Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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> What happened to Hank Gathers was, on Valentines Day of 1990 -- knowing he wasn't going to thrive in the NBA as a 6-7 power forward -- he invented a time machine to go to the future and check the stock market prices. But when he arrived in 2022, the Democrat Party wouldn't let him back in the time machine w/o a COVID shot... and a mask. When he got back to 1990, it looked really weird, him all of a sudden wearing a mask... and then a few weeks later he collapsed and died, first victim of the Moderna. You can look it up.

you're funny, thanks Big C, but as we already know our pathetic / relentless / paid (?) vacc deniers don't care, gonna keep on doin' their hurtful schtick.
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Zippergate
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Time for another booster.
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Zippergate said:

Time for another booster.
thanks bunches Z, but no. recent covid was paid for by medicare, taken with an annual flu shot, so this senile/aged fool is alll caught up.
# freebies.. whatacountry
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smh said:

> What happened to Hank Gathers was, on Valentines Day of 1990 -- knowing he wasn't going to thrive in the NBA as a 6-7 power forward -- he invented a time machine to go to the future and check the stock market prices. But when he arrived in 2022, the Democrat Party wouldn't let him back in the time machine w/o a COVID shot... and a mask. When he got back to 1990, it looked really weird, him all of a sudden wearing a mask... and then a few weeks later he collapsed and died, first victim of the Moderna. You can look it up.

you're funny, thanks Big C, but as we already know our pathetic / relentless / paid (?) vacc deniers don't care, gonna keep on doin' their hurtful schtick.

Perhaps hard to believe, but my alcohol intake and use of "edibles" is only a small fraction of what one might guess, based on some of my posts.
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Zippergate said:

Time for another booster.


Rogue RFK Jr claims many vaccines weren't properly tested and later monitored after the fact.

Some allege an interesting control group are the Amish who don't vaccinate and their children have almost no autism.

There appear to be some low-hanging fruit like food dyes.
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smh said:

> What happened to Hank Gathers was, on Valentines Day of 1990 -- knowing he wasn't going to thrive in the NBA as a 6-7 power forward -- he invented a time machine to go to the future and check the stock market prices. But when he arrived in 2022, the Democrat Party wouldn't let him back in the time machine w/o a COVID shot... and a mask. When he got back to 1990, it looked really weird, him all of a sudden wearing a mask... and then a few weeks later he collapsed and died, first victim of the Moderna. You can look it up.

you're funny, thanks Big C, but as we already know our pathetic / relentless / paid (?) vacc deniers don't care, gonna keep on doin' their hurtful schtick.


He was taking Inderal. There were known issues.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/florida-covid-shots-mrna-vaccines-older-adults-rcna170997?fbclid=IwY2xjawFRgLlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVamMsraDY_DDXJIUsJf50UvHhMOKC_WxjgPVEFQdATLuRiJ82USuoYvzw_aem_WKBF6rhMRO4KgU2zLIQUOg

Florida discourages mrna
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oski003 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/florida-covid-shots-mrna-vaccines-older-adults-rcna170997?fbclid=IwY2xjawFRgLlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVamMsraDY_DDXJIUsJf50UvHhMOKC_WxjgPVEFQdATLuRiJ82USuoYvzw_aem_WKBF6rhMRO4KgU2zLIQUOg

Florida discourages mrna


Shhhh, I own some MRNA shares. Remnants from selling puts/calls during its hay day.
Zippergate
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I've been short MRNA off and on a good part of the way down but not recently. Some very well-informed think it's a zero. Recent failed trial in melanoma which is a real shame. If there was one application for the technology, one would hope it would be cancer.
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Zippergate said:

I've been short MRNA off and on a good part of the way down but not recently. Some very well-informed think it's a zero. Recent failed trial in melanoma which is a real shame. If there was one application for the technology, one would hope it would be cancer.


I know the term but not the mechanics of shorting. Is buying puts similar?
Zippergate
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It's the opposite of buying. You borrow shares, sell them and then buy back later. If the price is lower at that time, you have a profit. High risk strategy in a raging bull market like we've had since risk is theoretically unlimited. Can't imagine being short NVDA.
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Zippergate said:

It's the opposite of buying. You borrow shares, sell them and then buy back later. If the price is lower at that time, you have a profit. High risk strategy in a raging bull market like we've had since risk is theoretically unlimited. Can't imagine being short NVDA.


Thank you. I owned NVDA but at the risk of turning this thread into a stock diatribe I'll spare everyone the details of my mess up. I've been a buy and hold indexer my whole life and got a bit derailed with selling puts and calls for awhile. I don't really know what I am doing there but NVDA was 'fun'.
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Zippergate said:

It's the opposite of buying. You borrow shares, sell them and then buy back later. If the price is lower at that time, you have a profit. High risk strategy in a raging bull market like we've had since risk is theoretically unlimited. Can't imagine being short NVDA.
A long, long, time ago when I was young and working in the back office of a brokerage firm we had a qualcomm leap come due that an investor had shorted. The closeout was brought to me to confirm the numbers because this small trade had resulted in the investor losing millions of dollars. I ran the numbers multiple times and the numbers were correct. I called the broker who had the relationship directly (which we normally didn't do) to make sure he was aware of this uncomfortable conversation he was going to have to have with a client. Fortunately they were fully aware, as they should be.
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dajo9 said:

Zippergate said:

It's the opposite of buying. You borrow shares, sell them and then buy back later. If the price is lower at that time, you have a profit. High risk strategy in a raging bull market like we've had since risk is theoretically unlimited. Can't imagine being short NVDA.
A long, long, time ago when I was young and working in the back office of a brokerage firm we had a qualcomm leap come due that an investor had shorted. The closeout was brought to me to confirm the numbers because this small trade had resulted in the investor losing millions of dollars. I ran the numbers multiple times and the numbers were correct. I called the broker who had the relationship directly (which we normally didn't do) to make sure he was aware of this uncomfortable conversation he was going to have to have with a client. Fortunately they were fully aware, as they should be.


That's an interesting story. I'm not this brave with my investments. I do own a fair amount of SOFI which is heavily shorted. I'm hoping SOFI continues to post good quarters that eventually cause a similar amount of pain for the shorts.
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New study shows ivermectin lacks meaningful benefits in COVID-19 treatment Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences, University of Oxford


https://www.phc.ox.ac.uk/news/new-study-shows-ivermectin-lacks-meaningful-benefits-in-covid-19-treatment
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bearister said:

New study shows ivermectin lacks meaningful benefits in COVID-19 treatment Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences, University of Oxford


https://www.phc.ox.ac.uk/news/new-study-shows-ivermectin-lacks-meaningful-benefits-in-covid-19-treatment

That study is not new, and it is included in the list of all published scientific studies on the treatment of covid with ivermectin, tabulated here:

https://c19ivm.org/meta.html

Relative to the 100+ studies above, that result is an outlier, most studies show that IVM is effective against the prevention and treatment of covid.

We also know from the fact that several billion doses of ivermectin have already been administered worldwide that it is a very safe drug.

Safe and effective.
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Earlier studies seemed to purposefully undermine the potential good news of IVM by not applying within the proven protocol.

- administering it too late
- not administering it w Zinc
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https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-last-of-the-big-seven-fraudulent?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

This article directly addresses all the problems with the PRINCIPLE trial you highlighted. Note the comparison with Merck's patented and expensive drug, Molnupiravir. Ivermectin does not even need approval as it's been approved for decades for other indications making it legal to prescribe off-label and it has a better safety profile than Tylenol. So why did the medical establishment need to go scorched earth on it? (see the recent court case where the FCA/CDC lost)

Contrast this with Molnupiravir, a novel drug that had not been proved and was known to be mutagenic (causes RNA damage which produces viral mutations and possibly DNA damage as well). Yet it was approved by the FDA based on marginal evidence and Merck signed a billion dollar contract with the US government. Molnupiravir subsequently proved to be a complete commercial failure because it doesn't work.
https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/fda-dropped-the-ball-completely-on?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

If you have an article which rebuts the specific criticisms identified by Dr. Kory, that would advance our discussion.
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Zippergate said:

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-last-of-the-big-seven-fraudulent?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

This article directly addresses all the problems with the PRINCIPLE trial you highlighted. Note the comparison with Merck's patented and expensive drug, Molnupiravir. Ivermectin does not even need approval as it's been approved for decades for other indications making it legal to proscribe off-label and it has a better safety profile than Tylenol. So why did the medical establishment need to go scorched earth on it? (see the recent court case where the FCA/CDC lost)

Contrast this with Molnupiravir, a novel drug that had not been proved and was known to be mutagenic (causes RNA damage which produces viral mutations and possibly DNA damage as well). Yet it was approved by the FDA based on marginal evidence and Merck signed a billion dollar contract with the US government. Molnupiravir subsequently proved to be a complete commercial failure because it doesn't work.
https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/fda-dropped-the-ball-completely-on?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

If you have an article which rebuts the specific criticisms identified by Dr. Kory, that would advance our discussion.

Also Remdesivir is another new expensive big pharma (Gilead) IV treatment covid drug that has been sped through and was proven to be unsafe (kidneys) and ineffective.
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Japan is introducing the so-called Replicon vaccine next month. It has been approved there and will be pushed out on the Japanese populace.

The Replicon vaccine is self-amplifying: it causes cells to produce replicase proteins that in turn produce the mRNA proteins which lead to the production of spike protein. Result? Lots and lots of spike protein, and perhaps many other franken-proteins that can't be controlled.

This article describes the potential dangers with this new technology. What's hard to understand is why they are rushing this technology to market. The safety studies are extremely limited and, of course, there is zero long-term safety data. Back in the Covid era, the rush to get vaccines on the market and bypass the normal testing process was at least understandable; there was a pandemic and people were dying. But why the need to rush these highly experimental, risky products to market now? Whatever happened to "do no harm"? What happened to the precautionary principle?

https://open.substack.com/pub/merylnass/p/james-corbett-disentangles-the-new?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
movielover
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Why don't we do a test... and rush out Vitamin C & D, Zinc, and Ivermectin - all clinically proven safe - and track the results?

A friend asked his doctor for an Ivermectin script last year, and he refused him. So he went elsewhere for it.
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> Shhhh, I own some MRNA shares. Remnants from selling puts/calls during its hay day.

good luck with that 82. besides leaving the nest egg in vanguard index funds i risked some "just for fun" money in netflix stock ~5 years ago.. doing ohkay, with a few bump and grinds along the way. tmi..
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=nflx&atb=v178-1&ia=web
# in bogle we trust
signed, not dead yet / eecs class of '73 bear
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smh said:

> Shhhh, I own some MRNA shares. Remnants from selling puts/calls during its hay day.

good luck with that 82. besides leaving a nest egg in vanguard index funds i risked some "just for fun" money in netflix stock. doing ok, with a few bump and grinds along the way. tmi..
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=nflx&atb=v178-1&ia=web
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In the history of our country you could not have done better (average investor) than continually dollar cost average into an S&P 500 fund. Congratulations. Right now, due to selling options the past few years (and a few other not so smart investments) I've got too much stupid stuff and not enough S&P 500 stuff. The good news is that I've got a ton of investable money in vanguard's mm fund and ibonds. I'm sort of waiting for the market to not be at all time highs before I put a lot of it back in. Live and learn.
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in the 1990s we listened to kgo's weekend Money Talk program, alot, ended up following bob brinker's indexing recommendation, and somehow it all worked out
# dumb luck
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Given that the autism rate in California is now 1 in 22, maybe just maybe the CDC should have a look at this. If not the Amish, look abroad. This is a crisis. Whatever the cause, we need answers.

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BREAKING: More rules for thee but not for we news coming out of NYC.
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Look at her picture.

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https://open.substack.com/pub/lionessofjudah/p/leading-cardiologist-sounds-alarm?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

A leading cardiologist is sounding the alarm after publishing a peer-reviewed study that found "severe heart attacks" are still surging among those who have received at least one dose of a Covid mRNA shot.

The major new peer-reviewed study was published in the renowned journal Vaccine.
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The researchers conclude in their study that "the combination of vaccination and natural SARS-CoV2 infection was associated with the development of severe heart failure and cardiogenic shock in patients with STEMI, possibly related to an increased serological response."
They found that patients who became infected after vaccination had an over 50% higher risk of death or heart failure than unvaccinated people who had also been previously infected.
Those patients also had a 90% higher risk than those who were unvaccinated and previously uninfected.
The gap remained even after researchers adjusted for risk factors such as smoking, blood pressure, and age.
"The combination of vaccination and natural immunization against SARS-CoV-2 may predispose to the development of severe heart failure," they wrote.
The study may help explain why death rates remain persistently high in heavily vaccinated countries, belying the predictions of epidemiologists who expected death rates to fall below normal after the epidemic ended.
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Would like to read more about Dr. Ana Blasco.
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smh said:

in the 1990s we listened to kgo's weekend Money Talk program, alot, ended up following bob brinker's indexing recommendation, and somehow it all worked out
# dumb luck

I used to enjoy Bob Brinker's radio show. Not only was he offering sound financial advice, he was just a good talker and seemed like a good guy.

So I started wondering if he was still around and so queried Mr. Google... turns out he just passed away last month at 82. Did he make our Obituaries thread?




(To the best of my knowledge, they had not definitively ruled out the COVID vaccine as his cause of death, so... )
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Brinker was great. He was typically a one-man show. But two asides.

One show someone mentioned Cal luminary Dr. Bill Wattenburg, and Brinker went on a little monologue about his talents and knowledge, and that some consider him a genius. He may have had Dr. Bill on once as a guest.

I ran into a finance guy who happened to speak with Brinker by accident. Brinker had called his firm, got passed off accidentally to this then young man, and they had a conversation. Brinker asked him his opinion on a few finance matters, and he had opinions that weren't the mainstream take. It turned our several of his observations were spot on. After that, the sage Brinker would ocassionally ring him for his opinion.
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