad. Oh so sad. So much death.

https://www.sfgate.com/living/article/father-of-peeps-bob-born-dies-at-98-17752279.php

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Doesn't 98 qualify you for Life Pig status? Too soon?
As Sam Kinison said: "When sugar and salt kick your @$$, GET IN THE F@UCKIN' BOX!"

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This doctor has been in the press again this week. Said 9 years ago he'd turn down treatment if he got cancer after 75.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/

That doc is Rahm Emanuel's bro. His other bro, Ari, is the inspiration for Jeremy Piven's character Ari Gold in Entourage. Stick with me, kid, and I'll teach ya sh@it.

….EricBear thinks the OT guys are dickish is my guess…,either that or he ain't concordtom's b@itch….like I am.


* Edit: EricBear didn't post it. His tweet was posted. My theories are gutted