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dajo9
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concordtom said:

Anyone wanna discuss?












Pretty standard MBA type stuff. My normal portfolio is 80/20 to 90/10. Interesting to note yields have been on a secular downtrend that whole time as we have gone from capital scarcity to capital overabundance. Is that changing and what does that do to the results?

S&P 500 record high after today's inflation report
bear2034
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Gamestop and AMC trading halted 38 times yesterday?
dajo9
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The anti-Biden corporate news doesn't want you to know the Dow Jones hit a record 40,000 because inflation has normalized and the economy is doing great causing companies to be profitable.
concordtom
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Low information voters don't get it.
Their network doesn't sell it.

If Trump had this stock market, he'd have them all crowing, even if his militants own no stocks.
DiabloWags
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dajo9 said:

The anti-Biden corporate news doesn't want you to know the Dow Jones hit a record 40,000 because inflation has normalized and the economy is doing great causing companies to be profitable.


Stop whining.

All you do is whine about the media. The media isnt driving the stock market. Neither is POTUS.

The market ALSO CELEBRATED a flat Retail Sales Report for April as consumers begin to show some fatigue. In otherwords, the market is "cheering" on WEAKER economic growth that will lead to a most anticipated easing by the FED.



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concordtom
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Where's the thumbs down button.

Oh, yeah.
DiabloWags
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bear2034 said:

Gamestop and AMC trading halted 38 times yesterday?


Roaring Kitty opened his mouth on "X" about GameStop. $16 million flowed in on Monday.

First time in almost 2 years that
Keith Gill spoke.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
dajo9
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DiabloWags said:

dajo9 said:

The anti-Biden corporate news doesn't want you to know the Dow Jones hit a record 40,000 because inflation has normalized and the economy is doing great causing companies to be profitable.


The media isnt driving the stock market. Neither is the POTUS.



Strawmen.

The market is happy to see signs we aren't overheating. The market is also foolish because historically the market goes down when rate cuts start.
calbear93
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DiabloWags said:

dajo9 said:

The anti-Biden corporate news doesn't want you to know the Dow Jones hit a record 40,000 because inflation has normalized and the economy is doing great causing companies to be profitable.


Stop whining.

All you do is whine about the media. The media isnt driving the stock market. Neither is POTUS.

The market ALSO CELEBRATED a flat Retail Sales Report for April as consumers begin to show some fatigue. In otherwords, the market is "cheering" on WEAKER economic growth that will lead to a most anticipated easing by the FED.






Exactly. The FED and earning trend are driving the market (not many fund managers are watching CNN for investment advice) as well as secular trends on AI and short-cycle inventory burn through of overstocking from prior supply chain disruption. Extremely disruptive world events may move markets but not daily political focus by political minded media.

Our economy is one where it is primarily driven by consumers. As previously noted, inflation and higher interest rate will eventually slow down consumer spending that should lower inflation. However, inflation has always been sticky and stubborn and extremely unhealthy for long term economic health. While bad for short term economy, slowing of consumer spending in still elevated inflationary environment is healthy for long term economy. The market is always pricing for the future based on forecast. Therefore, those who are only reacting to historical news instead of assessing relative to what has been priced in may think the market is counterintuitive.
dajo9
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calbear93 said:

DiabloWags said:

dajo9 said:

The anti-Biden corporate news doesn't want you to know the Dow Jones hit a record 40,000 because inflation has normalized and the economy is doing great causing companies to be profitable.


Stop whining.

All you do is whine about the media. The media isnt driving the stock market. Neither is POTUS.

The market ALSO CELEBRATED a flat Retail Sales Report for April as consumers begin to show some fatigue. In otherwords, the market is "cheering" on WEAKER economic growth that will lead to a most anticipated easing by the FED.






Exactly. The FED and earning trend are driving the market (not many fund managers are watching CNN for investment advice) as well as secular trends on AI and short-cycle inventory burn through of overstocking from prior supply chain disruption. Extremely disruptive world events may move markets but not daily political focus by political minded media.

Our economy is one where it is primarily driven by consumers. As previously noted, inflation and higher interest rate will eventually slow down consumer spending that should lower inflation. However, inflation has always been sticky and stubborn and extremely unhealthy for long term economic health. While bad for short term economy, slowing of consumer spending in still elevated inflationary environment is healthy for long term economy. The market is always pricing for the future based on forecast. Therefore, those who are only reacting to historical news instead of assessing relative to what has been priced in may think the market is counterintuitive.


Strawman stacked on strawman
calbear93
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dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

DiabloWags said:

dajo9 said:

The anti-Biden corporate news doesn't want you to know the Dow Jones hit a record 40,000 because inflation has normalized and the economy is doing great causing companies to be profitable.


Stop whining.

All you do is whine about the media. The media isnt driving the stock market. Neither is POTUS.

The market ALSO CELEBRATED a flat Retail Sales Report for April as consumers begin to show some fatigue. In otherwords, the market is "cheering" on WEAKER economic growth that will lead to a most anticipated easing by the FED.






Exactly. The FED and earning trend are driving the market (not many fund managers are watching CNN for investment advice) as well as secular trends on AI and short-cycle inventory burn through of overstocking from prior supply chain disruption. Extremely disruptive world events may move markets but not daily political focus by political minded media.

Our economy is one where it is primarily driven by consumers. As previously noted, inflation and higher interest rate will eventually slow down consumer spending that should lower inflation. However, inflation has always been sticky and stubborn and extremely unhealthy for long term economic health. While bad for short term economy, slowing of consumer spending in still elevated inflationary environment is healthy for long term economy. The market is always pricing for the future based on forecast. Therefore, those who are only reacting to historical news instead of assessing relative to what has been priced in may think the market is counterintuitive.


Strawman stacked on strawman
Well, you have shown with your accomplishments and past input how much of an expert you are so I won't take your response as indication of this being over your head.
calbear93
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DiabloWags said:

bear2034 said:

Gamestop and AMC trading halted 38 times yesterday?


Roaring Kitty opened his mouth on "X" about GameStop. $16 million flowed in on Monday.

First time in almost 2 years that
Keith Gill spoke.


Any of these movement or investment that is far removed and independent of fundamentals are just empty speculation that has not place in any serious investor interested in long-term wealth building.

Dumb Money was an interesting movie but really showed how stupid all this meme stock investing is.
DiabloWags
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calbear93 said:

DiabloWags said:

bear2034 said:

Gamestop and AMC trading halted 38 times yesterday?


Roaring Kitty opened his mouth on "X" about GameStop. $16 million flowed in on Monday.

First time in almost 2 years that
Keith Gill spoke.


Any of these movement or investment that is far removed and independent of fundamentals are just empty speculation that has not place in any serious investor interested in long-term wealth building.

Dumb Money was an interesting movie but really showed how stupid all this meme stock investing is.

To your point, last Thursday saw the highest Nasdaq Composite volume on RECORD, driven by sub-$1 stocks.

On another note, many commodities are breaking out and it appears that the "great reflation" trade has more o go and would highlight energy stocks as particularly timely here after a multi-week pullback.
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DiabloWags
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The University of California an early investor.

BlackRock launches three targeted ETFs for investors looking to diversify risks | Reuters
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
bear2034
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FUN FACT: Over 1,800 ETFs have launched in the last 4 years and BlackRock's spot Bitcoin ETF (IBIT) is the most successful out of all of them.
DiabloWags
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TSLA +$46.83

$260.48
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bear2034
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TSLA $339.52

Meanwhile, MicroStrategy MSTR became the most traded stock today for the first time in its history.
DiabloWags
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You're late.

TSLA already hit $360 a little over a week ago.
It's up from $310 four days ago.

Can't wait to see what happens when the Orange Man proposes to remove those EV tax credits.
Since he hates EV so much.



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DiabloWags
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bear2034 said:


Meanwhile, MicroStrategy MSTR became the most traded stock today for the first time in its history.
I have no idea what you just said.
Or is this your bizarre way of saying that MSTR has never traded more volume than today?
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bear2034
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DiabloWags said:

You're late.

TSLA already hit $360 a little over a week ago.
It's up from $310 four days ago.

Can't wait to see what happens when the Orange Man proposes to remove those EV tax credits.
Since he hates EV so much.

Cool story bro. TSLA going to the moon. You should take advantage of those EV tax credits and trade in your gas guzzler.
DiabloWags
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bear2034 said:



Cool story bro. TSLA going to the moon. You should take advantage of those EV tax credits and trade in your gas guzzler.

Nah, I'm good even at 13 mpg.
I can afford it.


Are you still riding a bicycle to work?





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DiabloWags
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bear2034 said:


Meanwhile, MicroStrategy MSTR became the most traded stock today for the first time in its history.

How's you're paper trading account doing?
You having a good year?


"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
DiabloWags
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$118 point range and its not even lunch yet.

A "hit" piece came out today by Citron Research.


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concordtom
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DiabloWags said:


The University of California an early investor.

BlackRock launches three targeted ETFs for investors looking to diversify risks | Reuters

Quote:


The iShares Nasdaq Top 30 Stocks ETF (QTOP.O), opens new tab will let investors hold the 30 biggest non-financial stocks, including mega-cap tech. It has secured backing from the University of California's investing arm.


I don't find that to be very intellectually stimulating. It could be a better-than-"market"-return strategy, but I'm personally interested in a broader way of diverging from "the market".

I'm on the investment advisory team for a nonprofit and have introduced to others the concept of how diversification among asset classes is the best way to maximize Return while minimizing Risk.

I first learned of the late Yale Endowment CIO David Swenson some 20 years ago.



And recently I picked up another book:



The common takeaway, for me, is that the world of assets we should be investing in is WAY beyond US stocks. It's also way beyond your typical asset allocation model (which varies by age or risk appetite of the asset holder) as offered by your local brokerage firm.

Swensen talked about real estate, timber as asset classes. So does Lo.

We must span the planet to consider grabbing a piece of the entire array of possibilities.
 
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