so much needless death, because people were convinced that a life-saving vaccine was actually dangerous
— Dylan Scott (@dylanlscott) December 28, 2021
I've had three Pfizer shots with zero side effects from any of them. I spent Christmas in a red state where I felt like I was living amongst a death cult in which people crowded into stores, restaurants, and hotels and did not wear masks. I definitely exposed myself more than usual because the spirit of the season, I guess. Fingers crossed, so far I am healthy.Eastern Oregon Bear said:
I'm a sample size of 1, but I've been more sick some years from a flu shot than I have been from any of my 3 Covid vaccinations. Anyway, let's keep working towards better vaccines.
Unit2Sucks said:
Keep up the good work 003. This is what you and your ilk are accomplishing.so much needless death, because people were convinced that a life-saving vaccine was actually dangerous
— Dylan Scott (@dylanlscott) December 28, 2021
You can talk all you want about your real goals, but this was the obvious and inevitable outcome of the anti mRNA movement.
Is your argument that your posts are not harmful because the people here are too smart to listen to them?oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:
Keep up the good work 003. This is what you and your ilk are accomplishing.so much needless death, because people were convinced that a life-saving vaccine was actually dangerous
— Dylan Scott (@dylanlscott) December 28, 2021
You can talk all you want about your real goals, but this was the obvious and inevitable outcome of the anti mRNA movement.
An mRNA vaccine is better than no vaccine. Blaming me (and my ilk) for people not getting vaccinated is cheap and low. This is clearly not an audience where my posts are convincing BI readers to not get dose 1 and 2. If you can't criticize the junk vaccines available here, where can you?
dajo9 said:Is your argument that your posts are not harmful because the people here are too smart to listen to them?oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:
Keep up the good work 003. This is what you and your ilk are accomplishing.so much needless death, because people were convinced that a life-saving vaccine was actually dangerous
— Dylan Scott (@dylanlscott) December 28, 2021
You can talk all you want about your real goals, but this was the obvious and inevitable outcome of the anti mRNA movement.
An mRNA vaccine is better than no vaccine. Blaming me (and my ilk) for people not getting vaccinated is cheap and low. This is clearly not an audience where my posts are convincing BI readers to not get dose 1 and 2. If you can't criticize the junk vaccines available here, where can you?
AunBear89 said:
You have a shifting definition of 'facts' - here's a clue: wanting something to be true does not make it a fact.
AunBear89 said:
I've written plenty of things of substance. All of them are well above your 1st grade reading comprehension level.
AunBear89 said:
First time on Off Topic?
bearister said:
T cells come to the rescue as studies show they buck omicron | National | bakersfield.com
https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/national/t-cells-come-to-the-rescue-as-studies-show-they-buck-omicron/article_d997503d-5856-5153-a793-0fb9a0b82a94.html
oski003 said:bearister said:
T cells come to the rescue as studies show they buck omicron | National | bakersfield.com
https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/national/t-cells-come-to-the-rescue-as-studies-show-they-buck-omicron/article_d997503d-5856-5153-a793-0fb9a0b82a94.html
I have criticized the USA on this board for an antibody dependent vaccine strategy for more than a year. There has never been antibody durability on coronavirus vaccines. Inovio was the only company that had succesfully completed MERS vaccine human trials. South Korea indicated they would grant EUA if MERS returned there and Inovio progressed into a CEPI sponsored MERS trial in the Middle East. Their MERS t-cell based DNA vaccine showed 18 month durability. MERS is the closest relative to SARS-2 COVID 19 (not SARS 1).
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I posted this on 12-8-21:
We're all living in an interesting case study. We have a global pandemic still out of control. mRNA vaccines were anointed as being our savior for the pandemic. People bought into mRNA because we had to as no other real options were made available despite the side effects and massive distribution expense.
Less than a year after most people were vaccinated with mRNA we are finding the wonder drug mRNA may not be what it was all supposed to be unless we get vaccines every 3-6 months.
Pivotal point right now - find a way to introduce better vaccines that target T Cells like Inovio hopefully and at the same time convince people to accept a new vaccine direction after you've spent most of the pandemic glorifying mRNA. And also try to explain all the massive sunk costs in subsidizing the sub-optimal mRNA vaccines. Hard sell IMHO.
Winners in all this could be the 3rd world population which hasn't been hard coded to think mRNA is the savior.
NEW - University of Washington research center projects 3 billion #Omicron cases over the next 3 months.pic.twitter.com/AoOV1N6g6W
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 22, 2021
JUST IN - UK reports over 100,000 new #COVID19 cases for the first time despite all vaccination efforts during the last 12 months.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 22, 2021
BearForce2 said:oski003 said:bearister said:
T cells come to the rescue as studies show they buck omicron | National | bakersfield.com
https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/national/t-cells-come-to-the-rescue-as-studies-show-they-buck-omicron/article_d997503d-5856-5153-a793-0fb9a0b82a94.html
I have criticized the USA on this board for an antibody dependent vaccine strategy for more than a year. There has never been antibody durability on coronavirus vaccines. Inovio was the only company that had succesfully completed MERS vaccine human trials. South Korea indicated they would grant EUA if MERS returned there and Inovio progressed into a CEPI sponsored MERS trial in the Middle East. Their MERS t-cell based DNA vaccine showed 18 month durability. MERS is the closest relative to SARS-2 COVID 19 (not SARS 1).
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I posted this on 12-8-21:
We're all living in an interesting case study. We have a global pandemic still out of control. mRNA vaccines were anointed as being our savior for the pandemic. People bought into mRNA because we had to as no other real options were made available despite the side effects and massive distribution expense.
Less than a year after most people were vaccinated with mRNA we are finding the wonder drug mRNA may not be what it was all supposed to be unless we get vaccines every 3-6 months.
Pivotal point right now - find a way to introduce better vaccines that target T Cells like Inovio hopefully and at the same time convince people to accept a new vaccine direction after you've spent most of the pandemic glorifying mRNA. And also try to explain all the massive sunk costs in subsidizing the sub-optimal mRNA vaccines. Hard sell IMHO.
Winners in all this could be the 3rd world population which hasn't been hard coded to think mRNA is the savior.NEW - University of Washington research center projects 3 billion #Omicron cases over the next 3 months.pic.twitter.com/AoOV1N6g6W
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 22, 2021JUST IN - UK reports over 100,000 new #COVID19 cases for the first time despite all vaccination efforts during the last 12 months.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 22, 2021
With more people infected with Omicron, do you think this will encourage people to transition to a new non-mRNA vaccine if it becomes available or make them more vaccine hesitant since most people will presumably have recovered without serious incident and may be experiencing vaccine fatigue at some point?
I can't even express how angry this makes me. Think of all the lives ruined, jobs lost, education squandered b/c of false positives. We've been saying since summer 2020 that the PCR test can be positive at 5 days or 75 days. And ONLY JUST NOW is it being used to adjust policy. https://t.co/4Q6rHFDB4S
— Justin Hart (@justin_hart) December 29, 2021
By contrast, this claim from Pfizer's CEO is still up: totally undisturbed and without comment.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 31, 2021
If you want to stay on social media, you need to learn to show the proper deference to the decrees of pharmaceutical giants. No questioning: it's dangerous.https://t.co/sNhec3QZdP
I must have missed the part where Glenn Greenwald was banned from social media. Or does it just apply to some people that don't show the proper deference to the decrees of pharmaceutical giants?BearForce2 said:By contrast, this claim from Pfizer's CEO is still up: totally undisturbed and without comment.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 31, 2021
If you want to stay on social media, you need to learn to show the proper deference to the decrees of pharmaceutical giants. No questioning: it's dangerous.https://t.co/sNhec3QZdP
Pfizer CEO's tweet was back in April, 2021.
bearister said:
*I agree with this approach for places like the Bay Area, but as the article implies, in the vax resistant Red States it compounds their idiocy and perpetuates the flooding of their ERs.
sycasey said:bearister said:
*I agree with this approach for places like the Bay Area, but as the article implies, in the vax resistant Red States it compounds their idiocy and perpetuates the flooding of their ERs.
Doesn't it also work for those places? Reporting on hospitalizations would show they have a problem.
bearister said:sycasey said:bearister said:
*I agree with this approach for places like the Bay Area, but as the article implies, in the vax resistant Red States it compounds their idiocy and perpetuates the flooding of their ERs.
Doesn't it also work for those places? Reporting on hospitalizations would show they have a problem.
What I am saying is that in the Bay Area they don't need to keep reporting on cases, just hospitalizations and deaths. In the vax resistant Red States, I would still try to scare them into compliance by reporting case information with them….but it is probably futile because a high percentage of them believe the diagnosis of Covid and the statement of the cause of death as Covid is fraudulent so that hospitals can get government reimbursement for treatment. My Evangelical golf buddies started telling me this in mid 2020.
concordtom said:
Humans have infected wild deer with Covid-19 in a handful of U.S. states and there's evidence the virus has been spreading between deer, according to recent studies, which outline findings that could complicate the path out of the pandemic.
Scientists swabbed the nostrils of white-tailed deer in Ohio and found evidence of at least six separate times that humans spread the coronavirus to deer, according to a study published last week in Nature.
About one-third of the deer sampled had an active or recent infection, the study says. Similar research in Iowa of tissue from roadkill and hunted deer found widespread evidence of the virus.
concordtom said:
Humans have infected wild deer with Covid-19 in a handful of U.S. states and there's evidence the virus has been spreading between deer, according to recent studies, which outline findings that could complicate the path out of the pandemic.
Scientists swabbed the nostrils of white-tailed deer in Ohio and found evidence of at least six separate times that humans spread the coronavirus to deer, according to a study published last week in Nature.
About one-third of the deer sampled had an active or recent infection, the study says. Similar research in Iowa of tissue from roadkill and hunted deer found widespread evidence of the virus.
Big C said:concordtom said:
Humans have infected wild deer with Covid-19 in a handful of U.S. states and there's evidence the virus has been spreading between deer, according to recent studies, which outline findings that could complicate the path out of the pandemic.
Scientists swabbed the nostrils of white-tailed deer in Ohio and found evidence of at least six separate times that humans spread the coronavirus to deer, according to a study published last week in Nature.
About one-third of the deer sampled had an active or recent infection, the study says. Similar research in Iowa of tissue from roadkill and hunted deer found widespread evidence of the virus.
Oh, I can't help thinking of poor little Bambi!
Time to get all deer (ages 5 and up) fully vaxxed and then boosted! In the meantime, they all should be wearing masks (except when eating, of course).
bearister said:concordtom said:
Humans have infected wild deer with Covid-19 in a handful of U.S. states and there's evidence the virus has been spreading between deer, according to recent studies, which outline findings that could complicate the path out of the pandemic.
Scientists swabbed the nostrils of white-tailed deer in Ohio and found evidence of at least six separate times that humans spread the coronavirus to deer, according to a study published last week in Nature.
About one-third of the deer sampled had an active or recent infection, the study says. Similar research in Iowa of tissue from roadkill and hunted deer found widespread evidence of the virus.
"I was nowhere near that deer, occifer, I was with the Mrs. that night."
BearForce2 said:Big C said:concordtom said:
Humans have infected wild deer with Covid-19 in a handful of U.S. states and there's evidence the virus has been spreading between deer, according to recent studies, which outline findings that could complicate the path out of the pandemic.
Scientists swabbed the nostrils of white-tailed deer in Ohio and found evidence of at least six separate times that humans spread the coronavirus to deer, according to a study published last week in Nature.
About one-third of the deer sampled had an active or recent infection, the study says. Similar research in Iowa of tissue from roadkill and hunted deer found widespread evidence of the virus.
Oh, I can't help thinking of poor little Bambi!
Time to get all deer (ages 5 and up) fully vaxxed and then boosted! In the meantime, they all should be wearing masks (except when eating, of course).
9 Lions And Tigers At The National Zoo Are Being Treated For COVID
Six African lions, a Sumatran tiger and two Amur tigers have tested presumptive positive for the virus that causes COVID-19 and are undergoing treatment, the zoo said in a news release Thursday.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/17/1038295149/national-zoo-tigers-lions-covid-coronavirus
