Nice job Lander, way to hold and sell at the top. Pfizer salutes you.
You are pushing misinformation by omission. A common tactic but not a tactic that frees the perpetrator of guilt.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Unlike you I'm not trawling anti-vaxx misinformation websites searching for information I can use to dissemble. If Based on what you've said, it sounds like he advised his son to get 2 doses of mRNA vaccine. Not that you would ever let that get in the way of your anti public health crusade.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:SO PROUD OF OUR GIRLS & TEAM USA AND ALL THE WOMEN IN BEIJING!π¨π¦ππ₯ ππΊπΈ#TeamCanada WOMEN'S HOCKEY RULES!#TeamPlayers #GoHomeConvoy π pic.twitter.com/Qlf38Z0zES
— Sammie Deeπ§ππΈ (@SammieScotia) February 8, 2022
2 of the 3 pictured aren't covering their nose. This would be 100x harder wearing these masks outside in heat also. And, yes, kudos for wearing masks Such a contrarian!
You aren't an anti masker but the contrarian in you couldn't help but criticize. This is so on brand for you.
Did you know that Vaccine Expert Paul Offit advised his son, in his 20's, not to get a booster?
I decided to google this guy. Here's a recent quote from Offit:Once again shows how disingenuous you are to disregard his real message (which is that everyone, including children, should be vaccinated) in order to spread your anti-vax garbage.Quote:
If you work in a hospital, as I do, and you see children between 12 and 15 years of age coming into your hospital, they're not there because they haven't gotten a third dose, they're there because they haven't gotten any doses. I mean, this really is, at least at the hospital level, a disease for the unvaccinated, and that has to be our focus. I just feel like to some extent we've kind of given up on that, and this constant talk about boosting is in many ways a detour.
Geez, man. Project much?
Is that the default reply for admitting that you were wrong about Paul Offit's vaccine position?
Why not just admit to Unit II that you were wrong, and apologize?
Paul Offit advised his son to not get a booster shot because the risks outweighed the benefits. Full stop.
USucks is inputting his own views into the topic.
oski003 said:
Paul Offit advised his son to not get a booster shot because the risks outweighed the benefits. Full stop.
USucks is inputting his own views into the topic.
dajo9 said:You are pushing misinformation by omission. A common tactic but not a tactic that frees the perpetrator of guilt.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Unlike you I'm not trawling anti-vaxx misinformation websites searching for information I can use to dissemble. If Based on what you've said, it sounds like he advised his son to get 2 doses of mRNA vaccine. Not that you would ever let that get in the way of your anti public health crusade.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:SO PROUD OF OUR GIRLS & TEAM USA AND ALL THE WOMEN IN BEIJING!π¨π¦ππ₯ ππΊπΈ#TeamCanada WOMEN'S HOCKEY RULES!#TeamPlayers #GoHomeConvoy π pic.twitter.com/Qlf38Z0zES
— Sammie Deeπ§ππΈ (@SammieScotia) February 8, 2022
2 of the 3 pictured aren't covering their nose. This would be 100x harder wearing these masks outside in heat also. And, yes, kudos for wearing masks Such a contrarian!
You aren't an anti masker but the contrarian in you couldn't help but criticize. This is so on brand for you.
Did you know that Vaccine Expert Paul Offit advised his son, in his 20's, not to get a booster?
I decided to google this guy. Here's a recent quote from Offit:Once again shows how disingenuous you are to disregard his real message (which is that everyone, including children, should be vaccinated) in order to spread your anti-vax garbage.Quote:
If you work in a hospital, as I do, and you see children between 12 and 15 years of age coming into your hospital, they're not there because they haven't gotten a third dose, they're there because they haven't gotten any doses. I mean, this really is, at least at the hospital level, a disease for the unvaccinated, and that has to be our focus. I just feel like to some extent we've kind of given up on that, and this constant talk about boosting is in many ways a detour.
Geez, man. Project much?
Is that the default reply for admitting that you were wrong about Paul Offit's vaccine position?
Why not just admit to Unit II that you were wrong, and apologize?
Paul Offit advised his son to not get a booster shot because the risks outweighed the benefits. Full stop.
USucks is inputting his own views into the topic.
Oxygen isn't harmless either. I'd advise against putting it in the body.oski003 said:dajo9 said:You are pushing misinformation by omission. A common tactic but not a tactic that frees the perpetrator of guilt.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Unlike you I'm not trawling anti-vaxx misinformation websites searching for information I can use to dissemble. If Based on what you've said, it sounds like he advised his son to get 2 doses of mRNA vaccine. Not that you would ever let that get in the way of your anti public health crusade.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:SO PROUD OF OUR GIRLS & TEAM USA AND ALL THE WOMEN IN BEIJING!π¨π¦ππ₯ ππΊπΈ#TeamCanada WOMEN'S HOCKEY RULES!#TeamPlayers #GoHomeConvoy π pic.twitter.com/Qlf38Z0zES
— Sammie Deeπ§ππΈ (@SammieScotia) February 8, 2022
2 of the 3 pictured aren't covering their nose. This would be 100x harder wearing these masks outside in heat also. And, yes, kudos for wearing masks Such a contrarian!
You aren't an anti masker but the contrarian in you couldn't help but criticize. This is so on brand for you.
Did you know that Vaccine Expert Paul Offit advised his son, in his 20's, not to get a booster?
I decided to google this guy. Here's a recent quote from Offit:Once again shows how disingenuous you are to disregard his real message (which is that everyone, including children, should be vaccinated) in order to spread your anti-vax garbage.Quote:
If you work in a hospital, as I do, and you see children between 12 and 15 years of age coming into your hospital, they're not there because they haven't gotten a third dose, they're there because they haven't gotten any doses. I mean, this really is, at least at the hospital level, a disease for the unvaccinated, and that has to be our focus. I just feel like to some extent we've kind of given up on that, and this constant talk about boosting is in many ways a detour.
Geez, man. Project much?
Is that the default reply for admitting that you were wrong about Paul Offit's vaccine position?
Why not just admit to Unit II that you were wrong, and apologize?
Paul Offit advised his son to not get a booster shot because the risks outweighed the benefits. Full stop.
USucks is inputting his own views into the topic.
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would not advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
Please read the article, which basically indicates his belief that boosting healthy populations is a fruitless effort to prevent spread because protection against mild disease and infection is not durable.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2021/12/omicron-dr-paul-offit-is-skeptical-of-boosters-for-all.html
And, yes, I do not believe that mRNA vaccines are harmless. That is my belief based on other information I have read and posted, but Offitt is not someone who touts mRNA dangers.
DiabloWags said:oski003 said:
Paul Offit advised his son to not get a booster shot because the risks outweighed the benefits. Full stop.
USucks is inputting his own views into the topic.
The WHO Chief Scientist, Dr. Soumya Swaminathan recently said that "there's no evidence right now" that suggests healthy children and adolescents need booster shots. But the risk from a third dose is very small, below the already low risk posed by the second shot.
According to data from the CDC, in just under 1 million people age 16-24 years who received a booster, there were just 4 confirmed myocarditis cases, all recovered, with 9 cases still under review. Data from Israel showed the third dose causes myocarditis in 1 in 15,000 males age 16-19 years. Moreover, researchers on vaccine-related myocarditis say that while long-term monitoring is needed, "most cases of suspected COVID-19 vaccine-related myocarditis in people younger than 21 are mild and resolve quickly". So giving a booster to young males carries a very low risk of a condition that is almost always mild and transient.
I Won't Call Dr. Paul Offit an Anti-Vaxxer | Science-Based Medicine (sciencebasedmedicine.org)
Perhaps there is no definitive right answer for RIGHT NOW.
Maybe Dr. Offit will be right.
But he has been wrong before . . . like when he said that Covid would cause less than "one-tenth of the damage that influenza causes every year in the United States."
It's "ok" to be wrong Oski.
dajo9 said:Oxygen isn't harmless either. I'd advise against putting it in the body.oski003 said:dajo9 said:You are pushing misinformation by omission. A common tactic but not a tactic that frees the perpetrator of guilt.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Unlike you I'm not trawling anti-vaxx misinformation websites searching for information I can use to dissemble. If Based on what you've said, it sounds like he advised his son to get 2 doses of mRNA vaccine. Not that you would ever let that get in the way of your anti public health crusade.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:SO PROUD OF OUR GIRLS & TEAM USA AND ALL THE WOMEN IN BEIJING!π¨π¦ππ₯ ππΊπΈ#TeamCanada WOMEN'S HOCKEY RULES!#TeamPlayers #GoHomeConvoy π pic.twitter.com/Qlf38Z0zES
— Sammie Deeπ§ππΈ (@SammieScotia) February 8, 2022
2 of the 3 pictured aren't covering their nose. This would be 100x harder wearing these masks outside in heat also. And, yes, kudos for wearing masks Such a contrarian!
You aren't an anti masker but the contrarian in you couldn't help but criticize. This is so on brand for you.
Did you know that Vaccine Expert Paul Offit advised his son, in his 20's, not to get a booster?
I decided to google this guy. Here's a recent quote from Offit:Once again shows how disingenuous you are to disregard his real message (which is that everyone, including children, should be vaccinated) in order to spread your anti-vax garbage.Quote:
If you work in a hospital, as I do, and you see children between 12 and 15 years of age coming into your hospital, they're not there because they haven't gotten a third dose, they're there because they haven't gotten any doses. I mean, this really is, at least at the hospital level, a disease for the unvaccinated, and that has to be our focus. I just feel like to some extent we've kind of given up on that, and this constant talk about boosting is in many ways a detour.
Geez, man. Project much?
Is that the default reply for admitting that you were wrong about Paul Offit's vaccine position?
Why not just admit to Unit II that you were wrong, and apologize?
Paul Offit advised his son to not get a booster shot because the risks outweighed the benefits. Full stop.
USucks is inputting his own views into the topic.
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would not advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
Please read the article, which basically indicates his belief that boosting healthy populations is a fruitless effort to prevent spread because protection against mild disease and infection is not durable.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2021/12/omicron-dr-paul-offit-is-skeptical-of-boosters-for-all.html
And, yes, I do not believe that mRNA vaccines are harmless. That is my belief based on other information I have read and posted, but Offitt is not someone who touts mRNA dangers.
But oxygen isn't harmless. Therefore it's bad.oski003 said:dajo9 said:Oxygen isn't harmless either. I'd advise against putting it in the body.oski003 said:dajo9 said:You are pushing misinformation by omission. A common tactic but not a tactic that frees the perpetrator of guilt.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Unlike you I'm not trawling anti-vaxx misinformation websites searching for information I can use to dissemble. If Based on what you've said, it sounds like he advised his son to get 2 doses of mRNA vaccine. Not that you would ever let that get in the way of your anti public health crusade.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:SO PROUD OF OUR GIRLS & TEAM USA AND ALL THE WOMEN IN BEIJING!π¨π¦ππ₯ ππΊπΈ#TeamCanada WOMEN'S HOCKEY RULES!#TeamPlayers #GoHomeConvoy π pic.twitter.com/Qlf38Z0zES
— Sammie Deeπ§ππΈ (@SammieScotia) February 8, 2022
2 of the 3 pictured aren't covering their nose. This would be 100x harder wearing these masks outside in heat also. And, yes, kudos for wearing masks Such a contrarian!
You aren't an anti masker but the contrarian in you couldn't help but criticize. This is so on brand for you.
Did you know that Vaccine Expert Paul Offit advised his son, in his 20's, not to get a booster?
I decided to google this guy. Here's a recent quote from Offit:Once again shows how disingenuous you are to disregard his real message (which is that everyone, including children, should be vaccinated) in order to spread your anti-vax garbage.Quote:
If you work in a hospital, as I do, and you see children between 12 and 15 years of age coming into your hospital, they're not there because they haven't gotten a third dose, they're there because they haven't gotten any doses. I mean, this really is, at least at the hospital level, a disease for the unvaccinated, and that has to be our focus. I just feel like to some extent we've kind of given up on that, and this constant talk about boosting is in many ways a detour.
Geez, man. Project much?
Is that the default reply for admitting that you were wrong about Paul Offit's vaccine position?
Why not just admit to Unit II that you were wrong, and apologize?
Paul Offit advised his son to not get a booster shot because the risks outweighed the benefits. Full stop.
USucks is inputting his own views into the topic.
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would not advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
Please read the article, which basically indicates his belief that boosting healthy populations is a fruitless effort to prevent spread because protection against mild disease and infection is not durable.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2021/12/omicron-dr-paul-offit-is-skeptical-of-boosters-for-all.html
And, yes, I do not believe that mRNA vaccines are harmless. That is my belief based on other information I have read and posted, but Offitt is not someone who touts mRNA dangers.
Cigarettes aren't harmless either. I'd advise against putting them in the body. Oxygen, on the other hand, you need to live.
oski003 said:dajo9 said:You are pushing misinformation by omission. A common tactic but not a tactic that frees the perpetrator of guilt.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Unlike you I'm not trawling anti-vaxx misinformation websites searching for information I can use to dissemble. If Based on what you've said, it sounds like he advised his son to get 2 doses of mRNA vaccine. Not that you would ever let that get in the way of your anti public health crusade.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:SO PROUD OF OUR GIRLS & TEAM USA AND ALL THE WOMEN IN BEIJING!π¨π¦ππ₯ ππΊπΈ#TeamCanada WOMEN'S HOCKEY RULES!#TeamPlayers #GoHomeConvoy π pic.twitter.com/Qlf38Z0zES
— Sammie Deeπ§ππΈ (@SammieScotia) February 8, 2022
2 of the 3 pictured aren't covering their nose. This would be 100x harder wearing these masks outside in heat also. And, yes, kudos for wearing masks Such a contrarian!
You aren't an anti masker but the contrarian in you couldn't help but criticize. This is so on brand for you.
Did you know that Vaccine Expert Paul Offit advised his son, in his 20's, not to get a booster?
I decided to google this guy. Here's a recent quote from Offit:Once again shows how disingenuous you are to disregard his real message (which is that everyone, including children, should be vaccinated) in order to spread your anti-vax garbage.Quote:
If you work in a hospital, as I do, and you see children between 12 and 15 years of age coming into your hospital, they're not there because they haven't gotten a third dose, they're there because they haven't gotten any doses. I mean, this really is, at least at the hospital level, a disease for the unvaccinated, and that has to be our focus. I just feel like to some extent we've kind of given up on that, and this constant talk about boosting is in many ways a detour.
Geez, man. Project much?
Is that the default reply for admitting that you were wrong about Paul Offit's vaccine position?
Why not just admit to Unit II that you were wrong, and apologize?
Paul Offit advised his son to not get a booster shot because the risks outweighed the benefits. Full stop.
USucks is inputting his own views into the topic.
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
Please read the article, which basically indicates his belief that boosting healthy populations is a fruitless effort to prevent spread because protection against mild disease and infection is not durable.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2021/12/omicron-dr-paul-offit-is-skeptical-of-boosters-for-all.html
And, yes, I do not believe that mRNA vaccines are harmless. That is my belief based on other information I have read and posted, but Offitt is not someone who touts mRNA dangers.
dimitrig said:oski003 said:oski003 said:
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
He isn't advising his son not to get the booster because it is risky. He is advising his son not to get the booster because he is not in an at-risk population and he thinks the vaccines should go to those more in need.
DiabloWags said:dimitrig said:oski003 said:oski003 said:
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
He isn't advising his son not to get the booster because it is risky. He is advising his son not to get the booster because he is not in an at-risk population and he thinks the vaccines should go to those more in need.
Bingo.
I think the assumption that people taking vaccines here means they don't get them elsewhere is a faulty one. I get the impulse to have equity, but there are more issues with worldwide vaccine distribution than "we are hoarding them all."oski003 said:DiabloWags said:dimitrig said:oski003 said:oski003 said:
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
He isn't advising his son not to get the booster because it is risky. He is advising his son not to get the booster because he is not in an at-risk population and he thinks the vaccines should go to those more in need.
Bingo.
He must not be a U.C. Berkeley student.
The CDC touts numbers, parroted here, that those with booster are so much more protected against severe disease and recommends it for almost everyone, including Dr. Offitt's son. Yet Dr. Offitt advises his son not to get it because he is not at risk and the unvaccinated need it more, despite Fauci and others saying the US is saturated with vaccines. This is all very fascinating. I bet there are no absolutes here. If we are to believe Offitt at his word, it sounds like the booster science is unsettled.
oski003 said:
He must not be a U.C. Berkeley student.
Unfortunately, in part because of people like you, unvaccinated people aren't limited by access to vaccines and people availing themselves of boosters aren't limiting people from getting vaccinated. Desperate as you are to pretend that Offitt's advice to his son somehow is a weapon you an use in your crusade against vaccination, it's just not. Offitt wants more people vaccinated.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:dimitrig said:oski003 said:oski003 said:
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
He isn't advising his son not to get the booster because it is risky. He is advising his son not to get the booster because he is not in an at-risk population and he thinks the vaccines should go to those more in need.
Bingo.
He must not be a U.C. Berkeley student.
The CDC touts numbers, parroted here, that those with booster are so much more protected against severe disease and recommends it for almost everyone, including Dr. Offitt's son. Yet Dr. Offitt advises his son not to get it because he is not at risk and the unvaccinated need it more, despite Fauci and others saying the US is saturated with vaccines. This is all very fascinating. I bet there are no absolutes here. If we are to believe Offitt at his word, it sounds like the booster science is unsettled.
Unit2Sucks said:Unfortunately, in part because of people like you, unvaccinated people aren't limited by access to vaccines and people availing themselves of boosters aren't limiting people from getting vaccinated. Desperate as you are to pretend that Offitt's advice to his son somehow is a weapon you an use in your crusade against vaccination, it's just not. Offitt wants more people vaccinated.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:dimitrig said:oski003 said:oski003 said:
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
He isn't advising his son not to get the booster because it is risky. He is advising his son not to get the booster because he is not in an at-risk population and he thinks the vaccines should go to those more in need.
Bingo.
He must not be a U.C. Berkeley student.
The CDC touts numbers, parroted here, that those with booster are so much more protected against severe disease and recommends it for almost everyone, including Dr. Offitt's son. Yet Dr. Offitt advises his son not to get it because he is not at risk and the unvaccinated need it more, despite Fauci and others saying the US is saturated with vaccines. This is all very fascinating. I bet there are no absolutes here. If we are to believe Offitt at his word, it sounds like the booster science is unsettled.
Hundreds of anti-vaxx posts rife with misinformation in this forum would suggest otherwise.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Unfortunately, in part because of people like you, unvaccinated people aren't limited by access to vaccines and people availing themselves of boosters aren't limiting people from getting vaccinated. Desperate as you are to pretend that Offitt's advice to his son somehow is a weapon you an use in your crusade against vaccination, it's just not. Offitt wants more people vaccinated.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:dimitrig said:oski003 said:oski003 said:
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
He isn't advising his son not to get the booster because it is risky. He is advising his son not to get the booster because he is not in an at-risk population and he thinks the vaccines should go to those more in need.
Bingo.
He must not be a U.C. Berkeley student.
The CDC touts numbers, parroted here, that those with booster are so much more protected against severe disease and recommends it for almost everyone, including Dr. Offitt's son. Yet Dr. Offitt advises his son not to get it because he is not at risk and the unvaccinated need it more, despite Fauci and others saying the US is saturated with vaccines. This is all very fascinating. I bet there are no absolutes here. If we are to believe Offitt at his word, it sounds like the booster science is unsettled.
I do not have a crusade against vaccination.
Unit2Sucks said:Hundreds of anti-vaxx posts rife with misinformation in this forum would suggest otherwise.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Unfortunately, in part because of people like you, unvaccinated people aren't limited by access to vaccines and people availing themselves of boosters aren't limiting people from getting vaccinated. Desperate as you are to pretend that Offitt's advice to his son somehow is a weapon you an use in your crusade against vaccination, it's just not. Offitt wants more people vaccinated.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:dimitrig said:oski003 said:oski003 said:
What did I omit? Renowned vaccine expert Paul Offit has been a HUGE advocate of mRNA vaccines over the past 18 months. I find it very telling that he would advise his son, in his 20's, not to get the booster.
He isn't advising his son not to get the booster because it is risky. He is advising his son not to get the booster because he is not in an at-risk population and he thinks the vaccines should go to those more in need.
Bingo.
He must not be a U.C. Berkeley student.
The CDC touts numbers, parroted here, that those with booster are so much more protected against severe disease and recommends it for almost everyone, including Dr. Offitt's son. Yet Dr. Offitt advises his son not to get it because he is not at risk and the unvaccinated need it more, despite Fauci and others saying the US is saturated with vaccines. This is all very fascinating. I bet there are no absolutes here. If we are to believe Offitt at his word, it sounds like the booster science is unsettled.
I do not have a crusade against vaccination.
dajo9 said:Closing in on a million deaths and this guy thinks fear is unwarranted.BearForce2 said:
The Covid fear porn narrative is collapsing.
The Democratic politicians aren't just following polls. They are seeing the situation evolve the same as most of the rest of us. Vaccines came online almost a year ago. Everyone that can be vaccinated and isn't vaccinated has made their choice. The northeast winter surge is ending. Now is the time to normalize, at least here in the northeast. Most of us people on the edge of this discussion see it that way and most of the politicians in touch with things see it that way as well.
It is only the people with an agenda in this fight who see it as political gamesmanship when they are seeing the politicians do the right thing at the right time.
75% of Americans say they feel burned out about COVID.
— Bobby LaValley (@Bobby_LaVallley) February 10, 2022
βRight now you just have a burned-out angry country.β https://t.co/ItHqoIC37T
AunBear89 said:
Morons "lost trust" in public health officials because those officials were saying things the morons didn't want to hear (mask up, stay home, wash your hands) or didn't understand (evolving recommendations based on the changing science over passage of time).
Joe Biden and the Democratsβ anti-vax rhetoric fueled vaccine hesitancy.
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) August 11, 2021
Jen Psaki just defended this rhetoric.pic.twitter.com/xsPzWXDhVo
oski003 said:
Interesting timing, with all the pictures coming out of democratic leaders maskless indoors.
Democrat Kathy Hochul just made this the official COVID policy of the state of New York. pic.twitter.com/bhpXYU6oLH
— Tommy Pigott (@TommyPigott) February 9, 2022
Really sad story - sounds like they did everything right and treated her with an epi pen. According to the CDC, about 5 per million have this sort of anaphylaxis. I would like to think that people with her severe allergy profile would be able to get vaccinated in the hospital.oski00 said:
https://www.weau.com/2022/02/10/autopsy-confirms-kansas-woman-died-allergic-reaction-covid-19-vaccine/
Quote:
Evans had a history of medical problems and allergies, including hypertension, environmental allergies, allergic disorder, and reactive airway disease. The autopsy report said Evans had previously experienced previous an anaphylactic reaction to Albuterol, a drug used to treat or prevent bronchospasm in patients with asthma, bronchitis, emphysema, and other lung diseases.
Unit2Sucks said:
More hysterics because I challenge your agenda. It's hilarious to describe something as "potentially" life threatening when hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated without any deaths. And yet thousands of unvaccinated die every day. COVID is the potentially life threatening condition people should be worried about not allergic reactions.
By the way, I agree the messaging could have been better in the allergic reactions. It's only potentially an issue for people who have a history of severe allergic reactions which is a very small subset of the population. No one else should be waiting at the pharmacy post jab. I know I didn't after any of mine, nor did we with my children or wife.
Fear of theoretical allergic reaction is not the reason millions of conservative tribes people are exposing themselves to excess COVID risk. Thanks for playing though.
Unit2Sucks said:Really sad story - sounds like they did everything right and treated her with an epi pen. According to the CDC, about 5 per million have this sort of anaphylaxis. I would like to think that people with her severe allergy profile would be able to get vaccinated in the hospital.oski00 said:
https://www.weau.com/2022/02/10/autopsy-confirms-kansas-woman-died-allergic-reaction-covid-19-vaccine/Quote:
Evans had a history of medical problems and allergies, including hypertension, environmental allergies, allergic disorder, and reactive airway disease. The autopsy report said Evans had previously experienced previous an anaphylactic reaction to Albuterol, a drug used to treat or prevent bronchospasm in patients with asthma, bronchitis, emphysema, and other lung diseases.
003 is using this to further his anti-vax crusade, but this is a pretty rare reaction and not something that should dissuade anyone without a history of anapyhlaxis. Of course, 003 knows all of this but he likes to mislead by omission and layer in a few conspiracy theories as well.
Because one person with known history of severe allergic reactions died of anaphylaxis? Sorry, this is entirely consistent with what I posted.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:
More hysterics because I challenge your agenda. It's hilarious to describe something as "potentially" life threatening when hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated without any deaths. And yet thousands of unvaccinated die every day. COVID is the potentially life threatening condition people should be worried about not allergic reactions.
By the way, I agree the messaging could have been better in the allergic reactions. It's only potentially an issue for people who have a history of severe allergic reactions which is a very small subset of the population. No one else should be waiting at the pharmacy post jab. I know I didn't after any of mine, nor did we with my children or wife.
Fear of theoretical allergic reaction is not the reason millions of conservative tribes people are exposing themselves to excess COVID risk. Thanks for playing though.
Sorry USucks, you are peddling vaccine misinformation.
Unit2Sucks said:Because one person with known history of severe allergic reactions died of anaphylaxis? Sorry, this is entirely consistent with what I posted.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:
More hysterics because I challenge your agenda. It's hilarious to describe something as "potentially" life threatening when hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated without any deaths. And yet thousands of unvaccinated die every day. COVID is the potentially life threatening condition people should be worried about not allergic reactions.
By the way, I agree the messaging could have been better in the allergic reactions. It's only potentially an issue for people who have a history of severe allergic reactions which is a very small subset of the population. No one else should be waiting at the pharmacy post jab. I know I didn't after any of mine, nor did we with my children or wife.
Fear of theoretical allergic reaction is not the reason millions of conservative tribes people are exposing themselves to excess COVID risk. Thanks for playing though.
Sorry USucks, you are peddling vaccine misinformation.
Perhaps I should post every time a COVID vaccine saves someone's life. Then I could drown out your ridiculous cherry picking with hundreds of thousands of success stories. You aren't fooling anyone.
You are so blinded by misinformation that you can't even see that I specifically mention people with a history of severe allergic reactions, which this woman had. So thanks for pointing out that my statement was accurate.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Because one person with known history of severe allergic reactions died of anaphylaxis? Sorry, this is entirely consistent with what I posted.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:
More hysterics because I challenge your agenda. It's hilarious to describe something as "potentially" life threatening when hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated without any deaths. And yet thousands of unvaccinated die every day. COVID is the potentially life threatening condition people should be worried about not allergic reactions.
By the way, I agree the messaging could have been better in the allergic reactions. It's only potentially an issue for people who have a history of severe allergic reactions which is a very small subset of the population. No one else should be waiting at the pharmacy post jab. I know I didn't after any of mine, nor did we with my children or wife.
Fear of theoretical allergic reaction is not the reason millions of conservative tribes people are exposing themselves to excess COVID risk. Thanks for playing though.
Sorry USucks, you are peddling vaccine misinformation.
Perhaps I should post every time a COVID vaccine saves someone's life. Then I could drown out your ridiculous cherry picking with hundreds of thousands of success stories. You aren't fooling anyone.
You posted something as fact to demonstrate I was wrong and then facts came out two weeks later that proved you were wrong. You aren't fooling anyone.
mRNA vaccines have saved way way more lives than they have harmed. It isn't even close, and I never said it was. Get back on your meds and stop making up my arguments.
Unit2Sucks said:You are so blinded by misinformation that you can't even see that I specifically mention people with a history of severe allergic reactions, which this woman had. So thanks for pointing out that my statement was accurate.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Because one person with known history of severe allergic reactions died of anaphylaxis? Sorry, this is entirely consistent with what I posted.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:
More hysterics because I challenge your agenda. It's hilarious to describe something as "potentially" life threatening when hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated without any deaths. And yet thousands of unvaccinated die every day. COVID is the potentially life threatening condition people should be worried about not allergic reactions.
By the way, I agree the messaging could have been better in the allergic reactions. It's only potentially an issue for people who have a history of severe allergic reactions which is a very small subset of the population. No one else should be waiting at the pharmacy post jab. I know I didn't after any of mine, nor did we with my children or wife.
Fear of theoretical allergic reaction is not the reason millions of conservative tribes people are exposing themselves to excess COVID risk. Thanks for playing though.
Sorry USucks, you are peddling vaccine misinformation.
Perhaps I should post every time a COVID vaccine saves someone's life. Then I could drown out your ridiculous cherry picking with hundreds of thousands of success stories. You aren't fooling anyone.
You posted something as fact to demonstrate I was wrong and then facts came out two weeks later that proved you were wrong. You aren't fooling anyone.
mRNA vaccines have saved way way more lives than they have harmed. It isn't even close, and I never said it was. Get back on your meds and stop making up my arguments.
Anaphylaxis is potentially life-threatening for an extremely small subset of the population, the vast majority of whom already know who they are. I know you are on cloud 9 doing a victory lap because a woman with a history of severe allergic reactions had one that lead to her death but this doesn't do anything to change the calculus of vaccination. You know this of course, but heaven forfend you miss an opportunity to mislead people.
Congratulations, you found one death from anaphylaxis. There may even be a handful of others. Please allow me to update my statement to acknowledge that at least one person with a history of severe allergic reactions had a severe allergic reaction which lead to her death. How many doses of mRNA have been given in the US? 300 million?oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:You are so blinded by misinformation that you can't even see that I specifically mention people with a history of severe allergic reactions, which this woman had. So thanks for pointing out that my statement was accurate.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Because one person with known history of severe allergic reactions died of anaphylaxis? Sorry, this is entirely consistent with what I posted.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:
More hysterics because I challenge your agenda. It's hilarious to describe something as "potentially" life threatening when hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated without any deaths. And yet thousands of unvaccinated die every day. COVID is the potentially life threatening condition people should be worried about not allergic reactions.
By the way, I agree the messaging could have been better in the allergic reactions. It's only potentially an issue for people who have a history of severe allergic reactions which is a very small subset of the population. No one else should be waiting at the pharmacy post jab. I know I didn't after any of mine, nor did we with my children or wife.
Fear of theoretical allergic reaction is not the reason millions of conservative tribes people are exposing themselves to excess COVID risk. Thanks for playing though.
Sorry USucks, you are peddling vaccine misinformation.
Perhaps I should post every time a COVID vaccine saves someone's life. Then I could drown out your ridiculous cherry picking with hundreds of thousands of success stories. You aren't fooling anyone.
You posted something as fact to demonstrate I was wrong and then facts came out two weeks later that proved you were wrong. You aren't fooling anyone.
mRNA vaccines have saved way way more lives than they have harmed. It isn't even close, and I never said it was. Get back on your meds and stop making up my arguments.
Anaphylaxis is potentially life-threatening for an extremely small subset of the population, the vast majority of whom already know who they are. I know you are on cloud 9 doing a victory lap because a woman with a history of severe allergic reactions had one that lead to her death but this doesn't do anything to change the calculus of vaccination. You know this of course, but heaven forfend you miss an opportunity to mislead people.
USucks: mRNA vaccines have never killed anyone, and people have rare allergic reactions to vaccines.
Me: Yes, they have killed people. This stuff isn't really reported.
Me: look, a confirmed mRNA vaccine death that took a year for the autopsy report to confirm it. Looks like you were wrong.
USucks: You are misleading people. This person had a history of allergic reactions.
...
Holy wow. Logic is not your strong suit. Go argue that the Sahara needs more sand.
Stop what youβre doing and watch this.
— Courtney Holland πΊπΈ (@hollandcourtney) February 11, 2022
Kids at a Las Vegas elementary school burst out into cheers after learning they no longer have to wear a mask to school pic.twitter.com/xIuHgFtmHo
Unit2Sucks said:Congratulations, you found one death from anaphylaxis. There may even be a handful of others. Please allow me to update my statement to acknowledge that at least one person with a history of severe allergic reactions had a severe allergic reaction which lead to her death. How many doses of mRNA have been given in the US? 300 million?oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:You are so blinded by misinformation that you can't even see that I specifically mention people with a history of severe allergic reactions, which this woman had. So thanks for pointing out that my statement was accurate.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:Because one person with known history of severe allergic reactions died of anaphylaxis? Sorry, this is entirely consistent with what I posted.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:
More hysterics because I challenge your agenda. It's hilarious to describe something as "potentially" life threatening when hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated without any deaths. And yet thousands of unvaccinated die every day. COVID is the potentially life threatening condition people should be worried about not allergic reactions.
By the way, I agree the messaging could have been better in the allergic reactions. It's only potentially an issue for people who have a history of severe allergic reactions which is a very small subset of the population. No one else should be waiting at the pharmacy post jab. I know I didn't after any of mine, nor did we with my children or wife.
Fear of theoretical allergic reaction is not the reason millions of conservative tribes people are exposing themselves to excess COVID risk. Thanks for playing though.
Sorry USucks, you are peddling vaccine misinformation.
Perhaps I should post every time a COVID vaccine saves someone's life. Then I could drown out your ridiculous cherry picking with hundreds of thousands of success stories. You aren't fooling anyone.
You posted something as fact to demonstrate I was wrong and then facts came out two weeks later that proved you were wrong. You aren't fooling anyone.
mRNA vaccines have saved way way more lives than they have harmed. It isn't even close, and I never said it was. Get back on your meds and stop making up my arguments.
Anaphylaxis is potentially life-threatening for an extremely small subset of the population, the vast majority of whom already know who they are. I know you are on cloud 9 doing a victory lap because a woman with a history of severe allergic reactions had one that lead to her death but this doesn't do anything to change the calculus of vaccination. You know this of course, but heaven forfend you miss an opportunity to mislead people.
USucks: mRNA vaccines have never killed anyone, and people have rare allergic reactions to vaccines.
Me: Yes, they have killed people. This stuff isn't really reported.
Me: look, a confirmed mRNA vaccine death that took a year for the autopsy report to confirm it. Looks like you were wrong.
USucks: You are misleading people. This person had a history of allergic reactions.
...
Holy wow. Logic is not your strong suit. Go argue that the Sahara needs more sand.
It doesn't change any of the analysis and you know it. You will continue to unleash a torrent of misinformation and will continue to pretend that tens of thousands of people have died from the vaccine while ignoring the hundreds of thousands of Americans whose lives have already been saved by mRNA.
I would say logic isn't your strong suit, but let's be honest, logic hasn't even entered the picture with you. Pretty sad to see you grandstanding over one poor woman had died from an allergic reaction. According to data I've seen, well over 1k Americans die each year from anaphylaxis. It's a severe risk that applies to a small number of people. As I clearly stated in the post that you cited, those people generally know who they are and need to be very careful. It's utterly irrelevant for the vast majority of vaccine recipients.
All this shows is how desperate you are to discredit a life-saving vaccine. Next you will complain about rashes from bandaids (my son left his vaccine bandaid on for a week and the rash took a week to clear). Do you think we should seek recourse against Pfizer or should we go straight to the top and sue Fauci?