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bearister said:
Didn't get access to all of article. He may well be innocent under bad gun laws and other bad laws, but it is noteworthy that the only people shot and killed were shot and killed by an armed teenager from out of state. I wonder if Matt points that out as a problem among all the points he makes that he is the only truly enlightened one in journalism/media.
bearister said:
" Rittenhouse, an Illinois resident, has said that he came to Kenosha*to protect businesses after protests erupted in the wake of a police shooting of a Black resident named Jacob Blake. The prosecution has dismissed the assertion, saying Rittenhouse was a "chaos tourist" who acted recklessly." Washington Post
*This is an undisputed fact
A 17 year old white supremacist domestic terrorist drove across state lines, armed with an AR 15.
— Ayanna Pressley (@AyannaPressley) August 27, 2020
He shot and killed 2 people who had assembled to affirm the value, dignity, and worth of Black lives.
Fix your damn headlines.
There’s no other way to put it: the President of the United States refused to disavow white supremacists on the debate stage last night. pic.twitter.com/Q3VZTW1vUV
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 30, 2020
The New Yorker also took a sober look at the oft-howled objection that Rittenhouse "crossed state lines," as if this were somehow an offense in itself (see the Matt Orfalea video above) and quickly determined that news outlets simply didn't bother to ask a few basic questions about the case:Quote:
There is to date no evidence that Rittenhouse was involved with the Kenosha Guard or showed up as a result of their call to action. Nor is there evidence of ties to other extremist groups, either militia groups or white supremacist groups. Rittenhouse's social media accounts provided no evidence of ties to extremism prior to the killings.
Because of all of these simple factual misconceptions that Rittenhouse was a militia member and a white supremacist who'd traveled a great distance to a town to which he had no connection, then fired first and indiscriminately analysts not only pre-judged Rittenhouse's guilt, but offered advance explanations for any possible acquittal.Quote:
Because he lived in Illinois, people assumed that he had travelled some distance, for nefarious purposes, and had "crossed state lines" with his rifle. (The Rittenhouse apartment was a mile south of the Wisconsin border, and Rittenhouse had been storing his gun in Kenosha, at the house of a friend's stepfather.)
The ACLU now favors criminal prosecutions based on the extremely arbitrary penalties that go along with "crossing state lines"? The civil liberty community has long opposed these laws that add criminal penalties for state border crossing. https://t.co/Nb3ZkbxfST
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) November 19, 2021
SUE THEM ALL, KYLE.
— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) November 19, 2021
EVERY LAST ONE. #KyleRittenhouse #NotGuilty pic.twitter.com/j7EUcfscUs
Time for true justice…
— Christian Ziegler 🇺🇸 (@ChrisMZiegler) November 20, 2021
Kyle Rittenhouse ACQUITTED should mean: 👇🏼
👉🏼 Gaige Grosskreutz charged with attempted murder & illegal conceal carry of a firearm.
👉🏼 Maurice Freeland aka “jump kick man” charged with assault.
👉🏼 Ziminski charged for shooting at Kyle.
One thing you won’t see at this trial—Right wing darling Kyle #Rittenhouse punching a girl in the head weeks before he killed people at a protest.pic.twitter.com/pnzgOkPaQx
— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) November 10, 2021
An important and thorough breakdown of why much of the anger and surprise over the Rittenhouse verdict is more about the media than politics. Many didn’t know the basic facts, or cared to. https://t.co/6IzOu85DXn
— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) November 19, 2021
New video evidence shows that Michael Reinoehl was acting in self-defense when he shot Patriot Prayer member Aaron Danielson.
— Chad Loder (they/them) (@chadloder) November 16, 2020
Danielson and his friends were stalking Reinoehl, and they assaulted him before he fired.@ProPublica @Bryan_Denson video here: https://t.co/6BXkGuaJLw pic.twitter.com/VAB1WA19m9
going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been throw out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
sycasey said:going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
IMO a hypothetical black Kyle Rittenhouse carrying that same gun is probably not allowed to stick around long enough to shoot anyone. The cops would have chased him off, arrested him, or shot him themselves if he'd resisted. There wouldn't have been any trial.
Still, to me that's not an argument that Rittenhouse should be found guilty, it's that young Black men should be found guilty less often.
sycasey said:going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
IMO a hypothetical black Kyle Rittenhouse carrying that same gun is probably not allowed to stick around long enough to shoot anyone. The cops would have chased him off, arrested him, or shot him themselves if he'd resisted. There wouldn't have been any trial.
Still, to me that's not an argument that Rittenhouse should be found guilty, it's that young Black men should be found guilty less often.
going4roses said:
Based on American History… the writing is on the wall.
Find one case that proves that what I said is not plausible.
Think first are your lenses jaded to pre supposed that reaction?
oski003 said:sycasey said:going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
IMO a hypothetical black Kyle Rittenhouse carrying that same gun is probably not allowed to stick around long enough to shoot anyone. The cops would have chased him off, arrested him, or shot him themselves if he'd resisted. There wouldn't have been any trial.
Still, to me that's not an argument that Rittenhouse should be found guilty, it's that young Black men should be found guilty less often.
Is the hypothetical person also local to Kenosha and a police and fire cadet?
If the police identified this hypothetical armed black person as an ally, they may have let him assist them against the rioters and looters. I don't advocate for the police doing so. I don't think anyone here is saying everyone acted appropriately.sycasey said:oski003 said:sycasey said:going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
IMO a hypothetical black Kyle Rittenhouse carrying that same gun is probably not allowed to stick around long enough to shoot anyone. The cops would have chased him off, arrested him, or shot him themselves if he'd resisted. There wouldn't have been any trial.
Still, to me that's not an argument that Rittenhouse should be found guilty, it's that young Black men should be found guilty less often.
Is the hypothetical person also local to Kenosha and a police and fire cadet?
Not sure how much that matters? I'm talking about such a person wandering around at night during a dangerous time.
Your characterization is very unfair.dajo9 said:
What happens if the tables are turned and a leftist shoots a right winger in self defense in a street protest?
The police send a hit squad against the leftist, kill him, and the right wing President brags about it.New video evidence shows that Michael Reinoehl was acting in self-defense when he shot Patriot Prayer member Aaron Danielson.
— Chad Loder (they/them) (@chadloder) November 16, 2020
Danielson and his friends were stalking Reinoehl, and they assaulted him before he fired.@ProPublica @Bryan_Denson video here: https://t.co/6BXkGuaJLw pic.twitter.com/VAB1WA19m9
We don't even need to get that far. Would a black man have been able to walk down the street toward the police with his hands mostly up without being shot or arrested. To me, that is the point at which people should be able to agree.going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
OJ Simpson.going4roses said:
Based on American History… the writing is on the wall.
Find one case that proves that what I said is not plausible.
Think first are your lenses jaded to pre supposed that reaction?
I'm on board with this.sycasey said:going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
IMO a hypothetical black Kyle Rittenhouse carrying that same gun is probably not allowed to stick around long enough to shoot anyone. The cops would have chased him off, arrested him, or shot him themselves if he'd resisted. There wouldn't have been any trial.
Still, to me that's not an argument that Rittenhouse should be found guilty, it's that young Black men should be found guilty less often.
Then it comes down to the question of how likely it is that the cops would have identified a young black dude with a big gun as an ally, during a Black Lives Matter protest. I guess it's not impossible. But it's much less likely. Probably only if they knew him personally.oski003 said:If the police identified this hypothetical armed black person as an ally, they may have let him assist them against the rioters and looters. I don't advocate for the police doing so. I don't think anyone here is saying everyone acted appropriately.sycasey said:oski003 said:sycasey said:going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
IMO a hypothetical black Kyle Rittenhouse carrying that same gun is probably not allowed to stick around long enough to shoot anyone. The cops would have chased him off, arrested him, or shot him themselves if he'd resisted. There wouldn't have been any trial.
Still, to me that's not an argument that Rittenhouse should be found guilty, it's that young Black men should be found guilty less often.
Is the hypothetical person also local to Kenosha and a police and fire cadet?
Not sure how much that matters? I'm talking about such a person wandering around at night during a dangerous time.
sycasey said:Then it comes down to the question of how likely it is that the cops would have identified a young black dude with a big gun as an ally, during a Black Lives Matter protest. I guess it's not impossible. But it's much less likely. Probably only if they knew him personally.oski003 said:If the police identified this hypothetical armed black person as an ally, they may have let him assist them against the rioters and looters. I don't advocate for the police doing so. I don't think anyone here is saying everyone acted appropriately.sycasey said:oski003 said:sycasey said:going4roses said:
That being said if the defendant was Black … would he be found not guilty most likely no.
Gun case would not have been thrown out
Mother would have been prosecuted or turned on him.
He would not be celebrating nor out on bail
And funny part is had he been black the victim's could have been Black or White he was going down.
There is no law and order never has been.
IMO a hypothetical black Kyle Rittenhouse carrying that same gun is probably not allowed to stick around long enough to shoot anyone. The cops would have chased him off, arrested him, or shot him themselves if he'd resisted. There wouldn't have been any trial.
Still, to me that's not an argument that Rittenhouse should be found guilty, it's that young Black men should be found guilty less often.
Is the hypothetical person also local to Kenosha and a police and fire cadet?
Not sure how much that matters? I'm talking about such a person wandering around at night during a dangerous time.